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Can you actually "half-press" a button?
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Can you actually "half-press" a button?
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ha ha i don't think you can, i don't think you can.
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>>337833517
Yes. It's quite simple. A quarter push is a different story.
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Yes
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>>337834292

heh. call me back when you've performed a 1/128ths press, kiddo
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>>337833517

depends on context
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dumb meme thread
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>>337834594
dumb namefag post
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>>337833517
No
What they describe as a 'half press' is a held button
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>>337833517
This meme is dead. Bury it. Consider this mercy
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>>337834683
ok
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>>337833517
Yes.
What you are referring to is called a Down-press.

It's use by keyboard activity recording programs.
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That video broke me.
All that effort to exploit bugs, and fucking aeons of waiting, just to do something that wouldn't even warrant thinking about when playing conventionally.
Mind boggling. Just because you can do something doesn't mean it's a good idea.
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>>337833517
"""""""""""""Henry"""""""""""""
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>>337834502
>there's porn of henry
Right when I gave up on you internet you prove me wrong yet again
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I find it funny how he demands that the button press of A is just as complex as rocket science.
A press is a press, what he means is holding the a button and releasing the hold. Use the fucking english language given to you you fucking americans
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>>337835298
>1 million views
>never makes another video

I think we made him disappear
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>>337835298
but anon
playing and beating super mario 64
mario initially being named simply "jump man"
without jumping
There's magic in doing what you're told, but in the manner that's least convenient for all parties involved
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>>337833517
He defined his actions as a half press.
Since he defined what he meant as half an a press and was consistent of course he can.
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The more interesting question is - if we accept that the A button can be pressed n times, what are the possible values of n? The set of integers is a given, and evidently at least some of the rationals, but what about other sets? Could the number of one's A-presses be an irrational number?
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Certain setups can be pressure sensitive but universally you have a down press and a pressed release.
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>>337835521
Come on, that's lewd at worst
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Once the button is fully pressed it is 1 press. Releasing it it not the second half of the press, it's another action.
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>>337835905
I seriously hope that picture is real.
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>"Half an A press"
>Describes the process in thirds
Not only does this guy have severe autism, but also severe down syndrome.
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>>337835651
It's defined like that for the purposes of counting the total number of times you are required to press A.
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>>337833517
The half press was just a term used to distinguish a run where he holds the a button through levels. It technically isn't no a press because he pressed it previously. There is no literal half a press, it's just a way of explaining the concept
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>>337835824
>>337835824
It'll probably still just be either a whole number or a number and a half. the half a press is defined by the fact that the press has 2 distinct phases of usefulness so it's unlikely to see a 1/3 a press or anything
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>>337835905
A full press is both the depression and release of a button, the release is just the second half of the entire action.
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>this shit was 4 months ago
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>>337836187
So he is just playing retard for the clickbait power, gotchya.
Good to know he is cancer
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>>337835674
he has a second channel that he regularly posts videos on
just yesterday he posted a video about the rng in sm64 quite interesting actually
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>>337835674
Nah, he just uploads most of his stuff on his alternate channel, because he wants to post only the highest quality videos on the main one (voice over, explanations, more editing)
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>>337836336
That's not quite what I intended to convey, no.
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>>337835651
If you are talking about a specific level that only requires a button held down (not pressed or released) and you beat it without pressing the button then how did you beat the level?

It's rather simple really, the button was held down before the level started. So in that case when referring specifically to the level and how it was beaten without pressing the button your logic demands that it was never pressed.

Now that doesn't make much sense.
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Is there a game with a higher learning curve than Mario 64?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiuLeTE2MeQ

New video on how RNG works
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>>337833517
Honestly the dude's explanation made sense in the context.

It's not that you're half-pressing a button, it's that you're pressing the button before you start the course and then continuing to hold it down inside the course. So, if you're counting presses for the whole game, the course requires zero additional presses, but if you're just counting for the course, it requires one. You can use one button press to do two things.

Calling it half a press is a little weird but if you listen to the explanation you can understand what he means.
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>press A
>mario jumps
>is not a full press somehow

The act of "pressing" was done and the character did something. Are you telling me that you are techinicly not pulling the trigger of a gun if you never let go of your finger?
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No you can't half click an a button.

There are three processes of the A button.

The Click, which makes you jump

The Hold, which puts you in the state where you can do the kick movement

and the release. which brings you back to your normal state.

Everyone, even pannenkoek agrees on this. This is a fact, this is in the coding of the game, we can all see it.

There for it's impossible to half click it.

You click the button, and hold it down. You've done 2/3rds of the process.

Even if you want to say "well you havn't finished the second process of holding yet! which is dumb but lets say you want to say that

then it's a 1/3rd a click.
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>>337836829
UGH!!!
You are probably against people of colour aswell < <
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>>337836829
If you were holding down the trigger before entering the building, you would not be pulling the trigger inside the building.
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>>337836829
Well if we're talking about simply holding down the trigger, that's a half trigger pull
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>>337836829
At least watch the video, man. He doesn't jump.
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The 'press' is a physical thing, most computers don't read it, with exception of things like force sensitive resistors.
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>>337837094
You've finished the first third and you're halfway through the second third, so that's 3/6 of a button press at that stage.
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This is a pointless semantic argument about a dude who just wants to play through SM64 without jumping at all. He can consider the A press/release distinct actions if he wants to for the purpose of his self-imposed challenge.
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>>337837308
Bzzt. The press is one process, the hold is one process, the release is one process. Once you've reached the hold, no matter how long you hold it, you are already doing the hold process in its fullest capacity. The only process remaining is the release.

You can't be half way through holding it, you are either holding it or not holding it.
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>>337835905
How did we go from Martin Luther King to this
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I wonder what the SM64 devs think about this
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>>337836829
Your logic is slightly flawed so lemme use your analogy to explain it.

Imagine your A button is like a double action revolver. You push A you jump, you pull the trigger the gun goes bang. However alot more is happening in the background as you press A, much like how alot more is going on in the background when you pull the trigger of a double action revolver.

Now let's say you had your revolver and for some reason you encounter a situation where you gotta pull it out and pull the hammer back. You don't quite have to make it go bang as the hammer getting pulled back was enough to a complete your task. You could have just completely pulled the trigger by itself in the beginning but it wasn't necessary, therefore you gave it a Half Trigger Press so those watching would see the hammer pull back.
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>>337837895
Read this>>337837094
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On my 9th viewing I realized that the guy said this ONLY, I repeat, ONLY applies to a larger run where you do press a button beforehand and thus, to properly summarize the correct score, can't see it as a separate push.

But it's still wrong, because then it's not half a push, it's 0 pushes of the A button.
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>>337837978
Read this>>337836516
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>>337837621
The hold is, in fact, a continuous process. It is not complete until you finish holding it.

The release, on the other hand, is not actually a process at all, merely the cessation of a process.

The only process that has been completed at the holding stage is the initial press, which is the first half. The moment of release signals the completion of the second half.
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>>337837697
Jews designed hip hop culture
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Can we officially declare Mario 64 a meme game now?
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>>337838117
IF the release doesn't count as a process and the holding is a continuous process, then you are already finished the first process completely, and are halfway through the second making it a 3/4th a click.

Theres no point in which it becomes a half a click.
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>>337837279
>force sensitive resistors
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>>337838080
Doesn't he release it at some point? So for the purposes of counting, that marks the end of being able to use the previous press. If he got through without having to release it I imagine he wouldn't have to count it because he can coast on it.
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>>337838254
It does if you only count complete processes.
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>>337836829
He did press the button, but it was before he went into the stage, which means if he were doing a longer run over multiple stages/stars, he would only have to press the A button once between them using his strategy, as long as he continued to hold it down. He's just using the term "half-press" as a simple way to illustrate this, because it's an important distinction to make when you're going out of your way to press A as little as possible. If you're only doing the one stage, technically he should count half A presses as full ones.
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>>337833517

Why is it always Nintendo fags that make up new terms for shit that's already named, like Negative Edge or half the retarded shit in Smash?
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>>337838789
Maybe it's because people who play mostly Nintendo games rarely venture outside of them?
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>>337833517
No. The button can be pressed or unpressed (unless you're using an analogue button like the PS2 controller.

That said, the game itself can register button presses in different ways. Mario 64 responds to an unpressed button becoming pressed and a pressed button continuing to be pressed, but has no response for a pressed button becoming unpressed.

When you first push down the A button in Mario 64, the game registers the change in states and makes Mario jump. If you keep A held the game registers that the button is still depressed and allows for things like slow falling and kicking. When you release the button the game does nothing. You can't half-press a button, but there are ways to use the second function of the game (detecting if the button is held down) without using the first (detecting if the button is changing from unpressed to pressed).

Also, it's fucking shorthand and he's explained what it means a million times. It means you had to press the button at some point in the past but not in this particular level. You need to round up when considering the level on its own, but round down when considering an entire play-through.
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fuck you henry, just watch the video
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>>337833517
>Half presses
Those were so 5 months ago. I do quarter presses myself.
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>>337833517
apparently the PS2 had 26 levels of depression on its face buttons, the only game I remember using a half press was mgs2
both ps3 and 4 have half press face buttons and ps4 had trigger depression too
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>>337838789

Because they're retarded faggots that are trying to legitimize a party game within a established community without understanding said community.
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>>337839121
He actually did and took his argument back.

You fags jump on the Henry hate bandwagon without even having watched all the videos.
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>>337837697
They killed MLK before he was finished
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>>337839662
This, desu
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>>337836376
>>337836421
What is the name of this channel?
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>>337837697
Blacks don't even know him.

Sure, they know the name. They know muh equality. But they don't know what MLK actually said.
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>>337837697
Pretty sure MLK would have killed himself anyways if he saw how blacks are these days.
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>>337833517
Somebody post Phunk Phantom.
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>>337840410
https://www.youtube.com/user/pannenkeok2012
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>>337840680
Thank you very much.
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>>337840843
no problemo
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>>337836624
>There will never be a game that uses Mario's advanced moveset to its fullest.
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You actually can't. A button is binary. It's either on or off. For a program buttons have 4 states, which all have to do with the input from the previous cycle to the current.
>null: 0 - 0 (previously off and currently off)
>pressed: 0 - 1 (previously off and currently on)
>held: 1 - 1 (previously on and currently on)
>released: 1 - 0 (previously on and currently off)

So you can't half press a button. What they call a "button press" is actually a "press and release." And they say that if the button is held from the previous stage and only released in the current then it was "half pressed", which is speedrunner lingo for "released but not pressed in the current stage."
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>>337838580
Yeah and he would count them in a full game run but as others have said a level run starts from the star select screen but he already had A held before that, so the button was held before the start of his run, I "suppose" it could technically by a no A press run as well but that'd be less true due too the fact he is releasing the A button, hence he calls it a half press
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