What is the cheapest pc build that can run games better than the PS4? I shoulda listened to /v/ about PS4 having no games. All they have is the souls games, Rocket league, and a bunch of weeb games I don't give a shit about.
A good PC build is something you use every day for about $1000 and can last for years. Are people really that poor that this money is even an issue with PC gaming?
/v/ needs its own report button just for console war garbage
>>>logicalincrements.com
>>337813450
I'm not going to be able to spend over $250 on a new computer, just going to throw together the best I get right now. No video card
>>337813705
just save up m8, 250 is going to get you nowhere
>>337813450
I'm a broke college student. Max I'll spend is 500-600 tops.
>>337813934
Just get the PS4 neo. don't fall for the pc meme.
>>337813934
If you spend the 600 in the computer alone and just use your tv ad a monitor, youll be fine. Adk your local computer store (Microcenter is a big one) if they have any refurbished parts to squeeze some more value out.
>>337814243
I want to be able to mod the shit out of games. Especiallyfor lewd mods in Skyrim
>>337813271
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW
>>337813934
600 is plenty. Gimme a few minutes, let me see what I can put together...
>>337813934
>>337815580
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rP3Jzy
Aaand there you go.
Keep in mind there won't be much room for overclocking, but in that price range, base performance is a lot more important.
Also 4GB ram might not seem like a lot, but as long as you don't have a million programs open at once while playing games, it should be plenty for the 380X. If not, you can always grab another 4GB stick for like $15.
I'm also assuming you have a keyboard/mouse/monitor lying around.
>>337814537
Do you live in the U.S? You'll need a couple hundred more than 600 if you live in west Europe
375 bucks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77Wy2n-Hr7Y
Do any of you have friends that use computers? A lot of times the best bet is to pick up secondhand components from them. The last time I spent significant money on a PC was in 2003, and that was because I was building my first "custom" PC so there was a bit of e-peen going on there, and I spent less than $1100 on it all said and done. Was my mainline PC until 2008, and that time I lucked into a newer computer for basically free (my friend worked IT at a big company, and they had a lot of borked desktops being written off, and he gave me one, I had to provide a hard drive and video card). My current rig is random put together from 2010, last year had to get a new PSU and video card to revive it, but I basically only spent $200 on it total, and it runs basically any game I want to play decently (I'm not sure how well ArmA 3 or FO4 would do, but FO4 isn't that great anyway).
Usually with PCs, they have good longevity for their prices, and with most games you can either mod, tweak, or adjust your video settings to allow games to run smoother and look better with much less than "recommended specs" components. The worst thing with PCs for gaming-primary usage is that half the time video games nowadays are practically malware in their own right with the bullshit background DRM they pull because of "muh piracy" garbage.
>>337813271
When the PS4K comes out, none. PS4 Neo will play games at 4K 60 fps, leaving the PCucks crying in the dust AGAIN.
>>337814243
>PC meme
Jesus console kids are retarded these days
>>337816789
Also, just an example of the performance you should expect:
https://youtu.be/MIzDN6u9i0o?t=38
>>337817257
>4k 60 Fps
Do you realize how many video cards can actually do this? It wont happen fampai
>>337814243
console pleb confirmed
>>337816821
sure idiot because mid/eastern europe has lower prices rofl mao
>>337813271
PC has Rocket League too though. Just saying.
>>337817768
It will though, Sony always delivers.
>>337816789
Cool. I'll just have to save up and maybe play around with pc part picker.
>>337818116
Why didn't they deliver when they said PS4 would run games at 60 fps?
>>337817882
Never did any claims about eastern Europe
>>337818246
They didn't say that.
>keep PS4
>buy 250 bucks PC
now you can play most of worthwhile games
>>337813271
Always listen to the PC bros, anon. Sonyggers are just trying to get you caught up on that stupid "monthly fee to play online on shit hardware" scam because they're protecting their retarded investment. PC bros always try to free you from said bullshit fees. That's how you can tell who your real bros are and who's some asshole setting you up to get fucked with extra fees they don't even mention when they try to get you to buy shit.
PS4K has upscaled 4k, not true 4k, and i heard it will run 1080p 60fps minimum, bitch please my minimum is 1080p 150fps... Consoles are ok, if you're a peasant. but if u want power rather than shit buy a pc, and yeah we have thousands and thousands of games on the pc, so grab your shit and leave ps4
>>337813502
/v/ needs actual mods
>>337818384
Straight from the horse's mouth. Kaz Hirai himself said the PS4 would run most games at 60 fps.
>>337817330
>>337817773
If you can't spend more than 500-800 bucks, you probably are better off getting a console though.
>>337818572
But that console is able to do it, anon. It is up to devs whether they prefer fancier graphics or framerate.
>>337818459
I got friends who sub psn+ every year.
You can share subs up to 4 systems
It's a good time you saw the light, OP. Biggest game coming out is going to be Battlefield1. You don't want to be playing that with gamepad. Leave that "playing fps with a gamepad" bullshit to the fucking losers who don't know any better.
>>337818868
so if you have 4 "friends" who eat shit, you'd eat it too?
>>337818868
that's still a retarded loophole sony makes you jump through.
listen, i like consoles, and i have a ps4 instead of a gaming pc, but it's still fucked that sony charges for online just because the 360 made it acceptable to normies. there's no fucking excuse for it other than to make money.
>>337819047
They don't eat shit lol
I'm sure you got no friends
>>337813934
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nGPkvK
Here
>>337819103
>disposable income
I agree that psn+ kinda sucks but we just share our subs.. to each his own.
there is always a way.
>>337819213
It's a simple question, anon. I'll ask it again:
If you have 4 friends who eat shit, would you eat it too? Yes or no?
It's a very simple question. I don't see why you're having a hard time answering it. Fuck the importance you put on having friends, or how dumb you may be in real life that you constantly confuse "acquaintances" with "friends". I don't care about your lack of self confidence in real life, I'm asking you a very simple rhetorical question.
>>337818691
but youre stating that itll have both fancy graphics and framerates
with such a small incremental upgrade
>>337819573
true, and i know it's only a few dollars a month if you pay for a year yourself, but that's not what I'm complaining about. it's the principle of the matter, not the actual effect here. charging for a service just because a competitor did it and got away with it is a scummy business move and would still be even if it was only a penny a month.
>>337819896
Don't worry - the other anon is too stupid to understand the sort of raw hardware that is required to drive 4k at 60fps.
>>337819706
you got some issues m8
>>337819706
are you one of those reddit numales?
>>337820329
You're saying that if you went to visit them,and you found them all sitting on the floor in a circle around a bowl of shit, and they asked you to join them, you'd actually eat from the bowl of shit too just because they were doing it.
The one with issues, very serious ones at that, is you. I'll hate to be you the day they all get girlfriends and leave you behind wondering wtf happened to all your so called "friends". You sound like you're very young and naive.
>>337820662
lol chill down kid
>>337820662
Is everyone sharing a Netflix sub also eating from the bowl of shit too?
>>337813271
add about 50 bux for hdd 10 bux for mkb, get win 10 for free this is about the same or even better performance than a ps4. though desu you shouldnt go super cheap for your 1st build it's just a proof of concept
>>337821386
750ti = no need for external power?
sorry AMD user here. I'm looking for an AMD equivalent.
>>337821663
yeah the evga acx sc one looks to be the fastest and least offensive looking among the 750ti's the other ones like the asus have a 6 pin power connector afaik
>>337821376
Yes
>>337821376
even worse, they're taking turns eating from the bowl of shit. they can't even eat shit peacefully whenever they want
>>337821386
Holy shit, seriously? This pic isn't trolling?
So all I need is a case to put it all in?
>>337821992
Re-read the picture. It has a case included, anon.
>>337821992
it already has a case just needs hdd of your choice and a 10$ mkb up to you if u want to add stuff or have a different case in mind really just went for the cheapest here didnt even really check for sales or such
>>337821058
>kid
You think you're being funny by following your acquaintances into eating shit, like a fucking loser, but you're actually doing them a disservice.
I myself, like to follow my own path, then tell my friends about the resulting experience, then we can compare results and take the best path together or continue our separate ways. You? you're just a fucking fool who goes along with whatever shit-eating everyone else is doing because you're a follower, you're not a leader of people.
I upgrade my pc thinking I would get max setting 60fps with and I5 and a GTX760 I average 40 fps in almost every game with max setting. All my games pretty much look like a ps4 game but they run at 60fps instead. I don't think it was worth seeing as the only game I have played with max settings at 60+ fps have been mmorpgs and hearthstone.
>>337821992
yep same price as mine back in 2013 during the 270X era
just research bro
>>337813271
Logical increments fair tier is enough.
>but this is just falseflagging thread
>>337821992
I think all the build guides are slightly trolling by leaving off the cost of the OS at around +$100. Your average user will not have a random copy of Win7/Win10 just sitting around unused.
I get why it's always left off but it always feels like a slight bait and switch.
>>337821992
you can upgrade the PSU to 500w if you plan to upgrade in the future.
also case cooling fans... I guess some are included in the case. cheap china fans will do.
>>337822689
Are cooling master fans worth the price?
>>337822184
what games are you playing that you can't hit 60fps? though it's understandable since it's just a 760 but I'm pretty sure it looks far better than a ps4 aside from some very situational games ,you can also just tune down AA and shadows to get more fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OE2iI7OLh8
>>337818116
>hardware that can render 4k at 60FPS
>not $800 minimum
>>337822774
kinda pricey imo. I have 2 in my rig as exhaust and front intake (1 came with the case and 1 is free from a promo). still spins, works well :)
china fans are like half the price
>>337822774
I find that the best bang for ur buck fans are corsair AF120/140 dual packs if u want the best noctua nf-12's or industrial ppc's if u hate the color are the way to go, but really though nowadays almost any fan sold by the mainstream manufacturers are decent enough
>>337821386
This is good enough for me senpai
>>337822101
>>337822134
Sheeeeeit I'm about to get this.
>>337822203
I know building your own is cheaper but I don't know shit about choosing parts. I'm afraid of incompatibility and I don't even know how to choose a graphics card.
The last time I was shopping for a pc was 10+ years ago
>>337822774
my cooler master case is K350
kinda old... check that out m8
>>337823190
don't get seagate hdd's they're cheap for a reason wd's,hgst's and toshibas will serve you better aside from that it's a pretty solid low budget machine and u can just get a slightly better card eventually though I suspect the cpu is gonna be a bottle neck if u go with anything higher than midrange
>>337823069
>>337823091
Iwas using foxconn fans, they seem cheap and useful.
Threw air with a lot of force.
A single one kept the computer around 5-10 degrees cooler than without a fan.
Although here I don't have much trouble with heat since I don't overclock and the temperature doesn't rise more than 33°c/91°f
>>337823453
yeah just get the cheapest fans u can if you're on a budget no need for the more expensive branded shit if youre not doing anything excessive on your pc. also good cable management does wonders for your temps
>>337822609
>$100 for OS
>Windows 10 is 100% free
You're trolling.
>>337813271
my PS4 is a Destiny and Netflix machine.
The wait for the 1080 is unbearable. Witcher 3 in all its glory, BLOPS3 with 100+ fps, Overwatch and DOOM...fucking hell, why did my oldPC die now and not like two weeks from now...
Destinys April update is not enough...
>>337823765
I am in beaner country, so I don't know shit about cable management
How do I ask for it when I go buy stuff in the main city? those fags are usually fucking retards that don't know shit about technical terms, they just want to sell you trash.
>>337822609
win 10 is free for 1 year atm, if u really wan't a legit OS they're about 20-40 dollars over at reddit
>inb4 reddit
savings are savings
>>337821386
Top kek.
Even if you OC this GPU it won't even get xbox one level performance. Digital foundry just debunked this pc myth today with forza.
>>337823453
Or if you work at the office like me...
lol nigga steal some of those Delta fans on some broken pcs. HP and Toshiba cpus surely have 'em
GIBS ME DAT
>>337823982
>20-40 at reddit
Where to look out for this
>>337823974
cable management is just keeping your wires tidy, helps a lot with airflow. get some cable ties at ur hardware store they're really cheap and make ur pc innards look really sexy if done right
>>337813271
If you are concerned about the initial cost that much then buy afuckin ps4, whats stopping you?
PC is for enthusiasts, not for people who prioritize initial financial issues.
Regardless, whatever you spend more on pc you end up saving it on games one year later by buying cheaper games.
>>337823974
ZIP TIES
>switching from some games machine to nogames infected overpriced buggy software machine
>>337824007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iipDWbd6HNg
yes, yes it does. not really hard to overpower the current gen consoles
>>337824228
>>337824261
Alright, I'll be sure to find some and check it out.
I enjoy working on the pc and taking care of it as much as possible since I am here whole day.
>>337824119
https://www.reddit.com/r/microsoftsoftwareswap/comments/4jlkqs/h_windows_10_pro_enterprise_windows_781_pro/
they also sell other things
>inb4 reddit
again savings are savings
>>337824251
>pc
>buying games
>>337824228
Rate my cable management.
>>337824617
JUST/10 senpai
actually not that bad, just need to clean that dust though
>>337824617
Clean that shit you filthy pig
>>337824752
>>337824889
Is this okay?
>>337824548
be careful from buying in that subreddit, people that sell keys usualy deactivate them after a couple of months
best to use keysites like G2A or kinguin where you can try to get a refund
>>337825360
better, also I'd suggest not using even a microfiber cloth to wipe down components due to the risk of an ESD, I suggest either getting canned air or a datavac
>>337825565
Haha next you'll be telling me not to hold components by the circuitry.
>>337825565
ESD is a meme
They say you can cause ESd with a vacuum, but i have done it for a while and nothing has happened.
It is just a meme invented so you waste your money on compressed air.
>>337825832
ESD with a vac cleaner is not as common as ESD via touching especially if you wipe components down with a fabric, also I just use a datavac. that shit is awesome
>>337818868
but you can't play online at the same time
>>337825832
>It is just a meme invented so you waste your money on compressed air.
Do you really believe that? Do you honestly think that your anecdotal evidence really holds a candle to years of R&D?
>>337826771
The media hided stevia and sugar alternatives just to sell us stupid standard sugar with bleach
They also say milk is good for adults while it is the total opposite just for sales
I don't believe everything so easily anymore dood
>>337826921
>The media
Do you really think the media was actively involved in hiding such things? Or is it because the media is unwittingly reporting on the misinformation that the companies were dishing out to keep their sales going?
>>337826060
muh nigga
>>337827241
Not telling the truth is as bad as telling lies.
Anyways, hard to say if ESD is really a thing or not.
Maybe it is, but rare as fuck, or maybe components have improved that now it is not so much of an issue, the past components were really fragile.
>>337826921
This post made me realize that just because you're a skeptic, it doesn't make you any less of a dumbshit as the average American.
>>337827527
Except I am not murrikan.
>>337813271
Have fun playing endie shit and shitty "funny" simulators.
We;re going to miss you.
>>337827507
>Not telling the truth is as bad as telling lies.
What an oversimplification of a more complex scenario.
>Anyways, hard to say if ESD is really a thing or not.
Based on what, your anecdotal evidence?
>>337827683
The fact that the point of the post flew right over your head, and the only thing you had to say was "I am not murrikan" just proves you're pretty fucking stupid. Good job.
>>337828047
Well I don't see you showing me non anecdotal evidence of the opposite either. Go on and post some official research subsidized by a compressed air brand
>Technicians and researchers are never bought out to say things, honest
>>337817330
>console kids
>>337828253
http://www.lorentzcenter.nl/lc/web/2010/424/PROBLEMS/NXP/ESDreviewvinson98.pdf
Now thoroughly go fuck yourself.
>>337817882
>mid/eastern europe has lower prices
>rofl mao
i7 in eastern euroe ~420$
https://www.czc.cz/intel-core-i7-6700k/176320/produkt
i7 in USA roughly 350$
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80662i76700k
Parts are about the same price, but VAT is roughly 20% all across Europe besides Switzertaxhaven. Get fucked.
>>337828298
What's it like being an aspie not being able to recognize obvious sarcasm?
>>337828186
I am a fucking ignorant
What do you want from me
Do you have a fucking doctorate and years of researching or something?
We are in a fucking taiwanese board for fucks sake.
>>337813271
every good pc game has been ported to ps4 or xbone save your money anon
>>337828407
Then stop talking about shit you have NO IDEA about. You didn't even fucking use the simplest tool in the Internet: A search engine.
>>337828401
I didn't notice the poster above you said "western" and thought you were being a retard, now I see that you were merely being an asshole.
>>337828484
exactly
>>337822609
>>337823982
>2013 + 3
>not pirating your OS
>>337828594
>posts shovelware in an attempt to appeal to consoles
>steam reviews
>mattering at all
you're sad and pathetic, and trying to sit here rationalize the lack of exclusives
>>337828525
I knew what a ESD is, it is just that I saw shit isn't like th3ey paint it, so I don't trust everything I read as easily anymore.
You really can't blame me for that, motherfucker.
>>337828706
I pirate mine like anyone who isnt a total retard, but there are autists who keep on saying it costs 100$ and keep on adding it to the price of a build
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
Around $600
A $1000 one will be equal to the next generation console and probably last another generation even.
>>337828264
>someone actually draws this autistic shit
>>337828762
Not shovelware (though some of the games are pretty shitty and/or in early acccess). And I have found steam reviews to be more trustworthy than metacritic scores. Also PC has the greatest amount of exclusives by far, so I didn't understand what point you were trying to make.
>>337829165
That pic takes 15 mins at best to make
>>337828765
The problem is that you made a bold claim without the slightest bit of research. You could have just searched the web to see if it was all bullshit or not. And no, large corporations and their government slave don'tyethave complete and total control over the flow of information, as company-destroying leaks are still a thing.
>>337828762
well we do get more lewds than the ps4 ever will , also being an Idort automatically solves all problems if you REALLY want those exclusives
>>337829341
Alright, I concede to your points.
>>337829457
Fair enough.
>>337829008
already posted the vid of a 350-450 pc matching current gen consoles, 600 is enough to overpower them both which admittedly isnt that much of an accomplishment, the upcoming neo looks to be a much better investment than the current ps4 http://www.polygon.com/2016/4/18/11456634/ps4-neo-upgrade-hardware-specs-playstation-4-report as it at least looks like it should be able to maintain 1080p/60fps
Gaming Laptop OP. I got a i7-4710 with Gtx 850M for just under $400 USD.
All I had to buy was a $30 cooling pad and I can run games like fallout 4 on ultra at 40fps, DS3 on high/max 900p at 40fps. If you can, look for 850m with ddr5 memory instead and ull boost these numbers.
If you really want to get the most out of your PC, don't try to get one for the same price as a ps4. Saving up some extra money and starting with a higher end PC is much better in the long term.
>>337813271
i love how noone complains when theres a pcuck falseflagging, but when its a sony friend...
>MODS MODS MODS
fucking faggots...
>>337828762
why would the PC need exclusives, Any game that's not exclusive to a console is better played on PC.
>>337813271
>souls games, rocket league, and a bunch of weeb games I don't give a shit about
Are you sure you're talking about ps4? Because that sounds an awful lot like pc.
>>337828591
aww did he hwrt ywour wittle fweelwings anon?kill yourself retard
>>337829281
You're comparing apples to blowjobs. Saying pc has more exclusives is willfully ignorant because you're equating literal who indie devs with a/aa developers. There are thousands of developers I've never heard of who make a pc only game because they're too poor to release it anywhere else. A lot of the games you posted are literally one hit wonders where the devs don't make another game ever again. You essentially have the largest used toilet paper collection. It's indisputably larger and there are no metrics I can finagle with to suggest otherwise, but it's fucking used toilet paper.
Never mind the obvious problems with your list like dead multiplayer games such as hawken and nuclear dawn.
>>337830127
Most multiplatform games are not on pc. Multiplatform strictly means more than one platform, not "on pc". There are countless sony "exclusives" that are ps3/ps4/vita multiplatform that will never be ported to pc.
>>337813705
>no video card
>>337831401
Try reading my post before you reply to it.
>Any game that's not exclusive to a console is better played on PC
I never used the word multiplatform. You didn't even answer my question. -1/10 apply yourself next time.
>>337831826
Neck yourself mongoloid. By definition, a non exclusive game is multiplatform.
>>337831918
You still haven't answered my question. Apply yourself or go shitpost on /s4s/ bucko.
>>337818529
We need that setup back from April Fools
>>337813934
>I'm a broke college student.
>Max I'll spend is 500-600
The fuck? Nigga if you can spend 500 to 600 then you ain't fucking broke. Maybe a college student, but not a broke one.
>>337828484
PS4 is ok but being able to use mods and being restricted to a smaller amount of games makes me want a PC
>>337813450
>$1000
i laugh.
with approximately $500-600 you get something better than a PS4 and it will be good for at least 4-5 years.
