DOOM LEVELS
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so when are you nostalgiagoggle retro fags (bet most of you are elitist 13 year olds trying to be cool) going to stop that meme that the new Doom has linear-a-typical-of-a-modern-shooter level design?
>>337583630
I never started. Cool strawman, though.
When are you going to stop (marketing) pretending D44M is a good game?
>>337583630
I will admit that the maps design is actually more open than i expected, the inclusion of automap at all is nice, and they remind me a bit of navigating Metroid Prime's maps
in all seriousness, anyone having issues where after a while a level loads and the game slows to a crawl?
>>337583847
>pretending
>>337583847
When are you gonna stop marketing and pretending Doom is a bad game? whos paying you shill.
>>337584070
Shill I don't even want to play that shit pirated. Three streams was more than enough pain to go through. I'm glad I dodged this bullet.
>music in the first few levels is just a fucking high pitched repeating whine
>upgrade tree stupidity
>forced cutscenes
>you HAVE to do glory kills to have enough HP and ammo, even if you turn them off, and the game ranks you lower if you avoid doing them because you don't want to be stunned for multiple 3 second periods
>not enough enemies
>enemies are glowy immersion-breaking health/ammo pinatas when they die, exploding in glowy shit which overpowers the gore
>shitty modern fps tropes like cheevos/compass, "weapon bash" is identical to the modern CoD's "weapon bash" instead of good old fists which were an icon of Doom
>visual design looks 100% like Halo, especially the armour, instead of a Doom game
>colour palette is muddy grayish-brown, Hell is just a muddy cave
>the whole "doomslayer" shtick = Terrorblade from Dotard, the guy who was too edgy for Hell so they had to put him in Hell prison and then he broke out
>undeniably shitty MP made by the people who brought you Halo and Call of Duty: Ghosts MP
>gauss rifle is some sort of powerup shit rather than an actual gun like the BFG was
>no mod support, """Snapmap""" is fucking barebones, with no custom assets allowed
Are you getting paid via google plus, or in hotpockets?
>>337584536
Keep posting them memes as non.
>>337584536
>I don't care about the game it sucks
>Watch not one but 3 fucking streams of said game
>Ill show you ill experience the game for free one way or another
>It's like i really played it.
HAHAHAHA you are so fuckin denuvostated peasant faggot. Whats wrong mommy couldn't give you the cash for the game or maybe it was to violent for a 12 year old faggot.
>>337584536
>music in the first few levels is just a fucking high pitched repeating whine
you're a pussy
>>337584403
>getting paid to shit on a shit game
sign me up , nothing worth buying have been released in a decade
>>337584936
The amount of effort these fags put into shitting on games you would think they get paid for it.
Their lives are beyond pathetic if they aren't getting paid for it.
>>337585087
>effort for writing 4 lines
I want to buy the new Doom, but It's £40.
I am playing a bunch of other games right now I want to finish first, but by the time I get around to picking up Doom, the MP will be dead.
Overwatch is out in a couple weeks, right?
That will probably kill the MP even Quicker.
what the fuck is this thread
>>337585276
>spending all day everyday shitting on games
>>337585305
the multiplayer is terrible, game is only worth playing for single player
>>337585305
>but It's £40.
http://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/doom-pc-cd-key-steam
If you go to their FB page you can get a 5% discount code as well.
>>337585439
I may as well wait for it too be 75% off then.
>>337584853
>>Watch not one but 3 fucking streams of said game
I never said I didn't care. I was looking forward to a good Doom game. I was willing to give Beth "arrow to the knee" esda a chance. So I made sure to do my research before purchase, and check whether it was good first before going in. It wasn't good. I'm disappointed but at least I didn't buy it and fall for Todd's memes by doing my research, unlike some COLOSSAL RETARDS
And it's not good. It's a shitheap. The funny thing is, you reek of a guy who preordered it before looking at anything, found out it was shit, and is now DESPERATELY trying to validate his purchase. Shilling a terrible game for a terrible company, LITERALLY for free.
>Fuckin
>Whats wrong
>to violent for a 12 year old
Keking at this delicious irony fampai. Keep projecting please.
Sp is great but HOLY SHIT SNAP MAP FUCKING BLOWS. I just played the e1m2 remake, and its fucking pathetic. Snap map is only good for making gimmick levels, PLEASE PLEASE RELEASE REAL MOD TOOLS FOR PC
Are snap maps made by other people going to be publicly available for download?
they did a pretty good job but the game isnt fun to play...i have no desire to keep playing
the pacing just isnt right, and the visuals are overdetailed, leading to constant eye strain for me; enemies do not stand out from the background enough etc
>>337585276
>the same 4 lines every thread every minute
>>337585649
Yes. Thats the point
>>337585575
lol holy shit kid you are hilarious.
>>337584536
>literally hasn't played it
>greentexts like he's played it
What was the point of your post?
Most of the reactions to the single player have been mostly positive. I'm looking forward topirating it
/v/ had a shitflinging contest about Wolf when it was announced, Shadow Warrior when it was announced, and Deus Ex Human Revolution before the demo leaked.
>>337585575
>Bragging about watching three full streams.
What happened
I somehow missed the guy on the ground carrying keycards in that level.
I spent way too much time mindlessly walking back and forth.
>>337585575
>Keking at this delicious irony fampai
you will never have friends
>>337583873
Glad I'm not the only one who thought this, though I wish the maps were in proper 3D showing room detail like in Prime rather than just flat surfaces layered on top of each other.
>>337584536
>streams
stopped reading there
>>337585786
>I'm looking forward topirating it
Good luck with that
>>337584536
>the average /v/ user summed up in 1 post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8Z6brRhHWg
It's easier to find your objective than it was in the original DOOM even when turning off compass. Which isn't a terrible thing, it's just astonishing to me that they even included the compass when even the map wasn't necessary to find out where to go.
>>337586038
autism.mp4
>Trailers show slow paced action, linear levels
>Game actually has fast paced action and complex levels
All they had to sell me on this game was post something like this:
https://youtu.be/80KheY_8E6s?t=58
>>337585590
>Snap map blows
Dude, give people time. It took me 4 hours just to set up the first room in my first level, such that it has all the details and programming of the standard game.
>And yeah, that map blows because they were showing how fast you could build and play a map; not how well.
>>337585575
>Keking at this delicious irony fampai.
Maybe doom isn't the game for you weeb faggot.
>>337586038
>someone actually made this video
>>337584536
>>337585575
Noice anon, you're triggering all the shills, keep going.
>>337586165
It's hilarious. You're mobile and fast as fuck in the game when you learn how to play. They were just trying too hard to show off the graphics I guess.
>>337584853
>>337585780
>>337585904
>how do you know a game is worth buying without playing it?
>just watch gameplay footage and base your purchase decision off that!
>but you can't say the game is bad off that same footage! Just buy it goy!
Shill logic 101
This just reeks of a game that's going to be in the bargain bin in a months time. I'll probably pick it up then when it's like $10.
>>337586165
>>Trailers show slow paced action, linear levels
how do you presume to know anything about how linear a level is from snippets a few seconds long? or with someone only going down one route?
>>337586191
That doll looks like it should be a loli, but its got big tits and long limbs. Its creeping me out.
>>337586038
God damn I hate invisible walls.
>>337585847
I'm not bragging. Everyone should watch streams/videos of gameplay before release of a game to make sure the thing they're buying isn't distilled shit.
>>337586172
Please dude. The fucking DEVELOPER levels on there are shit. Snapmap has incredibly low potential
>>337585567
Just stop begin a fagot and pirate it.
>>337586752
You are the reason it has Denuvo.
You are the reason nearly every major game release this year will have Denuvo.
Feel proud of your accomplishments, piratekek.
>>337586607
>Fucking developer levels
Do you even know what that means?
>This level was built by a guy who was told to take an hour out of his 10+ hour work day to build something he doesn't care about during the most important part of the game development period.
Learning something about your hobbies before you feel like openning your mouth again.
>>337586752
>Just stop begin a fagot and pirate it.
>Can't pirate got Denuvostated
>Shill the fuck outta the game
>The game sucked so much i didn't want it anyways.
HAhahahaha have fun shitter
>Buying a AAA in 2016
>Giving money to Bethesda
Both are the reasons why i won't buy it or pirate it.
>>337587301
Nice memes, do you feel like you fit in now?
>>337587301
please fill /v/ with more high-content posts
the level of discussion here is so bad now and people love to throw around that it was "always this way" it really wasnt
huge 500 post threads on the front page about streamers every day...shitpost city...theres no point een coming here anymore
whats the point of the 50th doom thread of the day
>>337587035
What? What in the fuck are you talking about? "Learn something about my hobbies?" As if this is common knowledge in the gaming community or even knowledge you have access to? You just completely pulled that out of your ass, you don't have the first clue what its like being a dev behind the scenes. "A 10 hour work day", you don't actually believe that do you?
I'm baffled at what an awful response that was
>>337587406
It's not even a meme, it's 100% what i am doing.
>>337587480
>it's 100% what i am doing.
What is it like to be brainwashed by shitposting and memes?
Snapmaps are the hidden gem of this game
>>337587453
Think of it this way, why would they save their best levels for a feature of a bonus feature?
Also
>Not knowing about game development
>Not knowing about the crazy crunch times and near sweatshop levels of work late in the game dev cycle
>Being willfully ignorant
>>337587572
>the stripped down lbp editor is the hidden gem
Yah no. All the snapmap rooms are predisgned, in other words, every snapmap level is identical. Its actually worse than lbp, you have no ability to make moving platforms or anything in the environment that could be described as more than basic.
Its nice for gimmick levels like tower defense or waves of monsters, but if you want to make actual doom style levels with it, forget it. You'll be using the same 20 rooms over and over again
Its not an acceptable substitute for real mod tools, and I can guarantee the snapmap community will be dead in a month
>>337586607
>Snapmap has incredibly low potential
The game has been out for less than 48 hours
>>337587406
>Buy Bethesda games or you're a MEME!
Hello, shill, how's the pay?
so will this game ever get like actual mod tools or is it just this snapmap trash?
>>337586607
Have you played halo 3/reach? The dev levels are literally just examples you can use for inspiration, what the community was able to do with forge was amazing and resulted in some of the best maps in the game. Oh and not to mention that snap map has much more tools and stuff at its disposal, its only a matter of time before the creative autistic guys get the hang of it and publish their works
>>337587923
>Not knowing about the crazy crunch times and near sweatshop levels of work late in the game dev cycle
Gonna need source on that
Also, you're avoiding the point. The actual limitations presented by snapmap are ridiculous. You can't actually put toxic waste in your levels, instead YOU HAVE TO PUT GREEN LIGHTS ON THE FLOOR THAT DEAL DAMAGE.
Want to make a platform to lowers? Too intricate. Instead you can make one that disappears and reappears lower. Its ridiculous
>>337588279
>what the community was able to do with forge was amazing and resulted in some of the best maps in the game
This. While as much as I'd love full big dick level editors and mod tools, snapmap is pretty neat and accessible. Even the baby tier tools you were given in Halo 3 turned out some sweet maps.
I can't in my right mind pay $60 for this. You sheeple go ahead and pay that but it isn't worth more than $30
>>337588087
Yah, and if you've been inside snapmap you'd see how incredibly bare bones basic it is
>>337588270
Just snapmap
>>337586038
russian autism
also are you still mad about company of heroes 2?
>>337588279
Great, it might have the same potential as a more basic than basic level editor from 2007 for a last gen console.
God, the fall of standards is fucking pathetic
>>337588814
Games are much more complex than they were in 2007.
there isno fucking way all these people defending this shit game aren't paid shills
you can tell because they never attempt to refute anything, just switch to ad hominem and redirection
>>337588376
>http://gameindustry.about.com/od/game-development/a/Crunch-Time.htm
>http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-10-23-game-devs-when-does-crunch-cross-the-line
>https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/18/crunched-games-industry-exploiting-workforce-ea-spouse-software
>http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/05/the-death-march-the-problem-of-crunch-time-in-game-development/
Even the dev's wives are pissed
>http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ea-settles-ot-dispute-disgruntled-spouse-outed/1100-6148369/
>http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/97391-Rockstar-Wives-Complain-About-Working-Conditions
Also
>Read anything about the development of your favorite game
In AAA studios, it's all about deadlines and investor quotas. And this is just western studios, you should read about the pure hell conditions in Japanese studios where their work culture is much more intense.
>>337589098
Don't you have anything to do with your miserable existence than constantly shitpost about shills trying to b8 people?
Are you this starved for attention?
>>337583630
How do you distinguish between shilling and actually liking the game? It's a new game that was mostly kept under wraps, was fairly hyped, had a lot to prove and seem to have done that. So every time I see a new thread I genuinely assume that people have to say something about it. Yet most of the people seem to think that somebody is trying to sell them something (in a way of course they are: word of mouth is a very effective marketing tactic but it requires the game to be at leastfun).
git gud
>>337589041
Im assuming you're being sarcastic. Its people like you who are totally willing to eat up shit like snapmap and ask for seconds , that are the reason games haven't progressed at all in the last decade
>>337589267
Thanks for proving my point. I hope your masters are satisfied with your work.
>>337589441
step up senpai
>>337588376
Any software development has a crunch time. I consistently work some OT and around launches 80 hour weeks.
>>337589427
The shills are the one irrationally defending the game from any criticism. [Spoiler]the people itt shitting their pants because I said snapmap seems kind of outdated and doesn't feel like a proper substitute for mod tools [/spoiler]
>>337584070
>DRM Fanboy
GET THE FUCK OUT!
>>337586038
what the fuck, someone actually made this
>>337589782
Okay, as good place as any: what is the appeal of mods? By the time I'm done with a game I've had enough of it's mechanics and don't really want to play inferior user generated stuff or do something myself. The only game that I've ever thought that I wanted to do mods in or play someone else's mods was MGSV. I can't understand someone wanting to spend more than 100 hours that in, let's say, oblivion, and 100 or even 200 hours is something you can easily do with the official stuff.
>>337590367
Are you fucking joking? Am I being b8ted? The greatest doom campaigns ever made were mods
>>337590806
it's a shill, report and hide
>>337589782
>snapmap seems kind of outdated
When I learned what type of "physical scripting" it takes to make something work it reminded me of Starcraft map editor where parts of the code that weren't possible to write in the script editor would be physical placed on the map. And even then there's you can partially write your own script.
>>337590367
Doom modding exists because there are no barriers and the technology is simple and has been dissected thousands of times.
New engines from id are too technologically complex to pick up for non-professionals. So it has to be dumbed down. Snapmap just does it by dumbding everything else on top. I think engine technology should be dumbed down, not the gameplay mechanics.
>>337590806
I was talking about modding in general and I haven't played those campaigns. I don't mind people having issues with the lack of modding tools, I was just asking a general question brah.
I fucking hate vaulting in FPS games. Devs please cut this shit out. Just lower platforms when designing levels or increase jump height so we can just jump there directly instead of stopping our momentum and removing our ability to shoot so you can play a shitty little cutscene to pull the character up an inch.
Fucking worst technology to ever be integrated into fps game. I hate this shit so much
>>337591607
vaulting is good, because if you just have you jumping from platform to platform then you get just floaty fps jumping platforming shit and no one likes that.
vaulting makes you lock on to your targeted platform and puts you solidly there
>>337592957
I know you're joking, but honestly whoever decided to add vaulting to FPS games should be executed
>>337589441
>overly complicated and unrealistic level desing
>good
>>337584536
If you're opinion had some merit and was worth reading, why would you need to copy and paste it so often?
>>337584536
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su1wK7iCQfQ
