What went wrong?
>>337572620
not being a exact duplicate of the original
>>337572620
Bethesda's check bounced
>By the time I was halfway through the 8.5-hour-long campaign
8.5 hours? What difficulty were they playing on? I'm on HMP and by 8 hours I'd just got back to Mars from Hell.
>>337574418
You must be going pretty slow, that's only like a third through the game
Wait a sec
>8.5 hours campaign
>can't mod because of denuvo
>snapmap is only for multiplayer
>meaning that people can't make maps for future expansion
What the fuck is the point of this game?
>>337574418
What the fuck is wrong with you
>>337574710
It will have a sequel. Did you even play the game?
>>337574772
>Did you even play the game?
No, because I don't like to throw money at shit that's not worth it.
>>337572620
I dont know. Im enjoying the fuck out of it.
>its original Doom marine
>He stayed in hell and continued to punch demons in the face
>literally stayed just to punch them for all eternity
>sent their biggest demon after him
>he punched it to death
>they got so scared they trapped him in a magical sarcophagus
>etched the picture of him punching demons to death on it and warned to not let him out
>he stayed mad the entire time, getting angier as time went by
games 10/10 so far.
>>337574870
>judging a game without even having played it yet
You are the problem with /v/.
>>337575249
>blindly throw money at something just to say whether or not it's shit
You're the problem with society, you're the reason corporate jewery even happens, you're the filth that allows corporations to rawdog the rest of world as long as your needs are met. Fuck off with your retardation, you nigger.
>>337576319
He bought and played the game, regardless of said game's quality. His opinion is actually valid compared to the one coming from a sad, pathetic shtiposter like you.
>>337572620
denuvo
>>337576406
As a person deciding on whether or not to buy the game, "buy the game and then tell me how you like it" is not a compelling argument for the game. But look at me, I'm arguing with a shill.
>plays on i'm too young to die
>game is short and ai is shit!
who else but ign?
Fast shooter that requires you to stop and melee everything.
That's what went wrong
The game's padded after the halfway point. There's no new enemies at all and you just clear terribly designed and boring maps for 8 additional hours
Does the physical copy has the files in the disc or is just a downloader?
>>337577970
Downloader
>>337574772
>implying it's a sequel and not dlc
>>337572620
NOT
ENOUGH
MEMES
>>337573054
pretty good
>>337575123
You should totally post this to Steam reviews!!
>hell levels are literally ancient ruins with blood on walls and floors
>>337577642
You can dissable that from options, also Serious Sam BFE
>>337577642
Then don't fucking melee them LMAO.
>They are forcing me to shoot demons! I don't want to do that!
>>337578790
try harder difficulties without the health from glory kills.
>>337578790
>don't melee demons
>run out of ammo
Sound like a good plan, "lmao"
>>337578228
>those graphics
What
>>337575123
holy shit that sounds awesome xDD
>>337578985
They drop health when you are low anyway, maybe you should try dodging more often.
>>337579053
Use the chainsaw my friend
>>337578341
>>337579139
>newfags that desperate
>>337579337
>I dislike being shoehorned into using melee
>"Use the chainsaw!"
You should work for Bethesda.
>>337576525
>Can't like the game without being a shill
Fuck off. Just don't buy it, then. Don't sit here and be a whiny fucker and complain about what you don't like from trailers.
Nobody actually wants a singler player FPS game in 2016.
Game plays awful, is generally lazy and has absolutely zero staying power in either SP or MP.
Deserves the score.
>>337579054
Shitposters are poorfags. What else is new?
>>337579054
It's literally a draugr mesh ported from Skyrim, that's why it looks that shitty.
>>337578228
Don't lie man, the peak today is 38k. Maybe it will even manage to beat Arma3.
>Game actually takes the old games as reference for the majority of its gameplay mechanics and level design
>Weapon mods prevent the weapons from feeling stale and are satisfying as fuck
>Probably the first AAA FPS in years with maps this large and non-linear with a surprising amount of VERTICAL exploration
>Glory kills/Chainsaw are repetitive and boring while at the same time being a much better mechanic to heal yourself than generic health regen while in cover since it keeps a hint of momentum to the action
>D44M is actually pretty fucking good all things considering
>Purist still lose their shit saying it's nothing like it and it killed the Doom name
>When Doom 3 exists
I'm actually pretty fucking satisfied with it.
>>337578228
What's an ancient Nord doing on Mars?
>>337579657
Okay that's the skeleton. But how do you explain everything else?
TORRENT WHEN
>>337578228
>Unturned
Holy fuck where'd that player base come from? I haven't touched it in a few months, what the hell happened?
>>337574418
I've been playing on Nightmare for around 7 hours and I'm still in Hell.
>>337579518
Well, you've neither said anything about the game nor have you refuted any of the points I made, all you're doing is praising the game for some nebulous reason that you haven't made clear, meanwhile I'm wondering whether or not it's really worth 60 dollars for a short game with limited replay value beyond finding secret doors.
But OK, whatever, apparently I'm the shitposter here, Mr. Corporate Cocksucking Shill.
>>337579751
Don't forget
>enemy projectiles are dodgeable
After what feels like a decade of FPS's with hitscan enemies that make you either tank damage or hide behind cover, this simple feature is so refreshing.
>>337579507
So your autism can't handle 2s of chainsaw melee like once or twice total? Nice.
>>337572620
They didn't pay the "gaming media" enough.
Should have invested more on buying out youtubers and streamers like the other companies do.
>>337580173
You're even incompetent in your bullshit. You definitely should work for Bethesda.
>>337579959
Alright, let's take a look at your stupid as fuck arguments.
>8.5 hours campaign
It's a shooter. If you go for everything, explore every nook and cranny and not just go straight for the exit, it's about 10-11 hours, also including the old DOOM maps you've unlocked.
>can't mod because of denuvo
Boo hoo.
>snapmap is only for multiplayer
AFAIK, you can make coop stuff in Snapmap. I haven't fucked around with it too much, finished up singleplayer and dabbled in multi. Sad to see my Beta progress didn't carry over.
>meaning that people can't make maps for future expansions
See above.
You're just being a parrot of all the other retard shitposters trying to fit in with the 'lmao nice SHIT game ;^)' bandwagon. Fuck outta here.
>>337579813
Never.
>>337572620
Shitty multiplayer, and Snapmap is limited to the point of being pointless for single player.
Campaign is actually good, but does have its problems. It seems to be taking after Painkiller a lot with the whole "locked in room until all monsters are dead" crap being a recurrence, even with the key hunting..
>>337580298
Yeah, because you clearly can't use pistol or melee/chainsaw when you have no ammo for the other guns just like in the original doom right? :^)
>>337579751
You forgot to tell the consumers about the epic maps you'll be able to create with SnapMap™.
No need to use confusing modding software anymore!
>>337580359
You do realise you refuted nothing with your post, right?
>>337580359
>can't mod because of denuvo
>Boo hoo.
Kill yourself.
>>337580615
And you said nothing of value with yours to begin with.
Stop being a bitch and leave.
>>337580359
>DOOM, the game that made user made mods huge, does not have the ability to mod in the sequel
>"Boo hoo"
What a kike you are.
>>337580359
It took way too much time for you to come up with this, but I'm glad you did.
>10-11 hours, including old DOOM maps
Doesn't sound like much, but w/e, you seem happy with it.
>Boo hoo
>a feature that was a major selling point of the older games in the series is missing and is a detriment to the overall game, people that are concerned about this are just entitled fucks
OK.
>you can make coop stuff in Snapmap
Sounds fun, but is it limited by that shitty two weapon system? Will actually be cool to fuck around with friends.
>>337580715
Except all his initial points that you failed to refute were valid. Maybe I have something against the length argument, as 9 hours is pretty much standard length. All the rest of the stuff that was said is pretty much spot on, and all you can do about is get aggressive and insulting.
>>337580359
dumb anime poster
>>337580361
In a few days, actually.
>>337575123
I dont understand this much.
Implying that he is the "Original" doom marine, how come there are no reports of the previous invasion or the "hell on earth"?
Granted im still in hell but what i understand, the only issue with earth is no energy.
Never was a demon invasion mentioned.
>>337580403
The upgrade system seems pretty off, too. I mean, having to upgrade max ammo/health/armor? really?
>>337580576
I don't give the slightest shit about modding so I don't know anything about the Snapmap.
Nice try with your epic shill insinuations, though. Upvoted.
It doesn't look terrible but it doesn't look fun compared to Doom 1/2. Enemies are too sparse, the gun sounds are too tame, the metal soundtrack is shit (some wub-wub metal shit for the millennials). They needed to make something like a modern brutal doom, but they even fucked that up. It's ok I guess.
>>337580686
>>337580786
>>337580829
Game clearly wasn't built around modding, outside of SnapMap. It sucks PRETTY HARD considering all the time I've poured into Samsara and Back to Saturn, but it's better to know now then later. Bethesda wouldn't allow for it, and even if it did, it'd be regulated halfway to death. Knowing how insane people are they'd probably find a way past it all to make proper modding tools anyway. If it's a huge, HUGE factor of enjoyment for you, then don't pick it up.
>>337580829
>Doesn't sound like much, but w/e, you seem happy with it.
Well, it's more than double as long as the original Doom, so I don't see the problem here.
>sequel made almost 20 years later isn't as good as the original
This is hilarious. ID Software should commit seppeku.
Is that IGN? I watched them play it, they sucked at the game. Wasn't as bad as Polygon, but they were still bad.
Review is probably going to be
>TOO FAST
>NOT LIKE 3
>WHY IS THERE NO STORY IN DOOM?
>>337580905
Because Hell in Doom is also a nexus connecting alternate realities. The Doom 1, 2, and 64 universe is separate from the Doom 3 and D44M universes, but they all share the same Hell. This is the original Doomguy, he's just been brought to an alternate universe.
>>337581034
>a Doom game
>made by Bethesda
>"Why did you think there would be mod tools?"
>>337581371
Considering we're still waiting for the FO4 GECK...
I feel like id saw how big modding was for DOOM 1/2 and tried to make it more accessible for everyone.
However, in the process, they sort of fucked up and came out with something that KIND OF works, but isn't what a lot of True Doom Murderheads want.
Also the multiplayer emphasis on it is sickening and I hate it. I enjoyed the campaign a boatload (because circle strafing with perfect double jump mobility) and will probably try it out again on Nightmare.
>>337581191
Not sure if rusing or serious.
>>337581663
Well, I haven't played it myself, I'm just telling you what I've been told in a previous thread.
>>337572620
>if we had a score now
so it's totally fine to publish that you are waiting for the paycheck?
>>337580879
Kill yourself along with him reddit scum.
>>337581371
>>made by Bethesda
>>337581663
No ruse.
He's pretty much right. At the end of DOOM 64, where he decides to stay in Hell and fight forever, he is captured and thrown into a tomb, and sealed with powerful demonic energy to basically be in perfect stasis since the demons know they can't just kill his ass.
Alternate dimension UAC (which is kind of like the cult from Dead Space) are using Hell for an energy source, they go in, find him, pull him out. Crazy cunt starts to try and upgrade humanity via Demon Takeover. Doom guy wakes up. He's mad.
>>337578228
That pic is old though, Doom has gone above 35k players.
But then again, I'm on /v/.
>>337582048
DOOM 64 was great.
Gonna go replay it.
>>337581635
Not that guy, but you do realise the F4 modding tools have been out for quite some time now?
I mean, shitposting is nice, but please man, c'mon.
You can go back to your argument now.
>>337582272
Is a Doom 64 wad or something?
They got pissed they didn't receive the game in advance. The entire article is praising the game.
>>337582458
Not really. It's an N64 game. There have been fan-made attempts to outright port it to PC, though.
>>337582387
Oh? Thanks for the heads up.
Working nights completely ruins my brain.
>>337580905
Dude, it's RIP AND TEAR metal album cover plot.
Just enjoy the ludicrousness. Doomguy basically became Hell Boogeyman.
>>337572620
I found the game highly enjoyable for the last 6 hours, what the fuck are people complaining about? It's a really nice shooter.
>>337584157
Some peoples aren't retarded
>>337584157
>what the fuck are people complaining about?
the majority in general not being edgy enough for 4chan standard
>>337572620
You for taking IGN seriously.
Played the game for 4 hours and i'm already tired of it with no drive to ever go back.
Who /me/ here?
What went right?
https://a.pomf.cat/qrvrzq.webm
>>337584614
apart from the "getting locked into the chainsaw animation" thing at the start it looks decent
>>337572620
7.1 isn't a bad score? Looks fine to me.
>>337584157
Everyone that's complaining hasn't even played the game and is basing their opinion off what they read or saw, I'm being serious lmao.
>>337582509
>attempts
Doom64EX is excellent.
>>337584935
> I got Cs in elementary school
> I made my mom's husband proud
>>337574418
Are you fucking retarded? I beat the game on ultra violence in 6 hours
>>337585226
Yes, but it won't work in the source port of your choice (e.g. GZDoom), only in the one it comes with.
no dopefish easter egg
0/10
>>337585346
Its a 1-10 scale. Their grading system has nothing to do with how schools grade. Come on man 1-10 is universal don't be an idiot
>>337578790
The game is built around it you fucking moron. There is barely any ammo and health anywhere, you must do the gay ass kills to get HP. I bet you're playing on normal you pleb fuck. Same with Max gay 3, fucking game is built around taking cover so fucking gay
>>337585569
He and Commander Keen will show up in the DLC.
>>337585569
The guy with the really bad europ accent who made the video laughing at goat go up ladder?
>>337585587
> I got Bs I swear
>>337585594
> using cover in max payne 3
holy shit nigger, gitgud
>>337585564
Well, yeah, but port-hopping is already a necessity when playing modern WADs, so I don't really see the problem with that.
>>337585714I really hope you're being sarcastic anon
>>337585806
>playing on easy
>>337576319
This guy relies on doing chores around his parents house for $
>>337585835I didn't have internet faster then 5kb/s until 2009 because australia, I know who dopefish is and I know that he's in one of the classic doom games but I do not know why
>>337585839
> doesn't realize that easy is the only place where cover isn't a complete waste of time that could instead be used headshotting favelaniggers
I bet you don't even have ny minute complete and played on easy yourself, bitchboy
>>337578228
>skyrim has more players than fallout
fucks sake reddit
>>337585594
Enjoy doing glory kills on harder difficulties where it'll get you killed.
>>337574772
>Assassin's Creed has a sequel, that's why you should buy the first.
No, if the sequel will be better, we'll fucking get the sequel
>>337572620
is this from the guy that play DOOM very badly?
>>337576319
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>337585594
>There is barely any ammo and health anywhere
Incorrect there is at least 3 medium or large medpacks in literally every encounter room and glory kills almost never give you ammo, 95% of the ammo you use comes from pickups around the level
>>337586251
Also incorrect I've been playing on nightmare and never been killed for doing a glory kill
>>337572620
Wait is tht really what IGN's doing now?
Lol thats good.
>>337572620
>IGN
>2016
>>337586251
You're invincible
>>337585594
>There is barely any ammo and health anywhere
Confirmed for having not played the game; these things are everywhere in encounter rooms. Glory kills don't drop health/ammo unless you're really low and chainsaw always spawns a boatload of ammo if you've got multiple weapons sitting on fumes.
>>337579054
graphics are fine desu
90% of the WAD out there are for single player stuff.
Why can't you make single player mods?
Oh right because if you could get those for free you wouldn't have to buy overpriced shitty "season passes".
Same shit as Total War turning to shit the moment Sega got it, "too much content is bad for the customer".
>>337578228
DUDE CANT WAKE UP XDD LMAOOOOO
>>337587235
>gun takes up 50% of my field of view
Is there an option to make it smaller or less obtrusive?
Or is such an easy feature from the 90's entitlement too?
>>337580359
Story behind this picture?
>>337572620
>can't aim
>can't even shoot up or down
>no kill streaks
>no classic multiplayer mode like TDM, SnD, CtF, etc.
>no custom load outs
>no regen
>shitty "dark" edgy setting
Honestly, it's shit compared to modern shooterz
>>337585994
The Dopefish (a minor enemy from one of the Commander Keen games) made cameos in Doom and Quake specifically as a nod to iD's earlier work.
>>337578228
jesus fucking christ i knew it would be bad but not this bad
Why don't they put out a fucking demo with the first couple of levels from single player?
Thanks Arthur Gies! Reminder that he told audience to cancel preorders and couldn't play the game (despite being "the FPS guy at Polygon."
>>337587468
Since when is Dopefish in Doom?
>>337579558
No, that's retarded. If it was made well like FPS games of old it would be praised.
>>337587382
It's more like a quarter. I'm sure it's minimized with FOV changing.
>>337587382
There are smaller weapons
FOV is 120
>>337587354
i don't think that counts
>>337574710
DLC
get that classic feeling with the 40 "hell is freezin" season pass you good little goy
>>337587441
fuck off with your false flag it's a copy and paste modern shooter
>>337587607
>this is what nostalgiafags actually believe
Shitty genres go the way of the dinosaur for a reason. This includes single player FPs.
>>337587589
Sorry. I accidentally mixed up the Commander Keen cameo in Doom II with a Dopefish cameo. Dopefish doesn't appear in Doom, just Quake (and a bunch of other, non-iD games like Duke Nukem 3D, for some reason).
>>337587468
Well fuck me I spent all these years thinking it was that youtube guy's original character or some shit
What happened to Bethesda?
They used to love mods.
>>337587979
>I spent all these years thinking it was that youtube guy's original character
i want neo v to go
>>337587895
They disappeared because of pandering to the mainstream audience that demands instant gratification, aim-down-sights, and quicktime events.
Such quality features, in comparison to the rpg/fps games of old, totally just nostalgia bro.
>>337586228
"SKREEEE REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT SKREEE"
>>337588031
>modding taking front and center focus in fallout 4
? they still do love mods
I bought the game. It is pretty fun for the first 4 hours before it goes into kill room into next kill room into next kill room with little to no variation and you already have pretty much all the weapons.
>>337588191
And they love paying for them on console I bet.
>>337585749
>>337587612
I like your style, anon.
>>337588139
Or because just going down a (semi-)linear corridor shooting AI enemies hasn't been novel for ten years.
>>337586438
Are you retarded? Because you sound pretty damn retarded.
>>337578319
But that isn't Pikachu playing the trumpet
Neither of those things are correct
>>337588261
they'll be freely available on console same as pc
>>337588243
what do you think single player fps games are supposed to be about
>>337588031
they dont give a shit about modding for games they dont make.
geck was launched late due to their buggy platform. it still permit uploading shit to nexus and even without it, fo4 is still highly moddable.
>>337572620
Nothing
http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DanrvBD4aTGY&start1=&video2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DOlUH1nCka8k&start2=0&authorName=doom%20mashup
>>337588396
You're absolutely right, anon. Have this one of R2-D2 playing the bass instead.
>>337588068
I was totally alive when commander keen came out but I didn't have anyone to tell me about how good pc gaming was, SNES was all I knew
>>337588408
Just because something triggers you doesn't mean it's not true.
People who unironically want for example HL3 in 2016 are as delusional as people who think there's room in this world for a story driven RTS like Warcraft 4.
The world moves forward and that's a good thing. Some things are left behind. For a reason.
>>337588396
return yourself to reddit
>>337574418
Nigga it took me 4 hours for that.
>review embargo ended a day ago
>not a single critic review on metacritic
>>337588609
>he still thinks hl3 is going to be a single player game
its been beyond obvious for years that itll be a destiny type game
>>337588372
>Guy says "the game is short as fuck and you can't mod in singleplayer content. This game is pointless."
>You respond "But it will have a sequel tho."
If there's logic to see in your response, then yes, I am retarded. Enlighten me.
>>337588748
Well it's basically rated 7/10 and that's what you could consider offensively average - nothing stands out as particularly bad but it certainly isn't very good or enjoyable.
>>337588609
warcraft isnt story driven. it is community driven. the plot just play a huge part in it.
now blizz is going the way of children driven games.
dawn of war is getting released with all the story driven crap. coh 2, despite its scumbag business practice, was a success as well.
>>337572620
I hate all the shitters who say this game is bad. All because of the multiplayer like thats what doom has ever been about. Fucking cod shitters and faggots.
>>337588803
Of course, if there's ever a HL3 (and I doubt it) it won't be a linear shooter like many stupid people would expect. That's the point.
>>337588963
If you played Warcraft 3 when it came out you were probably a kid. So how is it not a children's game?
>>337588403
Wolfenstein was really fucking fun without be tedious. Even COD had more variation in the end game.
>>337578446
this
they fucking canned
One of things I miss which I loved in the original games would be the unique, distinct sounds most enemies gave off. Revenants had their shrieking and the arch viles had their deep gargling. I wish this game did more to retain that.
>>337589089
calm down, kiddie.
>>337589154
It's worse than Wolfenstein? Because I found that awfully boring and I only made it like halfway through.
>>337588881
No, I am not that guy, nor do I think his reply made sense either. What I find retarded is this post >>337586438 alone.
>>337589154
>COD had more variation in the endgame
so you shoot asians instead of brown and white guys in the end game? noted.
>>337589365
Yes. I found it worse than Wolfenstein.
Was it worth playing? Yes.
At it's current price? No
Grab it during a sale.
>>337589457
I meant variation in setting, set pieces etc.
Doom 4 was just kill room into kill room at the end.
>>337589497
I pirated Wolfenstein and it still felt like I fucked up playing it. If it's worse than that I feel sorry for the people who bought it and now feel like they have to defend it.
>>337589592
>set pieces
and there you have it, what i knew he wanted all along. shit where you climb in a giant mech and do qtes. thats what todays gamer wnats
>THIS DOOM GAME IS JUST KILLING ROOM FULLS OF DEMONS ALL THE WAY UP TO THE END
ayy lmao
>>337589592
>variation in setting, set pieces etc.
so you shoot asian guy in south pole instead of white and blacks anbd brown in murica?
>>337572620
So this gets a 7 but call of rehash blops 3 gets a 9? bullshit
IGN and others are booty blasted because no early review copy = less hits to their site.
BTFO
>>337577642
That's not even true. Nothing forces you to engage in melee.
>>337589592
Fuck off
>>337589885
being a slow retard or playing with a gamepad do tho.
>>337586228
it isn't saying much but skyrim is a lot better than FO4
>>337589660
Setpieces aren't just QTEs or giant mechs retard.
>>337576319
Don't listen to these retarded slobs. Why in the fuck would you NOT judge a game before playing it? It's better to know if the game is a waste of money before you buy it, not after.
>>337574418
>>337572620
>>337574710
lol i beat the game in fucking 50 minutes RETARDS
>>337585594
I can also confirm you are a retard and this is pure bullshit. Playing on Ultra-violence and getting by perfectly fine with barely doing any glory kills.
>>337585569
k
>>337591430
Nigger please, try 50 SECONDS.
>>337572784
this is the problem with /v/ and enthusiasts
>>337572620
>What went wrong?
They gave it a much higher score than it deserves.
Be honest lads should I get it? I just played Doom 1 and 2 for the first time months ago and loved them.
>implying IGN isn't just buttblasted that they didn't get the game early but youtubers did
>>337591652
But no one got the game early.
>>337591651
its a good game. if paying $60 for a 9hr campaign doesn't sound like a good value then wait for a sale.
>>337589620
>>337579139
>>337578341
are you faggots 10 or something?
>>337592282
10 inches
>>337592282
Seems like the 10 year old is you. You'd probably hit the funny button if it actually were on Steam.
>>337592282
>why you have fun, wtf!?!?
gr8 b8 m8, i r8 8.8/8.8, now r8 my r8 if ur not too l8
>>337589592
Fuck off toddler
>>337593040
>>337589660
The old Doom games had key card hunts to break up the action, it wasn't a never ending gunfight with no variation in pacing
>>337591618
>game literally called DOOM
>isn't a remake of DooM
Uh hello?
>>337591767
9hrs on easy maybe, I've been 100%ing it on nightmare first time through and it takes 1-3 hours every level
>>337574418
Lmao you fucks don't know how to beat video games. Back in my day, we had real challenge, now I can just go to the options menu and click the credits, and wham I beat the game. I didn't even start it up, and I already finished it. Speedrunners might as well kill themselves now, they can't outclick my record, even with tool assisted help.
Mark these wordsshooter of the fucking yearI don't fucking get you guys, this is EXACTLY what we wanted for fuck sake, disable the melee shit and go have some fun for once.
>>337594129
>this is EXACTLY what we wanted for fuck sake
lmao doomtards actually believe this, can't make this shit up
>>337594254
Salty because you can't pirate the game. Don't worry, I'm sure it'll be on sale in a year or so.
>>337572620
>IGN
IGN gave Wolfenstein The New Order a 7.8/10
Let's stop pretending they know what makes an FPS good. Their review even implies that the original Doom's enemy AI is bad.
>>337578228
These are the console graphics right?
>>337594758
>Their review even implies that the original Doom's enemy AI is bad.
For the time, I thought it was pretty good. Especially the tactical monster infighting.
Does new doom have monster infighting?
>>337595041
Yeah, if you can get them to shoot eachother.
Also sometimes you just catch them doing it. I saw a soldier mow down a bunch of possessed for no reason while I was exploring.
>>337595041
It does. If anything the AI feels very true to the original Doom which the review kind of glosses over. It's less important that the AI is super smart/groups up on you and more deliberate in it's behavior since the game is supposed to be a battle of strafing/on the fly prioritization.
I'm going to assume the reviewer played it on a low difficulty because the game is already a good challenge on Ultra-Violence. It doesn't need any smarter AI to be better.
Haven't played yet, and plan to as soon as we can get a crack.
But from watching even the higher difficulty playthroughs, it seems like the game boils down to picking single targets, shoot while charging, and then finisher for the bonus goodies and brief invulnerability. Doesn't look like you're really "dueling" with enemies or groups of them, aside from the bosses.
Thoughts, from anyone that's played?
>>337572620
>glory kills in the game at all
>chainsaw completely fucked up, can't just cut through a group like butter
>shitty color pallet
>no cool textures like corpse and intestine walls
>hell is just a muddy cave
>BAZINGA BABABABABA
Could have been worse, could have been better
Best part about doom was the cool blue carpeting, prove me wrong
>>337596419
>shitty color pallet
>no cool textures like corpse and intestine walls
Maaan cmon, at least finish the game
>>337578985
Wait. Are you complaining that the difficult is too HARD without melee kills?
>>337595830
My own experience playing is that you get put into a room with a bunch of enemies, a lot of them are throwing projectiles at you so you have to plan your movements so you don't end up strafing into a fireball, and pick priority targets like is it more important right now to take out the revenant or the hell knight depending on what weapon I'm using and what else I have ammo for, wrong move at any movement equals nearly instant death on nightmare but it never feels unfair.
I really think Doom 2016's nightmare mode is the perfect example of how to put difficulty in an fps, you're in constant danger but the danger is never cheap, not dying is 100% skill based and just requires spacial perception, good reactions, and making the right decisions.
I think its good. The glory kills are dumb but otherwise it's fun.
>>337572620
AAA fps tried to drop story for gameplay
>>337595830
>as soon as we can get a crack.
denuvo bruh
>>337596419
>BAZINGA BABABABABA
What?
>>337597224
he's mixing up his memes, new douk will have him say bazinga
I really like that the "intro cinematic" is just 10 seconds of this logo while a random voiceover says THEY ARE RAGE, BRUTAL, WITHOUT MERCY, BUT YOU WILL BE WORSE. RIP AND TEAR UNTIL IT IS DONE.
>>337597224
Wait a minute that card
>>337597513
Finally, a fast game for fast gamers!
Reminder that IGN gave a RAGE a 8.5, so they are essentially saying that DOOM is significantly worse.
>>337595830
Glory kills do not make you invulnerable. neither does the chainsaw. I've gotten killed a few times trying to do both in the middle of a battle, so that adds a layer of strategy to it, even if it is kind of a shallow gimmick.
Although, a chainsaw does seem to be a one shot kill kind of thing. I prefer it over "touch enemy with chainsaw and it just statically animates while the enemy loses hp". My ideal scenario would be a "wounding" mechanic where you could dismember demons without killing them.
>>337597969
Glory Kills do have a good amount of invincibilty. However, they also have a brief recovery window where said invincibility is gone, essentially making you a stationary target. In a game like Doom, that's the last thing you want.
>>337597969
>New doom with dismemberment like MG:R
FUG
>>337597969
You are completely invulnerable during a chainsaw or glory kill.
The problem is that you cease being invulnerable the instant the animation finishes, and since monsters continue to attack during the animation some of them may be mid-swing or mid-shot when that happens.
>>337578985
That's why easier difficulties are there, for people like you who can't git gud.
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>>337585569
one of the doom bobbleheads is keen colors, yellow helmet and purple armor
>>337597727
People like you are why IGN still exists
Cant we all collectively stop visiting the site and without the revenue they will die.
It'll be our little secret
