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If you disagree you're wrong and you should feel bad.

Best overall
>FFXII

Best gameplay
>FFX-2

Best story
>FFIV

Best characters
>FFIX

Best music
>FFX

Most meh
>FFVIII

Worst overall
>FFXIII

Worst gameplay
>FFXIII

Worst story
>FFX-2

Worst characters
>FFX-2

Worst music
>FFX-2
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>>337773562
shit fucking taste op
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>>337773756
i second that anon. ou have to keep your standards up op.
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>XIII is bad
When will this meme end? It is one of the best.
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Dog shit: FFIII

Grinding and a retarded last dungeon where if you die you lose a good hour of progress
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>>337773562
>Best overall
>FFXII
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>>337773562
I would argue 13 had the worst story
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>>337773562
Change everything "worst" to FF9 and "Best Characters" to FF12.
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>>337773562
You know I can't disagree with anything but best overall. That's completely subjective based upon what you're looking for in a game. 9/10 post.
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>>337773562
I disagree with everything except for Best overall and Worst overall lol. XII is rad as fuck and XIII blows.
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FFXIII is on the same tier as FF2, it's a good game but it's fatally flawed in many ways
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>>337775883
How can it be a good game if it's fatally flawed?
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>>337775883
The things that killed XIII for me were the lack of switching party members and the way battles work. Seriously, only controlling one party member and having the game end when the party leader dies is just fucking retarded.
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>>337775940
I guess I should have said "Still an enjoyable game" instead of "still a good game"
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>>337775940
>being this retarded
kek
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>>337773562
>Best overall
>>FFXII
Passable.

>Best gameplay
>>FFX-2
No. It's horribly unbalanced.

>Best story
>>FFIV
The one where everyone commits suicide, but doesn't actually? You're a retard.

>Best characters
>>FFIX
They're literally all stereotypes. I actually think Zidane is the worst protagonist in the series.

>Best music
>>FFX
Okay.

>Most meh
>>FFVIII
No. Triple Triad was the shit, and the overall atmosphere was god tier.

>Worst overall
>>FFXIII
>Worst gameplay
>>FFXIII
I guess. This isn't exactly a hot opinion.

>Worst story
>>FFX-2
>Worst characters
>>FFX-2
>Worst music
>>FFX-2
No shit, idiot.
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>It's a "My favorite final fantasy is the best final fantasy" episode
>Might as well fit in
As the years passed, I realized that the only Final Fantasy I like is VIII. Yes, fight me. It's a game with problems that were overly exagerated, a very simple plot that only retards could fail to comprehend and an incredibly well characterized main character that has been reduced to a "emo" by people that are unable to fucking read.
>Hurr, muh 30 hours spent assimilating magic
It's not my fault if you are retarded.

Also, best soundtrack ever composed by Uematsu together with IX


Also, XIII was better than people like to admit, combat is great. XIII-2 is overrated and ruined the pace of the combat by having all monsters so easy. Lightning Returns is incredibly fun.
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Nice list OP but I think you forgot one thing:

Absolutely Revolutionary.
Which would be, of course, Final Fantasy XV.

Mark my fucking word, 30th of September, GOAT.
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>>337773562
The best Final Fantasy is Final Fantasy Tactics.
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>>337773562
And most importantly:
>best girl
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>>337773562
Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill.
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>>337776414
>not Aeris, my teenage neckbeard virgin waifu
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>>337776328
>FF8
>The Best way to play the game is to literally run from every fight

It's a little more than "A game with problems", every system in the game is complete garbage
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>>337776378
Fans will hate it with memespeak (A friend of mine who literally knows nothing of it is already hating on it every time he sees a picture by just saying 'Well, they made a team full of pretty boys, of course it sucks'), exactly like they did hate XII.

Final Fantasy is a very transformative series that took lots of risks. Too bad that fans don't want good games, they want the same old shit.
>Muh turn-based combat
>Muh bahamut
>Muh LOVE STORY
>Muh UEMATSU
>Muh "Even Sakaguchi said IX is the best"
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>>337776565
>>Muh turn-based combat
Series hasn't been turn-based since III dumbass.
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>>337776551
Fucking this.
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>>337776551
And not a single one of those sistems impact the enjoyment of the game, see what I care.
You can play it by breaking or not breaking the game. And stop the meme that levelling makes the game harder, it makes no difference if you junction properly. "Hurr, I escaped from every single battle ever, why don't I have material to craft? Now I need to assimilate magic for hours, what a fucking game!"
I fucking prefer a system like the junctioning with a broken ass cardgame completely destroying the balancing of the crafting but that at least has almost zero assles when it comes to powering up your characters instead of pretentiously deep systems like the Sphereography or the fucking Licence board.

VIII is fucking great fun.
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For someone playing older FFs for the first time, is there a reason to not use a guide?
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>>337776056

Please calm down underaged
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>>337776649
Fuck you, you know what I meant.
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>>337776649
>FFX
>not turn-based
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>>337776850
>I want someone else to play my games for me
ok
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>>337776827
>VIII is fucking great fun.
If you're a weeb virgin, maybe it could be.
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>>337773562
i like the first one's remake on psp a lot along with crisis core

when is the u.s. getting the 3ds remake?
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>>337776850
Same reason as any other game you filthy casual.
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>>337773562
Dude X-2 had some pretty fucking good music, the main menu theme memories of light waves or whatever is amazing.
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>>337776920
That one doesn't count because it has the worst combat next to XIII
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>>337776850
No. Final Fantasy is one of the worst offenders in the "JRPG criptic stuff you have no way to know and that will fuck you over for no reason".
>Objects that can only be obtained once in the entire game in an insanely small timeframe between triggers
>Random shit like "Hey, give some money to this npc. You can decide how much and you have no way to know if it's useful or how much you should give. Or if it's a trap"
>Inane shit like the cord jumping minigame in IX or lightning dodging in X
Seriously, look up the fucking Zodiac Spear and laugh.
>>337776958
>Resorting to ad hominems
Yep. I will still keep having fun with best Final Fantasy. But you can have fun with whatever makes you feel mature.
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DO NOT REPLY TO THE OBVIOUS BAIT OP

POST YOUR FFI PARTY INSTEAD

>Monk, White Mage, Black Mage, Red Mage
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>>337777061
>XIII
>Bad Combat
XIII has incredible combat, but bad monster/encounter design. buffs, Debuffs and overall strategy count far, far more than micromanaging fire, fira or firaga each turn and this shows especially well when doing a low level run when you can use an amazing array of good tactics and mechanics.
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>>337777129
When you fuck off back to plebbit please take your muh logical fallacy shit with you. Your fedora too.
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>>337777238
See, you can tell me to fuck off to reddig whenever you want but this doesn't change the fact that's easier to attack me rather than attacking my points.
>Le fedora meme
>Le reddit meme
>Logical fallacies only work on reddit, on 4chan everything goes
Well jee, and you fight like a cow, ok?
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>>337777129
He was asking about the older FFs you mongoloid. Obviously the newer ones were designed to sell strategy guides, but the 8/16 bit ones are perfectly understandable.
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>>337773562
Favorites - 4, 5, 7, X, Tactics
Also good - 6, 9, MQ
OK - 1, 8, 12
No thanks - The rest

Played the whole series up through X-2 while I was unemployed awhile back and it really solidified my opinions about them. I kind of hope they follow through on a Vita port of 12; I never finished the Hunts and it'd be a good excuse to revisit it.
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>>337777306
>Obviously the newer ones were designed to sell strategy guides, but the 8/16 bit ones are perfectly understandable.
>There were no guides BACK IN THE DAYS
Muh nintendo power
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>>337777217
>incredible combat
>the game literally plays itself even more than XII with gambits on
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>>337777305
Yes that shit has no place here
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>>337777369
You're a mongoloid, and you didn't even truly engage my argument.
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>>337777313
>MQ

Nigger what? Other than that mostly solid although I'd put 6 up top.
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>>337777395
>Game plays itself
I don't know man, that's a nice meme. "Autoattack" is just like pressing attack, and if you only do that you will lose, unless you are overlevelled as fuck.
Changing paradigms skillfully, chaining combos and winning at low level is where it's at and the combat really shines then.
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>>337777523
I was mainly talking about the shitty ai-controlled party members.
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>>337777550
What's wrong with them? They have a really good AI.

I get shivers when I start thinking about Ni no Kuni. Fucking ptsd.
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If 7 7's get, Tactics is best Final Fantasy
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Original is best.
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>>337773562
>all of this wrong in a single post
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>>337777129
Anyone who wants to do a 100% playthrough on their first go instead of experiencing that shit blind first is an autistic retard and should kill themselves. Shit like the jump rope and other missable key items in IX literally don't matter unless you're an autistic completionist.
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>>337776495
give the $%#*$% a break
let them think they're relevant every now and then.
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>>337773562
>Best characters
>>FFIX
>Best music
>>FFX
Ooh, so close to a perfect score!
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>>337777981
What would you say is the best music then?
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>>337777515
I understand MQ was Square's condescending way to get Westerners into RPGs, but it's a fun little game in spite of that. There's also something relaxing about an RPG you can finish in an afternoon.

Now that I've found my DS flashcart again, It might be time for me to give the sound-fixed GBA port of 6 a run.
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>>337773562
Best overall
>FFVII

Best gameplay
>FFX-2

Best story
>FFIV

Best characters
>FFX

Best music
>FFXIII

Most meh
>FFIII

Worst overall
>FFXIII

Worst gameplay
>FFVIII

Worst story
>FFXII

Worst characters
>FFIX

Worst music
>FFVI
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>>337778307
>VII is best overall
Not even in top 5.
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>>337778361
What's your best?
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>>337778564
XII, IX, IV, VI, XIV
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>>337778659
> XIV
How old are you, 12?
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>>337778361
Notice that VII doesn't score high in any one area. But as a sum of its parts it comes out on top.
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>>337778719
>le mmos are inherently bad meme
How old are you, 8?
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>>337778758
9, actually
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>>337775265
While its true that "XIII is bad" is a meme, its far from the best.
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>>337779074
that was never a meme
you disagreeing with everyone and calling their opinion a meme is in fact a meme.
Though 13 for a fact is bad.
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>>337779867
Your mom was for a fact bad when I came in her loose cunt.
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>>337780054
and there it is
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>>337773562
>Best overall
>FFXII

Opinion discarded.
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>>337779867
way too many like the game for "XIII is bad" to not be a meme
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>>337780176
never thought as that the best. Vaan was just another young MC nothing special.
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>>337773562
>No XI
>listing sequels
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>>337780198
There is a whole lot more that hate it.
You are the minority.
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>>337773562
Wrong
Wrong
Wrong
Wrong
Wrong
Alright
ABSOLUTELY WRONG (FF13 meme)
ABSOLUTELY WRONG (FF13 meme)
Wrong
Wrong
Wrong
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>>337780309
I think it's due to the fact multiplayer was a major part of the game play.
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>>337780692
>le FF13 is actually good meme
ebin :^)
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>>337781421
>le FF13 is really bad meme
ecrisdghdfjghfn :^S
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>>337781528
>hating what I like is a meme
r8b8m8
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>>337781619
kys
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>>337781903
I be dissin' yo fly gurl
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fuck you faggots XIII was good
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>>337782080
how was it good then?
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>>337782130
Seriously, THIS. I constantly see faggots spouting shit about how it's actually good or how it "gets good 20 hours in." But I never see ANY of them actually explaining HOW or WHY it's good. Fucking faggots, I tell you.
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>>337782130
>>337782953
The battle system was good and everything else was acceptable. It doesn't get good 20 hours in: it's good from the start but it gets better at that point.
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>>337783867
The battle system was clever if you put the time into it, which I did.

The problem was that putting in no effort and just using the defaults stance often led to the same if not faster results.
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>>337783995
>same if not faster
But that's simply wrong. Sure you may be able to stumble your way through a boss fight in 30 minutes if you have no clue what you're doing but if you actually know how the system works, bosses don't drag on forever like shitters claim they do. The rating system is an excellent indicator of whether you suck or not, but retards assume the reason they get 0 star ratings is because that's the way it's meant to be and not because they're terrible at the game. I've seen far too many people complain about fights taking too long to believe that not learning the system is as effective as actually using appropriate paradigms for each situation.
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>>337783867
the battle system was awful, stagger system was only implemented to make the battles last longer so you could use magic.
The story was awful, and don't give me that bullshit it was a character driven story. Any story needs exposition and linking shit together and world building. Leaving that job to a Data Logue in the menu is lazy and puts it on parkers of bad fanfiction.
The lack of exploration destroys the whole fucking point of role playing. Hell you don't even get to go to shops. It was a fucking mess.
people only like it because of graphics and design and even the design was terrible.
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>>337786391
>on parkers
on par
fucking auto correct.
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>>337786391
The battle system is good and your complaint about the stagger system is nonsensical garbage. Stagger isn't some tacked on mechanic like you're implying: it's the central mechanic of the entire battle system.

The story isn't great, but unless you're a retard who needs everything explicitly spelled out to them, it's not particularly hard to follow without ever touching the data logs. The stuff in the data logs is just just fluff - all the relevant story elements are easy enough to piece together from the cutscenes. The amount of people who bitch about terms like l'cie and fal'cie not being explicitly explained is staggering: it takes an hour or two at most to get the basic idea of what all the terms mean if you pay any attention at all.

I don't like the hallways, but the main draw of the game for me is the battle system.

And fuck you, you can't tell me why I like something you presumptuous piece of shit.
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>>337780890
And?
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>>337786792
First off you are a retard who thinks that the battle system was any good.
All you had to do was default and got an excellent score. So stop spouting your bullshit.
Speaking of spouting bull shit, you have no idea a proper story. You have no idea what was relevant because no one knew what the fuck was going on and all it took was one character asking another character a question about the world. that's it, but no they had to talk about their feelings. When you write anything especially a fucking character driven story uou have to have a who what and where. At least those three, Who explains the character in front of you the where explains (get this) where they are and how the world affects them, the what explains how the character and the world is going through. Through out the fucking game they make refrences of made up words that no explination, you are a retard for just eating it up and not asking questions like a fucking sheep. Spoon feeding is one thing but just making shit up and with a wierd ass design and having nothing to compare it too is just pretentious and makes the writer look like a cock sucker who can't write.
If you have to explain shit outside your story CONSTANTLY then you fucked up and need to do a rewrite.
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>>337787003
that's why it was taken out of the listing me thinks other than that I have no idea
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>>337773562
>best music
>FFX
X has some really good standout tracks, but it pales in comparison to FFVIII's soundtrack.
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>>337787794
>you are a retard for just eating it up and not asking questions like a fucking sheep
When did I ever say I did that? It makes no sense for any of the characters to ask each other what the fuck a fal'cie is because everyone already knows. On the other hand, because I'm not a retard, I was able to figure out what it meant pretty quickly after characters had talked about them for a while and encountering a few during the story. Of course I wanted to know what the terms meant when characters started throwing them around and that's why I actually paid attention to what they were saying and figure it out because I'm not a brainless faggot who needs everything spelled out to me. If you don't understand the basic concepts of XIII by the time the party turn into l'cie, you haven't been paying attention or you're a literal fucking retard. There's a lot wrong with XIII's story, but lack of exposition is not one of those things.
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>>337776551
Are you suggesting FVIII is difficult at any level? It's still a Final Fantasy game.
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>>337787851
OP here, I didn't put XI in because I never played it.
I do play XIV from time to time though, I quite like it but it didn't really win any of the lists.
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FFXII is the last good FF
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>>337788528
Agreed, although XV is shaping up to be a good one too.
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>>337788342
You're saying that this version of FF4 was easy? I consider FF4DS and FF5 as hardest FF games of all time, but then again only played FF1-10 so no clue how good/hard/whatever FF12 and FF13 and the extra story versions are
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>>337788148
you are so full of shit, the whole point of characters talking to each other about this stuff is a part of fucking world building you putz. No one would know anything with out going into the fucking data logues. The game required you to check at least once, so don't give me that bullshit you knew by paying attention, I've played the game all the through it exposition was garbage, and you obviously do need things spelled out for you since you used the data logue in the first place. The entire time the main game doesn't give explination, and yes when vanillie comes along with Sahz that wad the perfect time to ask fucking questions, he'll you don't even know you are in a fucking ball floating in the sky and there is a larger planet below, through out the game the scenery changes to some thing completely different you have no fucking Idea where you are. There is no refrence to the main story about very important things, you don't explain a made up word with another fucking made up word. Again you're full of shit.
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>>337788693
FF12 isn't particularly difficult for the most part but it has some moments that will make you want to throw your controller, like Yiazmat, who takes a minimum of three (THREE) hours to kill.
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>>337773562
>liked ATB
>thinks his oppinion matters
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>>337789081
Tell me then, what exactly is wrong with ATB?
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>>337788829
I have never touched the fucking data log retard. I'm sorry you're so fucking dumb you need literally everything spelled out to you. Maybe you should commit suicide and so there's no risk of your retarded ass genes getting passed on (though the odds are already astronomically low, better safe than sorry).
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>>337789287
you are fucking full of it and I bet you didn't even know what was going on and what they were talking about. You are lying through your teeth and you know it.
The game was shit, story was fanfiction garbage that was utter nonsense. Hell every final fantasy before 13 had better exposition with in the first minute of the fucking game.
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>>337789617
>you're not as retarded as I am so you must be lying!
just kill yourself already. the world would be a better place
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>>337773562
FFXIII is bad, but XIII-3 aka LR is glorious.
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>>337773562
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>>337789703
>i got no proper response tell him to kill himself
Always the proper responce when you have nothing, go read some books and get educated on proper literature.
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>>337778307
>Best gameplay
>>FFX-2
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>>337789885
at leas 13-2 did a better job at explaining what wad going on but still it wasn't much of a step.
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>>337790047
was*
fuck this auto correct it doesn't even do it right! I must have clicked ok on typos on accident.
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>>337790016
It's true. The battle system is fun, it's tense, the dress sphere system is a good addition. The only issue is that the rest of the game makes it fucking unbearable.
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>>337789975
Funny, if you'd ever actually read literature you'd known that good writing (which I'm not saying FFXIII is) doesn't beat you over the head with exposition but actually requires you to use your fucking head every once in a while.
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>Final Fantasy XII use the ADB for the 1st time
>no other FF use it
>Xenoblade use it
what went wrong?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM3k18G5_1g
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>>337790696
No other games have gotten a chance to use it yet. I'll bet you the next game will use it. Just watch.
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>>337790740
cute optimism :^)
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>>337790331
it's hilarious that you tell others to use their heads when yours is so far up your own ass. I already explained basic literature to you and to even think that 13 is passable shows your brainpower is that of a down syndrome child.
Because if you weren't then you would notice I never said constant exposition. I said one moment any where I even point out how other fucking final fantasys did it properly.
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FFXIV music is criminally underrated. Fucking shits, listen some and fall in love.
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>>337791025
Seriously, the titan theme in that game is one of the best songs in the series.
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>>337773562
>Best overall
>FFXII

patrician taste
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>>337790928
it's whether Action gameplay like XV or ADB (evolved or not) for Open world RPG. I can't see it work otherwise.

ATB can't work well with this, keep it for 3DS game like Brave
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>>337790961
Exposition doesn't need to be blatant, faggot. There's enough context in XIII to piece together all the terminology on your own if you aren't clinically retarded.
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>>337791138
Fuuuuuuuck titan, but yeah it was good, hard as fuck hard mode, took forever to amass a party that would even be effective.
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>>337773562
>Best story
>FFIV

Go back and play the game, take off your rose-tinted glasses, and pay attention this time.

The story is fucking awful.
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Only counting mainline titles?

Best overall
>FF XII IZJS

Best gameplay
>FF XIII-2/X-2

Best story
>FF XII IZJS

Best characters
>FF VI

Best music
>FF VII

Most meh
>FF III

Worst overall
>FF II

Worst gameplay
>FF II

Worst story
>FF I

Worst characters
>FF I

Worst music
>FF I
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>>337791138
Some of my favorites...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLRcuojE7Pc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noJiH8HLZw4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4OQDvRBKcE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cZHfOs2XOc

And of course Titan final phase
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JevOJeRzIk
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>>337788342
It definitely can be, especially for players ignorant of the systems in place

It does not inform players that behavior drilled into them for the last 7 games is going to make the game more difficult.
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>>337791268
No there wasn't you fucking moron, they threw in to the story expecting you to know what they were fucking about and what you were looking at. Hell you can even do this "that the pulse fal'cie?" "I think so our god doesn't look like that."
Done, that was it. Even then they could have used real words to hint what they are, know one knows what the fal'cie are bit they've been here longer than any of us.
There shit like that, instead you got a floating failed art student sculpture and not even placed in the center of the fucking shot. Trying to be mysterious all the time to keep you interested only goes so far to a point it's not even worth solving when you keeping adding shit that have no actual meaning. The story tries to sound complicated but ends up being the fucking same thing with made up words to make it sound original.
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>>337791787
>being this much of a retard

The entire game is piss easy to follow without the datalog if you pay attention.

Go cry about being an idiot who can't handle an in media res opening on reddit.
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>>337791787
It absolutely does, retard. Maybe you should go watch Teletubbies or something since that seems to be the kind of storytelling that's more on your level. There are plenty of reasons to dislike XIII's story, but you chose the one that just makes you look like a retard. Good job.
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There was literally nothing wrong with FFXIII other than going multiplatform moved the open world to the end of the game.
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>>337791690
But it never was as hard for me as buffed Golbez and some other buffed fights. in FF4DS
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>>337791972
Tbh the villain was also shit.

I liked the rest though.
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>>337791268
>>337791787
or even better go deeper meaning of what fal'cie were, a god machine? a mutant? fuck they could even talk about monsters that would explain the world better. They don't, they go on about what's our focus, hey look at pretty plant, what is our focus, monster kill it, what'd our focus again? it was like the story was written for ADHD kids.
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>>337791494
>Best story
>FF XII IZJS
You lost me there. It had the best gameplay though. (XV is best now)
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>>337791972
>going multiplatform moved the open world to the end of the game
I'm sorry, but what? What the fuck are you even talking about?
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>>337791787

>I didn't read anything in the game and it's the games fault.

Okay
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>>337792073
>all this deflecting
None of that has anything to do with you being too retarded to understand simple concepts without someone explicitly explaining them to you.
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>>337791934
it may take you a while to realism it, it never does until the very fuck last of the game and even then uses more made up words.
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>>337792073
The only one who seems to have ADHD is you, anon.

The fal'Cie have their role explained pretty clearly early on, and their origin is deliberately a secret due to its implications for Cocoon - which you'd know, if you ever paid attention.
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>>337773562

Disgusting taste, FF6 has the best characters and is the best overall.
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>>337792125

Gran Pulse was originally available from the start. They moved it to the end to account for being multidisc in order to avoid compressing data and having long load screens along with shit graphics and sound.

It's also why some of the stones are so easy that you can get 5 stars just by doing one round of auto-battle. They were meant for early in.
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>>337792185
It may take you a while to realize it, but the reason it took you that long to understand what was happening is because you're legitimately braindead.
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>>337792151
it's the designers fault for not actually putting important info into the main story instead forcing you to read data logues to tell you who and what and where. If you knew how to write a story you would know you don't write a fucking main scenario and then have something on the side to explain what you just said. It's like the developer forgot to explain anything because he was so excited to tell his shitty character story.
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>>337792404
>it's the designers fault for not actually putting important info into the main story instead forcing you to read data logues to tell you who and what and where

Never happens
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>>337792046
And that justifies FF8's systems being poorly designed how exactly?
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>>337792404

If you couldn't figure out the main factors from the opening scene then you need to seek help.
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>>337792154
uh yeah it does when you make up beings that have made up names that are molded into UNRECOGNIZABLE thing and expect the player to know what's going on.
>>337792309
see you have no real follow up you just to the insults because you got no case.
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>>337773562
IV is my favourite overall
I even like its sequels, though Interlude to a lesser degree
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I'm convinced the people who bitch about XIII being hard to understand were literally children when it came out.

Nobody under the age of 14 should have found it hard to follow.
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>>337792615
I have nothing else to do than call you a retard because you don't actually listen to my arguments or you're too dumb to understand them. Go play Hello Kitty Adventure Island and shut the fuck up.
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>>337792492
it does, you problem too focused on pretty graphics to care
>>337792581
oh yeah I got it, it was a rip off of 7 begining only the soldiers were on the train. Unlike 13, 7 actually mentions what's going on where they are and what the fuck they are doing.
in 13 hey let's free people are being sacrificed... right? oh well I'll put in the data logue because it's far easier to add some extra lines to explain what the fuck our actual goal is. Even then retards will eat this shit up anyways because it's final fatasy.
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>>337792735
see you got nothing and you're getting angry over nothing. I don't give a shit, you can like 13, but it was utter shit, which is why so many people sent their copy back.
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What's up with all the Final Fantasy threads today? Are marketers out in force for some reason?
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>>337793038
You don't need to market Final Fantasy in the current decade
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>>337793038
there was an ign thing and people are throwing up their lists.
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>>337792916

>see character turned into a crystal
>outright stated that it was because of the ll'cie
>group sets out for revenge
>group gets branded
>group ignores mission and decides to just murder the ll'cie
>all while being hunted because people fear the fal'cie because they are told they are dangerous.

This is not a complicated story, Anon.
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>>337792916
>actually mentions what's going on where they are and what the fuck they are doing.
You mean how like 13 explains it's a purge, they're trying to save Serah and the civilians, and that they're being taken to Pulse? All in the actual game itself?

You're literally proving you didn't fucking pay attention you mong
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>Best Story FF4
>"There's a whole other set of crystals we didn't tell you about in the underworld!"
>"The one behind it all is... some guy from the moon! Whatever, just kill him."
>AND THEY ALL LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER. LETS GO DANCE IN SOME FOUNTAINS!
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>>337792994
ok, as long as we both agree that you're a retard
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>>337793181
you only see character turn in to a crystal way after the intro, use a made up word to from another made up word to revenge on thing, what thing? I get revenge, bur usually there is something to get revenge on. Then while be hunted through where ever the fuck you are they talk about useless shit instead where they are and how they got there, and while this happens we get more useless character progression.
I never said it was a complicated story I said it tries to be. By using made up words and using little to no exposition.

>>337793185
they never mention where or what pulse was, purge of what? random people? you wouldn't know that if you don't look in the data logue.
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>>337793156
I actually made this thread because of the recent release of X/X-2, I didn't see the IGN thing until after I made the thread.
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>>337793692
what ever keeps you sucking your head up your own asshole pal
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>>337793921
>not knowing what a fucking purge is


Holy shit, you ARE retarded.
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>>337793997
Say the magic words anon: "I'm a retard who can't understand simple concepts unless someone spells them out to me"
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>>337794094
purge of what? of random people? it's in the details you retard it might be hard things similar to Spanish inquisition had reason for purging.
duh they are purgering
why
I dunno it's sounds cool I guess
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>>337794226
This much projecting over the shit ties Final fantasy must be wearing you down.
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>>337793156
Is IGfuckingN really that strong an influence?

>>337793123
I agree, but that doesn't stop the marketers from trying anyway.
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>>337794389
Say it anon: "I'm a retard"
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>>337794476
well enough to piss off v but it doesn't take that much.
>>337794496
>projecting this much
though I do thank you for keeping entertained during work, work here is dull with nothing to do but see you sperg out.
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>>337794663
Saaaay it anon: "I'm a R-E-T-A-R-D"
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>>337794841
keep going anon eventually you'll be banned for spam, just a day or 3 take a vacation, read book.
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>>337793921

She turns into a crystal relatively quick.

Why does it matter that the names for fantasy concepts are made up? They're not making up verbs. They're making up proper nouns. That's like being mad that your name isn't Chair.
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>>337794935
>read a book
Funny coming from you. Now say it anon. Everyone else already knows" now you just need to accept it.
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>>337773562
>best gameplay
>best story
>best characters
>most meh
>worst overall
>worst gameplay
I know it's your opinion and all but these are all retarded
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You've got shit taste because you think IV is the best of anything

I'm at least going to admit I've only played I-VII and did not like VII.

Best overall
>FFVI

Best gameplay
>FFV

Best story
>FFVI

Best characters
>FFVI

Best music
>FFVI

Most meh
>FFVII

Worst overall
>FFII

Worst gameplay
>FFII

Worst story
>FFVII

Worst characters
>FFVII

Worst music
>FFI
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>>337794287

Purging people of Pulse. They're trying to remove anyone that could become a fal'cie. This is all explained relatively early in.

Pulse and Cocoon were eatablished early in as essentially being nations. You don't need yo know any more than that right away, but there are images of Cocoon that show what it looks like.
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>>337794935

>guy that couldn't be bothered to read a few lines of text here and there in a game telling other people to read a book
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>his favorite game in the series is post-XII action RPG faggotry
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>>337795239
l'cie anon, not fal'cie. Dont give this autist any opportunity to pounce at you with "hurr, see you don't understand it either!"
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none of the FF games are good.
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>>337795415
Kind of like none of your brain cells are functional
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>>337795358
This thread would be more interesting if we turned it into a Stig thread.

>Some say he knows only three facts about ducks, and they are all wrong
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>>337795558
Sure, but only if they're vidya related.
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Best overall
>Final Fantasy Tactics

Best gameplay
>Final Fantasy Tactics

Best story
>Final Fantasy Tactics

Best characters
>Final Fantasy Tactics

Best music
>Final Fantasy Tactics

Most meh


Worst overall


Worst gameplay
>FFII

Worst story


Worst music
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>>337795558
top gear is for mouth breathing morons so it fits well in a final fantasy thread.
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>>337795063
the issue is not just the name but not showing what they are talking about or even describing what they are talking about, made up names is fine only when you put it context. Like let's say final fatasy 7. They use materia and mako right? they immediately explain what it is how to use and what it means to those around with a few simple lines of dialogue. My problem is that in 13 they don't do that and just give you side reading instead of being good writers and pointing out in the main story. Another example star wars. Luke and obiwan, are about to get a pilot and quickly explain the bar they go into is filled with the worst scum of the galaxy in just 1 simple sentence. In 13 they don't bother to do that and expect you to do homework on their made up words instead of saying "hey that God branded me and my sister was chosen by the opposing god." What 13 does is take that all away which actually aids in character development because this shows how knowledgeable this character is on their own world. But we have everyone running around with their heads cut off till they magically meet up again. It was almost insulting to even watch that tripe.
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Hella fucking epic
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/v/ has already spoken on this matter.
Anyone that doesn't know this is an ultra newfag.
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>>337795239
hope and his mom weren't from pulse. also they never explained until you landed on pulse that you were on two separate planets. Surprise right, well just for you the player, everyone in the game knew already, except for the player who the game was made for, so where is the surprise when all characters knew already?
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>It's another "my ranking of a dead franchise is better than yours!" thread
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>>337795945
I miss bracketfag
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>>337795945
>popularity tournaments
Bad GameFAQs, bad!
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>>337796240
The /v/ brackets have been going on here for 3 years now.
They've been on a break for a while now,, but they're made by /v/ for /v/
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>>337795945
>XII losing to fucking X of all things
has there ever been so much shit taste in one image?
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>>337795945
>no FF Tactics
Into trash it goes
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>>337796813
>shit game loses to a good game
I fail to see the problem
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>>337776850
Only XIV fags use guides.
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>>337796009

But they didn't know what Gran Pulse was like.
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>>337796813
>>337797120
Fuck, thought it was the other way around. Fuck X, XII is where it's at
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>>337796958
I recently started playing that and golly there is a lot of waiting around to inherit skills from those crystals. Is there a better way to boost BP?
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>>337796958
Mainline titles only. Make a spinoff bracket if you want.
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Just started playing ff7, is there anything i should know to do/not do right away?
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>>337797341
the pink chick dies
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>>337797341
Attack while it's tail is up!
It's gonna counter attack with its laser!
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>>337797295
FFT is a mainline title. FF tactics advance and A2 are spinoff.

>>337797232
depends on the enemy level. Try going on quick-battle and set the opponent to a higher lvl than you are
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>>337797546
>doesn't have a number in the title
>not a spinoff
FFTA and A2 may be spinoffs of FFT, but that doesn't make FFT a mainline title.
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>>337797452
Thats good advice though. It builds up your limit gauge fast so you get to unlock your second limit
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>>337797695
The closer you'll be to UNGARMAX
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as a guy who hasnt beaten any FF game, which one should i start with?

i was thinking about playing all of them but are there any i should consider skipping?
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>>337797895
Start with V
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>>337797161
they mention the world below, that could be it was underground, plus they two people from pulse in their party already. they don't mention what pulse even is either a country or a planet or anything, even before you get to pulse you are wandering cacoon but each area is radically different you think you ain't in Kansas anymore. The point is this, you don't know anything other than words that are thrown around and you have to go along the ride, things pass by with no explination that are important to the story already being told, but fuck it let's toss it the data logue there is drama to get to! The entire time you play this game all the characters already know some key elements to the story that the player doesn't and the developers think you should know already before you pick up the controled or back story is completely irrelevant and you should just listen to then ramble on with made up words in hopes you figure it out. If the story was so good then why would you need a Data Logue discussing key plot points that weren't mentioned? They knew there was a grand pulse, they knew they were on it when they got there, the problem is the player was left in the dark because the devs. didn't feel like adding a few exralines.
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>FFXI anniversary
it gets a rerun on mobile.
>FFXII anniversary
Who fukin' care?
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>>337798140

I don't know why I expect someone with such poor grammar to be able to understand lore or settings.
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>>337796323
And yet, they embody the spectre of GameFAQs beyond compare.
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>>337800229
There's been nowhere near as much anal anguish over them to make that much of a comparison. They were more akin to a census rather than a poll with the hype of an election to determine what is better.
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>>337797895
Play in release order.
Use shields in 2 instead of grinding.
8 is more about proper junctioning than anything. If you have some semblance of skill then the level you're at doesn't matter.
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>>337800493
I'd have leaned towards agreeing with this for the sort of poll where Launchpad McQuack won. But this is purely because it demonstrates /v/ not taking the format seriously. Whereas you can't say there's a joke to >>337795945.
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