Bethesda exec
>We give them the old school FPS they wanted and reviewers shit on it.
Bump this shit thread.
>>337859145
>Using IGN as the picture reference for reviewers.
Fucking disgraceful.
I like Doom 4, it's not amazing but it looks nice and plays well and doesn't waste your time with pointless cutscenes
what it does do is waste your time asking you if you want to continue after you die. Why is it so hard to make a game automatically load your last checkpoint upon death? Tons of games do it.
>>337859145
>have a gtx 670 and still only get 40-50 fps
i thought this card would be good for a while but i guess it's already outdated. i normally don't play new games anyway, but the requirements for this Doom seemed a bit over the top. like the 55GB
>>337859145
they gave Alien Isolation a 5.9 as well
>>337861016
>i thought this card would be good for a while but i guess it's already outdated.
Nigga, it was released literally over four years ago.
>>337859145
>Single Player is Great but Multiplayer is tacked on trash
Even IGN can see that. Maybe next time the multiplayer won't be an afterthought by a separate team.
>>337861691
>over four years ago.
has it really been that long? i havent been keeping track
>>337861672
Alien Isolation was shit though. Yeah it was neat for a while, but the gimmick dies pretty quickly
>>337861893
Literally everyone recognizes Minecraft these days.
>>337859145
yeah, but from pic related the points were docked because of the shitty multiplayer. This means that the old school FPS single player you mentioned was ultimately successful
>>337861893
>Minecraft won over Metro 2033
And that's where you all stop caring about reviewers.
>>337860249
Because sometimes you may want to go to the main menu to change a setting, play mutliplayer, or turn the game off.
>>337861893
IGN is shit cancer, but when will you retards stop thinking that scores are for comparing games to one another? No one in their right mind would pit Metro against Minecraft. They have absolutely nothing in common aside from being first person.
>>337861820
>Less than a console generation
> time to upgrade
PCucks always chasing the numbers
IGN reviews have always been shit. They mainly gave Doom and average score because the multiplayer was shit, which it is.
>>337861893
>Complains that Metro's soundtrack is just ambience
>While also saying Minecraft's soundtrack leaves a lasting impression
??????
>TB loves it
day 1 buy
>>337862240
yet i can still play almost every game from now back to the beginning of time. meanwhile your consoles can play a small selection from last gen, if at all
sorry bro
>>337862357
LOL
>mfw video is up to 7k dislikes now
>>337862240
don't forget to buy Neo after just 3 years
>>337859145
>FPS action from a simpler time
Am I the only one fucking triggered by this bullshit?
When FPS used to have huge intricate maps with tons of exploration and secrets, when the pacing was perfect and all the guns were original and fun to use and it didn't need to use cinematics and scripted bullshit to inmerse the player and ham-fist you any story that would be awful anyway.
NOW are the simpler times. Games like CoD or BF are fucking braindead mechanically compared to the golden age of FPS from the late 90s, what the fuck is this clueless idiot talking about.
>>337863448
but they have planes and mouselook
>>337863448
>guiz guiz my childhood was so unique and special XD, new stuff is not XP
end yourself
>>337859145
He's right you know. Single player and bosses are great but multiplayer is really bad
>>337861894
No.
>>337863646
>le edgy contrarian
k
<l:o)-S-C
>>337861893
Honestly don't care about "ign's reviewer" look at the person who reviews the god damn game, It could be some 8 year old kid but with the ign stamp of approval review, seriously it's why i only follow certain people/e-celebs
That being said, DOOM 4 Ign review is rock solid, MP sucks, don't try to defend it.
>>337859145
>outsource multiplayer to the guys that designed the worst Halo multiplayer experience
>surprised when it's shit
wew lads
>>337859145
Reviewers are different from consumers. Very different.
>>337859145
>>337863909
its contrarian to hate new shooters and like outdated archaic shooters
>>337859145
Perhaps they should have not even bothered with the multiplayer and use those resources to make extra single player content.
Just look at the 3 Bioshock games, the 2 games that don't have multiplayer are both considered masterpieces.
>>337860203
Not OP, but that's what everyone else has been doing tonight. /v/ is all about selective reasoning when it comes to pushing forward their own shitty agendas.
>>337863747
>this "reviewer" suited my narrative, so he must be right !
classic vee
>>337862181
Scores inherently invite comparison. Either comparisons exist or there should be no scores.
>ign
ill take my leave then.
>>337863646
Fuck off, I wasn't even into FPS that much when most of them were released.
I can value current FPS for what they are, but this idiot looking down on old-school FPS like they were nothing because current cookie-cutter cinematic FPS are more complex somehow is retarded as shit.
>>337859145
I agree with the results, but remember that the single player campain was what made Doom the awesome shit it was back in the day, and the single player campain in this one is awesome.
>>337864131
Different reviewers
>>337864196
Current FPS are more realistic and believable as cinematic events, and that is what They want.
>>337863646
This post looks like you just followed that "how to reply on /v/" image
>>337864131
>stellaris reviewer Rowan Kaiser
>DOOM reviewer Joab Gilroy
>same person
Fuck off, same company go fucking yell at the exec's
>>337864131
Stellaris does suck. It honestly deserves less than a 5 on a fair rating scale. The game is completely bland, uninspired Paradox trash. It feels like a mod for EUIV.
>>337859145
How is this old school?
>>337864481
at least EUIV has functional diplomacy and proper wargoal system
>>337863747
Sure, I can see 7/10 or even 6/10 as a reasonable score for the game. But the problem is that almost every other AAA game gets an inflated score.
Call of Duty Ghosts scored higher on IGN with almost a 9/10. Give me a fucking break. They hand out 8/10s and 9/10s like candy. For Doom to get a 7 on their scale shows how fucking retarded they are. "But reviews don't matter." Well history shows that yes they do. It influences publishers all the time. Just look at Fallout New Vegas' lukewarm reception, and the fallout (no pun intended) that had on the series including on the guys at Obsidian. The dumbass Bethesda executive will look at these reviews and think
>well clearly people don't want this type of game
which means we're never gonna get any decent big budget attempts at a classic style FPS like this one for a long time.
>>337864519
Because the title is Doom. Literally it.
>>337864558
Doom is cartoonish and kiddy. Demons invading and shit. Call of Duty brings home the real horror of war in a visceral and serious expeHOOOORAH
>>337864612
Oh, okay.
>>337864612
and there's no reloading
and there's no regenerating health
and there's no 2 weapon limit
and there's almost no story
and there is actual level design
>>337859145
Bethesda Exec
>We give them old school FPS they wanted and reviewers praise it for Singleplayer
>Let's out source fucking halo/cod and make Doom Cod MP
I hope people see this as a good warning for future games, Loadouts/perks/kill streaks fucking suck
>>337859145
>Old school FPS
>Main method of gaining ammo back is by performing executions
Fuck you
>>337864745
>He cared about this turd enough to either look up a video of a significant portion of gameplay or actually buy the game
What do you expect when you don't pay for ad revenues ?
I didn't see any full page ads . that's an automatic 7-8
>bulletstorm is a better game than nudoom
fucking kek
>>337864824
The main method of getting ammo is finding it in the map. You get a chainsaw to get a bunch of ammo when depleted in a pinch. You're thinking of health, dumb shit.
>>337864980
it's really not
>>337864940
Why did you leave reddit? Go back there.
>>337859145
Sounds like a pretty fair review. Everyone shit on dooms multiplayer loadout system.
All we wanted was a single player as good as the multiplayer. All you needed for that was a more unreal tournament layout for for your multiplayer.
>>337864296
>They
>capital "T"
Wh-who's they?
Why didn't they get those guys who revived Wolfenstein to make Doom? That game was pretty fucking fun. So far in Doom I've done nothing but stagger and melee instakill everything, which got old an hour ago.
>>337865378
Reviewers
>>337859145
Its a positive review you fucking retard. Why do people only care about numbers? Is it really just because you are so terrified of discussing actual thoughts that you need discussion to boil down to flinging numbers at each other?
>>337865118
>He thinks reddit hates video games
>>337863448
>When FPS used to have huge intricate maps
Nah fuck those mazes. Current FPS maps are pathetically linear but mazes are not good map design.
>>337865420
How horrifying!
>>337859145
7.1 is better than average and hey guess what the multiplayer is fucking bad
>>337861893
I love to hate IGN. It's like a fucking hobby to me.
>>337865679
has anyone actually bought the game on the right ?
>>337865797
IGN
>>337864745
>and there is actual level design
What does this mean, exactly?
>>337864558
Exactly this. Even if its gets decent sales the reveiews will kill a chance for a sequel, or even better, a Quake 5 that's focused on MP and ditches the campaign that they brought for 4.
>>337865904
Instead of linear corridors and restricted set pieces typical of modern FPS, the game has a lot more varied areas. The levels are semi-linear. Sometimes it funnels you down a certain path, even locking you in rooms until you clear the enemies, while othertimes you are given free reign to explore areas in whatever order you desire. Lots of secrets tucked away and multiple ways to get to the same area. There are even levels where you hunt down for keycards, reminiscent of old Doom. Looking at the map for secrets is like something straight out of Metroid Prime. Surprising amount of platforming too. Its not just that you run at a decent speed at the game, but that you can jump around too like you're in Duke 3D. The levels are designed around this ability with verticality often coming into play when dealing with enemies or looking for secrets.
Any other game design topic I can help you with?
Remember, you can't spell "ignorant" without "IGN."
>>337859145
>BOOHOO THEY GAVE US EXCLUSIVE FOOTAGE BUT NOT EARLY ACCESS GAME.
Besthda didn't give a gift basket.
When they don't and get salty always add 1.5 or 2 points to the score.
It's probably an 8.1 but they docked them a point for no early review copy
>>337862161
Do that after the game reloads you tremendous faggot.
>>337866539
"Why wasn't this game made for babies?"
>>337866485
The only thing reminiscent of old Doom here is the name.
This is Halo with glory kills.
>>337861893
I prefer minecrafts art direction desu
>>337859145
>bastardized games that play it safe by sitting between new and old are GREAAAAAT guys
>>337867030
Seriously, they could've said the exact same shit for Dark Souls and they praise it like it's the next messiah of gaming. If anything, that game was plagued with some horrible game design, wacky framerate, and PLATFORMING in a fucking ARPG.
>>337859145
If this games multiplayer was as good as its SP, it would have gotten at least a 8-9/10. Would have been a full package.
>>337867235
you have never played doom or halo have you anon
>>337867343
Slow down man, more than 2 weapons. No reloading? This is OG shit.
Levels, story, weapons all like Halo.
>>337867235
you've obviously never played either
stop embarrassing yourself
>>337867540
The levels, story, and weapons are nothing like Halo.
>>337867469
>>337867561
YOU obviously have played neither. See my argument there? Took a page from your book. #trashed
Take a walk until you've got something.
>>337867408
Dark Souls obviously gets an exemption due to having a fanbase. Same reason why Skyward Sword didn't get trashed. Reviewers just shew the game through with a good score so they don't have to deal with fan bitching on their twitter/email/comments, etc
>>337867725
*pats you on the head*
>>337867725
you're comparing two things that are not similar by any means
there is no argument
>>337859145
>+ Boss battles
>just having boss battles at all is enough to get a plus from reviewers these days
>this is what video games have become
>>337867725
>>337867809
>>337867956
Lightning is cute! CUTE!
>>337859145
>from a simpler time
>FPS games have only gotten more simplified and dumbed down as the years went on
heh
>>337868036
Simpler presentation-wise
>>337859145
I find it fair.
I haven't played it but according to most SP maps you explore, get locked into a good sizable area and duke it out with demons, rinse and repeat. It would've been better even if you had only a few levels that played out differently from that.
Also let's be honest, everyone knew the MP was shit, it says a lot that even usually paid off reviewers think the MP is absolute garbage.
Who are these people on /v/ who buy every single tribble A as soon as it releases only to berate them?
>shit multiplayer
>no mod support
>ugly visuals
>shitty music
>awful guns
>bland level design
It does seem like they tried but the game really just isn't that good.
>>337868402
>>ugly visuals
no
>>337864745
It might as well be regenerating health seeing as enemies shower you in health packs whenever you kill something when you're low on HP.
>>337868402
nice bait kid
(You)
>>337868504
Textures being high resolution and lighting effects being good doesn't mean the game isn't ugly as sin. just a bland space station filled with bland enemies, and your guns look retarded.
aesthetically the game is shit.
>Multiplayer is so bad that it drags down a game with a full single player experience
>Nathan Drake's generic TPS adventure 4 gets a 93
>Doomguy's awesome demon killing thrill ride gets a 71
Fuck this goddamn shitty industry
>>337867860
Kek, boss battles would be a minus a few years ago (even months ago). Fucking reviewers mang.
so what's the rating if only intend play single player and don't give a damn about mp?
>>337865534
>ugh, thinking is so hard
>literally if they left out the multiplayer then the score would be better
>>337861016
that's what you ask for buying Nvidia and expecting it to last long term, especially when the new cards are releasing.
>>337863448
There were FPS where the maps were shit as well, Doom 2 I think is a pretty good example of mazelike maps going way too far and making the game a chore to play.
>>337868981
It is the best modern shooter for that unless you want to put on your contrarian pants and argue about Wolfenstein
>>337869384
>haha I'll post a simplistic map to mock him, because all the maps are exactly the same anyway!
>>337869779
Or shadow warrior
>>337868937
doom doesnt have forced feels in it, its testosterone dripping metal of fucking awesome balls deep thrill ride that never lets up
nathans cinematic bland tps with x to jump sections has feels in it so instant 10/10 goty goat citizen kane of vidya
>>337869914
Shadow Warrior 2 might even make DOOM irrelevant if it is even a smidgen better
Still a more fair and respectable review than Polygon's "IT'S TOO VIOLENT AND THERE'S NO STORY" SJW tantrum.
>>337869818
this is the most complex one I can find. notice how nothing is too far from the central hub and there are plenty of landmarks. if you can dress yourself and drive to work then you can play a doom game.
>>337862240
>Four years
>Still outperforms consoles by a wide margin
PC master race is never satisfied with mediocrity. You're free to do "you", friend. We're all pals here.
>>337870095
Yeah no, Shadow warrior may become a big hit after all but not as big as D44M
>>337860249
Too hard to press space is it?
Would you prefer if the game played itself too?
>>337859145
>Literally the only flaws listed are for the multiplayer
>Probably wouldve gotten a 9/10 if it were single player only, but the multiplayer is there and that makes it a multiplayer game with a campaign
fuck these goddamn websites ugghh
>>337863998
It's super fast, no remain timer, no reloading, high damage.
You need to be able to hit a fast moving target 90+% of the time or you will have a terrible time in the Multiplayer.
Essentially, If you like the campaign on Nightmare, you will enjoy the Multiplayer.
If you prefer slow moving, low skill gameplay, you will hate the Multiplayer.
you know how bad things are when one of the classics is remade into a somewhat decent game and the reviewers are only talking about the multiplayer aspect
>>337871058
karma for id's half assed attempt to appeal to to the people who don't even know what doom is. shouldn't have even bothered like wolf: TNO
>>337871475
is the last wolf any good?
>>337867235
Here's your (you)
>>337867360
>programmer art
>"""""art direction"""""
>>337871697
>is the last wolf any good?
Minus all the magical jew occult supertech plot line they try to shove down your throat, it was pretty fun.
>>337871697
if by last you mean TNO then yes /v/ loved it on release and it was one of the best singleplayer FPSes in 10 years
>>337872204
it was hilarious
>>337872382
TNO was bland garbage that /v/ only likes because its a hipster thing to do
>>337864031
>you'll never get bullied by a bunch of schoolgirls like that
>they'll never punish you
thanks, life
>>337872459
reply
>>337871697
TNO was fantastic, great game and best single player FPS of the decade as far as I'm concerned.
The Old Blood was much worse in just about every way.
>>337872459
this, I started playing it after doom because I wanted more fps and it feels like I'm playing fucking call of duty except with the occasional bullet sponge giant robot enemy
>>337872578
ok, but it's still an unremarkable game.
Definition of 6/10
>>337859145
>The only part that matters is all positives
>The part that doesn't is all negatives
Seems good to me
>>337859145
No, no, no anon, reviewers want more movie games like Uncharted 4 to throw high scores at.
Actual games don't really come into consideration for the "important" reviewers.
>>337859145
That's a much higher score than the game deserves.
Their opinion basically mirrors everyone else that isn't a Bethdrone.
>SP is stupid fun. Not much depth, but an absolute joy to playthrough
>MP is generic garbage with upcoming DLC cancer
>SnapMap is cool, but severely limited thanks to consoles.
I think a 7/10 is a decent score if you judge the game as a whole. If there was no MP, or the MP was more akin to either classic DOOM or Quake, the game would've probably scored higher. I'd personally give it a 9/10 at that point.
>>337868573
The name of the game is "flow". You use guns to kill enemies. When you're low on ammo you can get more from enemies by killing them in a specific way. When you're low on health you can get more by killing enemies in a specific way. You never stop fighting, and the combat never stops, that's the whole point. If you were expecting DOOM of all games to focus on strategy and forward planning, then I don't know what to tell you. We got exactly what was advertised.
>>337861894
Maybe Doom and Alien are just examples of niche game that simply have no place in the broader mass-market appeal of Triple A market.
Sure It's a fun survival horror, arena shootist throw back but like it or not your average consumer is gonna feel ripped off on compare it to the latest assassins Creed sand box. The review reflect that.
>>337861894
>>337863804
>>337872807
my biggest problem with the game is the snapmap
>have to use already made pieces
>only differentiation you can have are setpieces a-la halo
>player AND enemy limit
what the fuck else is there. you cant make a unique level because you cant even design your own fucking rooms
>>337859145
Needed more strong black women. Would have bumped the score up 1.5 points easily.
>>337865679
>>337862485
Have a laptop that handles emulators and older games just fine. I even use my DS4 for said games.
>does that trigger you
>>337873598
does it trigger me that you're poor? not at all
>>337861894
the game gradually went to shit after the flamethrower. still a 7/10 for not falling for AAA game conventions.
>>337873671
meanwhile most laptops are more expensive than a ps4
>>337866485
holy shit i'm actually impressed by that level design if its truly as non-linear as doom 1 was.
fuck if only doom 4 had mod support i'd be on it without any hesitation
>>337873347
Yeah. I'm hoping modding outside of SnapMap on PC is a possibility. Maybe even a way to extend SnapMap to load in custom assets and bypass any limitations.
If shit like that happens, we'll probably enter another golden age of DOOM modding with both the new DOOM and the classic titles.
>>337873760
you can try to justify your lack of a good desktop all you want, doesn't matter much to me
>>337873875
that isn't what you said though, you said he was poor, not that he had a shitstation. his laptop is more than likely much more expensive than even a desktop
>>337871205
eh
if you play quake 3, reflex or UT4 the multiplayer of doom 4 seems kind of dumb. That doesnt make the game worse though, the game didnt even need multiplayer in the first place. Would of rather had mod support
>>337874069
now you're pretending to be a different person. getting a little freaky here, bro
>>337872629
>>337872382
>>337872459
>>337872204
ok thanks anons
>>337873498
>>337874184
GO ON FUCKER QUOTE BOTH OF US ILL PROVE YOU WRONG IN A FUCKING HARTBEAT KID
>>337865420
Oh, I thought you meant the Illuminati.
>>337859145
You know, if they just made it a purely single-player game, maybe it would be 'better'.
You know modern 'muh garm jizznalist' always puts too much emphasis on the fucking multiplayer.
fuck multiplayer
That review isn't wrong tho
And what the fuck happened to 7/10 being good? /v/ needs to get their heads out of their assholes
>>337875983
This, honestly I'm not even going to touch the multiplayer, it just seems like duct taped on because apparently its necessary in this gen to have it.
>>337860203
I love this, the Wolfenstein reboots, and the Shadow Warrior reboot. None of them deserve higher than a 7.5 though.
>>337859145
I'm tempted to buy the collector's edition
Should I?
>>337859145
>7,1 and a general review of being a GOOD game is now apparently not an acceptable result
>>337859145
Who here waiting to Washington Post review?
WE LOVE YOU COMICS RIFF!!! YOU'RE SO UNBIASED!!!
>>337878745
Is the same with uncharted 4, fanboys are worst than reviewers.
>retards shit up comments and mass downvote any review that gives a hyped game lower than a 9
and people wonder why a reviewer would be tempted to accept bribes and overrate games
>>337870205
>mfw I knew what map that was by the minimap before reading the filename
god damn, I didn't think I played doom that much
>>337859145
>We give them something that isn't old school FPS and we call it old school FPS despite it being a conglomeration of mostly modern stylings and major technological blunders.
>>337881336
>I didn't think I played doom that much
That's more indicative of how your mind works than how much you've played Doom.
>>337868149
>I haven't played it but
well let me stop you right there, dumbass
The levels definitely become varied once you hit hell (RPS does a good article about this) but idk why you would feel the need to interject about something you haven't interacted with other than watching some other retard bumble around.
>>337881529
>your entire point is refutable simply because you don't have hands on experience, especially when you openly admit this
You get triggered real easily, don't you?
I played enough MP to know that's shit from the Beta. Also that my PC can't handle Doom right now. But I also know a lot of people say that until then, things are kinda repetitive thanks to the whole lockdown thing.
It's good to hear things are different in Hell but 100% of OG Doom played that way. You getting locked into one specific area to fight is usually part of the level design, not the basis for a good chunk of the map unless that was the main gimmick of a WAD.
Besides, the major point you ignored because
>I stopped reading right there
is that if the MP is terrible, I find it well within reason to deck the game's score a couple of points, especially a game actively priding itself on the MP. Let's not forget that's what they showed off to begin with. Let's not forget that the biggest reason why people are surprised the SP isn't shit is because of their impression of the MP beta. MP that cannot be improved because it would have to be fundamentally changed, and no game dev is willing to do that nowadays.
A significant part of the game is dreck people won't play after the heyday of a few months. Snapmap, co-op through that, and the SP is going to be Doom's staying power. Considering they wanted to include MP in that list, they failed and earned a lower score as a result.
>>337865679
>>337873498
IMAGINE
You're god hand, and you have to be all daayuum, a wii game looks like that? You still got it, with your horrible rez graphics and shit controls...
>>337859145
I'd give a review but I can't fucking afford it. God damn it sucks to have some level of nostalgia for a game that basically gets redone but you can't enjoy it because of bills. Thx.
