ITT: good remakes
I should play this or FES?
Is FES story really good?
I heard the classic P3 game has a worse gameplay
>glitches out the ass
>typos everywhere
>people constantly refer to you as "He" when playing as a girl.
>shitty combat that removed a bunch of features
>shitty visuals
>complete removal of the 3d models and environments outside tartarus
P3P is a shitty, butchered port
>>337465428
Play FES
>>337465428
P3P is better than that edgyfest P3 FES
>>337465428
Play FES, P3P butchers the atmosphere and narrative.
>>337465428
P3P is like a fucking visual novel. Play FES.
>>337465428
FES is definitive version of P3. The only thing P3P has going for it is FeMC and she's not even canon.
>>337466178
It's literally the same game without the cutscenes, how is it butchered?
>>337466510
look at your own post and you'll find your answer
>all these FESfags
The 3d cutscenes are honestly nothing special and look like dog shit. I love the fact that p3p is portable and has a comfy VN style.
>>337466552
Enjoy your butchered port while i use every weapon i want and get to see the beautiful city.
Not to mention the actual use of fusion spells whenever i want.
>>337466510
It's all narrated through fucking text, without 3D models and cut scenes you miss a bunch of details in the narration.
>>337466664
>fusion spells
Lmao, so basically you're a fucking casual? AND you don't get to control your party members which makes gameplay even worse.
>>337464930
Hey FESfag, why you gotta false flag? Is your confirmation bias acting up?
>>337466552
>getting P3P
>when FES exists
why would you limit yourself like that, you are literally getting LESS content
>>337466889
You literally can't beat Liz without fusion spells.
>>337466961
The Answer is shit.
>>337466889
In P3P you get to spam multi target spells, making single target spells useless.
That's worse than Tactics
>>337467047
FES has more than just the answer
>>337467047
Then don't play it
Played both and prefer P3P as you can actually control your party members.
The answers suck ass and is a waste of time.
>>337465826
>people constantly refer to you as "He" when playing as a girl.
Really?
I thought about replaying P3 and trying the portable version for the fem mc, but that would kill it for me.
>>337467432
Spoken like a true casual.
>>337467556
Yup, happens a lot, even in voice clips.
P3P is best for replays. Especially on a phone emulated since you can use save states and such.
>>337466510
Because fuck reading. I need my animu cutscenes.
Femc >mc in terms of character, music and s links
P3 fes >P3P in terms of tone and gameplay.
Basically if you want to play as a male get FES and if you want to play female get P3P.
Also i would call P3P a good remake as it brings a substantial new experience if you already played the original instead of just remastering it.
>>337467751
text can only take you so far, if you really want a good detailed scene you need 3D models.
>>337467556
Only on the shitty english version.
If you're not a faggot and can understand japanese, there is no problem.
Americans are just lazy.
>FES
>narrative is told better and is more enjoyable thanks to actual cutscenes
>gameplay is not as enjoyable
>P3P
>new social links thanks to girl mode
>gameplay improvements out of the ass
>narrative is told in VN form and is overall more dogshit
I would honestly play P3P now for replays since I already beat FES and the answer once but I'm don't think I'd recommend FES to new players to the series. I WOULD explain the differences between each so they at least get an idea of what they are getting into.
>>337468393
>gameplay improvements
Yes, spamming multi target spells and dodging death 3 times per battle is REALLY damn good and totally not casualized unchallenging garbage.
>>337468530
>abusing knockdown mechanics with ken or koromaru to avoid giving the enemy a turn
I can cherrypick too anon.
That being said, without complaining about shit that breaks the game, P3P added a whole lotta new stuff that P4 had with the ability to control your party members being the most welcome change. Plus the skill cards were a nice way to get the skills you wanted on your favorite persona.
That being said, the bonus bosses P3P has also make it my primary replay version.
so FES has the best gamefeel while P3P has the best gameplay
mmm... fuck
The only person who did nothing wrong the entire game was Fuuka. She literally did absolutely nothing but good.
>>337470417
>abusing knockdown mechanics
that wastes SP, time and resources, if you want to blow all your energy one a mob, be my guest, you won't make any progress like that
>>337470975
that's Fuuka for you, the girl who's persona is a literal saint.
>>337467556
There's a patch that fixes that.
>>337471539
Won't fix the voice actors saying "he" instead of she
>>337471626
I know it does fix the voiced dialogue, on the vita version at least.
>>337464930
Great remakes that even became the best games in the whole franchise.
>>337464930
I did enjoy P3P but wish we could get a combination of that and FES also fuck the
>le party commands destroys balance meme
if they're AI controlled you're hoping they cast the thing you want so why not control them and not rely on tactics and RNG?
>>337472098
I think the concept of the party members being AI controlled was interesting but poorly implemented. Your fate being in your parties hands was cool, but when you find out your party is retarded it's less cool.
>>337472297
they're not retarded if you actually know how to use it.
>>337472541
It's not hard to use tactics but you may as well just command them if you want them to do the thing you want them to do from the start anyway.
>>337472647
true, shame the only game that does that has a lot of other shitty things attached to it
>>337472541
You can tell them to do general stuff sure but they still make dumb decisions at random. Also if you have 49hp and another party member has 48hp they'll heal the other party member with the lower hp, which would be fine if you didn't get an auto game over when you died. Because using recarm on the MC is too hard I guess.
>>337472776
>if you have 49hp and another party member has 48hp they'll heal the other party member with the lower hp
but that's BS
>>337472541MARINKARINMINDCHARGE
>>337471112
It also makes the reaper exceedingly easy to kill in comparison to P3P, but continue to whine about pointless shit that nobody cares about. i'm sure one day somebody will listen.
>>337472861
>full assault
so hard.
>>337472897
>comparing a superboss to mobs
(You)
>>337472852
Is it? I remember that happening to me a lot in the answer but I only played through FES once.
>>337472541
LOVING EVERY LMAO
>>337471929
>friend insists that Silver is the bar-none the best Pokemon game
>even though Silver has ALL of its features and more and there's LITERALLY no reason to prefer the original over it
>>337473025
how are mobs harder to kill in fes master memer?
>>337473436
they're not, i'm saying that your "abuse knockdown" method is bullshit because it only applies to one optional boss in the whole game, you gotta be stupid to think "abusing knockdown" is a viable strategy in FES.
>>337473272
>using a damage dealer as your only heal method
>woooow stupid AI why is it so retarded.
>>337473025
Hes talking sbout Mitsuru not using a heal on you when you needed
Also
>having to go into the tactics menu every single time you want a party member to do ONE THING differently
Literally slower than direct commands and annoying as fuck. Enjoy your terminal cancer.
>>337465428
FES has - character models outside Tartarus, cut scenes, the answer (which is bad)
P3P has - quicker and better UI, the ability to control your partners, quick travel, a female protagonist, more demons, extra bosses
The thing is, there is no perfect version of P3. FES has the cut scenes and the character models everywhere which is nice but the gameplay is worse than P3P which is more visual novelly so you miss out on a lot of stuff. If someone were to mod FES to have all the things P3P had, that would be the perfect version
>>337473821
>quick travel
FES has this too
>>337473592
Ok then whats the difference between fes and p3p combat wise other than the fact that p3p gives you a bunch of things to make battling less tedium, such as direct command over your party.
>>337473025
Full Ass doesn't stop Mind Charge spam in worst situations. AI controlled teammates wasn't even a fun idea, just an interesting concept. Thank fuck they dropped it.
>>337473729
What if turn order dictates that I need healing on her specific turn or I die?
Pic related. Its FES.
>>337473896
>FES has this too
FES has square button fast travel? You sure?
>>337473789
>one thing differently
depends on the thing,
Also, i don't see how setting them from heal to attack and choosing a heal spell or an attack spell is different.
>>337473904
How about the fact that every single party member survives death once and can save you from death once per battle too?
How about spamming multi target spells for everything, making single target ones useless?
how about teammates consuming homonculus when YOU are the one that needs them?
how about the lack of fusion spells and putting a shitty "buy one use with ultra rare gems you only get like once every 10 battles" system instead?
>>337474049
>in worst situations
like?
>>337474091
>What if turn order dictates that I need healing on her specific turn or I die?
The only way that's possible is if either she's your only teammate (which is stupid) or you get your HP destroyed in two or three hits because enemies got the drop on you, which is preventable.
>>337474282
Kid in your class teleports you
>>337474775
>one specific spot you can only go to
Or
>just do it anywhere
>>337474492
>can save you from death
An improvement, since dying due to bullshit and AI memes is not "difficulty"
>spamming multi-target
How is this any different in FES? You use the best spell option you have for exploiting weaknesses, this tends to be a ma-series spell unless something specific denies it (such as an enemy reflecting it or absorbing it). Its not like party members weren't left out out of having multi-target spells. This is a meme argument, truly not worth noting or wasting time on.
>teammates using homunculus
Good. They can save my life now and also survive an attack with 1 hp so if anything this reduces my homunculus consumption. I also need these for Ken.
>lack of fusion spells
I know I already gave you alot of (you)'s but I guess I can spare another if you're that hungry for them.
>>337475131
>i'm lazy as shit, walking to a place for 4 seconds is too much
Ok then
>>337474775
>one enemy hits me for almost all my hp or and possibly maybe knocks me down
>the other enemy is gonna act right after mitsuru and possibly hit me
>mitsuru uses marin karin
>ken/yukari already acted or will act after the enemy
There is absolutely no way of denying that the AI shit could produce a myraid of bullshit situations even if they were rare.
>>337474492
>>337474775
>>337475271
>literally defending shit UI and mechanics because "muh 3D cutscenes"
You sound like someone who only played P3 and P4 and didn't like P4.
>>337465428
FES
>>337474492
>cursor memory
>choose repetitive attacks quickly or auto battle
>AI commands
>have to constantly switch characters between full assault or heal/support
>>337465428
FES.
>>337475616
>what is tactics memory
>>337465428
P3P.
>>337465428
Playany other RPG this SCRYED shit is a waste of time
>>337475481
>>one enemy hits me for almost all my hp
Either you're underlevelled as shit or you fought with low HP, your fault.
>>337475729
>still have to change tactics constantly
This is really just a matter of if you prefer having full control or not. At the end of the day it is completely arbitrary and if you want Akihiko to cast Zio he is going to cast Zio from either you commanding him to through tactics or through direct command.
>>337474049
>Mitsuru uses mind charge
>I change her command to knock down or to target an specific enemy
It wasn't so hard, you just need to actually use your brain and learn how everyone reacts under specific situations, which isn't so demanding when you're playing 90 hour game.
>>337475867
or you're fucking retarded i think thats the more plausible thing here
>>337475787
I'm sorry, what?
>>337475495
TOP KEK
PERSONA 4 BRONIES THINKING THEIR GAME IS GOOD
>>337476041
>have to constantly change battle tactics for minor shit like this
No thanks
>>337476089
The other, OTHER media franchise with stands.
>>337476207
It's not different from having to choose a skill every time, your moaning is stupid.
>>337476207
>tfw I have to select the skills manually each time I want my character to do something different
>mfw the game actually expects me to play it
This is you right now.
Maybe you should stick to something less demanding for your poor little brain, like SP Pokemon.
>>337476041
>have five HP left
>Mitsuru uses mind charge
Well I guess I need to commit to the DPS race now.
Fighting with three random number generators isn't fun or good.
>>337476446
Its much different since cursor memory is a thing.
I'll let you in on another obvious fact your shitposting likes to be oblivious to.
P3P still has AI commands, you can actually have a combination of both direct and AI commands at your disposal to elminate ANY sort if tedium.
So yes, its very different.
>>337476090
>revealing your true self by falling for easy bait
So my assumption was right, you only played P3 and P4, you didn't like P4 because of the story and you jack of to P3 because "muh feels". You also didn't touch anything else from the SMT franchise because it lacks high school waifus and feels.
>>337476523
>P3P also has AI commands
I think your pic is actually referring to you
>>337476685
>Its much different since cursor memory is a thing.
cursor memory on what, the enemies?
>>337476603
Again
>having Mitsuru as your only healer
you're a fucking retard
>>337476685
>>337476771
P3P removes tactic options you fucking idiots
>>337476446
>>337476523
>port of a game has both old AI commands and direct commands
>vast majority of people prefer direct commands and it's one of the most mentioned features of said port
I think this says enough about the shittyness of AI commands
>>337476603
>taking such a huge risk as letting your turn end while you have piss poor damage
>in a game where death would make you lose 40 minutes to an hour of progress
You have no one to blame but yourself, with that mentality you are gonna get raped in any other half challenging RPG.
>>337476771
I'm pretty sure the AI tactics of P3P are as simplified as the ones in P4, and there aren't that many options.
So it's far from being the same thing.
>>337477120
You literally can't use tactics in P3P because they don't work the same as FES you retard
>>337477273
Any proof of that? P3P does have the tactics menu.
>>337477172
Any other half challenging RPG lets you control your fucking party members directly.
>>337477064
>P3P removes tactic options you fucking idiots
It doesn't, but the AI is dumbed down somewhat.
>>337477064
>have two healers
>both use mind charge
>buff spells on party members are worthless because when health is topped off in support mode the AI attacks
>>337477064
>p3p removes battle tactics
Now I have absolutely confirmed that you are a waste if time
>>337477268
Battle Tactics
-Act Freely
-Full Assault
-Save SP
-Heal
-Direct Command
-Escape
-Orgia Mode (Aigis).
Fuck
Off
I hated Persona 3 because I'm retarded and couldn't get very far but it has the best music ever.
>>337477402
it removes some tactics options, you can't even put them on standby without direct control
>>337477460
>It doesn't
it does, since Full moons usually give you new tactics and P3P instead gives you other stuff, meaning you don't get new tactics
>>337477576
>no knock down
>no assign target
>no same target
>no attack fallen
> not even "don't do anything"
see? Tactics are unusable in P3P
>>337477712
>has the best music ever.
Bullshit. That's Catherine.
>>337477268
The fact that you can use both makes that argument irrelevant though. The debate at hand is that AI commands make random battles faster but also makes surviving bullshit a tedium.
P3P gives you both things and makes fights that you actually have to take seriously a lot better to handle.
>>337477172
Playing through Eo3 right now.
My healer actually heals and buffs me.
My tank actually defends.
Maybe if you want to autobattle and have four healers to minimize being fucked in the ass, fine by me, but I prefer a party that doesnt roll the dice whether or not it wants to comply or not.
>>337477829
I didn't know Catherine was set in the Persona universe but yeah I'd assume a puzzle game to have a sick soundtrack.
>>337477064
>P3P removes tactic options you fucking idiots
What have I been using all this time?
>>337477852
>The fact that you can use both makes that argument irrelevant though
>>337477756
>>337477756
>no knock down
Act freely and full assault literally already do this, pointless command that is only useful when you want to knock something down but don't have the element for it
>assign target
>same target
>attack fallen
Why do you need this when you have direct commands?
>don't do anything
Direct commands and that was replaced with the much more superior "defend" which I do not understand the reason for P3 not having
>>337476523
>>337476207
>I hate playing the game, let it play for me.
Fucking casuals.
>>337477460
Yes, and P3 really isn't.
And playing P3P makes it even worse.
At least switching tactics is more entertaining and thought provoking than spamming the same skill over and over again in the grind that is Tartarus.
>>337477998
>tactics in p3p are unusable
I feel like I'm arguing with some autstic manbaby that just wants to hate for the sake of being different.
>>337478132
>Why do you need this when you have direct commands?
can't you read? they are saying you can use both non direct and direct command in P3P, which is wrong
>>337478259
nice non-argument
>>337477576
Act Freely
Heal/Support
Conserve SP
Assign Target
Stand By
Full Assault
Knock Down
Same Target
Attack Fallen
Orgia Mode
Analyze/Full Analyze
Request Help
Oracle
I don't think so, Jim.
But I liked how the discussion shifted to: "b-b-ut we have tactics too!"
>>337478226
No I like playing it thats why U like direct commands.
Love the meme tho
>>337477920
BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY
BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY
BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY
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>>337477712
You should listen to the Reincarnation live album, it's pretty good.
Some of the movie rearrangements are decent, althought the movies themselves not so much, so please don't watch them.
>>337478339
>>337478339
Except that you didn't give an argument.
You literally said
>p3ps tactics are unusable
Basically you're an idiotic contrarian. Congratulations
>>337477920
It isn't, or at least it is not canon.
It still a great game though.
>>337465826
>people constantly refer to you as "He" when playing as a girl.
p3p confirmed for having first playable transgender character in gaming
>>337478226
>I want the dice to play the game for me
Messiah is the ultimate persona because it lets you heal the dice and youself so you can spend less time fumbling about with probability intergers.
>>337478343
>tactics you mostly use are readily available
>the obscure tactics you use in specific situations are replaced by the much more superior direct commands
Keep up that strawman anon
>>337478254
>At least switching tactics is more entertaining and thought provoking than spamming the same skill over and over again in the grind that is Tartarus.
>>337477853
If you're good at EO then godspeed, but don't pretend that you aren't playing P3 poorly if you could never learn to exploit the tactics, and had to switch to P3P just because you refused to learn how to play the game.
>>337478339
Because every single one of those tactics you listed are used in specific situations and the entire point of having direct commands was so you didn't have to constantly be switching through tactics every single time you encounter a situation like that.
So yes what the fuck is the point of having those when you have direct commands.
>>337475971
>Still have to choose different attacks constantly
>>337478623
You guys should be arguing over P3 and P4, not P3 FES and P3P.
P4 is such dogshit, Christ.
>>337478504
You're the one saying that you don't need tactics when you have direct commands, my argument is that you CAN'T because It doesn't have necessary tactics like knockdown, which if you don't have you'll get your teammates attacking the same enemy instead of knocking everyone down
>>337478614
>>337478762
>knock down
>obscure
>specific situations
are you stupid?
>>337478694
I played FES with tactics, it felt shitty and half the time I was Strange Journey guy dispensing items to the two healers that weren't me.
I still beat it, but I didn't enjoy it.
Fuck Walter, Dog Walter, Baseball Walter, Robot Walter, and Kid Walter.
>>337476728
P4 is the game SMTfags hate the most. Dafuq you talking about?
>>337478802
>P3 will never be as popular as P4
It's not fair.
>>337478996
SMTfags either don't consider Persona a part of the franchise at all or hate both P3 and P4.
>>337464930
>ITT: Weeaboo trash
>>337478962
>dispensing items
You should have had an actual healer, or heal yourself, you dummy.
Next thing you'll complain because you refused to use the spells and had to grind to win the game by using simple attacks.
>>337478802
These two debates are already heated enough. Lets start a waifu war while we're at it.
>>337479284
>Dispensing items to the two healers that weren't me
>>337478996
>>337479232
I hope you're all patrician megatenfags who embrace and master all the spin-offs.Or else that would explain why there are so many P3Pbabies ITT.
>>337478921
You don't get it at all.
You have the tactics that make battles faster by not having to give commands then you have direct commands for specific situations.
Stop being a contrarian fuck over something so miniscule and try to see the bigger picture
And yes knock down is obscure as fuck because they already aim for weaknesses in act freely or full assault, meaning that knock down is truly only useful if you don't want them to do any support at all or if they don't have something that can exploit the monsters weakness
>>337478772
>memory cursor
>>337479479
I just don't enjoy a game that tries to wrestle the gameplay out of my cold dead hands
I don't need another level of RNG and abstraction on top of what's already there
>>337479734
>And yes knock down is obscure as fuck because they already aim for weaknesses in act freely or full assault, meaning that knock down is truly only useful if you don't want them to do any support at all or if they don't have something that can exploit the monsters weakness
That's actually pretty useful. Especially when some party member is low on damage and you want the character who's gonna act next to do an attack instead of any kind of support action.
>>337479879
Why do you even mean by that?
There are a lot of spin-offs, they all play vastly differently, and most have different levels of difficulty.
>>337479921
>full assault
They fixed everything and threw in a much better ending.
>>337480052
Yes, or Knock Down.
I'm not trying to bash you, anon.
>>337480032
And that one is the only one in the series where all of the party members are random number generators.
Even Walter was more reliable.
>>337479734
>they already aim for weaknesses in act freely or full assault
but they don't focus on knocking everyone down, just a single enemy.
Do i really need to look up a video for you?
>>337480175
>>337480175
which means that knock down is pointless if you have direct commands, while full assault can still be useful
>>337480120
I never had the chance to play vanilla.
But all the content that OTR has, plus being able to play as the true OG was more than enough for me.
I also liked the fact that theGreenpeace bitch was the traitor instead of the chill security guard.
>>337479734
If a battle is simple enough that the AI can solve it without changing tactics much or at all, then it can also be fast forwarded by simply rushing the enemy.
AI tactics are overkill for simple battles and too stupid for critical boss battles
>>337480284
>if you have direct commands
if you have direct commands you don't need tactics at all, but that's not the argument here, the argument is that you CAN'T use both indirect and direct commands
>>337480219
>Even Walter was more reliable.
You must be jesting
>All this shitposting about P3P/FES
>Litterally not a word about Persona 4 Golden
>>337479000
>caring about a game's popularity in 2016
>>337480647
>having a Vita
>>337480765
>having a pspactually I have a psp, Vita, DS, Ds lite, DSi, and a 3DS
>>337480032
Like the other Anon said, I enjoy controlling my party memebers directly. Just like pretty much every other SMT game allows me to, including all the other games in the fucking Persona franchise.
AI party members in P3 are just a useless abstraction.
>>337480647
>Cringeshit 4
kek
>>337480243
Exactly which means its a pointless AI command to have when direct commands exist. While something like full assault can still be useful.
Direct commands are also a much more reliable way of doing something specific like that meaning that p3p has much better combat gameplay
>>337480547
You could rely on walter casting agi on something not weak to it 100% of the time, and either buff you or attack any other time, meaning if you know the boss's weakness you know if you should reload your save or not.
>>337480375
Not to mentionyou get to bang the hot asian reporter
>>337480454
Which is a stupid argument because you can.
>>337480845
Good for you, anon.
You're probably are above many people here.
>>337480647
>Erin Fitzgerald was a better Chie than Tracey Rooney
>Sam Riegel was a better Teddie than Dave Wittenberg
Go Ahead. Prove me wrong.You probably could
>>337480946
P3P has worse gameplay because of all the other stupid shit attached to it, stuff i listed here>>337474492
>>337481041
But you can't, the lack of knockdown makes it tedious and almost impossible.
You need to use direct commands to beat Nyx since her move that reflects everything can only be countered by the tactic "standby" which isn't present in P3P.
>>337480647
Not much to discuss about P4G. It perfected persona's battle system.
>>337481016
I thought she was aspic.
She at least reminds me of a girl from my french class.
>>337480647
>discussion is shitposting
also, P4G is easy as fuck and poses no challenge in both versions, no one bothers.
>>337481231
Discussing which Chie is better is like arguing whether eating shit is better than eating vomit.
JP voice actors or burst.
>>337481264
There's no difference between picking defend and standby
It's fucking rendundant, so that's why standby is not there
>>337481273
>p4 perfected persona's battle system
>Not P1 which the combat is going back to
>He can't sword and gun at the same time
>>337481559
>gun
Might as well play mainline and call it a day.
>Op makes a thread that is suppose to be about remakes. Turns into another Persona thread.
Fuck you faggots. Don't just make this about one series.
>>337481643
I do
>>337481515
There's no difference between full assault and using direct control for them to use their strongest skill, yet it's still there.
Also, you aren't reading what i'm saying, you can't go all game without using direct control, direct control is needed to put them on defnse
>>337481643
Why not all?
>>337481757
Because I like variety? DeSu is my favorite spinoff.
>>337481264
>>337481264
None if the things you listed are relevant or not a shitty nitpick, infact all of those things are improvements.
>the lack if knockdown makes it tedious
No because you're just going to select the same attack, so you can literally just have someone on full assault while giving direct commands to the ones that need to do something more specific
Why you would wanna do a boss fight with anything other than direct commands is beyond me though.
Your arguments are senseless bullshit.
>>337481669
It could have been, but people have only brought up like 3 other games, and that includes you.
>>337481845
I enjoyed OC a lot, although I struggled a bit to complete it.
I've heard so much shit from DeSu2 that I don't really want to get near it.
>>337481863
>I'll ignore every single on of your arguments by calling them nitpicks
Suit yourself.
>>337479232
>people hate P3/4
>They're the Persona games with the most spinoffs
now that's some comedic irony.i think
>>337482173
You are literally saying the game has no fusion spells
The rest is basically nitpicking that the game no lw has direct commands and allies can acually use items now.
Yes it is pretty much senseless bullshit.
>>337482173
>I don't like something
Nice argument there
No wonder it's futile to try changing your shitty opinion
>>337482473
SMT fans didn't buy them, secondaries did.
>>337464930
I don't like the portable version due to the fact I don't get to walk around a 3D space during the daytime.
>>337480647
P4G is perfect besides the inclusion of Marie.
