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https://arcadegirl64.wordpress.com/2016/05/13/so-about-nx/
Emily Rogers blog.
>In terms of raw power, numerous sources tell me that NX is much closer to Xbox One than PlayStation 4. Even that might be stretching it a tiny bit
>There will be plenty of debates over the NX’s specs because it’s not simple to directly compare two apples (with x86 architecture) to an orange (that doesn’t use x86 architecture). But everything that I’ve heard (so far) indicates that NX isn’t going to blow away any of the consoles on the market today…except for Wii U.
So yup , Nintendo goes Nintendo. Discuss
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>>337523375
Daily reminder for the "non believers".
>>337523375
Is this that retard who makes "predictions" and deletes ones that end up being wrong?
Not giving a pageview.
>>337523375
It'sover.jsperg
>>337523375
It would jive with my theory that the NX is less powerful than the PS4.5 and Neo and that is why it isn't going to be at E3. Nintendo has a ton of floor space to only be showing one game. t really feels like they meant to show the system and backed out because they are going to get upstaged by their competitors.
Could a company blunder more?
>>337523375
So now that is "confirmed" , what is going to be the gimmick this time?
Console comes with the handheld?
>closer to Xbox One than PS4
>implying the power gap between Xbox One and PS4 is even that big to begin with
>>337523758
>Instead of Zelda, Nintendo dedicates their E3 to Mighty No. 9
>Xbox one tier in terms of powerful
>Bad
Huh?
Also
>Emily Rogers
>Relevant
My fucking sides.
>>337524005
Is this what Microshills believe?
>>337523479
A Japanese publication leaked that news. Gonna need some more convincing.
>>337523672
Well, yeah. Nintendo gives out these little teases about their new system, and right about when it's too late for Nintendo to start changing the spects as pre-production has already begun BAM! Sony announces an upgraded PS4 with 4K resolution (to go with the 4K Blu-Rays now on market) and higher specs, with Microsoft hot on their heels.
You better believe it was deliberately timed. Sony wants Nintendo out of the hardware market and into the Software market, a la SEGA & SNK.
>>337524205
No. It's what everyone knows.
>>337523672
Nintendo still maintains the narrative that they aren't competing with Xbox and Playstation. I can't tell if that's bullshit they tell their investors so they can keep turning out cheap gimmicks, or if they're really that arrogant. If it's the latter then things are really going to get bad for them soon.
>>337524035
I can't tell if I would find that hilarious, or horrifying.
Why are we listening to Emily Rogers now?
>>337524005
Actually, it is.
>>337524205
Anon, the power gap might be there, but they both get the same games at what is relatively the same quality. It wouldn't be such a bad thing if the NX was on that level, at least in the short-term.
Why does nintendo hate money so much
>>337524640
because she was right with other things. If you want to be a fanboy or deluded go to another thread.
Because this shit screams Nintendo in every part. Also remember Iwata worked on NX so this thing is pausible as fuck.
J U S T
>You are now Reggie and have the job of convincing people to buy an NX
>>337524673
>It wouldn't be such a bad thing if the NX was on that level, at least in the short-term.
But that's the problem. The "short term" is already over, Microsoft and Sony are about to roll out even better consoles just before NX comes out.
>>337524814
>because she was right with other things.
And has been wrong with other things. Her track record is too spotty to just blindly belief.
Of course, /v/ believed that controller "leak", so I shouldn't be surprised you'll believe any rumor that sounds believable. Enjoy your thread.
NX could be double the power as a PS4 and it still won't sell as long as it doesn't have game.
>>337524005
>Even saying its close to Xbone is stretching it a tiny bit
So its fucking nothing yet again.
Keep sucking nintendos dick you anime posting faggot
>>337523375
who cares as long as the games are good. I'll take another fucking ds if it means the game quality takes a huge hike in design quality.
>>337524673
>but they both get the same games at what is relatively the same quality
>Multiple XB1 ports run at 920p with bad frame rates
>PS4 versions run at 1080p with a more stable frame rate
>The NX is weaker than the XB1
>>337525012
I believe he was sucking Microsoft's dick, Anon.
>>337524664
No it's not. It's marginally bigger than the 360 and PS3 gap, and we know what that meant, right?
Exactly. Worse ports on the PS3.
>>337525012
Why is she sucking on his belly button?
According to semiaccurate, it is most likely a Tegra solution, which probably indicates that NX will be a portable system.
Not a DS small one, something more akin to a tablet sized beast to handle the 10-15 watts a tegra system needs.
So we're talking about a portable that is slightly faster than the Xbone here, that later in life will get pokemon.
>>337525060
>who cares as long as the games are good
Everyone except braindead Nintendrones.
>>337523375
>Weaker than PS4
>3.5 years later
Kek. Bye, Nintendo.
>>337525060
WiiU was literally a DS in a living room and that never happened
>>337525090
Except the PS4 is getting better versions of games because it's the more popular system? Take Dark Souls 3, for example.
>>337524842
Oh, that's easy. I'm gonna shit on my core fans and cater to the casual audience. And then I will pretend like nothing happened and Nintendo still respects their core fans.
>>337524842
"Just play the system."
Power means nothing.
Nintendo will make nintendo games and survive, they don't need 3rd party.
>>337525137
PS4 owners don't have cocks
>>337523375
I don't care if NX has two r390x in it for $500. Nintendo of America are cancer and I am not supporting them any more.
Emily Rogers is almost always wrong, and has been since Wii U launched.
>>337524842
"I'll include a gallon container filled to the brim with my own fresh semen to the first 9,800,000,000 people who buy an NX!!!"
>>337525197
Except we don't know if it's a handheld or console yet. There have been countless claims it's one or the other, with official statements from publishers and developers leaning closer to "home console" than portable.
If it's a handheld, that absolutely changes everything.
>>337525331
>Censor countless games for a child market that doesn't exist
>Most gamers are adults
They have no idea what they're doing. I'm so happy Wii U and 3DS hacking is a thing now.
>>337525391
Yeah, you're right. The WiiU is a huge success even without those 3rd party games.
>>337525391
They did that with the Wii U and it sold less than the Virtual Boy, anon.
All that matters is 3rd party if they will not work with Nintendo, NX is DOA.
>>337525512
Does the Wii U have a homebrew channel yet?
>>337525391
Except the Wii U alone proves that none of this is true in the current console market.
>>337525549
>huge success
>>337525624
3rd Party working with Nintendo means power is what matters, if it isn't x86, Nintendo truly fucked this up.
Is Nintendo retarded? I mean assuming this is true, what are they hoping to accomplish?
>buy our weak console again
>it won't have third parties again
>and our games are so simplistic that they can easily continue running on the wii u.
>we are pretty much making glorified indie games at this point and charge $60+ tip for them
>so buy our next console because we want you to, not because you'll benefit from it in any way.
>>337525549
Its not that bad, they're still making profits.
>>337524842
Easy, just keep doing what he's always been doing
I just spout memes through the entire E3 hope the userbase laugh and idolize me like they always do. That translates to sales, right?
>>337525639
No, but you can play pirated games and what not.
>>337525090
No, it's real. The PS3/360 gap was debatable, because the PS3 was such a different and PITA architecture to actually utilize. It could be more powerful if a dev really focused, but most devs want to do easy multiplats, so ports tended to suffer.
But the PS4 and xbone are the same basic arch, they're both PCs with UMA basically. But the PS4 has more GPU and faster memory, because Sony devoted more budget to silicon, while Microsoft devoted more budget to Kinect. It's like comparing two otherwise identical PCs where one a GTX 960 and the other has a 970. One is simply more powerful, and it's super easy for devs to take advantage. GPU scaling is utterly trivial, every engine since forever does it.
It's 100% Microsoft's fault frankly, they should have crushed Sony in power because unlike Sony they could afford to subsidize at the start. If they hadn't gone for the expensive Kinect gimmick and put it all into silicon instead, they'd have SLAUGHTERED Sony. No contest. Sony did a fine, solid job with the PS4, learning painful nasty lessons from the PS3, but "that's it", they didn't do anything brilliant. They just were simply competent. That shouldn't have resulted in such a dominating performance, but it did.
Sony's success this round is less down to them, though I do give them credit for actually simply being decent, and more due to Nintendo and Microsoft fucking up so badly. They should have just, you know, made a fucking vidya console with no pricey bullshit, the end. This shouldn't be so fucking hard.
>>337525623
No, it outsold the Virtual Boy. Do you actually think that the VB sold over 14 million units?
>>337525549
PS4 is a huge success without games so anything can happen.
>>337525737
You will buy it because that's how you get Zelda, hope this helps.
Lol who cares about WiiU hacking at this point.
The thing is about 8 months away from being perfectly emulated.
>>337525701
You don't actually think that I was serious, do you?
>>337523375
This makes sense
Kimishima said that they are expecting to not to lose money with NX.
Still, gg Nintendo.
>>337524842
>w-we'll let you buy the uncensored versions of games as DLC!
>Amiibo-exclusive DLC, that is!
>>337525737
nintoddlers will still go apeshit over being apart of this sinking ship called Nintendo
>>337525842
>pc fags actually believe this
Have fun with no online play
Whats the point of this garbage hardware arms race
Absolutely no game this gen uses the power to actually deliver games that wouldnt be possible on the previous one.
Now Nintendo is gonna bring out a new system which will lead to even slower development times for their first party games while retards buy the Piss4 Neon to play their Uncharted garbage at 1080p but 20fps.
We all lose with this.
>>337525484
It's a massive pile of rumors and speculations, and as far we know, it could be very well a cluster of atari jaguars on a chip.
>>337525758
I think I'll hold off just a bit. I have the files downloaded, but I'm a bit of a klutz when it comes to tech stuff.
I was able to mod my Wii, but I just know I'd fuck up modding my PSP, if that tells you anything.
Sad thing was that back in school I knew so much about computers and how they operated people thought I was "a hacker".
Old age sucks.
>>337525768
Doesnt matter
the only reason xbone sold less was because of their fuck up with used games and shit tv stuff
nothing to do with power gaps
>>337525969
Actually Sony gains, because imbeciles keep buying PS4's that require all day long to download a game or update.
>>337525960
>Have fun with no online play
Lol, oh no!
>Meanwhile people played online with Wii emulation
>>337525512
What the fuck happened at NoA?
One minute they are advertising Bayonetta 2 and Splatoon with Playboy girls. Next minute they are censoring the fuck out of EVERYTHING.
>>337526038
Yeah I'm really glad that the worst company benefits the most right there.
>>337525969
>Absolutely no game this gen uses the power to actually deliver games that wouldnt be possible on the previous one
Someone hasn't played Uncharted 4.
>>337523375
who is this quote on quote Emily Rogers and what does she do?
>>337524814
>because she was right with other things
http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=179316#p647460
http://wiiudaily.com/2014/02/emily-rogers-ubisoft-watch-dogs/
People forget that an Intelligent Systems developer let the fact that he was working on a new Paper Mario gameFOR THE WII Uover a year ago, the fact that she "leaked" it is people just forgetting about that leak. She did the EXACT SAME THING WITH PIKMIN 3 FIVE FUCKING YEARS AGO.
http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/emily-rogers-re-confirms-and-guarantees-grand-theft-auto-5-soul-calibur-5-and-pikmin-3-for-cafe.202902441/
If NX can have quick downloads & updates, that's one way of differentiating, but if they do an NX Nintendo Direct and it's lacking major titles that people have wanted for years besides Zelda, it's curtains.
>>337526026
I understand. I'm waiting until it's better too.
By the way, PSP hacking is easy as fuck.
>>337525768
>But the PS4 and xbone are the same basic arch, they're both PCs with UMA basically. But the PS4 has more GPU and faster memory, because Sony devoted more budget to silicon, while Microsoft devoted more budget to Kinect.
Actually, this is not very accurate.
The Xbone SoC is actually more expensive than the PS4 SoC.
But this happens because microsoft did a MASSIVE blunder of shoving a 32MB SRAM memory inside the SoC, making the chip so big they had to cripple the GPU to make it actually possible to manufacture.
Was an AWFUL blunder that they could have easily avoided by basically doing the same thing they did with the 360 and put the SRAM on a separate die.
>>337526097
Reggie & Bill met-up with Anita and Brianna at a "party".
The type of party involving underaged boys and girls being used as party favors.
>>337526167
Nobody "plays" Uncharted. You watch Uncharted.
>5 years from now
>Nintendo dies
>MS is in the same way
>Only Sony in the console market
What would we do?
>>337526167
>uncharted
Yeah this type of amazing gameplay could only work on the amazing PS4 hardware
>>337525831
It's not a good idea to lean entirely on Zelda anymore. America was the only region Skyward Sword well and that was on a console with a massive install base. Souls is the new Sword-meme game now.
>>337526097
Pic related, they REALLY want the Twitter, Tumblr, "listicle" SJW market. That's why they censored FEF, #FE, XCX and PZ.
>>337525737
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>>337526219
>7
>>337526254
>>337526320
Nintendo fans everybody. Apologist experts.
>>337523375
It's a Nintendo console I knew the thing was going to be a piece of shit before it was even stated. Nintendo's home consoles haven't been relevant since the Gamecube. I'm more interested in the NX handheld (since that seems to be the only thing Nintendo is good at now a days) which was stated to be far more powerful than the Vita.
>>337526341
I already dropped Sony and go PC/Nintendo only.
Wouldnt be too terrible to go PC only, all the games are multiplats these days anyways, and that will only spread more over the years.
>>337526508
Calling out someone for making shit up in the past and continuing to do so is not apologia.
>>337526539
>>337526543
>t. Reggie's bitches
>>337526341
Sony said they don't know if they're making another console.
>>337526341
Get a second job to pay for the 599 dollars PS5 will cost.
>>337526508
>Nintendo fans everybody. Apologist experts.
Except I don't like Nintendo anymore, anon.
>>337526652
>he admits to sucking Reggie's Wii and begging for more trash every day
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>>337526539
>only nintendo fans are allowed to dislike this x movie franchise I like
Get over yourself.
>>337526539
>>337526379
not to be a dick or something but U4 SP is just tray garbage. The most linear and movie focus uncharted yet.
Also SF0 is literally 64 with a shitty gimmick.
So stop this stupid fight.
>>337526624
I hope this is true.
>>337526539
But if compared to other nintendo games for the freaking WIiU, don't fare that well.
>>337524842
Just spit out those "dunk" memes the kids love on NoA's twitter
So is the extremely vocal shitposting Sonygger just an ebin meme persona or have things gotten this bad at this point?
Uncharted is garbage and only Giantbombers like it.
>>337526732
>The most linear and movie focus uncharted yet.
You haven't played it, otherwise you would know that's not true. It's actually very open and less linear.
>>337526836
This thread isn't about uncharted, fuck off kike
>>337526715
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>>337526789
>5 Platinum coins deposited in your Nintendo account
>>337523375
Emily Rogers is a lying cunt who got her true leaks from other sources and simply by guesssing after putting 1 and 1 together.
>>337525447
Import a Euro then
>>337526883
She has never been correct in any relevant time frame.
>>337526786
>or have things gotten this bad at this point?
Things have gotten bad. Ever since Nintendo did their last financial year report, pretty much every rational Nintendo fan thinks Nintendo's in trouble.
>>337523672
They're confident in zelda and doing full long ass demos in little booths to "Immerse" people in it and let it win them over.
>>337526883
>simply by guesssing after putting 1 and 1 together
That's still more than /v/ can manage.
>>337526786
/v is pc centric
its likely that most sony shitposts are actually pc gamers
>>337523375
Isn't that the same bitch that said the NX would be more powerful than a PS4?
lmao not even x86_64? It's ogre for them
Nintendo will die in your lifetime
>>337524842
"just give me your money"
>>337526290
>Actually, this is not very accurate.
Yeah it is, I just simplified the timeline.
>The Xbone SoC is actually more expensive than the PS4 SoC.
>But this happens because microsoft did a MASSIVE blunder of shoving a 32MB SRAM memory inside the SoC,
That itself though was basically a panic response however. Microsoft, and basically everyone else for that matter (including /v/ at the time) didn't expect Sony to go with as many clusters or a full 8 gigs of GDDR5. Faster memory got rumored well before release, but even then it was believed it'd be faster but half as much (4 GB), which would have been a blurrier difference vs less DD3. The PS4 specs & launch price, modest as they are in comparison to PC gaming, were still one of the few actual surprises I can remember in the last decade at least of vidya hardware. The SRAM was an attempt to try to mitigate the enormous bandwidth different. You might recall that Microsoft also spent more money on binning to try to get their core clockspeed higher too.
All of that though stemmed from the original sin of devoting One Hundred and Fifty Obamas worth of BOM to fucking Kinect. Microsoft could have designed it with GDDR5 and more clusters and/or better cores right from the beginning and avoided all their late hour hack attempts to try to even things up a bit entirely.
>making the chip so big they had to cripple the GPU to make it actually possible to manufacture.
No, GPU was locked in at announcement time. No changes were made between then and launch. AMD has standard offerings, Sony and MS had equal opportunity to request whatever the fuck they wanted during initial contracting.
>Was an AWFUL blunder that they could have easily avoided by basically doing the same thing they did with the 360 and put the SRAM on a separate die.
Microsoft blundered start to finish with the Bone which honestly is kind of a shame. Or not I guess, since it helped mean one more generation of competition.
>>337526836
> It's actually very open and less linear.
this is false, is not "open" is cinematic as fuck , a lot of QTE , false sense of "open" game and action pieces a lot of time , its very movie esque. But this thread is not about U4 so move on.
>>337526878
Wow , some nintendo kiddo is really mad his favorite company is on trouble.
>Lets falseflag so people cannot see the fucking blunder.
>>337527206
No, that was /v/.
>>337526786
It's been intolerable since the PS4 launched. I don't even know if I can entirely fault them since they had to suffer the humiliation of the PS3 and their current console, while selling absurdly well, just got its second game after 3 years (and that "game" is 75% movie)
It is more than $199 with a pack-in game and has a weird controller I won't even consider it. Not paying premium prices for old tech.
>>337523375
I have the new slogan for Nintendo: "One Step Forward, Two Steps Back".
Has any company mismanaged themselves this badly yet survived this long?
>>337527423
>this is false, is not "open" is cinematic as fuck
And yet you can take multiple paths at certain points or in certain levels like Madagascar, freely drive around and find side areas.
a lot of QTE
There are no QTEs in Uncharted, unless you count having to button mash in rare parts
>it's very movie esque. But this thread is not about U4 so move on.
And yet still has more to do than a lot of recent Nintendo games
>>337527654
>Has any company mismanaged themselves this badly yet survived this long?
each one of those "mismanagement's" has made them money.
>>337527654
they would be quite good as a games only developer
Nintendo doesn't have to worry about no third party support anymore, the NX is getting Doom.
>>337527654
4chan.
>>337527378
>Microsoft blundered start to finish with the Bone which honestly is kind of a shame. Or not I guess, since it helped mean one more generation of competition.
>Or not I guess, since it helped mean one more generation of competition.
Also, this extra. I mean, I wish the xbone had been fucking kickass like it should have. On the other hand Microsoft has the Windows/Office/enterprise services money spigots, so if they do badly one gen or two they'll just be back next time around and get better.
But if they hadn't fucked up Sony would have been gigglestomped, and then either gone bankrupt or split up/got out of the console business, same result really as far as playstation goes, brand would probably have been bought by some chinese or samesung or some shit. Then it would have been down to Nintendo's low powered gimmicks and Microsoft free to just do whatever they wanted to us.
So kind of glad sony got a one-generation reprieve from destruction. PS5 and XTwo will be a lot better as a result.
>>337527761
Wait do you think that straight path is open? do you think the boat level is open too? lol.
>>337523479
Everyone was expecting a Paper Mario for Wii U though.
also
>implying Blunder Splash is Paper Mario
Was releasing the Wii U like 2 years before everyone else released their consoles a mistake? It seems like Nintendo is gonna have bad timing eternally unless they either push something out or wait a long time.
>>337524842
>"To be successful, I will be handing out some Wiid"
>>337528057
It's Mario with a stylized flat 2D paper aesthetic.
That's pretty much "Paper Mario".
>>337527654
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>>337527809
Salty Nintendrones need to calm down
>>337525969
Mad as fuck
>>337524208
Are they talking about a new paper mario that isn't color splash??
NO NO NO NO NO
THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR ULTIMATE WEAPON
As a PS4 and Wii U owner, Nintendo's sudden downfall makes me sad.
>Censor games in looking forward to
>NX probably won't be good
>Even if the console is good, the games will be censored
>>337528594
Holy shit how desperate are you fucks?
Once nintendo dies sega will come back to take it's place, and then we will finally get the dreamcast 2.
>>337528141
The mistake was not being better prepared for the original Wii's end of life. If any system got its life cut short, it should have been the overclocked Gamecube, but it was selling so well Nintendo didn't feel any urgency.
So the Wii U, based on its specs, probably came out at least a year [if not ~2] too late. It had pretty much no window to take advantage of PS360 ports because the generation was already winding down.
Nintendo could break the cycle by releasing a very powerful console that gives them some legs, but they won't because they are Japan-centric and the Western market doesn't view Nintendo favorably enough to command a high price.
So it seems like they've turtled up and are resigning themselves to short cycles and down-ports. It's sad, really. This will be their last piece of hardware in the West. I'm sure they'll keep putting stuff out in Japan, but they are pretty much all wrapped up over here.
>>337528792
That's never gonna happen.
reposting rumors and getting a few real ones isn't being true all the time
besides, shit she says is plain out fucking wrong
> it’s not simple to directly compare two apples (with x86 architecture) to an orange (that doesn’t use x86 architecture)
no it isn't, it's quite simple. ghz isn't the only measure of a cpu (and it's only a valid factor for comparison between near identical architectures)
I would be down for a Nintendo death at this point, at least on consoles. They could still release handhelds, but I want their exclusives on PC.
>>337527378
The SoC design was not changed due "pressure of sony", the plan was to have the cache all along.
What microsoft wanted was to be a smartass and save money by using DDR3 memory instead of GDDR5 and use a cache so the memory is fast enough to handle the GPU, because well, its quite common knowledge a regular medium end GPU needs 150+GB/s of memory speed.
And yes, this actually IS a great idea... if done right.
But they fucked it up with the cache by wanting to "make the manufacturing easier" by shoving it on the same die.
>>337523375
Making another PS4 wouldn't've done anything
>>337529245
fuck hit enter too early
by near identical architectures I meant microarchitectures, as obviously two x86 processors can be vastly different in performance between clockrates, even when only comparing single threaded benchmarks.
also emily stated it couldn't use polaris architecture because it couldn't be a high end system. That logic doesn't flow, it's how many compute engines it has that matters (and how little or many the gpu architecture supports being a factor on that)
So it's a handheld?
>>337525718
>3rd Party working with Nintendo means power is what matters
did you forget the DS and 3DS exist
>>337528810
>Nintendo could break the cycle by releasing a very powerful console that gives them some legs
HOW though!? Think this shit through anon, the economics of consoles are simultaneously easier then ever and also more brutal. I say "easier" because unlike in the past there is no big R&D effort necessary, everyone can just order the same stuff. But the latter for the exact same reason: there really isn't any room to leap ahead anymore either. Everyone at any given time has access to the same fabs, the same architectures, the same basic silicon technology. And margins are razor thin, yet people expect the consoles to last reasonably well, devs want either a large installed base or a big enough advantage to kickstart people moving.
Off-cycle eternally means that the competition:
1) Isn't that far off in power, because a mere 2-3 years isn't enough anymore to make a big difference.
2) Has a huge installed base already because they've already been out a few years
3) They're a lot cheaper because they've had a few years
which tends to in turn lead to 3rd parties either doing exclusives on the console with the biggest installed base or doing multiplats that target the lowest common denominator that's reasonably close. Which makes it fucking hard to compete. And of course it also means that after another 2-3 years the next gen of the competition comes out which makes it all even worse.
tl;dr: Nintendo's entire hardware focus is fucking retarded. Their strength is their IPs, their software. The only reason people love and give a shit about Nintendo is their software. They need to take advantage of the ease of matching now and just make good, focused straight forward hardware then focus on awesome vidya. The end.
WOW! Who cares about some bitch that makes guesses and is wrong 99% of the time
>>337529656
Apparently (You)
>>337528792
We both know that this is never going to happen
>>337528792
why do that when PC gaming exists
>>337529176
Yeah it is man. Sega will make video game consoles great again.
>>337530043
My opinion on Sega is higher than Nintendo now.
>They own Atlus, Persona and Shin Megami Tensei
>Resonance of Fate was great
>Bring back Shenmue as a HD collection
>Yakuza series is great and they localize them perfectly
>>337527654
>new slogan
I gonna tell you something son, nintendo is not a good company and never been.
It is just a very fucking lucky company since the start.
First, surviving yakuza and WW2.
Then blundering horribly at everything not card games until they did an arcade game that blundered horribly as well.. and then they tossed this blunder on a rookie to make him try to create a new game on it and fail so he would get the blame.
But this rookie luckly was Mr.Miyamoto, and he did donkey kong and well you know how this one went.
Then the famicom itself, it would be basically impossible to manufacture it by the price they wanted, so they luckly found a chip plant that was about to die, and got the price they wanted from it by ordering 5 fucking million of chips, on a era where anything video game not called atari sold less than a million units, and atari itself was at 7.
And then the hardware failed and they had to make a massive million unit recall... but you know how famicom went despise all that stupid gambling.
Then tetris was basically a random commie bullshit hell that luckly ended with nintendo being able to put it on gameboy, making it sell a fuckton, instead of ending with the american CEO of nintendo shot on some back alley by KGB thugs.
Then they lucked out by finding rare for boosting the Snes, lucked the FUCK OUT by finding gamefreak, lucked again with the nintendo DS, with the Wii...
So yes.. unless lady luck strike again, they will eventually die due sheer mismanagement and stupidity.
>>337528792
Sega barely works on console games anymore, you really think they have enough money to make another console?
>>337530190
Resonance of Fate was six years ago.
Sega is fucking trash.
>>337529642
>HOW though?
They'd have to release a system that was above PS4K, and even then I don't know if it would matter. Part of the problem with their off-cycle pattern is how far off the cycle they are.
I said in my post that they've basically given up, so obviously they don't see a way to get out of where they are.
>>337530190
>they localize them perfectly
Comedy duo mini game says otherwise.
>>337530417
>Resonance of Fate was six years ago.
Yeah, I only really started playing it this year and got more gameplay out of that compared to any Wii U game.
>>337530547
>sega fanboys
>>337530439
What was the problem with that except for difficulty? I found it fine.
>>337530190
>Yakuza series is great and they localize them perfectly.
Are you for real right now?
>>337530607
I'm not really a Sega fanboy though? For example, I don't like what they've done to Sonic now with Boom. But Atlus, Yakuza and their smaller series? I'm fine with that.
>>337530672
>Are you for real right now?
Except for Yakuza 1-3, they've done a pretty good job.
>>337523375
Stop posting these bullshit rumors this lying bitch has been BTFO too many times for any sensible person to take her seriously ever again
>>337530435
>They'd have to release a system that was above PS4K
My point though is that I don't think they actually can really. Or to be more clear, they can't while maintaining a standard console price, because obviously the tech exists due to PC to make something that'd slaughter the PS4 by the kind of order of magnitude needed to be a whole new gen. But not for $400, or even $500 probably, and Nintendo certainly can't afford to subsidize the difference. The fundamental economics of silicon fabrication and development really just doesn't favor being significantly off-cycle.
Although in fairness, I also said that Nintendo's core strength is software. So it'd be better then nothing to just make the most focused thing they could for $300-400, which would only be mildly more powerful then a PS4 but vastly better then the Wii U, and then just focus on top-tier 1st party titles. They'd certainly get multiplats too. It wouldn't dominate, but it'd help shore up their position, and Nintendo is one of the only players that might be able to make that work if they just change their focus a bit. They might even be able to spin it into a bit more stickiness, which isn't market dominance but is solid damage control while they wait for the next disruption.
>>337524005
It is.
And the worst thing is that, at RELEASE the PS4 already had shitty, old hardware.
So the NX is coming in 2017(!) WITH HARDWARE FROM FUCKING 2012.
>>337530754
You're an Atlus fanboy Not a Sega fanboy.
A real Sega fanboy would be anticipating the next chapter in the Sonic Boom series.
>>337531013
>they can't while maintaining a standard console price
I already covered all of that in my first post that you responded to. You and I don't disagree.
why does this thread have 200 replies
why do you all believe a literally who
Nintendo is doing what it can, they know they will never win a tech arms race against sony and microsoft
>>337531013
>Although in fairness, I also said that Nintendo's core strength is software.
Actually, this is one area where we don't really agree. I don't think they are at all on the level of other studios at this point. They lag far behind and their games are getting worse and worse.
>>337531013
The console will probably fall within the 300-400 range with about half the cost being sunk into another dumb gimmick.
Nintendo won't change, customers ask for a regular controller and solid software, but Nintendo knows better. After all the Wii U is the best selling console of the generation and all those third party devs are lamenting their decision to not support it.
>>337531271
>>337531009
after all nintendo did those last years , do you think is going to be different?
it makes sense
>selling at no loss
>other rumor about handheld/console hybrid
Is the best to face reality man, they just don't care anymore and you can see that with the wiiu. I can't believe how that zombie nintendo gave us Splatoon. Is like it was pure luck or something after SF0 and Paper mario.
>>337531334
Especially when they force gimmicks and architecture that others don't want to develop for.
>>337531201
Suppose I am then. Judging by sales numbers, is anyone even excited for the next Sonic Boom?
>>337523375
>NX is much closer to Xbox One than PlayStation 4
>closer
>Not ahead
It's dead on arrival
Google is announcing a console soon.
The low price to power will save console gamingunforunately
Nintendo's problems
>nintendo fans are getting old and having families
>children don't care about kiddy shit, they want to play shooters and other stuff
>first party games already getting stale
>gimmicky shit
>treating third parties like garbage
>have retarded online
>have the idiotic 'less is more !' mindset
It's time for them to burn
>>337531241
>I already covered all of that in my first post that you responded to. You and I don't disagree.
Fair enough, I didn't catch that. Did you mean this?:
>>337528810
>but they won't because they are Japan-centric and the Western market doesn't view Nintendo favorably enough to command a high price.
I guess then the only wrinkle I'd add to that is that I'm not sure ANYONE can "command a high price" anymore. Normalfags don't seem to understand inflation, or maybe more accurately due to stagnating wages and middle class the old rules about inflation don't really apply anymore, so nobody wants to see console pricing go up even just to keep up with the same pricing as before. The Playstation 1 for example launched for $300 in 1995, which will be equivalent to something like $500 in 2018. But I bet Sony would get raked over the coals for trying to launch the PS5 at $500, let alone 599 US DOWARS. So really everyone not only have to deal with higher expectations and mobile and all that but an ever shrinking BOM.
That's why I think it's a brutal fucking market to be in. Stuff like paid online, DLC., as high new game prices as possible, etc are really tempting out of sheer desperation. Nintendo does have stuff like Amiibos so they do have decent monetization potential there. Still, it's not just that they can't command a premium, I'm just not sure that a "premium" console market actually really exists period. $400, maybe $450, is basically going to be what will get targeted next time too no matter who it is. No one wants to be "that company" that launches +$100 and gets brutalized in year 1 sales. Simultaneously launch too low and silicon gets so neutered that the system has no legs. I'm not sure anyone has much room to maneuver, actually just writing this out made it sound even worse to me as I thought about it more.
>>337531946
Yeah, I don't think people here understand how much of a difference there is between the PS4 and XB1. If the NX is that weak, it'll have problems.
>>337531980
Isn't Intel putting out some kind of console or set-top box mini-PC, too?
>>337532440
Presenting the new CD-I
>>337531980
>The low price to power will save console gaming
Not in this day and age
>>337531370
>Actually, this is one area where we don't really agree. I don't think they are at all on the level of other studios at this point. They lag far behind and their games are getting worse and worse.
I'm trying to be optimistic here anon and assume that the talent depth still exists to turn things around if, BIG IF, management got their heads out of their asses. Which in my defense is kind of a baseline assumption here, because otherwise all my speculation about a focused, non-gimmicky console is farting in the wind anyway. I mean, it is, but we're theorizing here so cut me some slack.
Also, I think their gimmick shit is a distraction that has actively harmed their software guys, who are forced to find ways to use it whether they want to or not and also are hemmed in by shallow basics. Making the hardware simple and good would also free up R&D yen for software too.
That said this anon has the likely truth:
>>337531565
>Nintendo won't change, customers ask for a regular controller and solid software, but Nintendo knows better. After all the Wii U is the best selling console of the generation and all those third party devs are lamenting their decision to not support it.
;_;
Still with the "Nintendo needs third parties and good hardware" meme.
I don't buy Nintendo consoles to play multiplats
>>337531592
>selling at no loss
They have Amiibos to offset costs. They could even release launch day special editions.
>other rumor about handheld/console hybrid
There are also rumors saying its as strong as a high end PC.
Either way, all of them have been wrong because no one predicted Spring 2017.
>>337532907
Me either, but most want third party games.
>>337525512
>child market that doesn't exist
>>337533157
For Nintendo. Kids moved onto Minecraft and iOS. When it comes to proper gamers though, most are adults.
>>337533157
>those words with that picture
>implying "video games" for millennial preteens/teens means "console" and not "mobile and web"
l-lol?
>>337532440
No clue about Intel.
>>337532229
Well, by "command a high price", I probably should have specified that I meant the upper range of what the consumer will bear -- $400. Nintendo doesn't have credibility in the West to launch at $400. They couldn't launch at $350 with the Wii U and they the 3DS couldn't get traction at $250. They didn't even sell well at $199 with the Gamecube. If the Saturn hadn't completely collapsed like a dying star, you have to wonder how well the 64 would have done at the same price.
Nintendo presents an absolutely god awful value proposition to the customer -- who aren't as dumb as people seem to think. Nintendo's systems get poor third party support, internal software is uneven, they lack the features of rival consoles and almost never have worthwhile unique features to make up for it. They released two consoles in a row where your digital purchases are bound to your specific machine, for crying out loud.
Nintendo is not an appealing product for the general public and the install bases their consoles generate are proof of that.
>>337526438
NOA has censored games for decades.Post like this show how underaged neo/v/ is.
>>337533651
I know that, but when they release games like Bayonetta fine by then start censoring like mad again, of course we'll be pissed off.
>>337526438
You're a special guy, aren't you?
>>337533913
Hello Treehouse!
>>337533847
The censoring can be attributed to Treehouse butchering localization and cutting content because it "won't appeal to audiences" or "think of the children" arguments
Uhh, let me get this straight:
We buy mobile games and it's okay.
We pay money for cross platform downgraded console games and its okay.
But it's not okay when Nintendo chooses hardware that isn't cutting edge?
>>337525137
like how low is your dick senpai?
>>337534132
Not even the guy you're responding to but mine hangs a lot lower than that. Just thought I'd share.
>>337523375
A few months ago Emily Rogers was fucking saying that it was closer to the PS4 and maybe a bit more powerful
Make up your goddamn mind holy fuck
>>337534130
>But it's not okay when Nintendo chooses hardware that isn't cutting edge?
Why would your average consumer dump their PS4 for a weaker console or if they didn't own any of the three, go for the weaker one?
>>337533651
People who act like like nothing changed between the SNES and the Wii U are completely ridiculous.
There were sprinklings of censorship in some games here and there, but Nintendo's published half a dozen censored releases in the past year. It's ridiculous.
>>337523375
Nothing to discuss. The NX is the next Pippin. The end. Everyone has known this for months now, more details just turn the hazy picture clear.
>>337533548
>Well, by "command a high price", I probably should have specified that I meant the upper range of what the consumer will bear -- $400. Nintendo doesn't have credibility in the West to launch at $400.
I think that's putting the cart before the horse though. "Credibility" for a brand doesn't derive from some innate value of the brand, it waxes and wains with the actions of the company behind it. Nintendo couldn't get $350 for the Wii U because it was mediocre and just wasn't worth $350. They get poor 3rd party support not because "Nintendo" per se, but because they make it a huge PITA to work with them.
Sony themselves is a great example of this: having the most popular, best selling consoles of all time twice in a row with ludicrous installed base and massive hype didn't save them from utterly belly flopping when the fucked themselves. They then worked very hard to try to right the boat, and after years did manage to salvage things somewhat. But even that all would have been for nothing if they hadn't learned and applied the lessons. The PS4 is almost the anti-PS3, or at least keeps the few good parts while tossing all the bad. It was straight forward, modest, focused, reasonably priced, nice to develop for, etc.
So I see no reason why Nintendo couldn't start building back up if they just did that too: no dev hostile, BOM-sucking gimmicks, no bullshit when it comes to allowed content or localization rules or whatever, decent online, and a small, simple reasonably priced good chunk of vidya hardware. Then just focus hard on 1st party IP, try to match in terms of multiplats, and go from there. They can't bounce straight back to the 80s/90s sure, but I think they still have at least a path to start climbing again. They could make hardware worth $400, if they wanted.
>>337534335
She's a female( as far as i know) they ALWAYS flip flip.
>>337524528
Same. Though my first instinct was to laugh
>>337534342
They won't, consumers can be fickle, they go with what's popular. Commercials, ads in magazine/online, word of mouth is what sells consoles to those who aren't "gamers". Just look at the wii, everyone and their mum bought one because it was the thing to have. But since then Nintendo has dropped off the map, the marketing for the wii u was non-existent which cost them sales. They relied too heavily on name brand recognition and not distinguishing themselves from their older console and it bit them in the ass.
Now instead of marketing heavily to build hype and waiting till march for release might be another fatal blow. Microsoft and Sony are releasing new versions of their consoles before Christmas to get sales, Nintendo is choosing to release a console in March, a time when the average consumer is still paying the credit card bill for the prior Christmas' presents.
Tl;dr Nintendo fucked up again
>>337524337
So this is a strategy of theirs? To test the waters and see what Sony has to offer?
Why does Sony want them out so badly? They aren't exactly a threat anymore.
>>337535026
I honestly don't understand Nintendo's thinking at this point. Obviously I don't have insider information, but from just seeing things on the outside, they seem completely disorganized.
>>337534130
You retarded?
>We buy mobile games and it's okay.
First of all who is "we"? And second, "mobile" is not a vidya platform, it's an everything platform. Most of us have at least a smartphone because it's a critical communication and information tool. Mobile games are then a minuscule to zero incremental expense. We aren't buying the thing for vidya, the vidya is just a cheap/free bonus.
In contrast a console is a vidya appliance. That's what it's for. So it sinks or swims purely on that.
>We pay money for cross platform downgraded console games and its okay.
Again I suspect most of "us" get cross plats on the PC. But even if not that again is a bonus amortizing hardware you got for something else. It's not a system seller. "Necessary, but not sufficient". Additionally even for multiplats on consoles, there is still an issue if one console plays the multiplats better then all the others. If it's all about equal it's a non-factor, but if not then yeah that's also a problem for the weaker ones.
>But it's not okay when Nintendo chooses hardware that isn't cutting edge?
Due to the above yes, it's not ok, although you're picking a bullshit strawman. No console, nor anything else in that budget range, uses "Cutting Edge" hardware. Everyone is just ordering up an APU spun from premade tech and fabbing it on GloFlo or TSMC or whatever. Almost nobody even designs anything of their own at the metal hardware level.
But we do want Nintendo to choose hardware that's COMPETITIVE. Doesn't have to be the best, but it shouldn't be 5x worse either. It should be within 25-30%, launch time adjusted. That's really not unreasonable.
Get your shit together anon.
>>337534691
No, Nintendo can't do any of that. Nintendo's systems are a "huge PITA" to work on because Nintendo writes poor development tools and releases hardware that third parties don't want to work on.
You are way, way, way too positive about what Nintendo is and where they are. The consumer doesn't want Nintendo goods. There is almost no reason to want Nintendo goods. The Wii U follows in the same pattern that began with the SNES -- Nintendo consoles fading in install base as their competition gets stiffer.
The market has straight up moved on from Nintendo.
>>337535128
They don't. Sony gaming division is actually profitable, unlike its other bleeding divisions. But you could make the argument they would be looking at a good profit by having nintendos ip's on their consoles.
>>337535220
Don't try to understand as it will only make you frustrated. The way the company is structured and its business style is entrenched in traditional ways. I'm only making an educated guess here but I think they are just so absorbed with the "blue ocean" philosophy they forgot what actually made them stand apart from others. This translates to gimmicky console design, software that just doesn't produce that same "Nintendo" feel, and I want to say a contempt for its player base.
>>337535026
I would't count those "new versions" to cause the impact as you think they will.
The price drop probably will be much more relevant.
>>337535262
>No, Nintendo can't do any of that.
Of course they "can", there's no tech or government barrier or whatever stopping them. It's "just" a management issue. Which is a big issue, skipping ahead a bit:
>You are way, way, way too positive about what Nintendo is and where they are.
I'm really honestly not at all anon. Nothing I wrote ever stated how LIKELY I thought it was that Nintendo would pull that off. I work in tech and have for nearly 20 years now, and I've seen this show in various forms before, and it's very uncommon for a company to turn shit around completely let alone pull an Apple. But it can be done, and if anything Nintendo has a lot of strengths other companies in similar positions would kill for. That doesn't make it at all probably, I'm just stating that there isn't some law of nature here.
>Nintendo's systems are a "huge PITA" to work on because Nintendo writes poor development tools and releases hardware that third parties don't want to work on.
Right, but that's arbitrary, just as it was with the PS3. Sony fired krazy ken and in general wised up, which put them in a position to capitalize on their opponents blunders. Which itself is important to always keep in mind: sometimes just showing up the race and being not-shit is good enough because competitors are fallible too.
>The consumer doesn't want Nintendo goods. There is almost no reason to want Nintendo goods.
They don't want CURRENT Nintendo goods too. And if this rumor is true they won't want Nintendo's upcoming goods either. But it's not due to "marketing" or "sheeple" or "brand loyalty" whatever, it's due to them. And in turn they could fix it if they could get some good people in commandwhich I'm not betting money on.
>>337535987
>it's due to them
"Them" being Nintendo here, just to be clear.
>>337525007
Solid point, 007. If the Wii U launched with Smash it may have actually sold.
>>337528792
The Xbox was literally the Dreamcast 2. Sega dedicated a ton of exclusives to it, and was once planned to have compatibility with Dreamcast games. Microsoft also inherited the dudebro audience from Sega's mantle.
>>337536298
>>337536208
>>337536117
>>337535987
>Wah wah, Reggie will save the Wii U, I swear!
>>337528792
I want a successor to Genesis
>>337533357
>>337533327
It's pretty well known that most 3ds owners are children.
>>337533847
Bayonetta is a clearly adult game so there would be no point trying to make it kid friendly.Stuff like bravely default is clearly made for a younger audience hence the censorship.It's all about the parents.
>>337535337
>Nintendo's Ip's on their consoles
Never ever sonygger
>>337536504
You're right. Nintendo would go full smartphone if they dropped consoles.
>>337536298
Sega dedicated a ton of exclusives to it
Like what? Only one I can think of is Panzer Dragoon and Jet Set Radio
>>337536579
Exactly.
>>337535987
>but that's arbitrary
It really isn't. They don't have the same knowledge base that a company like Microsoft does for development tools. They cannot compete in that area and the industry is long past the point where the platform holder is to be catered to, especially if they aren't moving systems.
>They don't want CURRENT Nintendo goods
The pattern has been progressing in earnest since 1995. There was a brief reprieve with the Wii and DS, largely on the back of selling to people who don't play games. Nintendo banked their money on it and good for them, but they don't have much standing left in the general consumer base who buys video games.
>But it's not due to "marketing" or "sheeple" or "brand loyalty"
Where did I say it was? I said Nintendo's situation is the direct result of releasing decades of bad value propositions to the consumer -- who isn't dumb.
>they could fix it if they could get some good people in command
The time to fix it was after they banked 10 billion dollars or whatever it was from the Wii and their competitors were scrambling to finally turn a profit on their systems. Instead, they basically abandoned the Wii for the last ~2 years while they struggled to push out HD games for Wii U's launch.
Nintendo is basically out of time.
>>337523375
>Nintendo goes into a generation half way in with something just as powerful as what's out there right now
>>337523375
>In terms of raw power, numerous sources tell me that NX is much closer to Xbox One than PlayStation 4.
Nintendrones will defend this
>>337536764
Just like with every console or handheld they've put out since the DS, they're banking on whatever gimmick they've come up with.
>>337536579
No, they would partner up with another Japanese company and continue to put out consoles while expanding into other areas.
>>337536579
>>337536618
So it would benefit no one if they went third party.
>>337535948
I could have expanded on it a bit better I agree, my point went towards the fact that inventory would be pushed down in price, those wishing to upgrade who already own one console would trade in or sell.
Ps4 and XboxOne are leading the gen, go into any store that sells games and compare the amount of shelf space allotted for each console. The Nintendo brand name no longer carries the same amount of pull it did even 3 years ago.
They should have began working on the NX during the first year of the U's release when the first signs of slow sales began appearing. Now they delayedfurther due to, in their own words " to have a good software lineup at launch" and yet the only game we know that's been confirmed is Zelda Wii U/NX.
>>337536451
>It's pretty well known that most 3ds owners are children.
Yeah, manchildren
>>337536208
If the WiiU was not named WiiU, it would have sould the double it did.
Everyone thinks its a Wii accessory.
Meanwhile Sony will release PS4K with a 390 GPU. Nintendo is fucked.
>>337536298
>a ton
They definitely dedicated some, but Sega whored themselves out to everybody.
You had Sega shit on everything after the Dreamcast went under.
>>337536925
Well, its quite obvious nintendo should start marketing this fucking thing as soon they can, as in they should have started already.
>>337536504
Read carefully, my response was pointed at a question as to why Sony would want Nintendo out of the console business. Learn to read before making a baseless judgment as it only makes you look in incompetent.
>>337536591
Shenmue, GunValkyrie, Headhunter.
>>337536834
They are really overrating their capacity of coming up with appealing gimmicks. And with the way they treat consumers >>337536778 they better pray this has broad enough appeal because they sure as hell won't convert bots and niggers like that. The NX has the potential to make the Wii U a moderate success in comparison.
>>337537030
PS4k is irrelevant, and will have to face a terrible evil uphill battle againstThe 100 dollar cheaper PS4
>>337536298
>The Xbox was literally the Dreamcast 2
no
The Xbox took some cues from the Dreamcast and Sega made a few exclusives for it
#1 I want the NX to be affordable. I'm only getting it for Nintendo games. $150 handheld, $250 home console.
>>337536737
Eh, I don't really feel like arguing this more since it's Devil's Advocate anyway and I don't actually believe in them to any real degree. I just think that the current market continues to evolve very quickly, there is plenty of room to try to remake the game board in various ways. I don't actually think Nintendo has the command capability or flexibility to capitalize on that, but I've personally witnessed surprisingly rapid changes in the past when some breaking point is reached and someone fresh is brought inand often those rapid changes are the nail in the coffin of course. I guess we'll see, I was just trying to construct a case for it, thinking more like a vulture fund. Nintendo has unrealized value is all.
At any rate on the current trend we're probably largely in agreement, it'll be a continued decay, kind of like RIM/Blackberry maybe. Old companies can stick around for a surprisingly long time as shadows of their old selfs. There's the Sega option for example.
>>337537030
Talk about a bottleneck. PS4K is fucked if the rumors about its CPU are true.
>>337537030
Speaking of "fucked" god damn Shima-tan's ass is just criminal.
>>337537117
Exactly, but they still think people will line up for it. But here in burger land the only holiday I can think of in March is Easter, and it might have been a while ago when I went on an Easter egg hunt, the eggs weren't chock full of video games or consoles, mostly they had shit chocolate and disappointment inside. But whatever I'm not in charge of Nintendo and never will be, they can do as they please, but it's a business and investors generally hate to see one bad decision after another.
>Emily Rogers literally said weeks ago the NX would be as powerful if not more powerful than the PS4
>She now says it's not
>/v/ believes her
What the fuck is wrong with you people
I know it's not trendy but I don't buy consoles for their hardware. I don't play games for their graphics. I don't NOT play games for their graphics (unless it runs at 5FPS).
I play games for their gameplay. I care about how they play, and how you play them. I'm interested in the sort of features a game has to enrich my playing experience. I'm an idort, I don't give two dicks about fanboys or their made up console war that is literally free advertising. I care about video games.
That being said.
With how much Nintendo and others have been stressing hardware for the NX, it has me worried. Worried that the NX is yet another multiplat machine. I don't care about multiplats because they're ALWAYS the kind of game I have zero interest in. They're the sort of game that can't make it on one or two platforms so they have to scrape all the sales up they can. Such as Assassins Creed, CoD, or FIFA.
Yes, there are some good multiplats out there, but exclusives are always the cherry on top. Purely because they're developed with a goal in mind. Made by people who usually care and want to make a good product. They want to make a strong, lasting game. They don't just want to hork up another pile of reused assets. If more multipats were developed like exclusives (like Rayman Origins), the world would be a better place.
tl;dr I don't need another CoD box.
>>337537289
Depends on how accurate the rumors are about what Sony actually wants to do with it. If they want perfect compat with the PS4, as in it's literally the same thing with a better GPU so it can run games natively at a higher res, then the CPU doesn't really matter. It's not meant to be a new gen.
If they actually intend there to be titles exclusively for it though (and god would that be stupid but hey) then yeah, keeping the PS4 CPU would gimp it pretty hard.
>>337523375
Are people actually believing this slut? I wish I could remove her ability to spout bullshit.
