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why is this game so underlooked, its amazing
>>337434721
synergy mod is not out yet, thats why
>>337434794
what do you mean? the modding tools just came out btw, so wait a bit
>>337434721
Zero promotion by the developers.
High retail buy-in for a game with several notable competitors, one of which is objectively better. PoE boasts far more content, more items, more varied skills, wider build options, and a much larger community.
Not to mention they shot themselves in the foot by staying in Early Access for over 2 years.
>>337435002
>High retail buy in
Que?
>>337435002
>zero promo
true
>High retail buy-in for a game with several notable competitors, one of which is objectively better. PoE boasts far more content, more items, more varied skills, wider build options, and a much larger community.
It's 30 bucks, and no PoE is not "objectively better". I'd argue it's worse. Even though I do like PoE
>early memecess
true
>>337435258
Shouldn't you be building the wall right about now, Paco?
>>337435306
>I'd argue it's worse, but instead I'm going to ignore your objective points and just give my opinion
kek you're literally arguing from a subjective standpoint
Really though, OP asked why it failed and those are the reasons why. It's not up for debate. It's a decent game with incompetent handlers that will never gain more than a handful of followers.
>>337435258
Compared to its competition. Grim Dawn costs $25. PoE is free. Torchlight 2 is $20. Diablo 3 can be found for $10.
>>337435650
epik post
>>337434721
Little-to-no advertisement. About it.
>tfw trying to level too many alts at one time
>>337435002
>Not to mention they shot themselves in the foot by staying in Early Access for over 2 years.
I hope you're just acting retarded.
>>337436914
Are you saying that's not true or are you arguing in favor of early access being a good thing, anon?Either way you're wrong.
What are some other top tier ARPGs?
I've played through all the Diablo games, Titan Quest, and Divine Divinity. Have Grim Dawn but haven't played it yet.
>>337435002
Sorry to burst your shill bubble but GD is vastly superior to PoE. Or should I just call it PoS.
Game is objectively good, but it was in beta for a long, long time (I think people are generally aware of the dev size).
Also like someone else pointed out, advertisement was non existent.
Game came out Dead on Arrival. People were already done with the game by the time it was finished. Now everyone is waiting for mods and/or the expansion pack.
>>337434721
Eh. I wanted to make a pet build but I kept hearing they were pretty meh and the expac would add a lot of support for them so I decided to wait it out.
The game has so much shit you can do but I just can't go into these kind of games without having a good idea for a decent long term build so its been hard to muster up the motivation to really dive in.
>>337437834
Pet builds are already strong.
>>337437885
People tell me that. Then another person says they don't scale into high end stuff well, or you have to spend all your time running away because pets don't hold aggro at all, and other annoying things.
It's boring like every other diablo clone.
Why would you play this over PoE?
>>337438003
I've heard they're even stronger at high levels although aggro is a bit broken, yeah.
>>337438065
Because this isn't PoE.
>>337434721
It was in early access for about a decade
>>337438065
Because I got sick and tired of PoE "balancing" my favorite builds into garbage tier.
Because getting good gear in PoE requires me to by a business man instead of actually playing a videogame.
Because GGG hasn't added anything worthwhile to the game for years and I can only play the same acts over and over again so many times before I just don't care.
Because the community, that is supposedly one of the best parts of the game, is garbage.
Take your pick.
>>337435716
>Diablo 3 can be found for $10.
I assume you're talking about some shady key site, as Diablo 3 + RoS is around $40 practically everywhere. Diablo 3 by itself is basically worthless at this point.
>>337438335
maybe don't play a FOTM build if you don't want it nerfed
>>337435002
PoE is not objectively better.
GD is built around being a single player game that you can play with others. While PoE is build around being a multiplayer game. Making drops atrocious most of the time.
I love both, but when comparing them you have to keep in mind that PoE will force you into trading while Grim Dawn wont.
I do love GD and its my game of choice when im waiting for the next PoE league.
>>337438517
Every single build gets nerfed
unless by fotm you mean "builds that can actually handle maps at any point".
>>337438003
Aggro is broken, but pets are nuts. Its so nuts it gets a bit boring because they 1 shot most of the things, i hit lvl 65 or so with my pet build and the rapetrain shows no signs of slowing down.
>>337438740
that's not even remotely true
>>337438902
Yeah right. There is not a single build that was map viable when the game was released that is map viable now.
>>337437262
The early access was good. Claiming otherwise would be plain idiotic since they delivered all they promised and more.
Would you have preferred them to not release EA version of the game and just wait until Feb 2016? Not to mention the extra revenue from EA no doubt helped them out a lot.
You're also pretty stupid expecting ~10 people to do a fuckload of marketing and shit while developing the game.
>>337438741
What build you using?
>>337438991
Spark was, and still is viable.
Ofc the builds on release are not viable anymore, because many gems/passives/items came out that amplify those builds.
Fuck, people can and are still running dual strike with splash and it works in maps.
Bretty gud
>>337438991
being able to do maps is a pretty low barrier to entry
pretty much any skill can do maps
explosive arrow and caustic arrow have been viable from the start till now
>>337439095
>Not to mention the extra revenue from EA no doubt helped them out a lot.
It did, their original plan for the make was to make it as long as the first act and they ended up making it 4 times bigger. There's no other indie game that big at this price..
>>337439110
Im using something along these lines http://grimcalc.com/build/9EQrvL
I think at this point i dumped all the remaining points into the crow because why not.
The 1 point skills are important for triggering your devotions.
The devotions im 100% sure i have is the sheperds crook and the huntress (you can put rend on a pet)
>>337439095
>10 people
Maybe now, for the majority of the development time i think it was just 1 guy, with his friends (ex co employees) occasionally helping.
I think in the end some pretty big names or at least skilled fellas noticed the project and joined.
>>337439409
Is there no point in getting the pet upgrades?
>>337439095
>Would you have preferred them to not release EA version of the game and just wait until Feb 2016?
Yes? I didn't buy it until it was out of EA?
>>337439519
A lot of the times they slow down the dmg the pet does, especially for briarthorn, not so much for the occoltist pet. I mean if you have leftover points you can get them, i just did not need them up till now.
Oh and i also run like 5 auras, from items/upgrades, and get 1 aditional minion from my offhand. And a few that occasionally get summoned.
>>337434721
Because looking at it is almost as depressing as looking at Vermintide.
I wish they had made Titan Quest 2.
>>337434721
Underlooked? Game's been in beta for literal years and everyone already beat the thing 3 times over by now
>>337439672
So you can't say anything about the EA when you didn't even own it then.It was cheaper during EA, too ;)
>>337439672
You wouldn't have gotten the game you got now if it hadn't been EA, but a mere shadow. Ponder that for a bit.
Did the devs said anything about Titan Quest?
NordicGames is rebalancing the game, fixing multiplayer (Gamespy to Steamworks) and giving Steam Workshop support too.
>>337434721
Lack of marketing for the most part and one competitor being F2P. Also part of the genre's fanbase need the opportunity to compare their dicks online, so they want ladder systems, which GD doesn't provide. It'll probably never by the commercial success that D2 and PoE are.
I'd wager though that GD will still be played years after the servers of the currently more popular competitors have been shut down, just by virtue of it being playable without a tether (and being a good game). It's a great example of its genre and now that it's even fully moddable the longevity will only increase.
>>337439680
Try Occultist/Arcanist, your pets will do a metric fuckton of elemental damage
>>337441739
Meant to say "D3 and PoE", as current examples.
I loved Titan Quest and its setting - although never finished it due to it being far too much of a slog and wanting to try new builds, but i'm not a fan of the more modern setting and weapons (like pistols) of GD, is it good enough to still be worth a purchase?
>>337442371
Grim Dawn's setting is early industrial revolution on verge of an apocalypse with occultism, shamanism, studied magic and lovecraft
>>337442371
The pacing is much better in Grim Dawn, I feel like Act 1 is kind of a slog though, but maybe I've just done it too many times with the EA version.
I wish they would finish off the game. Not everything is resolved.
>>337443707
Agreed. I really liked TQ, but always thought its areas are too big for their own good. Whenever I played it, at some point I started thinking how this or that area seems to go on forever, before you reach the next significant point of story or gamplay interest. GD is better in that and various other regards, compared to TQ. Some area's still may seem a bit lengthy, especially if you want to uncover the whole map, but it's much less of a problem.
>>337443760
That's what the expansion will likely cover, at least the main story. We might even get something during the upcoming Hidden Path update.
>>337434721
I have the game but I dont see the point to it.
Maybe im just over the arpg genre, but like am I just supposed to grind gear? the gameplay is bland.
man, fuck me.
>>337443760
Did you beat it on ultimate?
>>337441548
Why would they, they don't have the rights
>>337445407
I don't know, their opinions about it? Like how Suckerpunch commented the job of Sly 4 done by another dev.
It seems that they are doing a fairly job, they added scaling damage based on Str and Dex on some spells, while also buffing some others spells that are always only picked at level 1 because the upgrades weren't worth the investments.
They also added fixes and shit done by the unofficial patch 1.71.
>>337441548
>>337445407
>>337445739
Wait, what? They're updating TQ?
http://steamcommunity.com/app/4550/discussions/0/412448158142593998/
Yes, they even added Russian & Czech localizations along with other fixes.
>>337446513
>26th February 2016 since update 1
>it's 11 now
Holy fuck I just want to play. When the beta finally end?
>>337448767
It looks like some pretty great changes though.
I'll likely give the game another run through once they have finished the patching.
Also hoping for some more mods thanks to this.
>>337448767
I found out this thing just a week ago, i'm patiently waiting for the ending of thse patches.
I would had given a try anyway when i heard they "stole" the unofficial patch 1.7 but i didn't knew they were willing to fix the game's balance by adding scaling damage types, poison and bleeding being an actually usefuk for Dex players and even buff the shitty spells that were useful only at level 1.
They could simply added multiplayer support and called it a day but now that's some fucking dedication.
