Just played Doom 64
HOLY FUCK THIS AMBIANCE WHY DONT MORE GAMES DO THIS??? IM IMMERSED AS FUCK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udjDdj4bcE0
>>337518363
N64 or Absolution on PC?
>>337518518
>Absolution
Doom 64 EX is actually closer to the original game.
Doom 64 was one of the best FPS games on the N64. I'm glad they made something completely new rather than just making a direct port of the original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkktyOA06NQ
quake did it better
dOOm PSX was also a neat spin on original dOOm with it's change in music and lighting. Same guy later did the soundtrack for dOOm 64 and the fan PC port is also not half bad.
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/57957-psx-doom-final-doom-tc-version-2-135-now-released/
I wanted to love this game.
It's too dark, even with the game and TV brightness jacked up, and I felt that the puzzles were just too obtuse. The double-barrel feels great though.
>>337518363
You're making a thread about a retro game every single fucking day. You may now fuck off to either /vg/ or /vr/, you've made talking about Doom 64 double bannable on /v/, grats doom 64 guy
>>337520779
Damn, that's cool.
I'm trying Doom 64 EX but it feels sluggish and I've already tried to disable v-sync
>>337520779
How do I play normal doom with psx soundtrack? tried selecting doom.wad and the pk3 file but it still played the original soundtrack
>>337523846
Bump
When i play vanilla dooms i play this over doom 2, the level design is so consistant
>>337518363
Secret best Doom game. I'm playing it on the N64 and it is dank as fuck. It's also the perfect thematic bridge between Doom 2 and Doom 3. Truly GOAT.
>>337525186
How's the control with the n64 gamepad? Good, awkward, okay or bad?
>>337525324
The default setup is gigashit, much like the PC games, but blessedly whoever made it had the foresight to include a bindings menu. With a little fiddling it quickly becomes quite playable. It's not as responsive as mouselook obviously but playing it old-style does add an extra layer of challenge, especially with the souped-up demons 64 features.
im literally going to sleep with this playing
>>337525324
Back in the days, I found it just alright.
Tried it a few years ago again, and it felt quite awkward, BUT luckily you could use / make a Turok-style control scheme that helps a lot, being probably the closest thing to WASD + M consoles have ever provided.
Overall, though, the game's slightly optimized for the gamepad, as in you seldom get dozens of enemies on screen at once like in PC Dooms.
Doom 64 EX is better than Doom and arguably better than Doom 2
DANNY WON
>>337523846
Having the same problem here
>>337525850
PS1 E1M1 is pretty good to put it while sleeping.
that is like what fallout 1 and 2's soundtracks were and were done away with in 3 and up
Doom 64 is the REAL, superior "Doom 3", and also beats the shit out of D44M.
Unmaker best gun. It's fucking criminal they've ignored this beast ever since, especially since it's in the production bible for the original so whoever's making D44M should be aware of it. A weapon that evolves by finding secret stages? C'mon that's brilliant.
>>337526075
I like this badass random marine Doomguy more than the GRR I AM ANGRY AND I HATE SCREENS demon killer lord Doomguy he turned into
>>337526432
It's kind of fun though, Doom 64's brief textscroll interludes depict Doomguy going from the resigned soldier he was in Doom 1 and 2 to something much closer to the bloodthirsty demonfucker depicted in D44M. The latter might be a shit game, but it's pretty awesome that this particular forgotten gem ties the series together.
>>337526075
The fucking ending
>Doomguy got severe issues after saving the world in Doom 2 and just wants to retire and live a nice life
>Suddenly shit happens in another place and they send him to deal with it because who fucking else would they send but the guy who literally killed Sin Incarnate
>After going through Doom 1 and 2 again times a hundred he finds the Mother of All Demons and beats the everliving shit out of her
>Instead of going back to the life he thought he wanted, he finds purpose in hell and decides to stay to make sure no more demons ever show up
Welcome to Hell
Population: Doomguy
>>337523846
Drag the PSXTC thing to Gzdoom executable or w/e you use and play.
>>337526346
Picking up the Unmaker is hilarious because the message when you pick it up it says "What the fuck is this thing?".
>>337526346
I could never figure out the secret levels that involve it. Think there were parts where you could fuck getting it upgraded or some shit and you were forced to continue onwards with the level.
>Doom 64 chainsaw got buffed and deals twice as much damage.
>>337528063
>>337528449
64 does have a bunch of optional puzzles you can permanently fail, and it's extremely fond of inescapable lava pits, which is one of the few areas i seriously fault it. Modern wad design frowns on both, and without mid-level save states the consequences are pretty dire. It's not a game to be played without the memory pak if you want to get the Unmaker to full power, certainly.
>>337526432
If the "Same doomguy from Doom1 to 64" rumor is true then it makes sense. He's goddamn sick of even Alternate UAC's falling into this shit, now with this UAC doing it fully intentionally. Notice how he flat out destroyes the Ardent energy things with quite some rage.
>>337518363
lmao is this song about having a period s mh
>>337518363
doom64 was way better then it had any right to be.
>>337525576
doom when it launched wasnt a mouse look focused game, devs intended a keyboard only exp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leUcIpcMZRs
B^U
>>337525904
vanilla its on par with doom and muuuuuch better than doom 2 imo
>>337529493
Anybody have the Doomguy loss edit
Doom = Doom 64 > Doom 2 >>>>>>>>> Doom 3
>>337529685I agree
>>337529436
Romero said that Doom was created with mouse input in mind.
>>337529436
No, Romero even played in id software with Mouse and Keyboard. It's more that 3d engines couldnt exactly do true 3d, so looking up and down would cause some severe distortion.
For an example, look at regular zdoom or Duke 3d.
>>337523640
it was one of the graphical settings that tries to ermulate the look of the N64 I THINK
disabling that make it run at 60fps
at least thats what happened to me
>>337520969
There was literally a cheat code to increase the brightness in that game. Fun fact.
>>337529819
Fuck me i'm dumb. Yeah, there's an option to cap the framerate besides the v-sync option
>>337529753
>>337529770
too bad mouse look isnt in the vannilla version
>>337530530
But it is.
>>337530530
>options
>mouse look
>on
Wow, that was hard.
>>337529685
100% true
There's a lot of shit in this game that can throw a veteran Doom player. I spent a good 10 minutes walking in circles on one of the early maps because I hadn't realized this game was capable of room over room architecture. Completely destroyed my sense of direction. And nobody likes Pain Elementals at the best of times but jesus fuck they are beyond brutal in 64.
Plus it seems like some levels have monster infighting disabled. I'm going through 16 right now and all my best efforts havent resulted in a single infight despite a cacodemon getting hit with a dozen imp fireballs. Odd.
>>337518363
how come doom 64 isn't counted as another game. its always doom 1 and 2 then 3 and now 4 why isnt doom 64 after 2. it is its own new game compared to both pc doom 1 and 2. its not doom ported to the N64.
>>337530530
This is The Ultimate Doom's SETUP.EXE on dosbox.
>Keyboard + Mouse
John Romero's say on the matter
https://www.twitter.com/romero/status/473587688977596416
>>337531118
Its treated as a spin-off title, even though its a very well-made entity with new level ideas to make the formula fresh.
the order of games for me is
Doom>Doom2>Doom64>Doom3>DOOM
>>337531039
It's partly due to the fact that Lost Souls in 64 are weaker (can be killed by a single regular shotgun blast), but are a hell of a lot more aggressive.
>>337518363
but thats not doom music, this is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf47DQj_2Gg
i wanna fuck shit up not get in spooky "mood" faggot
>>337531585
Yeah, they attack like fastmonsters is enabled regardless of difficulty. Just one of them can completely facefuck you in seconds if not responded to, and the Pain Elementals in Doom 64 shoot TWO Souls at a goddamn time. It's always been my policy to break out the BFG for meatball daemons but in Doom 64 it's almost a necessity.
>>337531778
I like the spooky stuff more than that ultra bassy tripe in DEWM.
I still have some ultimate password to this game seared into my mind. I will probably remember it until my dying day. It's not impressive in this day and age, because everything is on the internet and you can look it up on your phone, but back in the day it was pretty noteworthy
?TJL BDFW BFGV JVVB
>>337520584
>that whispering
sounds like my mom every time she passes my room. Good shit though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV5UnANIj3c
comfiest doom song
>>337532978
The console versions of doom went full ambience since they couldn't keep up with the PC's upbeat. The result created the kind of space opera setting we cherished in the novels. The only thing left to explore would be the hyper realism the novels created. However I feel like such a doom game would be more akin to stalker + Darksouls. Doom guy visiting places on mars and the moons repeatedly all the while finding pieces of different teleporters, relics and machinery. Visiting his friends whom have barricaded themselves in secure locations, doom guy would force elevators into emergency stop mid shaft and sleep, have to sit down and apply medical first aid all the while raging at being his personal surgeon. Modify, Load and take care of his weapons, maybe even see the benevolent sig cow rifle the marines got.
>>337520779
How do I get this to work, I drag the mod into gzdoom.exe but it starts with the regular music.
>>337534749
I believe there is a mod for the mod, I had to do this for psxe doom.
>>337534749
It's multiple wads. PSXDoom2.0, PSXTCMUS, and PSXGFX if i remember correctly.
>>337536191
I can't find PSXGFX.WAD anywhere
>>337538267
It should be included on the Doomworld download unless they changed it in an update.
>>337538267
Go here:
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1074676
Grab PSXDoom 2.134.zip; PSXTCMUS.pk3 and Customizer V0.9.4.zip and extract them to your GZDoom directory. From there, just run PSXDoom.bat and it sets everything up for you.
When I bought Doom 64, it was $80 retail. N64 games were expensive af.
>>337539881
You know I always hear people say this but I never encountered it. The only N64 game I paid close to $80 for was Majora's Mask, and t hat was because it was the gold controller bundle. Where did you live at the time?
>>337540271
America, I bought it at Walmart so I assume it was the lowest price nation wide
>>337528913
>a bunch of optional puzzles you can permanently fail
I can think of only one--the pillars in Final Outpost
>it's extremely fond of inescapable lava pits
This is just BS. The trap in the freaking LAST ROOM of Blood Keep is a huge dick move though. 64 doesn't even have that many lava pits period, so I don't know where you're getting this from. I pistol started all the levels and thought it was a nice balanced challenge with only a handful of dick traps here and there.
>>337518363
The game felt too moody for me. I would say I couldn't play it for multiple hours at the time.
>>337531127
Here's an even earlier Doom SETUP.EXE
>>337541316
The room with the Megaarmor that collapses into a lava pit when you approach on Dark Citadel instantly comes to mind. The puzzle that leads to the Megaarmor on the first secret map is also possible to permanently fail, if I recall correctly.
Maybe "extremely fond" is overstating it but it uses inescapable death traps more than Doom 1 does.
>>337520584
oh well, trent reznor made it.. what did you expect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa0vltXfBis
Anyone have a full bundle download for Doom 64 EX/Absolution?
>>337543754
You need Doom 64 Cart data on your PC to play.
You will need a Cart Dumper
>>337530530
Yes it is.
>vanilla
Underage as fuck.
>>337543754
You only need two things, Doom64 EX and the rom. The former is trivial to find and the latter can be downloaded from places such as emuparadise. Then just place the rom in the Doom64 EX folder and run wadgen.exe.
>>337540781
Cacodemons can get ladies now
>>337544076
>downloaded from places such as emuparadise
do not listen to this anon
this is illegal, and when you do this you ruin the chances of proper enhanced ports being created and published.
>>337543754
https://doom64ex.wordpress.com/downloads/
>>337544127
Is it still worth getting a copy of Doom 64 when EX/Absolution exists?
>>337544290
You need the copy and a way to dump it to your PC, in order to play it
>>337544350
Or you can just download the ROM like everyone else
>>337544386
this is illegal and harms gaming
>>337520584
This is awesome, why wasn't this in the GOG version released recently?
>>337544478
People actually think this when buying copies off eBay does nothing to help the devs
>>337544290
I'm playing it on my N64 and I gotta tell you it feels great
Pretty common game too, I'm sure you can get a good deal on it and it's well worth it to own a forgotten bit of Doom history
>>337544538
it keeps the 1:1 copy ratio intact
making inf illegal copies fills up a market that could have existed for a publisher or dev was intrested in making a enhanced port for future hardware.
>>337520584
That right there is why I could never play quake when I was smaller, that's good
>>337518363
>>337520584
Never played a Doom/Quake game in my life but that music is making me change my mind.
>>337540271
Not him but Perfect Dark was $99 here in Canada during that time.
>>337544206
Doom 64 sucks. It's WAY too dark and the puzzles are bad.
>whip it out after seeing this thread for old times sake
>gameplay still holds up
>tank controls or stick works amazingly well
>all dem secrets>remembering I dont have a memory card for my 64
>>337544698
Midway is dead.
>>337549652
>Memory card
It has passwords
>>337549652
Guess you have to beat it all in one sitting or do it classic style and keep the console on overnight.
>yfw this music starts up
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vNpho45LnhE
>>337521140
>waaaaah why aren't you making console war threads? those are really really fun because I'm six years old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJA79_vw4BY
>>337549827
the could be porting dev team isnt.
>>337550657
Nobody was going to port it anyways because of licensing issues.
>>337550770
never say never
and even then im talking about all games.
a copy is a copy you cant say its 2 or more
>>337528913
playing the last level without the unmaker is painful
there is just SO MUCH SHIT happening, and none of the other guns penetrate, so you have to mow them down from front to back
>>337551232
>Archviles gone
>Revenants gone
>Mother demon has their powers
FUCK
>>337551232
i personally never use it, its the 1 flaw in the game's design, its way to powerful
>>337541797
>"actions have conesequnces waaaah"
>>337544478
>>337528935
I actually really liked that about the opening
the implication that the d44m marine is actually the same guy from the originals is a neat twist, and explains the over-aggression he shows against everything
>get your suit
>start looking at the monitor to fogure out how the demons came back and why you were woken up
>suddenly a voice comm from the founder of the UAC starts talking about "mutual agreements" and "your best interest" to team up with him
>doomguy obviously ignores him and then throws the monitor to the wall when he is ready to move on
it's nice to see him with a personality, without them forcing player dialogue; and his personality is "for fuck sake, why can't people stop summoning demons? I wanna go back to sleep, time to rip and tear until I can"
I never liked Doom 64 much. The movement is bad and the maps are cramped. It's almost as bad as Doom 3.
>>337552192
>>337551607
It's a nice touch.
>>337552192
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