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WE DID IT! VANILLA SERVERS CONFIRMED
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WE DID IT!

VANILLA SERVERS CONFIRMED
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>>337713365
>implying this confirms anything
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>>337713365
>we have a meeting scheduled
>it is super secret we will let you know whats up
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what are you rolling bros?? nelf druid master race here
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>>337713365
Stop false flagging to get a rise out of people
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>>337714229
Undead rogue to take me back to those edgy good old days
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>>337714229
Same Nelf Druids are literally the most powerful class/race.
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>>337714229
death knight
alliance shaman
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>>337714229
Orc Shaman
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>>337714229
Human Paladin

Because I'm a fucking masochist who would willingly go through the same leveling hell again
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Blizzard will be a fucking idiot if they don't make Vanilla servers. They're losing out on millions of free money.
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>T-T-The bosses are having another meeting about the merger and employee retention, so that means we might not get fired, right?
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>>337714668
>Actually thinking that people, beyond a dedicated few are going to keep on paying 13USD a month for a game where there are shitloads of restrictions on what they can play as
Wew
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>>337714835
>8(EIGHT),000,000(MILLION)
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Honest question, who here would pay the full sub fee per month for vanilla servers?
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>>337715203
me and the other 250'000 that signed the petition
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>>337715203
Me. I'd pay double if I could.
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>>337715171
I don't see how that correlates to what I said.

Like it or not WoD doesn't do immense restrictions on what you play as and the leveling process isn't literal auto-attack on half the classes like in Vanilla.

>>337715203
Most likely very few.
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>>337715203
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>>337715203
It's $15/month for an already proven game with 1000s of hours of content. I'd bet at least a million people would subscribe for it.
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>>337715464
>Like it or not WoD doesn't do immense restrictions on what you play as and the leveling process isn't literal auto-attack on half the classes like in Vanilla.
And it's dead in the fucking ground and sucks dick. What's your point?
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>>337715506
>1000s of hours of content
>Vanilla
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>>337715482
Why are we posting random manga scenes?
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>>337715621
>99.9% of the population couldn't beat the game and clear Naxx after 2 years
tens of thousands
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>>337715601
>WoD
>Dead

It's just like all dry periods after last patch of the expansion more or less.

> What's your point?
I already stated my point but it seems you're illiterate. In fact, my point is within that sentence that you just quoted.
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>After the secret source code for its then-unreleased shooter Half Life 2 showed up on file sharing services in 2003, game-maker Valve Software cooked up an elaborate ruse with the FBI targeting the German hacker suspected in the leak, even setting up a fake job interview in an effort to lure him to the United States for arrest.

Nothing happened and dude was arrested in germany, but what if blizzard just hands these guys over to the feds
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>>337715754
If you count grinding the same shitty raids for months and months and months and months solely to enter the next raid as content, sure.

Not to mention issues having 40+ stay even remotely focused and have decent PCs and a decent connection at the same time.
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>>337715621
I easily spent more than 5k hours in Vanilla and 2k hours in Nos. Try not being a casual.
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>>337713365
>WE DID IT!!!!11

mfw
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>>337716002
Doing what? ERP?

Because no matter how you slice it, after your 100 hour auto-attack leveling progress the amount of actual content is very, very low.

Doing repeats of the same content does not count as new content. Otherwise you could just argue that all videogames have endless amounts of content.
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>>337715203
Definitely

I wouldn't say no to BC and Wrath ones either.
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>>337716067
how the fuck did he pull that off
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>>337715964
Are you expecting them to increase the quality of Vanilla zones?
If your computer can't handle the most intense vanilla shit then this is the least of your worries.
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>>337715203
I would literally rebuy Vanilla WoW for $40 and pay double the sub. I haven't had fun since Ulduar and I only log on for raid nights in wow because I don't want to screw over my guild.
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>>337716223
Haven't you heard? He's Sakamoto
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Another announcement of an announcement! Legacy servers confirmed!
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>We are announcing that soon there will be an announcement of some very early non-news

I get the hype for nostalgia's sake, but if Blizzard really expected legacy servers to be successful they probably would have done them by now.
The people who played on Nostalrius won't all go on a paid legacy server, and there would be a load of work bringing those servers to life in a state acceptable for paying customers.
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>they show up to the meeting only to be greeted by Blizzard's lawyers and informed that blizzard are suing them
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>>337715838
>It's just like all dry periods after last patch of the expansion more or less
Vanilla/BC/Wrath had dry periods after their last patch?

>I already stated my point but it seems you're illiterate.
You listed off featurer WoD has as if WoD was some exemplary MMO and not a total fucking disaster.

>>337715842
>but what if blizzard just hands these guys over to the feds
PR disaster tbqh

>>337715964
It's not for everyone. If you don't like it, don't play it and enjoy WoD :^]
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>>337716236
I mean back then in the actual Vanilla times.

Even powerful computers had trouble with FPS when it came to 40 man raids.
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>>337713365
can anyone link me the sauce?
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Hopefully legacy servers are announced. I'll be playing Overwatch and hoping for this kind of announcement because who the hell would play retail WoW once you finish your mythic raiding?
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>>337716159
There's tons of shit to do. If you want to be spoonfed on what to do, stick to WoD kid.
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>>337716487
http://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=44150
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Honest opinion from someone who has never played WoW in his entire life (mostly played runescape and maplestory), if they were to make a Vanilla server I would actually suscribe to the game, I always wanted to play the golden days of WoW but never got the chance.
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>>337716381
>Vanilla/BC/Wrath had dry periods after their last patch?
Yes? Once the last patch of the expansion was out people steadily dropped off until next expansion.

>You listed off featurer WoD has as if WoD was some exemplary MMO and not a total fucking disaster.
Are you an idiot? I'm saying that WoD (or just plain retail - take your pick) doesn't restrict your spec choices and lets people to play whatever the fuck they want far more than Vanilla which is an objective fact.

Another point was that leveling in retail isn't just auto-attack afk like it was for many in Vanilla. Another fact.
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>>337716345
>but if Blizzard really expected legacy servers to be successful they probably would have done them by now.
Blizzard hasn't release them because they don't want to distract from their current product. They know they'll lose players for their newer WOW releases if they rerelease something old.
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>>337716401
I suppose fourty people is intensive but it's really a negligible performance hit at this point.
Could just put your settings down, if you think about how far PC parts have come since Vanilla was released this is not an issue like at all.

Anyway it will just replicate the feel of Vanilla if it does make you lag cause I imagine Vanilla Raiders were watching a slideshow in that case
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>>337716623
Golden age of WoW was TBC, family.
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>>337716381
Vanilla and TBC fair enough, they had content which you actually had to progress to from previous raids making Naxx and SWP some of the least visited.
Wrath had a hell of a boring period, you remember that time when ICC was the current raid for pretty much a whole year?
The whole first wing and Blood Princes / Rotface / Festergut were boring as hell too, even on heroic.
People wouldn't shut up about how Halls of Reflection was the worst dungeon ever, people were whining about groups which required gearscore and achievements, people whined about how stupid the LFG system was and those who inhabited it. 3.3 was a thoroughly complained about patch, and the pithy offering in the form of Ruby Sanctum didn't change anyone's mind.
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>>337716541
The fact that you can't list anything but say "go to WoD, kid" just says it all.

At best you're looking at like 200-300 hours of content discounting repeats of already done content. Doing the same instance, raid or battleground doesn't magically become new unseen content. Once you've seen it, you've seen it.
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>>337714468
L O L
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i dont even want to know how many are still playing, probably more then what i shown here, but still there cant be many left.
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I almost like the idea of the servers blizz suggested more. I loved Vanilla WoW, but part of that love was wondering what new places they would take the game. We were getting a content patch like every month, and it felt like things were always changing. I just wish we could start over from vanilla, and have a team add new content that would continue and expand upon the vanilla game style. Why go through the fuck long grind to 60 just to do the few raids? Once you've farmed the fuck out of Naxx, what do you do?
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>>337716737
Again, I'm solely talking about back in the day. Not about today.

>Anyway it will just replicate the feel of Vanilla if it does make you lag cause I imagine Vanilla Raiders were watching a slideshow in that case
That's not really a positive, dude.
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>>337716658
>Yes? Once the last patch of the expansion was out people steadily dropped off until next expansion.
see >>337715171

I don't see any dropoffs bud

>Are you an idiot? I'm saying that WoD (or just plain retail - take your pick) doesn't restrict your spec choices and lets people to play whatever the fuck they want far more than Vanilla which is an objective fact.
And I asked what your point was? WoD sucks fucking dick so nobody would prefer it over Vanilla.

>Another point was that leveling in retail isn't just auto-attack afk like it was for many in Vanilla. Another fact.
Vanilla leveling was 1000x more challenging and engaging than WoD leveling. shit bait
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>Guys we've been doing lots of post mortems and analysis
>We have a meeting in June

Yeah they'll write an essay or book. No Vanilla servers are coming.
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>>337716883
All the people who play nos disagree. Vanilla is still fun.
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>>337716681
WoD and vanilla are literally different games.
If you are used to the comforts of WoD (easy raid building, easy group finding, balanced specs, high threat tanks, AoE loot, personal loot, easier gearing) then the switch back isn't an easy one.

Besides, most of the people calling for legacy servers haven't played WoW in years except on vanilla/TBC/WotLK private servers, the target audience would be completely different.
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>>337714524
>legacy
>death knigh
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>People think it's a real server
>Implying it won't just be Blizzard picking off members of the Nostalgia team to work for them
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>>337716940
>I don't see any dropoffs bud
That's because the next time the fucking subscriber count is shown is when the next expansion is already out, raising the subs. Dumbo.

>And I asked what your point was?
Do I really need to repeat it for like 4th time? Are you that dense? Or just plain idiot?

>WoD sucks fucking dick so nobody would prefer it over Vanilla.
I take it is the latter.

>Vanilla leveling was 1000x more challenging and engaging than WoD leveling. shit bait
Hahahaha. He actually said Vanilla leveling was ENGAGING!

Tell me how engaging it is to put on seal and auto-attack afk as paladin. Or Wand as Priest. Or putting one/dots and wand afk as Warlock. Or Auto-attack with the odd one shock once in a while as Shaman until you get Stormstrike.

It's painfully obvious you've never touched Vanilla in your life.
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>>337717015
>All the people who play nos disagree
So literally no one?
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oh cool legacy servers, something I'll play for 30 days tops before deciding damn the newer game is so much better and I was solely filled with nostalgia.
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>>337714229
Orc motherfucking Shaman
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>>337713365
The in-person meeting is literally just a formal cease-and-desist on releasing their source code. Their 'first contact' with Blizz was their legal team telling Nostfags that if they released their source code Blizz Lawyers would rape them to death in open court, and this meeting is just physically meeting with them to show they mean business.

Vanilla servers would require Blizz to admit WoW, their flagship franchise, has sucked goat anus for 5+ years. And they'd rather lose the 'i would totally pay to play vanilla, honest' crowd versus admitting current WoW huffs farts.
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>YAY, WE FINALLY WON
>WE WILL NOW PAY FOR WHAT WE HAD FOR FREE
>HAHA TAKE THAT BLIZZARD!
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>>337717312
Or auto-attack while heroic striking once a year before you get MS/BL as Warrior. Hunter's Arcane Shot + Serpent Sting wombocombo. Mage's one spell spam til shit dies.

How the fuck is this engaging?
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>>337714835
Why the fuck does it matter what you can play as? There are plenty of choices already. Just because you can't play as a stupid fucking nelf mage or belf warrior doesn't mean you'll suffer.
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>>337716067
[muffled "menacing" in the distance}
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>>337717312
>That's because the next time the fucking subscriber count is shown is when the next expansion is already out, raising the subs. Dumbo.
pic related

overall 3/10 bait
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>>337714654
>Human Paladin levelling is hard
>What is Dwarf Warrior
FUCK
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>>337716381
>PR disaster tbqh

>Implying normies give a shit about nostalrius
>Implying blizzdrones won't cheer at this anouncement

How naïve.
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>>337716940
>Vanilla leveling was 1000x more challenging and engaging than WoD leveling. shit bait

I see you haven't played vanilla before.
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I never got a chance to play WoW in it's hayday can someone explain why WoW is shit compared to what it was? What makes it better exactly?
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Where is the confirmation? In OPs asshole?
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>>337716940
1000x times more boring more like, sure did feel good spending 2-3 days of in-game time going from 50-60 the first time.
The quests were still largely "collect 10 bear asses" or "kill 8 elf ghosts".
The good dungeons didn't even really come along until 57 or so, and the ones you did have in the early 50s were on the level of fucking Maraudon or beating up on green mobs in Uldaman or RFK. All of which by the way are in the middle of fucking nowhere, man I sure did enjoy running to the middle of Desolace on a 60% speed mount only to have some chucklehead leave because his mum was making dinner or some shit, only after spending half an hour in a city spamming trade.

WoD levelling after 90 isn't great, but it doesn't commit the worst sin of being boring. The redone zones from Cataclysm are infinitely better than the vanilla experience, you actually feel pretty bad for going over to Hellfire Peninsula because it's such a slowdown now compared to previous high 50s content.
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>>337717729
Vanilla WoW wasn't casual.
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>>337714229
tauren warrior and hope guilds will accept me as damage dealer pre-BWL
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>>337717813
Can you elaborate? I never played WoW but this whole thing interests me because of such an outcry.

Was it like 2007 runescape?
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>>337717729
It had good MMO elements and good RPG elements back in the day. Those elements and the difficulty of the game have been corroded for the sake of appealing to casuals and a wider audience. As a result, the gameplay that 95% of the game offers isn't fun or stimulating to anyone with a triple digit IQ anymore.
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>>337715203
very easily
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>>337717761
Hey, come on now, there are a few decent low level dungeons

SM, Deadmines, Zul'farrak, and SFK come to mind
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Signing an online petition is easy as shit and requires no money, time, or actual desire to play the game. I will guarantee you that vanilla servers will be a total flop and all the people playing dying WoW will just go back to regular servers after the first month.
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>>337713365

Plz gibe TBC server.
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>>337717587
No you dumbo, I mean actual specs that you can play as. Only an idiot would claim that they're not extremely limited in Vanilla.

>>337717619
You do realise that those pointed parts are at the times the pre-expansion patches came out, right?
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>>337717813
>Vanilla WoW wasn't casual.

Someone never played Everquest.

WoW is when MMOs went full casual.
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>>337717679
>I see you haven't played vanilla before.
I had over a 100 days played in Vanilla. I have over 100 days played in every single expansion except for BC.

>>337717761
>1000x times more boring more like
It's not for everyone. If you don't like it, don't play it and enjoy WoD anon :^]
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>>337717995
How was the open world PvP what was the incentive exactly to raid an alliance or horde city or town or whatever?

Was there territorial pvp?
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>>337717893
It's mostly pure nostalgia. The only legitimate argument people have is that vanilla did community better and that's literally it. Every other aspect of the game is objectively better now.

From leveling, to dungeons, to raids, to pvp, to class balance.
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>>337718115
>You do realise that those pointed parts are at the times the pre-expansion patches came out, right?
Did content release with those patches?
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>>337717893
Vanilla had a ton of leveling content and made shit just slightly inconvenient enough to lengthen time to finish tasks, without feeling like the devs were intentionally wasting your time. One such feature, having to flightpath to a town and physically ride to an instance, also had the feature of forcing you to interact with the open world.

Each expansion has made efforts to streamline the leveling process, and make things more convenient. While this seems like a good thing, it makes it much easier to quickly burn through the content and run out of stuff to do. Instant teleporting to auto-grouped dungeons and flying mounts, for example, also reduce and remove interaction with the open world, and reduce it to running instanced content.
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>>337717813
You actually think Vanilla wasn't a casual? Seriously?

>>337717893
Don't listen to them. Seriously. They'll praise it to high heavens despite Vanilla WoW being clunky shit with limited choices with classes.

TBC fixed most of the problems vanilla had and was overall so much better. But people cry about flying mounts so it's "so much worse ;(("
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>>337717893
Early WoW required a very large time investment to get anywhere serious. Only 1-2% of all players ever saw a significant amount of bosses in the final vanilla raid, Naxxramas.
You would have had to gear up through something like 4 other raids to get to the point of being considered hardcore. These raids required 40 people to complete, and you only received 3-4 items per boss, with your average raid containing 10 or so bosses, so not even every person in your raid will get a piece of loot every week assuming you even kill every boss.

PvP was the same, you had to farm constantly just to stay in the same place as your rank used to degrade by itself if you did nothing.

Additionally all of this was more difficult as you had less access to other players because servers were smaller and not connected.

People who played in this time felt a lot of accomplishment and satisfaction for progressing, and current WoW only has that feeling if you go looking for it in very high end modes. The low end and average player today doesn't have to commit 8 hours a day to get there and stay there, probably not even a quarter of that. Old players feel robbed because of it, and want to go back.
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>>337718262
Actually yes. Not a lot, but content to hype you up for the expac regardless.
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>>337718151
I don't recall there being any incentive to do it. People just said "Hey, want to go fuck up the alliance/horde?" and then they grouped up and ran down Tarren Mill or Southshore
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>>337718115
There are few limits to what you can play as viably, the problem is that everyone wants to be a DPS so people have to discriminate against people who choose to be a DPS when they have a class that can tank or heal.
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>>337718262
>>337718397
Another thing is that WotLK released for China years late and it drove sub numbers up (despite Chinese not paying for sub).
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Naw, I couldn't go without the new Gnome models.
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>>337718206

>Corridor
>Boss
>Corridor
>Boss

Yeah, no. I give you benefit of the doubt on pvp and class balance since i havent done any pvp on WoD, but what i have understood, BM hunters are the Blood or were theu Unholy DKs of cata. They can solo to 2500 and even further
>Self healing on every class
>One shot everything without any struggle all the way to 100
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>>337713365

tbqh eventhough I played nostalrius and had 1 raid geared mage I would NOT pay to play that outdated piece of shit again. The only reason I played Nost was because that's all that my laptop could run. Now that I have a gaming computer I'm enjoying better, newer games.

Blizzard is seriously stupid if they took the "we want legacy servers" - meme seriously. Most Nost players I assume, were like me.
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>>337718151
Open world PvP was fun. The incentive depends, sometimes your factions low level quest hubs would get attacked. You could go there and defend it so your faction's low levels could go about questing. Sometimes you and other guilds fought directly over world bosses. Then you just had people roaming around and ganking for the sport of it and bragging rights. There was really no artificial incentive to WPvP, it was all brought about naturally by the games base mechanics.
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>>337718391
And this private server is striclty Vanilla? If I never played WoW before do you recommend getting into it if Blizzard gives the okay for their servers to re-open?

How popular were the servers or was it a niche group of 100 or so players playing like most private servers for mmo's.
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>>337717656
Early paladin leveling pre 50 is fucking torture.

All you have is auto attack and survivability, so whenever you get to fight undead type enemies you fucking cry tears of joy due to being able to use more than 2 skills in combat.

Once you can aoe pull the zombies in plague lands (and survive) its a walk in the park, just consecrate with retribution aura and enjoy the free exp and loot until 60.
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>>337718672
>The incentive depends, sometimes your factions low level quest hubs would get attacked. You could go there and defend it so your faction's low levels could go about questing. Sometimes you and other guilds fought directly over world bosses
That sounds really fun, it's a shame I never got into wow. I want to now :(
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>>337718397
So then look at the points before the prepatches. None of them show a decline. You got BTFO and you're struggling and squirming so hard to save face on an anonymous chinese cartoon forum. I don't get it.
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>>337718513
>Chinese not paying for sub
What.
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>>337718694
It got reasonably popular due to constant shilling. 800k accounts created but only 10k retained (and mind you it's free, official won't be.)
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>>337717656
>>337718768
That's why you play with friends.
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>>337714229
Dwarf Arms Warrior, yo.
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>>337718574
You do realise that he's not talking just about dungeon design? If you honestly think tank & spank with an instakill once in a while or some other boring shit is superior to more phases and lots of more shit in general you're just dense.

Also, when it came to raids the designs weren't exactly convulted. Meanwhile BRD is still the worst dungeon fucking ever.
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>>337718694
>How popular were the servers or was it a niche group of 100 or so players playing like most private servers for mmo's.
There were 150k active players and 15k+ players online simultaneously during peak on Nostalrius before it shut down. It's become extremely popular over the past year.
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>tfw would actually pay for Vanilia WoW now that there are no trolls in Legion anymore
I hope they bring some of the better stuff from the real game though
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>>337718827
I'm not even the same person. I was merely saying you were wrong on your claim that pre patches didn't have content.
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>>337718025
These are true, but as alliance SM will have a place of hatred because the nearest vanilla flight path was in fucking Southshore. You had to run all the way un-fucking-mounted past a horde capital city just to get there, and 8 times outta 10 someone would just quit while you were running.
I imagine DM had roughly the same problem as horde except you had to run through extremely hostile and gank-y territory in STV while simultaneously being underlevelled.

>>337718694
The server supposedly had a hundred thousand or more active players that logged on every day. This is the main point of contention for the legacy supporters, they claim Blizzard is missing out on a goldmine by ignoring their numbers, and go on to argue that they must have some agenda in not releasing it.
For example they think Blizzard fears releasing it because it would compete so hard with the current game, which I find unlikely because they're so different now.
The Blizzard line is that they don't have the code anymore to run these servers, which isn't ridiculous given they're 10 years old by now.
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>>337718974
Jesus, I hope it re-opens now. Fuck
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>>337715203
I probably would.
I'm broke and kind of in a rut at the moment, but if I were able to I definitely would.
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>>337718887
Actually I mispoke, they pay per hour. So it can easily drive subs up if they have time left even if they don't play.
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I miss my Paladin, but I'm still content with what I got to experience playing in Nostalrius.

I'll gladly do it again if I can though.
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>>337718890
>100 million accounts created for retail
>~200k retained
>most popular servers have 1500 online during peak
>and it's free with tokens
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>>337718768
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>>337715203
I mite.

If I get it for subbing to regular wow it may actually get me to buy and try legion.
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>>337719143
>blatantly lying
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>>337718935
>sharing experience and potential world drops with people

Fucking heretical
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>>337719153
>tfw you blow your death coil too soon
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>>337718974
>There were 150k active players
Registered players are not Active players, idiot.

The "most players online simulatenously" changes every day too.

>>337719051
Consider the fact that it was multi-region with Chinese and Russians filling it up fast with botting problems and gold selling it's easy to see why the numbers seem high.
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>Favorite Race

>Favorite Class

>Favorite Zone

>Favorite City

>Favorite Raid

Orc/Undead
Warrior/Priest
Eastern Plaguelands
Undercity
Naxxramas
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>>337719341
>Registered players are not Active players, idiot.
Disregard this.
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>>337719008
Granted yeah, but Vanilla did that shit all the time

I never personally played Warlock or Shaman but didn't they have quests that lead you straight into fucktown if you were on a PVP server
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>>337713365
Reminder that Nostfags are literally Goobergate 2.0.

Why continue to dwell on the past instead of playing in the future with the soon to be released Legion expansion?

I guess if you like 3-move Ragnaros and other casual tier raid bosses, then vanilla is for you. But if you're more interested in a challenge then I hope to see you in Legion for the new hard mode content.
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>>337719341
>Registered players are not Active players, idiot.
800k registered, 150k active. apply yourself
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>>337718563
what about vanilla with the new models?
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>>337718935
>Sharing quest drops in Vanilla
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Shaman master race
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blizzard supporting vanilla servers will truly be the death knell of wow.

blizzard will be then be forced t run 2 separate games and the fanbase in short order scream about how blizzard should add modern conveniences to vanilla servers.
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>>337718563
>he's going to willingly subject himself to the shit fucking gameplay of neo-wow for atrocious fucking character models on a shit fucking race
to each their own i guess
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>>337719543
Not going to happen.

If you want Vanilla you fucking take it as Vanilla with all its hundreds of flaws.

Even Nostalrius wasn't Vanilla.
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It's all a ruse, they're going to show up in person and be arrested for copyright infringement.
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If Vanilia servers happened, should they bring some stuff from current WoW into it? New models, transmog etc
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>>337716858
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>>337719646
>Vanilla servers become a new source of revenue
>Money from Vanilla and Current get up there
>Expansions and content in Current get much better because they have good funding, as well as a fallback for these GOD AWFUL CONTENT DROUGHTS
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>>337719701
>WoD
>Shit gameplay in comparison to Vanilla
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>>337719153
Classic.

I'm real glad I got to experience the batshit insane gear skills like
>Reduces mana cost for all skills by 25
Which only existed on 2 items during that time, an off-hand from the zelda questline and a necklace from MC.

If you stacked those effects your spells would be reduced by 50 mana, so if you stacked spell power as a paladin then you'd literally never run out of mana while spamming low ranked flash of light (Which would still heal like crazy due to spell power, and whenever you crit, you would regain mana, so you could use a higher tiered one anyways.

Then they removed it because broken...
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>>337719774
No. 100% Vanilla as it was. As true to the original down to every small detail as humanly possible. If you can't handle playing without xmog or some dumb shit, don't play.
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>>337719774

>waaah waaah i want vanilla, but i dont want to play vanilla
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>>337719872
>Instantly hit level 100
>look around for things to do
>can't find anyone to talk to or anything worth doing
>the in-game cash shop pops up offering me mounts and pets for $25 USD
>log off and uninstall
>this is considered good gameplay by retailcucks
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>>337719936
I hope you didn't play Nostalrius and think it was like Vanilla.
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>2016
>Over 18
>Still playing WoW

manchildren - when will they learn?
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>>337718935
>"hi I never played vanilla" the post.
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>>337714229
High Elf Demon Hunter.
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>>337719774
This is absolutely the most retarded thing said this thread.
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>>337720165
I know it was different. I know Vanilla didn't get shit like summoning stones until halfway through, I don't care.
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>>337719592
>group of 5 people all attempting to do yeti fur quest
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>>337720134
I can do this too famalam.

>Start playing Vanilla
>Hitting that starting zone
>You spend 10 hours there with your auto-attack
>All you get is a white cloak and level 6
>Wonder if there is anything better waiting for you
>It's just 50 hours more of auto-attacking before you get your first skill worth using on the side
>This is considered good gameplay by vanillacucks
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>>337714229
troll master race
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>>337720276
>>337719936
This is the reason why you will never get your servers. Elitists who would rather squabble in the filth of their circle jerk instead of allowing newer players in.

Literally Goobergate 2.0.
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>>337715203
I would, but I'd prefer TBC.
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>>337720320
I don't even mean that, it had bugfixes and shit, it lacked proper values for enemies, it lacked patrols.
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>>337713365
>yfw they walk into the meeting and Blizzard's legal team serves them lawsuit papers
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>>337714229

Troll Hunter desu
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1. Nostralius can no longer pay for their servers using donations, since the server host does not accept individual donations and if the Nost guys take it thats as if they're making profit from it
2. The only solution they thought up was for some magical Übermensch to pay the full price of the server hosting month per month, due on the 10th of every month. They announced this in the forums and had an open invitation for people to do it.
3. Nobody did it
4. Its literally time to pay up and they dont have the money
5. Nostralius magically gets "contacted" by English and French lawyers representing blizzard telling them to shut down their servers by the 10th. Quote: "or as long as the host lets us"
6. No images, screenshots, photos, copy-pasted text over these cease and desist "contacts"
7. Payday is up, blizzard shuts down their servers coincidentially at the same time.
8. Nost sends a sad letter to blizzard, riles up the fans, and promises to leak the source code for the servers.
9. To this day that hasnt happened. Its not like they're busy.
10. you're getting fucking played.
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>>337720414
>It's just 50 hours more of auto-attacking before you get your first skill worth using on the side


Good to know ou never played vanilla :^)
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>>337720518
>This game is not for everyone, quick, call the feelings police!
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>>337713365
>Paying $15 a month to play classic

nty.
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it's fairly obvious they will get a license to continue running the server. the f2p server will re-open with a subscription model to pay for said license.
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>>337717476

>resto
>2h
>windfury

I miss being that RNG asshole.
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>>337715203
i like how your aim was probably to get a bunch of responses shitting on people for wanting classic wow and instead, every answer earnestly and unironically said they would pay for that
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>>337720683
See >>337717312 and >>337717578
There were fuck all abilities to use in Vanilla during leveling. Only people who haven't touched Vanilla or are in complete denial over facts would claim it was even remotely active.
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>tfw you want to play FFXIV but have no friends and don't know how to play anything but DPS
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>>337719415
Goblin and Orc
Warrior before MoP, then became DK until WoD.
Quel'Danas
Silvermoon for aesthetics. Thunderbluff for the convenience.
Sunwell, Blackwing Lair and Ulduar. Karazhan never dropped that mount so fuck Karazhan.
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>>337718029
https://www.worldofcorecraft.com/
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>>337720414
I'll fix it for you.

>start playing vanilla
>there's content to do
>and people everywhere that I can talk to
>play the game, enjoy it
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>>337715203
Fucking dropped the game when Cataclysm came out, would EASILY pay for the old game.
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>>337717197
couldn't make the game any worse at least

>>337720532
it was acceptably vanilla-like, autist
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>Wanting to play Vanilla WoW
>Probably the most Casual game there is.
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>>337721004
you forgot
>game becomes ghost town due to boredom after 30 days
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>>337721004
>Vanilla
>Content of nothing but Vanilla, barely anything

>Retail
>Content of Vanilla AND 6 expansions packs (soon 7)

I don't get your point.
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>>337717578
>>337720886
It's engaging because it's difficult. Mobs can easily kill you so you actually have to use utility spells and cc in most situations.
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>>337717015
How long has Nos was around, though? Vanilla had a huge amount of content, so of course it takes time to move through all of that. But what about a few years down the line? Will the hardcore audience still be fine with only running the same raids even as they're decked out in T3? Will the rate of new players be greater than or equal to the players who feel like they've "beaten" Vanilla?

If I recall, even OSRS gets new updates that weren't available during 06, it's just that the community gets to vote on what gets added so they can keep the spirit of the game. I think vanilla WoW would need something similar to keep the player count high enough that the servers are profitable.
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>>337721197
>>Content of Vanilla AND 6 expansions
lol
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>>337721197
>Retail
>Content of Vanilla

But that content isnt there anymore. It all got scrapped and redone in Cata.
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>>337721192
see >>337715171

>>337721197
this is probably my favorite meme from these threads
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>>337721105
>it was acceptably vanilla-like, autist
Except it wasn't.
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>>337721001

>Tfw member for 3 years and 245 days

Its never coming out ;_;
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>>337720532
>it lacked patrols.
???????????????
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>>337719121
Excellent choice brother!
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>>337721326
except it was
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>>337721201
>Mobs can easily kill you so you actually have to use utility spells and cc in most situations.
And I thought you couldn't make me laugh any harder.

Pretty much the only class that would actually struggle with leveling was Warrior. Why? Because all you had was fucking auto-attack hoping you'd hit so you can get rage for heroic strike. Literally RNG.

That would be all you'd be doing besides throwing a battle shout once a year and charging once a month. Then at one point you'd get MS / BL and it would get somewhat easier but still a complete snoozefest.

Rogue also would get killed easily but that's about it. If you died as any other classes (of anything else but boredom) you were a complete shit tier player.
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>>337719415
>Favorite Race
Goblin M, Blood Elf M, Dwarf M, Orc F, Troll F
>Favorite Class
Warrior, Monk
>Favorite Zone
Durotar, Jade Forest, Grizzly Hills (dat key harp)
>Favorite City
Ironforge and Dalaran
>Favorite Raid
Orgrimmar, Throne of Thunder, Ulduar, Blackwing Lair (Runner-up is Onyxia because I love the "fight the big bad dragon" thing in fantasy)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpyInx0ldfo
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>>337719153
>11 years ago

I was so full of hope
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>>337721197
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>>337721514
You didn't actually play Vanilla. I enjoy the bait though, keep going.
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>>337714229
druid or mage
maybe even warlock
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>>337721316
>>337721294
>>337721293
Can you factually disprove me? You literally can't.

>But Naxxramas was moved and some of the zones got new quests to replace old ones!

No matter how you slice it, retail has more content.
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>>337721512
No. it wasn't. It wasn't acceptable to not have the proper vanilla values. All you did was play an emulation that didn't offer anything but an illusion of the game.
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>>337721197
Yeah because they haven't fucked the game over in the subsequent expansions.
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>>337721656
>>337721671
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>>337721656
>No matter how you slice it, retail has more content
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>>337721593
>You didn't actually play Vanilla. I enjoy the bait though, keep going.
I'm still waiting for you to explain why I'm wrong. But honestly, I'm just expecting another "you didn't play Vanilla" since you can't disprove me at all.
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>>337715203
i would quit current wow and would play old wow for as long as possible
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>>337714229
Anon the intro cinematic tells me upfront that the Dwarf hunter with a badass bear buddy is the main character of the game, so I must be one.
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>>337721656
But all vanilla zones were redone in Cata. All quests were replaced and mobs changed around and re-statted with new levels. Most of the zones also were redesigned with new environments.
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>>337721197
>>337721197
>Retail
>Content of 1 expansion pack AND 6 expansion packs of completely outdated and useless content

At least they streamlined classes so you can empty out those hot bars
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>>337721316
I'll bite
This makes no fucking sense, subs started dropping dramatically when they started fucking shit up and even more when they didn't add content for months
Something I learned from these threads, people would not pay a sub to play, but most likely they will need
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>>337713365
Do you think that'll stop him?
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I don't know. I'd probably do 1 month of sub and try to finish everything not apart of raiding. Don't have the time for raiding anymore
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>>337715842
Valve are extremely clever. More clever than most. Remains to be seen if they will use their power for good or evil in the end.

Though, you can't argue that when Valve did something they pretty much always got results. They always seemed like "go big or go home" types.
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>>337721861
Just wait til you find out that Thrall is the main character.
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Human retri

I like retri?
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>>337721763
Playing a level 8 Mage and trying to clear a Murloc Village in Elwynn was more intense and satisfying gameplay than anything Cata/MoP/WoD has had to offer. If you REALLY believe Vanilla leveling wasn't infinitely more difficult than WoD leveling, you're a retard. I think you're just memeing me though.
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No no no no no

I can resist not playing on private servers even if they are vanilla to wotlk

But if they are actual servers from blizzard then I don't think I can resist.

I was just getting acquainted with the sun again.
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>>337721201
idk, this sounds more like FFXI to me than WoW. My Warlock was always DoT>Drain Life spam solo, and shadowbolt spam in raids. My shaman was autoattack, storm strike on cool down, maybe a shock.
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>>337722036
lol are you retarded Thrall isn't even in the cinematic
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>>337721656
>No matter how you slice it, retail has more content
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>>337713365
>They come
>They're happy
>They slowly open my office door
>As soon as they walk in, the whole employee fleet is already laughing and pointing, calling them 'cucks', 'queers', 'sissies', 'nostards', and others
>Thier team is crying on the ground

Just another day of being Mike "You think you don't, but you don't" Morrhaine!
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Even if it happens they won't be free so who cares. There is no reason to pay for a 10 year old product that is not updated.
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>>337722275
chess hasn't been updated in hundreds of years
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>>337722275
>There is no reason to pay for a 10 year old product that is not updated.
Nostalgia.
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>>337715203
After the nost and recently kronos debacles, for stable servers, fucking yes.
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>>337722081
>Playing a level 8 Mage and trying to clear a Murloc Village in Elwynn
This is how you detect a shit tier player. Especially when you're a mage.

You fucking go to the water and shoot your fireball mashing your 1 1 1 1 111 1 combo til it dies. Rinse and repeat til you're done.

>If you REALLY believe Vanilla leveling wasn't infinitely more difficult
Tedious? Sure. Difficult? No. It just forced you to take 30 second breaks between two mobs on certain classes while some classes just afked away with auto-attacks like Shaman, Paladin and Priest. And technically Hunter/Wlock too since pets op.
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>>337722412
>You fucking go to the water and shoot your fireball mashing your 1 1 1 1 111 1 combo til it dies. Rinse and repeat til you're done.
wrong again fukkboi
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>>337722189
> My shaman was autoattack, storm strike on cool down, maybe a shock.
You forget that before you got your storm strike you afked with auto-attacks until you got weapon enhancements then you afked some more until you got windfury enhancement to do decent damage then you afked even more until you finally got your damn stormstrike.

Then you pressed SS once in a bluemoon and afked some more.

ENGAGING,
DIFFICULT!
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>>337721197
Fact is that old content is literally nothing else but transmog pinatas that you'll run alone and 1-shot everything if you want. It's not real content.
You can't even create a twink guild with for example everyone being lv60 to run vanilla content because the game and classes have changed so much you would be able to stomp the 40man raid with 20 literally naked characters spamming their skills.

WoW has been really, really bad with making old content relevant. There's no level scaling or anything. The only relevant content is the newest one.
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>>337722412
>Tedious? Sure. Difficult? No. It just forced you to take 30 second breaks between two mobs on certain classes while some classes just afked away with auto-attacks like Shaman, Paladin and Priest. And technically Hunter/Wlock too since pets op.
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>>337722610
why do you hate people enjoying things
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>>337719415
Dwarf/Tauren
Warrior/Shaman
Hinterlands/Winterspring/Grizzly fookin hills
Ironforge
Never got to raid in early wow, so ICC i guess?
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>>337722538
It would be nice of you to actually explain why instead of just saying "no" :D

>>337722701
Where do I say that? I'm saying that it's not fucking engaging in the slightest or is it difficult unless you're a complete idiot.
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>>337722610
Woah, before I got SS I always made sure to have lightning shield up just for SOME semblance of interactivity.
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>>337722412
>You fucking go to the water and shoot your fireball mashing your 1 1 1 1 111 1 combo til it dies. Rinse and repeat til you're done.
That's not how it was. Mobs were densely packed, you often pulled more than you intended to. You had to manage mana, Polymorph, Ice Nova, kite, watch for respawns, deal with mobs fleeing and pulling more mobs, deal with patrols, interrupt heals. If you failed at any one of these things, it might very well kill you. You think it was spamming 1 ability mindlessly like it is in retail because you started playing the game in Wrath or Cata. You can't comprehend how difficult it actually was compared to retail.
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>>337721293
>>337721294
>>337721316
>>337721557
>>337721735
>>337721963
You could've said something worthwhile and constructive, like >>337722649 but you chose to shitpost.
Gotta love that /v/
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>>337720639
Blizzard confirmed they sent the letter. Stop it with the conspiracy theories.
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>>337715203

0.
I would never play a vanilla only game.

The game was basically garbage until TBC had all it's content.
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Old WoW was okay for its day I guess but is shit today.
Modern WoW was always shit

I want a sequel to WoW from the people who made original WoW
Don't tell me modern WoW is made by the same team. I'll only believe that if they all had lobotomies.
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>>337719415
Tauren/night elf
Druid
Ashenvale
Thunderbluff
Karazhan
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>>337713365

YOU
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>>337717729
•QuestHelper isn't default built-in to the UI
•content is meaningfully separated between two continents, with social transition between the two via ships
•optional outdoor areas that strongly encourage grouping to handle elite threats
•crafting actually worth a shit for 90% of the players
•no cross-server killing server identity and communities
•no flying
•many dungeons as a meaningful 5-man playstyle with alternative progression to raiding(although still weaker)

many more points worth making, but these are the standouts
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>>337722894
You said something so completely fucking stupid you didn't deserve a real reply.
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>>337722894
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>>337722649
>Content is not real content because I say so
????

>WoW has been really, really bad with making old content relevant. There's no level scaling or anything.
It's virtually impossible to keep old content relevant all the time. They'd have to create scaling for everything and make older raids more complex as time goes on and shit. It's not worth the effort at all when the whole game revolves around gear treadmill.
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>>337714229
How were tanks in vanilla? I assume tanks would be very sought after, but weren't it warriors only spam sunder armor all day every day?
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>>337722894
My post was nothing but facts. All vanilla content WAS redone in Cata. You can deny it but that is a fact.
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and now for a Classic
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>>337720683
>i never played a paladin pre-wrath

Auto-attacking and pressing judgment/crusader strike for 60 levels was so fucking interesting, let me tell you
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>>337722894
>waa waa i suffer from dunning kruger effect waa!!
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>>337723015
>•many dungeons as a meaningful 5-man playstyle with alternative progression to raiding(although still weaker)
You do realise that they're just for pre-raid gearing, right?

Just like every fucking expansion.
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>nostalrius boys get invited to the blizzard HQ
>its all just a trick by them and the FBI to snag them for massive copyright infringement
>blizzard announces their incarceration and there will never ever be vanilla servers
>releases legion and a movie earning $100000000
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>>337715203
I would, though I liked TBC more, Vanilla always had wacky rep grinds I could always work on while logging on at odd hours.

I don't think I can do the Cenarion Circle rep grind again for that Feral mace. That was miserable.
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>>337714229
orc hunter with reptile-themed pets/mounts
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>>337723125
Only acceptable tank was Warrior.

If you had a healer spec in your trees, you were a healer. Unless you became a single accepted aurawhore like boomkin, feral druid or spriest. More than that was unnecessary.
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>Played Vanilla WoW
>Never had any problem leveling, it was really easy but just tedious as you had to drink/eat after 2-3mobs.
>Never once did I have to group up with other people, some elite quest tried to force you to do this but it would take hours to just find a group.
>When I finally hit max level I spent most of my days shouting the general chat LFG to do dungeons, I did this more than I actually played the game.
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