So after reading the entire fiction of H.P. Lovecraft, I have learned that literal fuck tons of games piggybacked off him to create the interesting elements of the concerning world/lore etc.
>looking at you Dark Souls and Bloodborne
Thing is, since it was such an obvious success why is this series the only game able to suceed in replicating some of his ideas?
And why tons of games neckbeard out and only focus on Cthulu?
Cthulhu is a gateway monster that everyone knows and misinterprets
Nobody knows that he's actually a pussy that's weak to wooden boats
>>337867050
>why is this series the only game able to suceed in replicating some of his ideas
It's not.
Because it's hard. The whole idea is that you are dealing with things beyond what your comprehension can grasp. Hard to translate.
The thing with Chtullu is that it gives you something very translatable, palpable, menacing and easily identifiable through the main creature.
In short: it takes talent and dedication and this is videogames.
>>337867050
Because Call of Cthulhu is one of his best known works, and one of his best. I'm more of a Shadows over Innsmouth and The Colour Out of Space man myself, but Cthulhu is way easier to represent and has a catchy name to boot.
Over time, it got filtered into pop culture and distilled down into the giant monster that makes everyone go crazy, even if the story and the bulk of Lovecraft's work isn't like that at all.
>>337867404
Pretty much this.
>>337867050
An actually Lovecraftian game is borderline impossible to pull off.
>It is true that I have sent six bullets through the head of my best friend, and yet I hope to show by this statement that I am not his murderer.
At the Mountains of Madness is his best work, prove me wrongyou can't
>>337867310
>All the bugs and crashes
I want too play it so bad too why is so shitty
Yeah, where's my game about the protecting the purity of the white race!?But really, he's got impeccable prose. Better than most of his contemporaries. I don't really find his stories that interesting though. Their modern spinoffs are often more imaginative.
>But Lovecraft was a racist, goy, best we forget all about him and celebrate an author of color instead!
>>337867050
Lovecraft was a shit writer.
His ideas weren't even innovative.
it's a meme
>>337867787
The fan patch fixes most of the issues.
>>337867050
Lovecraft piggybacked off a shitton of authors before him. He just made the genre popular.
kinda sick of the space squid with mind control trope
if you picture one of the monstes, the allure goes off because lovecraftian horror is based on madness and fear of unknown.
>shub niggurath in quake
>>337867848
I've never heard this.
>>337867648
Herma Mora and Apocrypha are probably the only good things to come out of Skyrim.
>>337867216
This.
Everyone thinks Lovecraft is "le tentacles and crazy" when it isn't.
Also, Bloodborne is the closest.
>>337867934
much later after he died. he was a poorfag
>>337868012
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/nov/09/world-fantasy-award-drops-hp-lovecraft-as-prize-image
>>337868095
Lovecraft was a shit writer anyway
>>337867310
But this game is shit. It starts off like the best fucking horror game ever, that insmouth, that night at the hotel, those sewers and all the bizarro creepy shit oh god I loved every second of it.
But then something happens. You find a gun and every good thing this game had gets completely disregarded for the sake of absolutely fucking retarded fps and jump puzzles. It kills the game.
Like holy shit how can you turn a game 180 from the best lovecraf horror to disabled cod misscarriage
>>337867787
for the last time. it didn't have any bugs or crashes at the release. it works like shit on windows 7 for some reason. I got a bsod in the ship level. it should work fine on xp.
>>337867848
When, long ago, the gods created Earth
In Jove's fair image Man was shaped at birth.
The beasts for lesser parts were next designed;
Yet were they too remote from humankind.
To fill the gap, and join the rest to Man,
Th'Olympian host conceiv'd a clever plan.
A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure,
Filled it with vice, and called the thing a Nigger.
>>337867050
Bethesda shoving Lovecraft shit into FO3 and FO4 is especially egregious.
Then again I don't expect Emil to know jack dick about writing.
>neckbeard out and only focus on Cthulu
Cthulu is normie shit now. It's so deeply established in pop culture that I doubt half of the reddit browsing casuals even know its origin
>>337867732
Is that the one in antartica?
I like the one where a guy visit some strange dreamworld. There are a lot of cool stories.
>>337867934
He was greatly influenced, but you'd be hard pressed to find the kind of cosmic horror fiction Lovecraft wrote about decades before him.
>made the genre popular
What you mean after his death? That's like saying Van Gogh made impressionism more popular.
>>337868237
ignore this man.
>>337867050
anon, you should have noticed a lot of horror and scifi hacks steal from lovecraft, while you were in the mines
he was immensely influential
I think this was good at it
>>337868291
this
where are the games featuring the black goat with a thousand young
>>337867848
I honestly hate the argument that we should discard brilliant art because the person who made it was some blankity blank blank bullshit. MLKJr was a womanizer who cheated on his wife and Gandhi was both a racist and sexist; there's not a single human being in history who didn't have a vice or some kind of moral failing.
tfw the sanctity of c'thulhu was ruined by pop culture
>>337867848
He changed his ways at the end of his life. A man can atone for his sins, unlike what the SJWs want you to think.
>>337867404
Nintendo having a patent on the sanity system isn't helping anything either.
>>337868442
Gandhi ruined India
>>337868237
Despite the change in tone after finding weaponry the game retains a constant thick atmosphere of dread as you continue. Even after getting weaponry there's still terrifying encounters where you feel practically helpless against your foe, like theentire section with the Shoggoth in the Marsh Refinery.
>>337867050
The amount of time and detail he would spend describing the barbarism and savagery of non-whites in his stories is actually pretty funny. All the minorities had this "bixnood" style language they would always speak.
>>337868592
Isn't it expiring this year if they don't do anything with it like Eternal Darkness?
![profile_picture_by_faceless_god-d5cg5rk[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/hOH694z.jpg "profile_picture_by_faceless_god-d5cg5rk[1].jpg")
>Think we might get more Lovecraft in Persona
>Turns out it's just a UFO called the Necronomicon
Just bring back Nyarly already.
>>337868597
India ruined India.
>>337867050
I thought Eternal Darkness did the best at capturing the feeling of reading a Lovecraft story especially with all the different time periods it spans. It also had the cool sanity effects.
Amnesia was also pretty good.
They ignored one single thing. HP Lovecrafts hate for blacks.
This should be shown in more Lovecraft like games.
>>337868698
Gandhi gave India back to the Indians
he is the catalyst for its ruination
>>337868495
So did Nathan Bedford Forrest, and Andrew Jackson also adopted an Indian child, but no, they are still completely racist horrible white men.
This revisionist history is only targeting white people in history, not minorities or non whites.
>>337867050
>dark souls
>lovecraftian
AHAHAHAHHA
Because an actual Lovecraft story, as a game, would put off 90% of players.
There is little to no action, nothing you can do, and therefore, no point to play the game.
Bloodborne is able to sneak past this by starting the game off as a gothic action RPG about hunting werewolves, so when they finally introduce the Lovecraftian aspects they can still keep the action (read: actually playable) aspects.
Silent Hill is the closest actual series coming to a Lovecraft story, and even then it is much closer to Stephen King than Lovecraft.
>>337868095
>2500 idiots and a woman
Everyone hated niggers in 1912.
>>337868794
oolacile and the abyss, also the painted world.
>>337868794
Oolacile, the Abyss. But yes it's not ENTIRELY Lovecraftian, not in the least.
>>337868846
That's not true, Battlefield 1 told me so!
>>337867848
The funniest thing is that the thing Lovecraft was most afraid was other white people.
Shadow Over Innsmouth was him figuring out he was Welsh (plus seafood is gross).
>>337868752
>Andrew Jackson also adopted an Indian child,
this like the 'I have a black friend so I'm not racist' argument
>>337868495
>Implying racism is a sin.
Not even once anon
>>337867569
I would kill for The Colour out of Space to get some representation in anything beyond that one Stephen King short story.
As for OP I think the biggest issue is that most of Lovecraft's best work is really, really, really difficult to translate into video games. Like The Colour Out of Space. A good horror game is difficult enough on its own to make without having to incorporate other, more difficult elements into the story. By and large a horror game is really only scary for the first couple of hours, even less if you're someone who actually tries to figure out how the mechanics work.
This is why I liked Bloodborne and somewhat the insight mechanic. Insight was really neat and it's a shame they did so little with beyond the Amygdala and voices you can hear (literally did they do anything else?). As well it didn't go for the 'ooga booga this is scary you should be scared now!' mentality of horror but the more disturbing aspects (especially the transition from the victorian gory body horror to the more lovecraftian great old ones sort of horror).
>>337868932
ME1 yes, ME2-3 hell fucking no
>>337867732
My favorite is the Color of Outer Space
>>337868918
yeah but in this case it was directly inspired by Lovecraft.
There are a number of descriptions of other worlds in Lovecrafts work often depicting knights and soldiers.
DS3
Aldrich is a DIRECT homage to lovecraft.
Oolacile and the Abyss are direct inspirations from lovecrafts works.
>>337868919
>Battlefield 1
I had to look up that they actually named it that.
I love the concept, but I honestly think that's a stupid fucking name.
what's the "nigger" of video games
>>337869106
Nono I agree but I mean the entirety of Dark Souls isn't necessarily Lovecraftian. More western/dark fantasy.
>>337869031
Adopting an Indian child while you are the President of a country that fucking despised Indians and they'd openly be attacked in the streets is ballsy as fuck, this was also the era when anyone could fucking duel the President, so you could have any old fuck challenge Jackson for being a redman sympathizer. You aren't really giving him enough credit for how ballsy that was.
>>337868012
Go to reddit and if you ever find a post about him is about how horrible he was. Same about Columbus (even though half the world would not exist without him) and many other people. To be fair /v/ is as easily triggered.
>>337869106
>>337868918
>>337868794
Dark Souls is much closer to Robert Howard than H.P. Lovecraft.
>>337869197
prototype 2
>>337869031
Jackson adopted that child so that he could personally enact what he wanted to do to the Indians - make them Americans.
Jackson hated everything that wasn't American.
>>337869197
Street Fighter.
Tekken before that.
>>337867050
>entire fiction of H.P. Lovecraft
bullshit
>>337867404
winner
>lovecraft is all about the unknown and forbidden
>publishers or whatever take that, make rapist fish men, and try to scare you with fish dicks or whatever
Lovecraft is shit
There's not one movie or game based on his shit that is actually good
And I assume that's because the source material, his writings are garbage
>>337869237
>You aren't really giving him enough credit for how ballsy that was.
Probably because they don't actually matter. What's next, it was ballsy of him to be a bad President too?
>>337869050
yeah, that's why the Reapers were such a disappointment to me. their design was obviously hinting at being Cthulhuesque. meant to not be fully understood.
>>337869050
>>337868932
YOU ARE NOT SAREN
>>337867050
Lovecraft stylings don't really work for most games. If you can level past enemies, it isn't a good fit for an RPG. If you just shoot everything in the face it doesn't work for a shooter. So on and so on.
The games that get it right keep you at the edge of weakness, always barely getting by. That has limited appeal.
All that being said, I've grown to kind of hate Lovecraft. Anything inspired by it never does anything new. It's either a direct rip off or goes the route of being so obtuse that it doesn't really make any sense. Or hell, it just makes enemies that look Lovecraftian but are piss easy cannon fodder. Very little creativity, though Call of Cthulu had that awesome chase scene.
the rats in the walls
herbert west - the reanimator
lovecraft also mocked germans in a hilarious fashion in "the temple"
>>337869478
I saw two good movies adaptations of Lovecraft stories.
>>337869486
They were probably one of the best Presidents in our nation's history
>>337869478
>And I assume
retarded illiterate detected
>>337868297that's the second best one
>>337867050
>looking at you X
Nothing worse than faggots like you who talk like this.
>no secret world
wtf guys
seriously good writing and quests that are chock full of Lovecraft
>>337867310
Anyone got that one long ass screencap detailing the development of this?
>>337868919
The americans hated their black soldiers so much they put them with the french, who were actually pretty decent to blacks and colonials
>>337869478
>And I assume that's because the source material, his writings are garbage
The dude only wrote short stories. If you haven't read a single H.P. Lovecraft story you are literally an idiot because most of his shit is like 7 pages long.
Here
http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/thecolouroutofspace.htm
site is cringey as fuck but that is pretty much what people have to base games on. As people have already said it is pretty hard but you can obviously tell it is good stuff.
>>337869463
His stuff is all short stories and novellas, its not hard to read it all except that a lot of it is shit
>>337869893
Because the French didn't know how awful they were. It's like how Europe is letting in all the rapefugees now, because they aren't around these people daily so they have no idea how awful they are.
Why do no videogames handle horror on a cosmic scale well? I don't care if it winds up being a non-gamey experience, I'd love a game that attempts to convey just how hopeless the situation would be if a true great old one turned even an iota of its attention on earth.
>>337869851
>MMO
eat shit
>>337868752
Andrew Jackson caused far more misery to Indians and Blacks than Lovecraft did.
What did Lovecraft do to blacks other than have an opinion?
You're an idiot.
>>337869893
Or because new orleans was a french colony and they spoke the language.
>>337869979
His entire collected works is a free e-book on amazon
>>337869851
fuck off
>>337870046
seriously missing out on a great game
>>337870061
Indians had it coming for not integrating and being little shits. Blacks were viewed as property even in Africa by other Blacks. It was a different time and it's ridiculous that you would even imply that he did wrong by judging him by the standards of today.
>>337870014
>>337870076
No it was because the french army had fully integrated the 500000 black africans they had fighting for them early in the war and were willing to do the same with american blacks. The US flatly refused to integrate at all until after ww2
>>337868284
I mean, he still deserves props for singlehandedly creating cosmic fiction, but this is some high octane edgy garbage.
>>337870014
>stupidity: The post
Frenchies would live with Africans in a mostly African land for a long time. In fact some of their most influential philosophers and writers, were those type of French.
>>337869242
>even though half the world would not exist without him
>wops actually believe this
>>337870091
Yeah listen to this guy I just google searched because I knew all his works are public domain so you can find it pretty much everywhere.
Also a reason why so many people use lovecraft.
>>337870017
Bloodborne is the only game that did this, problem is you could kill it.
I wish there was a game adaptation based off From Beyond.
>>337870236
He was a literal stormfront level racist, even though he had a jewish wife. Apparently it was embarrassing to go out in public with him because he would inevitably make a scene if he saw anyone who wasnt english-pale
>check out wikipedia
damn this guy's life was shit
>>337870230
>if you don't accept my way of life, you will be cleansed forcefully
So tolerant and moral...
>he did wrong by judging him by the standards of today.
Of fuck off cuck. Andrew Jackson owned far more slaves than the usually well off white man of his time and place. I don't care if Jefferson owned slaves, it was normal back then anyway. Andrew Jackson was a particular piece of tumor.
![2jx61tL[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mxIRFoN.jpg "2jx61tL[1].jpg")
>Playing the Bloodborne DLC
>Get to Fishing Hamlet
>Get pic related
>That description
>"Violated"
It feels like such a dirty and filthy word when it's written in such a way, and the Fishing Hamlet in general is so goddamn fucked beyond belief, especially when you get to Kos and the Orphan.
I'm not an expert on Lovecraftian Horror, but I think Bloodborne does it possibly the best. It takes the concept and makes it its own, and I think it really succeeds.
>>337869463
That's only like, 60 short stories, man.
>>337868837
>wat are all those shit walking simulators
>>337870017
Because then its not a game.
Fuck off to /tv/ and ask why there are no good Lovecraft movies.
I'll give you the same answer for both: we don't have the technology to make an unknowable horror. It's fucking unknowable. CGI is always shit and will always be shit for horror, and there aren't enough practical effects in the world to make a convincing Old One.
>>337870405
Wasn't he like super remorseful about it later in life?
>>337870017
>Wanting another can't see shit walking simulator
>>337870405
Not only that but his wife had to polity remind him of her heritage whenever he started to on one of his hate speech rampages.
>>337870582
I mean, the big conceit of bloodborne is that cosmic ayylmao horrors are trying to get their fugg on with hot human women and make abomination babbies
>>337867648
>I am hermaeussshhhh mora
I love the character but his voice is so grating.
>>337870405
Except he idolized the Greeks and Egyptians and talked shit about the snowniggers of prehistoric Germany as much as anything else.
His kind of racism was literal fantasy racism.
>>337870567
>So tolerant and moral...
As if any other race of people wouldn't have done the same fucking shit. It's happened hundreds of thousands of times throughout human history. The losers either integrate or die, and the Indians lost. Sucks for them yeah, but don't act like its so horrible and that Jackson was a horrible monster for doing what anyone else would do.
>>337870405
Like everyone in his time?
>>337870824
Egyptians and greeks were proto-english to him. It was a like a genuine psychological hangup rather than a consistent rational belief
>>337869671
Care to name them?
>>337870824
How bad is his racism in his books? I haven't read any yet but is it constant /pol/ tier racism or there a decent story without reminding the reader every 10-20mins how much he hates "insert race" here? I know about the cat in one of the books called Nigger
>>337867050
I've read the entire fiction of Lovecraft as well.
90% of his stories are awful. Only a handful are unique, and special, and he's genre fiction which is stupid. His prose is terrible, and he's an edgelord. "Nigger Man" should be all I need to say.
Overrated hack that's only remembered for the few good stuff he wrote, while everyone ignores the pile of shit that's in between those stories.
>>337870938
No, far more extreme. Most people were pretty indifferent most of the time
>>337870812
It's more so that the Great Ones are actually giving humanity a chance. They've always been there watching, you just couldn't see them because your mind was still too small and lacked the proper knowledge of their existence, something that drove others mad. I like that it doesn't start off Lovecraftian, but slowly progresses towards it.
Were Lovecraft mythos the MLP of its time?
>>337871050
name lovecraft's good works and explain why they are good, nigger man
>>337871142
why are you like this
>>337870938
No, like he was beyond hating foreigners in his country, and even beyond hating carpet baggers in his state.
He literally got pissed off when a new family moved into his town.
>>337871142
no, they were ignored until later
>>337871006
Its more funny than anything and fairly low level. Then you get stories like "The Street"
>>337871006
It's not very present at all
you can do some reaching to find it, but like I just said, REACHING.
>>337871142
What did he mean by this?
>>337868237
>Like holy shit how can you turn a game 180 from the best lovecraf horror to disabled cod misscarriage
Bethesda and consoles. I'm not memeing either, Bethesda killed the Call of Cthulhu series before it was even born.
>>337870927
>As if any other race of people wouldn't have done the same fucking shit.
They necessarily wouldn't. Anyway, that doesn't justify an evil.
Nomads and bedouins were always left to roam along and within the territory that the civilized cities mostly didn't use. Many empires that had a lot to worry about didn't have to do forced relocations. The Persian Empire didn't for example.
Also, it's interesting you conceded the fact that Andrew Jackson did own more slaves than usual.
Well the brutal Assyrians and Mongols did, so I guess Andrew Jackson has something in common with them.
>>337871050
>His prose is terrible
Simply incorrect. His prose is incredible. He's still a shit, but it's writer because he's almost entirely without imagination
>>337871204
I can understand that, I saw 6 blacks in a single day last week. I thought I was safe in my small village.
>>337871006
That's because his actual cat was named Nigger Man.
There is basically no actual racism in the majority of his stories, because he doesn't feature anyone other than white people; this is accurate, because almost all of his stories are set in the same three towns in Massachusetts where there wouldn't be any other people besides WASPs like himself.
Shadow Over Innsmouth is about a fishing village filled to the brim with half-fish degenerates. This is pretty plainly part of his fears of race-mixing, but specifically stemmed from him finding out his grandmother was Welsh (oh god), and also because he fucking hated fish and thought they were gross.
The only creatures Lovecraft liked were Englishmen, the Ancient Egyptians, and cats. Everyone else was actual fish people in his eyes.
>>337871230
He's always unflattering of anyone with dark skin and the evils of miscegenation is a pretty strong theme in a lot of his stories but thats about it
>>337871006
90% of his stories don't contain a hint of racism other than occasional cats named Nigger-man
>>337871006
how about you just fucking read something of his? He wrote a ton of shorts.
>le crazy monster makes u insane just thinkin about it
>literally just a big guy with an octopus head
lmao
>>337869242
Columbus was a failure whos only famous for getting lucky. Everyone knew the world was round. They also knew how big it was but Columbus was convinced it was smallr, and would have died if the Americas didn't exist. Which, btw, the Norse and maybe the Irish, Welsh, and Basque got to first
Also, he was so brutal that he got imprisoned for crimes against humanity, by the fucking Spanish empire, who were brutal as fuck
>>337871395
He liked gooks and greeks too. He basically only hated blacks and jews and rescinded on the latter later in life.
>>337871395
And greeks
>>337871452
He has psychic powers, that's the part that makes you go insane.
>>337870213I really want to play it but the mmo shit really turns me off
>>337867216
Shit, most people don't know the Cthulhu is just some fictional creature created for the purpose of entertainment. They think the creature is an actual idol that has been around for millenia to be worshipped and shit. I mean they treat it as if its a biblical demon. These people get so butthurt when I mention The Call of Cthulhu it's ridiculous. I guess that's what happens when you let South Park teach you shit.
>>337870652
>it's not a game unless I can kill things
i bet you'd call any dev who experimented otherwise a "nu male" or "cuck". no wonder literally everyone laughs at gamers
>>337871173
Through the Gates of the Silver Key was good because it had both philosophical implications and plot development. You explored galaxies all while following along the fascinating tale.
Whisperers in the dark was good because it was appropriately suspenseful with good pacing.
The Thing at the Doorstep was good because the concept was creepy and the characters were good.
The Music of Erich Zahn was good because it was a quick painting of something very unique and interesting. Unlike Dreamquest of the Unknown Kadath, which is pages and pages of boring nonsense.
Unfortunately that's only four stories. Lovecraft has a shit ton of unmemorable trash that no one ever talks about because it's so shitty.
>>337870230
The Indians who were forced west WERE integrated. Like, there's a reason they were called the civilized tribes
>>337871452
A big guy with an octopus head is your shattered brain desperately trying to understand what it is looking at, and failing
I dont know if this will kean anything to you OP, but Yugiohs did Lovecraft themed cards and didnt make a Cthulu one.
Pic related, Azathoth
>>337871323
>Also, it's interesting you conceded the fact that Andrew Jackson did own more slaves than usual.
No, I didn't concede that, I just didn't feel like arguing about how many slaves he owned.
>have Jewish negro friend a while back
>he said he wouldn't read Orson Scott Card (author of Ender's Game) because Card is a mormon and opposes poopdick marriage
>he goes on to spout Cthulu memes like a redditor faggot despite the fact that Lovecraft was hilariously racist
Fucking liberals, how do they work?
>>337871714
Fuck norden
>>337871006
The Street is kinda ye olde /pol/ but that's it.
Oh and Herber West Reanimator has a very funny description of a nigger face, but it's ancient racism more than actual racism.
>He was a loathsome, gorilla-like thing, with abnormally long arms which I could not help calling fore legs, and a face that conjured up thoughts of unspeakable Congo secrets and tom-tom poundings under an eerie moon.
WHAT DID HE MEAN BY THIS?
>>337871452
dude octopi are fucking gross, slimy fucks with no skeleton and a trillion limbs with suckers on them
of course that'd make anyone go nuts, just imagine how the slimy tentacle hair would stick to the poor sobs shoulders oh god the thought ma
Is there a coldsteel the hedgehog picture of lovecraft shit? Because that's all lovecraft is.
>>337868442
MLK was a communist faggot and a plagiarist and assassinating him was a terrible decision. He's a martyr instead of being exposed as the awful person he truly was.
>>337869851
I agree but I'm no far in the game yet. But so far yes, pretty cool.
Infra Arcana is the shit
>>337871339
>Incredible
If you mean unintelligible, then yes.
Obviously this is an extreme example, but it showcases how little he gave a shit about his readers when attempting to add "character"
>>337871653
It isn't just killing you idiot, it's doing anything at all.
That's a fucking cornerstone of the whole genre, helplessness and hopelessness. This isn't a fucking game if there's nothing to do.
Quit projecting for one goddamn second and try to think about how these games would actually work. Fuck, read his goddamn books and try to envision an actual game based on their plot.
Innsmouth is fucking 70% backstory explained by drunks.
>>337868495
There's literally nothing wrong with being racist.
amateur gamedev here, what should I do with these tentacles? Generic cthulhu or something original?
>>337871395
If he liked cats so much, why'd he name his "nigger man"? I give my cats respectable people names like William and Frank.
I live next door to the house Lovecraft spent most of his life. The actual house wasn't on the market when we moved in but I did the best I could. Just came here to say that.
In the Walls of Eryx was his best story
>>337872034
Make the creature a giant temple and have the tentacles the walls, floors, and ceilings.
>>337871985
not that guy but that is a bitch complaint and you are a bitch
>>337867050
Nice buzzwords. Why are you even on /v/?
>>337871662
>not Dream Quest or Rats in the Walls
>>337871910
>He's a martyr instead of being exposed as the awful person he truly was.
You imply that the current regime of information and history revision would expose any nonwhite as a horrible person instead of literally Jesus. Only white people in history are "LITERALLY HITLER"
>>337872093
>not thinking up cool names or ranks
>Professor von Whiskers
>Colonel Pink
>Pickle
>>337872093
Probably because it was black and niggers are black.
>>337872102
Do you live in the house he wrote a story about, where it was haunted and there was an absolutely gigantic evil statue below it?
>>337872234
Dream Quest was probably my least favorite story because it was just pages and pages of nonsense.
I truly don't understand why anyone likes that story.
>>337872167
He said it was incredible, and I'm simply asking him to defend his atrocious writing.
>>337872034
everyone likes tentacle rape
>>337872291
My cat's name is Meat. He's made of meat, I'm made of meat. He likes meat, I like meat.
Seems like a name he and I could both understand.
>>337871985
>a mock transcript of a written letter is indicative of an author's prose
Are you literally retarded, pal?
Hey /lit/ Im trying to get into Fantasy books, LotRs rambles to much for me but mypsychologist recommended me The Belgariad, Im not to far in atm but it's enjoyable. Any other recs?
>>337872264
Even normies are getting fed up with people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. They won't say it, but tons of normies recognize how bullshit the Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown worship is.
Almost everything we see is derivative of something else.
Music is the same, most melodies you can find in older songs.
Doesn't inherently make anything bad, if someone draws on the work of Lovecraft or Tolkien well it makes for some good reading/watching/vidyaing.
>>337872357
I'm gonna go ahead and call you a fag, now
>>337871748
That's because you can't argue against it: http://thehermitage.com/learn/mansion-grounds/slavery/
Another source, according to historian Remini, Andrew JAckson 2000, p.51 which states he had about 300 slaves, according to an 1820 census.
One would think someone who's living after many of the ideas of the Englithenment would be a better person according to the morals of his time...
Oh and he was also trying to sabotage the anti-abolitionist movement. Fuck you and your shitty idol.
>>337872392
that's a cool cat name
>>337868691
He will return.All those rotten adults are proving his point to Philemon, after all.
>>337872481
Dang okay.
What Lovecraft stories inspired Dark Souls? I've only read Dagon, Call of Cthulhu, and the Dunwich Horror. Maybe a few others.
What's the best Lovecraft short story and why is it the Music of Erich Zann?
>>337871845
I've always thought the whole octopus thing is related to how cephalopoda are the most developed invertebrates: they're "similar" to us vertebrates (eyes, recognizable head and limbs, intelligence) yet completely foreign and unrelated. It's like a paralel path to attaining a higher animal
>>337872535
Slavery was a mistake, now our country is full of niggers and mexicans too. Cheap labor was a mistake.
>>337872613None,
>>337872535
>Thinking there was anything wrong with Slavery
>When blacks were treated better as slaves in America than any slaves in history
Wow so horrible, he made slaves work in exchange for food and shelter.
>>337872294
I don't see any evil statues but it's the house he did most of his writing in, so probably
>>337872430
The Name of the Wind by Pat Rothfuss
>>337871992
Then you fucking demonstrate that. Hopelessness doesn't mean you sit there and do nothing for the length of the game wow "10/10" -ign.
In a medium that's literally all about giving the audience agency over the setting, you're arguably able to make the hopelessness even more poignant by giving them the expected amount of control and efficacy and taking it away as the true hopelessness sets in. That's where bloodborne and the bethsoft CoC adaptation fail when the cosmic elements become apparent, there's never a loss of agency.
>>337872613
Dark Souls isn't inspired by Lovecraft
>>337872613
None specifically, just the vague themes of corruption and cosmic horror which dark souls has to a degree
>>337868481
>tfw this is just the cultist's plan to force C'thulhu to awaken by siphoning off the mental energy of normies whenever they dream.
you are now aware that wayne june, the narrator of the dankest dungeon, did a shit ton of lovecraft audiobooks
https://youtu.be/nDSsXLnnKmo?list=PLCbN-op7qL6dg9T8S43Vb787nwYJRMViG
Lovecraftian themes are "in" right now in card games with Old gods/Cosmic Horrors/Straight up lovecraftian creations.
>>337868739
>>337868698
>>337868597
poo in the streets ruined india
>>337871992
a good point-and-click adventure game could be made where the challenge is deciphering what the drunk people are saying. Of course thats just what reading that story was like. I had a lot of fun reading that crazy shit out loud.
>>337872762
>he made slaves work in exchange for food and shelter.
Like all slave owners. Slaves have to be fed or they die. Andrew Jackson owned lots of slaves. In fact during an election, he was criticized for owning too much slaves and how he treated some of them.
By the standards of his own time, Jackson was far more backwards.
>When blacks were treated better as slaves in America than any slaves in history
Not true. Anyway, there was no room for slavery post after the establishement of the ideas of the Enlightenment.
Slavery is an evil, especially if you believe in Enlightenment values and libertarianism.
>>337872853
>>337872535
Darkest dungeon does it pretty damn well
>>337872676
They damn tasty too
>>337872994
noice, I just got into darkest dungeon recently and the narrator was pretty fucking sweet.
>>337872291
lol ranks?
>Chancellor Snowball
>Divine Magistrate Meow-meow
>>337872870
>>337872712
>>337872613
Oolacile, The Abyss, The Painted World.
DS2 takes a step away from lovecraft
DS3
Literal Eldritch abominations
Fucking Aldrich
Lost city taken over by abyss, Aldrich is a literal Eldritch "scientist". DS1 and DS3 had some lovecraftian themes but it wasn't entirely based off Lovecraft.
Same with Bloodborne, although it is considerably more influenced in that game.
>>337872837
>Mary Sue mc who's good at everything he tries and has all the ladies lusting after him
>50+ pages of fae fucking
>muh denna
>classic case of "new author can set up but can't deliver"
>>337872392
My cat's name is Sophie :3
>>337873241
you're thinking of the second book
first book is more interesting imo
>>337873190
those are some kick ass ranks
now you're getting it
>Pontiff Paws
>>337873009
> Desolation Twin, Incubator Drone
> Not Emrakul and Kozilek
You had 1 job
>>337868481
The cthulhu story still gave me shivers when I read it, but people boil it down to
>LOL Cthulhu R'Lyeh XD
Give me a good tomb exploration game where the sins of the father are given soulless forms that have languished in the pits of an expansive underground crypt
All of Lovecraft's stories revolved around subtle horror that only revealed itself, usually worse than anticipated, at the very end, if at all
Games now only do the
>Objective: Survive
with the big bad attacking straight from the get go, there's no fear from the anticipation at all. It's pointless
>>337871006
I don't think it's that bad.
If you read into it and are really looking for it sure it's there, but the thing is if you're looking for it you'll find racism everywhere like even Ducktales.
Then again I haven't read a lot of lovecrafts book, only The Evil Clergyman and Mein Kampf
>>337873101
Do you have a minute to talk about our lord and savior the NAP?
>>337873419
anon I made this super quickly with whatever I found on my pc. Since I had images of BfZ.... yeah my bad. Have some full art HS old gods for the trouble.
>>337873194
>Same with Bloodborne, although it is considerably more influenced in that game.
how lovecraftian is bloodborne exactly?
it's really the only game I'd want a PS4 for
the themes and aesthetics seem boss but the transforming weapons look really gay and gimmicky
>>337873190
>Her Blessed Empress Sophie
>>337873515
No. I don't talk about failed memes.
>>337873182
>play euro truck
>sleep during the day, truck at night
>play wayne june narrated lovecraft stories
>spooky comfiness intensifies
>>337873572
I suggest you just get it and play it, probably just get off the thread because if you liked the Dark Souls series it has some of the absolute best aesthetics the games have to offer.
The trick weapons are great and are to change it from a Slow to fast weapon to short range to long range etc.
It is really good.
I can tell you it is Lovecraftian and the absolute best game in portraying such.
If it wasn't spoiled for you already I highly suggest you play it before it does.
>>337872951
I've long toyed with a story idea like this where some horrible entity starts showing up in various books and paintings, somehow making itself known and inspiring the artists through dreams or intoxicated visions. All to ground itself in the collective unconscious and eventually become real through that. And someone, the protagonist or narrator, starts somehow catching on to what's happening by investigating the phenomenon, but in so doing sort of becomes the key to finalize the entity's transition from idea to reality. And they want to erase all trace of their research on the subject but the "memetic" threat has latched on and won't let go, the narrator's no longer in full control, and that horror story you were reading was actually part of this whole ritual and BAM the reader just got M. Night Shyamaladingdonged right through the fourth wall.
It's probably a dumb and unoriginal idea and I'm drunk.
>>337873572
I haven't played it, all I know is that if you increase your insight stat enough you'll start seeing some stuff.
>>337867708
Thing on the doorstep? Loved that one.
>>337873819
cool, thanks for the heads up
>>337873572
The tranforming weapons are indeed super gay and gimmicky. I used ludwig's sword and pretended they didn't exist. I also one shot most invaders with it, which frankly, felt shitty after the first time.
Anyway, it's super Lovecraft.
>>337867848
There was an instance of a black woman winning the "Howard", which is a prize for writers who do sci-fi horror, and she went apeshit about it because it's a bust of lovecraft and of course, media defended the idea that the prize itself was racist, lo and behold, it was the last Howard to ever exist.
>>337867050
If someone doesn't think Bloodborne didn't do it right, it just means they have not played bloodborne.
>>337873828
That's the plot of In the Mouth of Madness
>>337869032
>>337872000
>
Read the bible sometime Fellas
>>337867310
you know, I remember having a creepy-ass bug with this game. there's a part of the game where you spot a guy who hangs himself, and the camera momentarily zooms in on him all spooky-like. you lose control of the character for that moment where that mini-cutscene happens.
well, my game zoomed in on the hanging guy, and it.. never zoomed out. the game bugged out and just got stuck in that mini-cutscene-like moment, perpetually looking at the hanging man, slowly swinging back and forth.
I remember at first I thought, "maybe I have to press a key", but no keys would work. at the time, I couldn't tell if it was intended or not. it would just stay there, zoomed in on the hanging man, never looking away.
sort of freaked me the fuck out at the time. creepy as fuck place to have a bug.
..it was a bug, right?
>>337874052
Are you serious? That's like one of a small handful of stories I haven't read. God fucking damn it.
>>337872535
You're a nigger aren't you
>>337873572
>Transforming weapons look really gay and gimmicky
You should play it, your eyes are yet to open.
>>337867989
I'm pissed that they went generic sci-fi setting after the original Quake. If anything else I hope they go back to the original tone in the inevitable reboot but I'm not holding my breath.
>>337871641
Personally I like that cthulhu has evolved into that, just lends more power to lovecrafts image
>>337874116
No, I don't defend unusual slavery even by the time and places' standards.
>>337872430
Good Omens is the funniest thing I've read in my life and I recommend it to everyone
Snowcrash is fun, balls to the walls cyberpunk
Hyperion duology for epic sci-fi
Books of the New Sun for low magic fantasy
Johnny Nuemonic, Burning Chrome, Neuromancer, ect. for early Gibson cyberpunk
>>337874108
I know its different for everyone but that story is my favorite and one of the best. Read it asap anon. Also dont get over hyped by what I'm saying, I just love and it slowly unfold.
>>337868481
Fuck why is this so cute
>>337874102
I can't remember where it happened for me but I've also experienced a bug where the camera zooms in on something and never returns to its proper position.
even a dead god can dream
>>337867050
Yeah, he was pretty influential. Unfortunately his writing style sucks compared to his ideas so he doesn't really get the credit he deserves.
>>337874260
I have Good Omens and will now read it because of this post. Had a gay ass cover so I never read it.
>>337868395
probably the best of all the games that try to tackle the sanity aspect.
>>337873412
Thanks.
>Archduke Mittens
>Supreme Justice Fluffy
>Grand Vizier Felix
>Chairman Purr
>>337874084
it's 2016
why would anyone ever do that?
sort of lovecraftian themed, mostly in the whole "unknowable driving man mad" aspect, also with scary monsters
if there's one thing dead space 3 did great it's showing how easy it is to fuck up lovecraftian themes when you try to translate them literally to a visual medium
all that ambiguous mumbo jumbo is pretty rockin on paper, but you put a big ass tentacle monster on screen and shoot rocks at it, it becomes laughable really fast
>>337873572
The entire game is basically a love letter to Lovecraft. It goes a lot more in depth than just your regular surface level stuff that some games do. I mean, there are a lot of games that have Body Horror and Cthulu inspired monsters that are designed to look creepy and eldritch, but Bloodborne really covers the deeper Lovecraft themes of knowing things man wasn't supposed to know etc. The Great Ones in the game are depicted as truely superior being, and we get only the tiniest hint of their motives. Throughout th entire game theres a sense of utter hopelesness and feeling that things are fucked beyond belief
As well as the Cthulu mythos stuff the game is also inspired by Lovecrafts lesser known "Dream Quest" stories, and follows his themes of blending dream and reality. Some of the locations are flat out said to be dreams/nightmares.
It really captures the spirit of Lovecraft's work whilst still being a fun game to play and I definitely recommend it. Not sure if it's worth buying a PS4 for, but still great
>>337873828
>Do you read Sutter Cane?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9hDRiJY6nk
>>337873190
>Dragonslayer Pepper
>Executioner Kitty-face
