why do japs hate graphics?
wabi sabi
i think a better question here would be:
>"why do women complain about equality when men arent equal 2 women in terms of what gets their dick(s) hard or not hard???"
KERSPLAT!
It's made for a handheld system. What's your point
>>337558305
Actually, this is a perfect answer. Goddamn.
>>337558305
kek
>>337558194
cause they weren't brainwashed by their movie industry to only desire realistic angry bald men
>>337558573
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX_Hr_saNLE
>>337558565
KERPOW!
Fun Fact: Croc started development as a 3D Yoshi platformer, but they lost the rights and made him into a crocodile.
>>337558194
That literally just happens with nintendo
>>337558194
buy a vita if you care about graphics
buy a 3DS if you care about games
WHATS THE GAME ON THE LEFT
YOU HAVE TO TELL ME PLEASE
>S-stupid Western Indie Devs and their stupid pixel shit
>You'd never see glorious nippon indie devs resorting to such trash
>>337559131
Croc. Read the thread.
>>337559131
Gex
>>337559223
Thanks friendo.
This game has been on the end of my tounge for months, ivr been wanting to replay it.
>>337559131
Croc: Legend of the Gobbos
Something like that
>>337558573
And this was made for a phone
>>337559284
you will be disappointed
it's one of those games that's somehow remembered as good despite being pretty poor
>>337559112
Haha so funney nogaems maymay
>>337559383
for fucks sake man.
I was hoping that wasnt the case, you are right though.
>>337559001
But that game is japanese too.
>>337558194
why would they waste time and effort making the graphics better when ignorant consumers will buy it regardless?
>>337559421
I don't play anime games sorry, I have standards. Anime games are almost worse than pixel indieshit, Nintendo baby games, and Call of Duty. Almost.
>>337559421
i've already played most of those games though, and i don't care about the rest
>BUH BUH BUT IT'S HANDHELD!
>>337560498
>I have standards
Kek have a (you)
>>337559173
Kero Blaster is excellent. Wish they put it on the 3DS like with Cave Story.
>>337559173
God fuck playing Kero Blaster on mobile.
Great game though!
>>337560498
>almost
most are press a button and watch a mini-cutscene over and over
>>337559421
>Bloating the list with ports, shittiest versions of a multiplat, weeb shovelware and visual novels
Sonyggers in charge of not grasping at straws
it's simple, the retards still buy it
>>337559173
Find me a better looking western made phone game
>>337561042
Not saying they are up to par with a real controller but Kero Blaster's mobile controls are by far some of the best you can find on mobile. The gear shift to fire is genius.
>>337561870
Aww that's just cruel.
The dressed up the downie kid and forced her to embarrass herself on stage.
Same reason they hate a proper art style and gameplay. Takes too much time, skill, and money to make. Rather just regurgitate the same shit for decades and draw everyone the same, but sell anyways because you pander to permavirgin weebs who get off to daggerchins and bug eyes.
>>337561870
>that mouth animation
horrendous, what platform is this?
>>337558194
Gameplay > Art Style > Music > Story > Graphics
That said, gameplay of pokemon is fucking shit
Croc is fucking garbage
and the sequel is even worse
>that level theme is now playing in your head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmQu430HStE
>>337562563
it's actually Music > gameplay > artstyle > story > graphics
this is not an opinion your post was.
>>337558194
Now compare the total amount of content of said games.
>>337559421
kek, nice padding. Notice no one needs to dump VC titles into their 3DS lists.
>>337562692
So music albums can be better games than games?
>>337562563
>implying bad graphics ("game juice" specifically) don't make a significant impact on the gameplay
>>337562737
>i dont understand how well thought off music based on the games composition have a better impact on a game can save it from being shit.
And i'm not refering to orchestra. You haven't played enough games, kiddo.
>>337562767
graphics are only relevant in certain cases
you dont need to spend excessive amounts of time/budget on graphics because it wont make a difference once the shock wears off e.g any dice game
>>337562767
Good graphics can enhance gameplay just like music and story can. But good art style is better for this than pure graphics.
For example, highfidelity realistic graphics wouldn't fit something like Tales of games. Pic related.
>>337562870
Good music doesn't make a bad gameplay good. It can only make it slightly less shit.
>>337562870
Examples of games that got saved from being shit with good music?
>>337563240
FF8
it would have been dire without all that GOAT music
>>337563240
god eater, lame mh clone with hack n slash shit and fapbait that only got saved thanks to its soundtrack, and i'm not mentioning the ps3 psvita ones, absolute 10/10 made me finish it.
>>337563481
>>337563357
Those are booth putrid shit games. No music makes up for that.
>>337563240
literally touhou
>>337558194
Is that some motherfucking croc I see?
>>337558487
>muh dick
>>337563564
>i played these games and they're absolute shit
>>337563802
Because if I didn't, some autismal weebfaggotry like you would cry "YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED IT, YOU DON'T KNOW IT'S SHIT!"
>>337563884
prove it
>>337558194
GAZOOM
>>337563357
Niggah, I love FF8 but the music doesn't make the combat any better. IS the music good? Yes and it makes for hype battles but the combat is still absolute dog shit.
I do like the customization aspect of FF8's system though.
>>337559131
Spyro The Dragon 5: Eat Fresh.
>>337558194
because handcrafted graphics. they still care about detail and design. thats it.
>>337559343
Rekt.
But the guy you replied to will argue
>3DS isn't a $500 phone!
Ok, so why do PSP games from fucking 2004 look better? That was a handheld and was in the same price range of 3DS
>>337558194
gamefreak can't into 3d
thats why pokemon was 2d for 20 years
>>337566464
They didn't work on the Pokemon stadium/coliseum games?
>>337559131
You fucking underage faggot please kill yourself.
>>337566549
no
the ones who made the stadium games were HAL laboratories and nintendo
same people who made melee
>>337566549
Genius sorority
>>337558194
>>337560616
How the fuck does that game look so good but every other 3DS game looks like garbage?
>>337566774
Oh right right. Speaking of which, what the hell is this
>>337566464
This. I wouldn't care if they just jumped ship back to 2D but it's too late now, let's hope they start learning though.
>>337566775
genius sorority made coloseum andXD
>>337566863
a dog with its eggs, duh
>>337566905
>XD
get out
>>337566787
>>337566787
It's basically not even the same genres anymore.
it used to be focused on storytelling. Now it's focused on specific anime trope, in the hope that the new established NEET demographic will buy it.
I've never cared much about graphics on handhelds, I want seamless gameplay without loadtimes and that gameplay happens without stuttering.
Even then, remember that FFT PSP abomination that had to be patched by an outside group? God that was horrible, glad I went with Tactics Ogre to begin with.
>>337566963
no u
>>337566905
>XD
Go back to gaia
Is croc 2 worth it?
>>337566787
Who is that on the left and can I fuck her.
>>337567001
Been literally years since anyone has said this to me. You ruined my fucking streak.
>>337566332
but Sony are japs too
>>337567029
Croc 2, from memory, was really good compared to 1. I haven't played it since I was little so it might actually be hot trash.
>>337567015
why does this game trigger you autist so much?
>>337567046
Says her name is カオル right there.
>>337558194
I know this is a shitposting thread and I know game freak is incredibly incompetent but I just wanted to point out that the pokemon picture is from the beta/alpha footage.
>>337567132
What does XD stand for anyway? Extra dimension? Or is it one of those nonsensical "wow letters" jap things?
>>337567132
>XD
>>337567237
Extra darkness I think?
>>337567237
Extra Dimension, if you go off the blurb.
>>337567237
What's DX?
>>337567132
It's a me me you silly
>>337567029
Don't play it in todays age. All aspects are aged in respect to more modern game mechanics.
It was the best at the time but now it isn't even worth mentioning.
>>337567413
Director's Cut
>>337567413
Deluxe Extra
I tried replaying Croc but it just felt so slow and boring. Now I'd rather watch someone else play it for me.
>>337559343
To be fair Infinity Blade's combat is practically a Rhythm game without music and everything is pre-rendered without there being a whole lot of content to explore.
>>337558194
Nintendo hates graphics, specifically. Fuck the 3DS.
That said in general they definitely care less about graphics, which I'm fine with.
>>337567413
Dicking Xenophobes
>>337561176
Kill yourself.
>>337559173
>I-it's only okay when e-eastern indie d-devs do it!!!
>>337567132
It's a meme newfag
>>337567132
it's a fucking joke, anon
>>337558194
Nice try OP, but D+ for effort.
>>337566787
What pisses me off more is the distinct lack of proper cutscenes now in JRPGs. It's all just cut away to a separate screen and have the scene go in in there while they essentially move around what's essentially on a separate stage to the game it fucking pisses me off.
>>337566854effort
This was a terrible """"art style""""
The new Zelda already looks a million times better to me.
>>337558573
>because its a handheld system
Pic related is a psp game from 2007
>>337559343
When did phone games get good graphics?
>>337559421
Look at all that weeb shit
>>337559421
I would like to play something other than generic weebshit
>>337558194
First link console japanese game like FF XV rather than handheld then we can talk.
>gamefreak
theres the reason
>>337559343
>game
Its a glorified movie. Mobile "games" are trash. There's a reason nobody ever plays them.
>>337572284
>implying
Let me see you do this then.
>>337566787
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLf9oWUe2fc
>>337569782
That's a Dolphin filter you dingaling
>>337559421
Why would I pay good money for weeb shit and ports?
That and at least shit like pokemon and Mario are mainstream enough to where I can bring it up in casual conversation without looking like a dateless virgin.
>>337572528
my fingers too greasy to hit with that kind of accuracy senpai
>>337567132
It's a meme, newfriend.
>>337562692
>music>gameplay
In a fucking video game
Kill yourself
>>337558194
Gamefreak sucks.
Japs can be very good with graphics. See: Square
>>337558573
XY looks awful even for a 3DS game.
All jap funding goes into the production of waifu material.
>>337558194
I miss Croc, not the best of them but still my favorite.
>>337562767
I've played games that looked like absolute fucking trash yet I've still beaten them because the gameplay was solid.
I mean fuck, I still find myself playing most low-poly 3D games like Crash Bandicoot or Super Mario 64 over the latest AAA garbage titles simply because the only point most modern games have is graphics and nothing else.
>>337572936
>XY looks awful even for a 3DS game.
It's even more embarrassing when they intentionally left the 3D off because they presumably couldn't hit a stable 30.
Meanwhile Triple Deluxe is rocking a solid 60 with the 3D on and it STILL looks better.
>>337562870
Fucking Sonic '06 has amazing music (in fact, good music is the only thing that Sonic has any claim to nowadays) yet the game itself was shitty enough to tank the franchise until Sonic Colors came out.
The rule of thumb is, if I can go on something like youtube or wikipedia and experience the same thing without even having to touch the gameplay, then it's probably not THAT important.
>>337572528
Damn, I want to have 3 thumbs too.
>>337559001
why do people pretend this game looks amazing? it doesn't even look as good as the normal monster hunter games on 3ds
>>337571189
>flat as hell lighting without any shading at all
>no shadows
>no shininess
You're confusing good art direction for good graphics.
>>337558305
/thread
The simple reason is because Japanese developers who can make good game engines no longer exist.
It's not just games, when was the last time you used some kind of software that you really liked that was Japanese?
Here's a really popular Japanese e-commerce website, for example: http://kakaku.com/
Caring so much about keeping up with Joneses in terms of graphical power is a large portion of why AAA games are now so bloated and dull. The art style matters, and insofar as a system has to be able to render the art direction effectively power matters too, but the obsession over it is tedious.
>>337574043
How the fuck did Japanese web design never progress beyond the 90s anyway?
>>337566787
What's the game on the left?
>>337574239
Japanese software has never progressed beyond the 90s. They have a kind of fundamental misunderstanding regarding how software development works. Here's the kind of software running in their cars:
http://www.safetyresearch.net/blog/articles/toyota-unintended-acceleration-and-big-bowl-%E2%80%9Cspaghetti%E2%80%9D-code
>>337558194
Because they got nuked so now all their brains are fucked up
I thought it was quite the opposite, look at FFXIII. Shit game, with too much focus on graphics.
>>337567650
>Nintendo goes on record of saying they don't give a fuck about graphics
>Most Nintendo games run at a steady 60 fps and look gorgeous for the hardware they're on.
Meanwhile
>Sony and M$ front load their game's budget with "graphics" and "advertisements"
>Can't release a game that runs at a steady 30 fps.
art style > graphic fidelity
Something like Gunstar Heroes or Yoshi's Island is more aesthetically pleasing to look at than Uncharted 4 or Star Wars: Battlefront.
>>337573058
The fps only dips in battles because the pokemon models have ludicrously high number of polygons.
All the pokemon models are really detailed. They future proofed them and didn't scale them back. They will be using the same ones for likely the next few generations.
>>337574532
Meanwhile at gamefreak
>Looks awful for the hardware
>can't even hold a stable 30 fps
>can't turn on 3D on the overworld
If only Pokemon moved to a competent developer.
>>337574532
Some games don't run at 60, but it's a complete lie to say that none do.
That's just going to be the case when you have 20 games for every one Nintendo game.
>>337574676
>>337574720
I think they just figured a stable framerate wasn't important in a turn based game targeted at children and said fuck it.
When was the last time a 10 year old kid complained about frame pacing anyway?
>>337566854
Lots of doors and small rooms to cordon off loading and rendering
>>337558305
Shiggity shiggity shwah
>>337574812
>posting shit plebijo girl
>>337559025
Shut up Cadicarus
>>337575235
shut the fuck up you smug cunt
>>337558305
I dont get it.
>>337562870
Yeah Sonic 06 is a fucking masterpiece
>>337574812
Listen friend, even for the games that were designed in-house, most of the games still can't stay at 30 fps consistently.
I mean fuck, when was the last time you saw a PS4 or Xbone game stay at 30 fps all throughout?
One, two, maybe four games out of the dozens that have been released for the fucking things so far?
Meanwhile, most Nintendo games released are fairly good looking games. I don't even like smash or mario games anymore but the fact that I can play them for the most part and not have the quality dropping like a shitty youtube video just for turning around like in Fallout 4 is pretty fucking welcome in what's supposed to be "next gen" gaming.
>>337572731
That was a promotional screenshot
>>337575360
Getting mad only means you're losing the argument!
>>337575563
The oldest sister is the hot one.
>>337575176
guess what idiot
>>337574859
Pretty stupid though considering the difference between Gen 3 and Gen 4 engines is night and day.
>>337575616
This.
>>337571189
Around the same time they started having shitty battery lives.
>>337575676
night and day was already in gen 2 though, it's just a feature that skipped gen 3
>>337561870
good example of graphics being more important to the wankers who play this rather than the actual gameplay.
>>337561870
>>337575616
>>337575691
That's fine since I'm way cooler than her!
>>337558194
>comparing a console game with a handheld one
I remember when this place used to try
>>337572528
give me a controller or some other form of physical buttons and 2 beer and I'll do it
>>337575847
Harr harr
>>337575691
I'm going to second that. I'd still DOKKAAN inside Hanabi though. Kafuru should have been aborted.
>>337558573
>>337573058
The 3DS is underpowered anyway, but the method of 3D is also unnecessarily taxing because of multi-rendering.
Graphics often get in the way of good gameplay imo.
For example, all of the old 2D Mario titles play so much better than the NSMB games.
>>337575371
Google it you spoon-needing motherfucker. Absolute perfect answer to this thread.
>>337575958
Protip: that says "VR Display", but that's literally just a light by the face to track positioning.
The webm title is "your screen is now 3D", because it is with that.
>>337567665
why would japan dick themselves
>>337572814
>talking about Mario and Pokemon won't make you look like a virgin
wew lad
>>337575958
All 3d/VR must be done with multirendering. That technique you just posted is simply moving the camera using eye tracking.
>>337575456
Kill yourself nintoddler.
>>337576083
Pokemon is ridiculously popular with college age people
>>337558194
The right image is from Pokemon, pretty shitty to complain about graphics.
>>337558194
Probably the same reason they like bright technicolors and anime: simplicity just resonates with their emotional side easier.
>>337575903
The only thing cool about Kafuru is her dolphin, she's pretty shit by herself.
![nRkB5A2[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/TwkY0B5.png "nRkB5A2[1].png")
>>337558194
Its cause Gamefreak can't into game engines.Pic related, why does charizard require that many triangles? Going to laugh if they can't even hit 60fps on the New 3DS, meanwhile MH4 can easily do it with minor slowdown in heavy action scenes.
>>337575371
It's basically the idea that the world is beautiful because it's imperfect and incomplete.
>>337576159
Yeah, and it still gives a 3d effect without rendering half the screen in a flashing gimmick.
>>337558305
Depth? In /v/? Why I never
>>337576235
And most college people are manchilds
Your point?
>>337576314
To keep the models looking smooth
>>337576557
Most people who play video games are manchilds.
>>337566332
>Ok, so why do PSP games from fucking 2004 look better?
they do not. Sorry.
>>337576312
>isn't a slut like Renka
>isn't retarded like Hanabi
>smart
>mature
>cool
>wins every argument
>has a talking inflatable dolphin
It's okay anon, not everybody can be Kafuru
>>337575371
Aqua Teen Hunger Force reference.
>>337576314
They probably tried to future proof the models for efficient rehashing when they get better hardware to work with. What irritates me more about their models is how devoid of personality they are. The stadium/Colosseum models were full of character in comparison.
>>337559425
Disregard >>337559383 he is a cuck.
Croc plays as well as any other 3D Platformer during its era. Combined with Gex, these games are fucking gold and fun to play as, especially with all the secrets.
![zuEDBAH[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/XpNyQne.png "zuEDBAH[1].png")
>>337576673
Keep it smooth and drop to less than 30 fps. You don't need to have 'high' poly models to make something amazing. Meanwhile Smash 3ds runs at a stable 60fps without dropping by uisng LOD swithching, Face it gamefreak are pretty awful when making engines.
>>337576314
What do you want them to do, make the battle backgrounds more detailed and make the Pokemon look like shit? You're only going to see that model during fights. Two models like that in a simple arena can't possibly be more demanding than full 3D levels from other games.
>>337576314
That charizard mesh looks good tho. I think you re making the mistake of assuming that just cause the style is simpler, they need less polygons. That jellyebean look is important to the style, and they will use as many polys as needed to achieve it. Plus is not like 60fps matter at all in RPGs (unless it triggers your autism)
>>337574812
Jesus, that webm is fucking disgusting
>>337558194
They can't afford to employ/contract 100+ artists per game unless it's something that sells in the west like Final Fantasy or Metal Gear.
>>337577117
>60 FPS is disgusting
>>337577065
That's the thing its usually two models in a simple field, but for some reason the frame rate still dips.
>>337576840
>>337558194
Because gameplay/story/fun>graphics
Something western shitters don't understand so they make "realistic" games that are literally the same game over and over. With QTE.
>>337559112
>3ds
>games
I do not compute
>>337577158
>b-but my frames, graphics don't matter!
wwwww
>>337558194
Pretty Graphics are a crutch for shitty game developers.
![screen-93[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eSohVyb.jpg "screen-93[1].jpg")
>>337577094
The major complaint with 2d pokemon games was that they felt slow. This gen its been improved, but when you have smash brothers running at 60fps that has more hectic battles and around the same poly count per model, just shows how unfamiliar gamefreak is with 3d.
>>337577291
That's not exactly better.
Because Japan understands that gameplay is more important then eye-candy.
I miss sprites
>What is Square Enix
Japs caused /v/idya to be ruined by graphics.
>>337558305
>wabi sabi
just an excuse for laziness
>>337559001
>THAT THUMB
WHAT
WHAT
WHAT
>>337577503
The psp had a really shitty screen resolution.
>>337577468
Well they've spent the last 20 years making the same exact game with a few tweaks. Of course they're not familiar with 3d.
>>337577468
theyre shit at 2d as well
>>337577468
Polygon counts mean less nowadays than shader and bitmap densities and what not. Pokemon has tons of transparent special effects layered right on top of each other. Im not saying that gamefreak is a 3D master, but I would be willing to bet that 30fps is necessary to keep the cartoon look they want, with all this effects.
>>337577631
But the PSP had some damn good games.
Name a single genre of video game that benefited from the 2D - 3D jump
>>337577631
3DS can accomplish graphics like this though. Most likely GameFreak can't into 3D games.
>>337562767
Mount and Blade is hideous, even with the most intensive of visual modifications, and yet it is probably my favorite video game, because the Gameplay is fucking outstanding. There are insanely rare cases where superior gameplay is muddled by inferior graphics unless you're a retard obsessed with graphics. This comes from a weeb who buys every copy of Dynasty Warriors, Monster Hunter Clones (and MH as well), Disgaea, and other garbage because they are fun.
>>337572528
Looks like moeshit tap tap revenge
>>337577893
3DS is superior to PSP in terms of hardware capabilities in every way. It's Gamefreak.
>>337577867
Mario games, racers (all of them), and that's it. I'm still made about KOF
>>337577867
Doom->Quake.
>>337577867
u're mom LMAO
![33170_1387986399[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0B5WP84.jpg "33170_1387986399[1].jpg")
>>337577785
It's pretty bad when you got games like Monster Hunter Stories/Generations and Yokai Watch running at 60fps and looking better..
>30fps is necessary to keep the cartoon look they want, with all this effects.
Lol, Gamefreak are just bad.
>>337577867
RPGs, Shooters, Racing, Sports, possibly Fighters. You didn't really think about it much, did you?
>>337558194
They don't, they just don't have much money to sink into them. Also, Japs probably wouldn't appreciate it much. Hence why they're still playing the height of autistic shit like Pokemon two decades later.
>>337577867
I vastly prefer 3d marios over the 2d ones.
>>337578108
Pretty sure MH Generations is locked at 30 FPS because of all the extra flashy effects they added for it. Also people claim that MH4U and MH3U are 60FPS on 3DS but it's not actually true, they're more like 45-55 FPS.
>>337577993
It's not GameFreak.
>Make a shitty game for the millionth time for the cheapest possible
>Tens of millions of retards buy it every single time
Where's the motivation?
>>337566787
>What went wrong?
The consumers. Nobody makes garbage on the right because they believe it's high quality. They made it that way because it's comically easy to mass-produce, sells insanely easily to the common otaku who lacks any form of taste, and is equally easily marketed. Showing off the girl on the left involves understanding her relevance to the story, who she is, and from what I've seen, we even see that she's a bashful otaku loser, much like the player on the opposite end of the screen. How the fuck do you market that, while competing with "These moe catgirl-meido-chan's all love their Nii-sama! You are the best! $12.99!"?
>>337578121
lol what the fuck does fightan gain? sprite based fighting games have superior clarity and are easier to maintain good performance
>>337578225
You're right on with generations, blunder of the century because the effects they added don't improve shit.
>>337578219
>They don't, they just don't have much money to sink into them.
>gamefreak
>owners of the biggest cash cow in the industry
>doesn't have the money to sink into graphics
No, it's just incompetence/laziness.
>>337577631
But screen resolutions like that were fairly standard at the time. The standard DPI at the time was 72, now there really is no standard. Fucking 1920x1080 screens in 4in x 3in spaces.
hello
this is grandfather
regards
style is more important than technical realism. I hate American games with brown and black colour palettes, unless they're horror games
>>337578328
Yeah, the PSP is really good hardware for its time.
>>337578225
That's great, but I'd rather have a drop from 60 to 50 on a game that has a lot more action compared that can also be rendered in 3d if you want (lol), than a game that can't even handle 30fps or even the 3d feature at all.
They should just go back to 2D static sprites. They should just go back to fucking 2D everything
>>337578317
3d allows modern fighting games to actually exist and not cost 6 trillion dollars to develop sprites for
>>337578320
Personally I'm not really a fan of most of the Generations-specific stuff... styles, supers, prowler mode, and the extra anime flashiness in general I could all do without. But it looks like it'll have overall a superior monster roster than 4U and it probably wouldn't be very hard for it to have a superior endgame than 4U (guild quests pls go) so it should still be good, plus most of those Generations-specific features are pretty easy to ignore and probably won't carry forward into MH5 so it's no big deal.
>>337578494
My comments were not made to defend Game Freak's incompetence when it comes to programming and optimization, I'm only making corrections.
>>337558194
They love gameplay
>>337578650
And yet SFV released without a working arcade mode, while costing $80 or $120 with season pass. Wtf capcom.
>>337578342
dont answer him
>>337558305
lel
>>337578834
>while costing $80 or $120 with a season pass
Interesting, because I bought it for $30 at launch and currently own all the characters for free.
I'm not saying SF didn't botch it's launch but god this single player content is the most important content meme needs to end
Also the alternative is to have 5 versions of the same sprite based fighter with slight tweaks between games and maybe an added character.
>>337578984
ładny obrazek z fejsbuczka ty kurwa raku
>>337579530
You realize those free characters will go away once they figure out how to make a cash shop?
>>337579652
Doesn't matter since I have enough fight money to buy them right now without spending a real life cent.
>>337558194
Why should they sacrifice time and effort for nice graphics if they can't see them with their slit eyes
>>337558194
Don't forget to add the most recent "major selling" Monster Hunter game to this thread.
