Don't believe the hype train, /v/, Doom 4 is a game that consists of running circles in close-knit, platform heavy environments while shooting whatever gets in your way until the area's cleared.
There is nothing else to it. It's a proof of concept for the idea of "Sonic the Hedgehog as a First Person Shooter" or "Trackmania: Shooter Edition". It'll be worth $20 once the price drops down that far, if ever. Multiplayer and the Developer Kit are an afterthought, don't even think about them.
Why is that guy from Quake 4 holding a master chief doll?
>Doom [...] is a game that consists of running circles in close-knit, platform heavy environments while shooting whatever gets in your way until the area's cleared
Wait, what's the problem here?
is this taken from a polygon review or something?
>>337604043
This isn't the description of a $60 premium AAA title in 2016.
It literally does not get any deeper than that. No additives.
>>337604173
>Doom literally does not (and never did) get any deeper than that. No additives.
Yes, yes, we get it. Your attempt at employing reverse psychology is admirable but I'm still not fucking buying it.
>>337604392
That as fine years ago you idiot
Seriously, autists shouldn't be allowed to play videogames.
>>337604392
>Your attempt at employing reverse psychology is admirable
I am legitimately trying to keep you idorts from making a bad purchase here. Why are you such a dingledorf?
Yes, Doom 1/2 were like this, too, but that was the fucking 90's. It's not an excuse to fart out such a shallow game today and slap a $60 pricetag on it.
>>337604173
>This isn't the description of a $60 premium AAA title in 2016.
Outside of the "you have to keep moving instead of playing peekaboo" bit you could easily be talking about CoD or some shit. Even the outdoor levels are fucking corridors.
>>337604173
It's exactly what doom is though. If this isn't enough to warrant a $60 premium AAA title in 2016, than Doom isn't a game for 2016.
>>337604838
But at least CoD is trying to bundle that shit with a story (and failing, but still), plus they actually put some effort into the online portions. Like I'm sorry, but Doom 4 seems to be doing even less than a CoD game.
>>337603464
So.... whats the problem with that?
Did you want some Hollywood Quality™ Cinematics™, Voice Acting™ and Explosions™. Or did you want an Immersive First Person Open World Experience™ with a wealth of Collectibles™ and Secondary Activies™ to fully immerse yourself in the ™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™
>>337604173
>No additives.
And what would those be? Fetch quests and collectables? Paid dlc pets?
Doom is an fps, pure and simple. If you want Deus Ex or Dragon Age, go play those games instead.
>>337603464
It's exactly what it needed to be. Thanks for letting me know anon! I'll go buy it right now.
>>337605113
>A 90's title isn't worthy of being a $60 game for 2016.
Uhhh.... duh?
>>337603464
>Doom 4 is a game that consists of running circles in close-knit, platform heavy environments while shooting whatever gets in your way until the area's cleared.
So, it's DOOM, got it. Thanks for the heads up, OP.faggot
>>337604173
But that is what Doom's formula is?
>>337605296
And then you fags complain about the industry dying
>>337604838
>Even the outdoor levels are fucking corridors.
haha, yeah no.
There's a good combination of big open place with decent exploitation of verticality. You can usually go in many different ways to do objectives in any order you want. (e.g. destroy three gore nest that are scattered in the level, or find multiple switch). Sure, there's a few choke point and locked door requiring keycards or something, but that's expected.
>>337605259
how about a worthwhile story or interesting characters? just because the 30 year old game didn't have them doesn't mean a modern day AAA game can get away without them
>Trackmania: shooter edition
That already existed, it was called Shootmania, made by the same dev and they tried to force the esports meme with it. Flopped hard.
>>337604686
> dingledorf
I´m going to remember that one.
>>337605157
>>337605259
Like I keep fucking saying, it'd be absolutely fine if sold at it's deserved price of $20-$30.
For $60, you're supposed to get more than a completely throwaway experience that ends in as little as 4 hours, and doesn't even change much mechanically from beginning to end.
Has Neo-/v/ become so shit they can't even properly value games for their prices?
>only open world chorefest games can be full price
god i hate poor kids who need bloated filler content to make a game "worth it"
>>337605481
>/v/ complains about how casual game maps have gotten with linear corridors
>We finally have proper giant maps in Doom
>Nobody says a fucking thing
This is why nothing will ever change.
>>337605460
>>337605618
>(YOU YOU YOU)
>>337605482
>how about a worthwhile story or interesting characters?
Yeah if only Doom fleshed out the story more.
>>337605481
"even the outdoor levels are fucking corridors" was referring to CoD, anon, not Doom
>>337605482
>how about a worthwhile story or interesting characters?
Are you fucking serious? This is Doom, the story is as basic as it gets, to get you straight into the action.
RIP AND MOTHERFUCKING TEAR
>>337604173
>game is mechanically solid, fast paced, no-nonsense shooter
>this is bad because I should be able to wear sombreros
The game is everything /v/ has wanted besides the need to collect secrets to unlock upgrades.
>>337605703
Isint that how we got Doom 3?
>>337603464
>Doom 4 is a game that consists of running circles in close-knit, platform heavy environments while shooting whatever gets in your way until the area's cleared.
That sounds great.
>>337605609
>4 hours
Source on this?
>>337604686
>MGS3
>Play it once for less than 10 hours and it's done
What's your excuse for that game you just meme'd on us anon?
>>337605859
So /v/ is literally autistic and wants to play the same game over and over for all eternity, got it.
>>337605609
> Has Neo-/v/ become so shit they can't even properly value games for their prices?
I don't value games for how expensive their facial animation is or how much it cost them to hire Kevin Fucking Spacey.
I value them for how much enjoyment they bring me. If the above doesn't bring me enjoy ment I don't care. If they put effort in designing environments and gameplay when so many have forgotten about it then that is 100% worth my money.
> doesn't even change much mechanically from beginning to end.
Serious Sam doesn't change much mechanically but it does scale - same with Wolfenstein. And that is perfectly fine. I don't need to be thrown around between mini-games and turrets sections. Give me a set of rules and keep working on them and pushing them.
>>337605959
Its closer to 8-9
Then again, think how many modern games have 8-9 hours of pure gameplay. Good gameplay. Think of it like if it was Bioshock: Infinite without boring cutscenes and good combat
>>337605765
Ho, I see. My bad, then.
>>337605959
I've been watching someone play, 4 hours isn't even possible. I think in on like hour 5 and this guy edits out any time spent looking for stuff.
>>337605609
>4 hours
Total bullshit.
>doesn't even change much mechanically from beginning to end
How surprising for a FPS.
>value games for their prices
Who the fuck cares as long as you have fun?
>>337605959
No basis.
https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=2708
>>337603464
>ITT fags and millenial fuccbois want more quicktime events and 'storytelling' in their videogames.
the Doom4 that came out is exactly the Doom I was hoping for, there is only one shit that disturbs me and that is, it is too short, I would like to play it longer.
>>337606007
Basically. A lot of gamers do, just look at how Final Fantasy 7 fans fucking shat themselves when the remake was announced to have a different combat system.
>>337606007
No, anything that is well made should be able to be experienced, in its exact form, repeatedly for a fulfilling time. This is why people re-read books.
>>337605323
>being this 9gagger
Learn your poace, scrub
>>337605482
>how about a worthwhile story or interesting characters?
>>337604686
>Doom 3 comes out
>Fans promptly get fucking pissed that it's not a doom game
>Spend the new few years begging for a Doom game that is a return to form
>It comes out
>THIS IS ACCEPTABLE IN CURRENT YEAR
>>337605959
That's bullshit. I'm 6 hours in, and I just finished the fourth level. there's still plenty of "collectors item" locked and I'm still missing a few weapons, including the minigun and what I suppose would be the BFG. Also, I only got the supershotgun in a secret, it's not lying around everywhere yet.
Then again, I backtrack a lot to find all the secrets, so a non-autistic guy would probably take like 4 hour to get where I am, but still. I'm still far from the end
>>337603464
>Doom 4 is a game that consists of reusing gameplay elements, level design and art direction from the Halo series.
Fixed. If you were looking for a single sentence description of Doom 4, this is as concise as it gets.
>play nightmare
>DEMON PRESENCE AT DANGEROUS LEVELS;LOCKING DOWN
>have to become one with fast or ill become one with deah
>>337606723
You clearly haven't played any halo games for you to honestly belief that.
>>337603464
>dont believe the hype /v/, doom 4 is like doom! there's nothing else to it
nice logic there retard xDD I bet your parents are really proud of your virgin ass
>>337607045
I played Halo 1 and 2 and original WOOD
A FPS is a FPS fuckboi
>>337606265
>>337606184
>>337606021
>>337605970
>>337605934
Look, I'm not saying it's a bad game. I'm telling you to not waste your money on an overpriced product. You liked doom 1/2, I get it. So go fucking play that, they're practically free now. I admit, Doom 4 is more than that. It adds a vertical factor to the core Doom gameplay.
I'm not trying to fix the industry here. I'm straight up telling you dunkballs that there is no $60 game to be found here. Yes, I'm sure you can afford to splurge. I afforded it, too. I was totally prepared to overpay for an OK game. I'm STILL refunding after 90 minutes, though. It's just not worth it at all, and since the multiplayer is a big fat piece of shit (as I'm sure you're aware), there's no reason not to wait for a price drop first.
Like I said in the OP, don't buy the hype. That's all. If you're so well off that money means absolutely nothing to you, then go ahead I guess. Otherwise there's nothing about Doom 4 that demands to be played right now. Save your money. Buy more vidya. Or a blowjob. Idunno.
>>337605609
>4 hours
im 15 hours in, on the last level, i think...
i have been thinking its the last level for 3 levels now
>>337603464
but that's what original Doom was...
$60 meme
>Doom 4 is a game that consists of running circles in close-knit, platform heavy environments while shooting whatever gets in your way until the area's cleared.
Awesome.
>>337603464
and this is bad, how? not cimematic enough? light on the plot?
>>337607223
You're sending mixed signals you faggot. No video game is WORTH the money. It's entertainment. People will pay whatever they want for it unless they're pirate fags.
>>337607562
Doomguy clearly needs a daughter he must rescue from the demons to fly with current gaming trends.
>>337607681
Press X to fight your inner white privilege demons.
>not liking new doom
spotted the person who either didn't play it or only played an hour or two then quit, it does start off pretty slow though to be fair
>>337607780
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I'm so sorry Jamal
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>>337607602
>No video game is worth the money
End your life, not even memeing
>>337607223
Look we get it. You're raised to think pointless fluff and 'additives' are what makes games worthwhile instead of a well worked gaming experience. Doom isn't for you.
>>337603464
>Doom 4 is a game that consists of running circles in close-knit, platform heavy environments while shooting whatever gets in your way until the area's cleared.
The original Doom was pretty much the same game, and you guys love that shit. Why the double standard?
>>337604173
Sounds like Serious Sam with more platforms, which is perfectly fine by me.
>>337607984
Is Zangoose worth the money?
>>337603464
>Doom 4 is a game that consists of running circles in close-knit, platform heavy environments while shooting whatever gets in your way until the area's cleared.
So it's everything I wanted and expected out of Doom, thanks for the heads up.
>>337603464
>running circles in close-knit, platform heavy environments while shooting whatever gets in your way until the area's cleared
I don't get it. how is a bad thing?
Are you from those "muh cinematic expirence" fucker who love move stick forward to see a cutscenes?
>>337608291
NOT ANYMORE
Unless you mean buying an old RSE, then yes
AS/OR, hell no
>>337603464
You're making it sound way better than I'm expecting, OP. Are some sort of weird reverse-psychology shill?
>>337603464
>Doom 4 is a game that consists of running circles in close-knit, platform heavy environments while shooting whatever gets in your way until the area's cleared.
I can't see your point. It seems you never played original doom.
>>337604173
WHERE'S MY PERKS SYSTEM REEEEEE MUM MUM WHERE ARE MY PERKS MUM REEEEEEEE
>>337605482
>>337605482
Every single little kid is bitching about the story, i can't understand what is the wrong with the story here.
Scientists wanted to do something and they fucked up, it is up to us to clear the mess. What is wrong with this? It is 100% more original than general call of duty bullshit.
The best part of the story is that doomguy doesn't care about the story
>>337603464
>>337604173
STOP CONVINCING ME TO BUY IT SHILL
fine im gonna get it
>>337603464
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgUf_bA2HKA
