BF4 10-30hz tickrate (up to 144 at close range on some servers
BF Hardline 30hz tickrate
Titanfall 20-30hz
CoD Black Ops 3 20Hz
Destiny 10hz on pvp with 20hz on small maps.
Overwatch 20hz
Doom, probably the same shit.
CSGO 128hz tickrate
Quake live 128hz
Do you think low tickrate multiplayers are a good way to lower he skill
ceiling for your casual audience to enjoy the game more?
How could console and overwatch players not feel dirty knowing they are
playing a gimped game?
>inb4 You can tell when the framerate is bad. You can't tell when the TICKRATE is bad
lol, nerd
>>337370274
Overwatch has a 60hz send rate and a 20 hz receive rate.
>>337370274
>learning a new buzzword
here is your (you)
now fuck off
tickrate?
>>337370274
Welcome to modern gaming where they cater to casuals.
>>337371163
>overly edgy new blizzfriend spotted
>>337371289
the frenquency at which the server and client communicate.
That's fucking pathetic, the hit detection is noticeably bad, especially when using Roadhog or Widow.
>>337371060
the 20 packets send by the server do not magically trnasform into 60 so this is the limiting factor here.
20hz tickrate in the end.
Who cares, it's a casual game
>>337370274
literally no one gave a fuck or even knew about this till the whole overwatch thing appeared
fuck off
When BF4 updated to higher tickrates you could really notice a difference it was great
>>337370274
bf4 runs at 60hz on 48 player servers. stop lying.
>>337373261
wat
hitscan detection is lenient as fuck
you can play with 50-200ms jittering like a fucker and still hit everything because their server accept absolutely every shot
Why is it allowed to talk about update rate without talking about prediction?
Are there people unaware how one only makes sense in the context of another?
Why is this place so strange?
>>337370274
PC fags always making up excuses, first it was the 60 frames per ssecond shit, no they want 120 ticksrates per second.
Jus shut up and engoy your emulated ps1 games
>>337373951
Yes and with such low tickrate the experience is basically riding on the prediction system from the netcode.
You don't have a point here.
>>337370274
Why is hitscan still allowed in year of our Lord 2016?
>>337374357
The better question is, if the other fps are so much better, why are they wasting their time on Overwatch.
The game is a success.
The game didn't flop, your attempts to make a TOR 2.0 did.
Enjoy your last few days in TF2.
>>337374558
"Unnecessary" communication. It's the same reason you have all these low tick games in modern times, games are a buusness first now. Gotta cut every corner possible if it isn't noticeable to your average gamer.
>>337374357
console fags become increasingly butthurt over the years as the games they try to enjoy are not best version available.
Don't worry the industry catter to your child feelings by making every console multiplats equally ugly across every platforms.
Thanks for being part of the cancer, enjoy your 20 tickrate.
>>337374851
The Tortanic was a success initially. 10/10 scores everywhere and fanboys praising it to the moon and back.
It didn't implode overnight. It took about 5 months for the damage to really sink in and OW will be the same if not sooner.
Everyone will go back to TF2 because Blizzard doesn't understand that it was the modding community that cemented TF2.
>>337370274
I really don't like what blizzard has become, they're a second rate valve with tired franchises and clones of other companies games. The fact that anyone plays overwatch is amazing because I had it pegged as a failure at launch. I don't like imitation games, and games that are imitations of imitations are even more profoundly annoying. It's fucking awful that blizzard is still getting away with it.
>>337374851
someone is going to have a sad awakening in a few weeks.
Heroes of the storm 2.0 inc.
>>337375003
But it's pc fags that do the most complaining, it's always "consoles holding us back", and now tick rate is consoles fault and not blizzard's fault?
PCMR are the biggest babies, and I am saying that as an idort with a decent pc.
>>337375268
because it's a fucking multiplat casual console shooter.
Lowered skill ceiling is the name of the game here, everyone gets to frag.
CS:GO uses 64 tick servers
that's community and pro game servers you're thinking about
>>337375486
So play a "hardcore" shooting game. Who is forcing you to play overwatch? Not every game needs to cater to torney fags.
I don't give a fuck I'm having fun with that game and that's all that matters. Fuck your reports bullshit
post yfw autist spergging over this new buzzword instead of just enjoying this casual game
>>337375181
It got 10/10s because of paid reviews and precisely nobody but the biggest biodrones were excited for it.
I take it you weren't around back then when we had a good laugh in a thread where someone showed off all the shitty bullshit?
Where we had good laughs watching the streams?
You missed out anon, while it did ruin the board, those were great times.
>>337376062
>>337376094
FUCK YOU EVERY GAME NEEDS TO BE HARDCORE FOR HARDCORE GAYMERS LIKE ME THAT ONLY PLAY HARDCORE GAMES, REMOVE THIS WAIFU SHIT AND GIVE ME A REAL BLIZZARDS GAME BLIZZARD WHY DID YOU KILL ARENA? FUCK YOU YOU KILLED IT, YOU KILLED COMPETATIVE ARENA TO CATER TO CASUAL SCUM, YOU KILLED STAR CRAFT TO CATER TO CASUAL WHAT HAPPENED WHY IS HEARTHSTONE SO RNG RREEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
NO SKILL REQUIRED
>>337376094
>>337370274
>all those numbers
Yeah, you sure showed them there consolefags what's what.
>>337373275
but at 20/60 the game still plays out identically to 60/60, it might just take a mere 33 milliseconds more for the server-side update to reach you but you would still have been shot at/dead in both cases.
>>337375623
fair game =/= tourney
>>337373906
I've had to shoot literally ahead in time in order for the hit to register, shooting them where they were standing at the present time wasn't working.
>>337376491
What does tick rate have to do with being fair? You just have to be .05 seconds faster than the next guy.
They explain how it works here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTH2ZPgYujQ
Tick rate isn't the end all be all.
>>337370274
Overwatch has a tick rate of 60Hz, not 20.
The client updates the server at 60Hz, both the server and client simulate at 60Hz, and the server updates the client at 20Hz.
>>337376094
Never had any of the problems these morons are complaining about.
>>337373098
>>337371289
WRONG.
Tick rate is how often the game state is simulated.
You are thinking of updaterate and commandrate.
>csgo 128 tick
lol k whatever you say bud.
>>337376651
this is ridiculous. Why play a shooter in the first place if it is to be gimped by stupid designs?
It's a waste of time.
>>337376935
A link is always as slow as it's slowest speed. If I shoot a guy who looks like he's in front of me when really he's behind the wall, that's because the server didn't update me fast enough.
>>337377115
Then don't play?
>>337377198
ALL GAMES MUST BE MADE FOR ME
DOESNT MATTER IF I PLAY THEM OR NOT
>>337377174
That doesn't make the game run at 20Hz, anon, and that's more a result of client-side hit detection than the updaterate.
>>337377174
Most likely in this situation it isn't the servers fault, but you having a slower connection. If everyone has a smooth connection the current netcode is pretty robust.
>>337377292
Literally SJW tier shit, it's pretty annoying.
>>337376094
>new buzzword
People have been bitching about tick rates in online games for years. Your ignorance doesn't apply to everyone else.
>>337376798
>my blizz overlord answered to us, see we totally not getting it in the ass.
>>337377174
but the client side/your game interpolates and predicts where he is going anyway so you're not losing out on any critical information
>>337377363
people have been bitching about niggers for hundreds of years
doesnt make them right
>>337377545
Epic, simply epic my friend.
>>337377027
WRONG.
the game is simulated with the data sent and received by the server, at a frequency also known as tickrate.
The game gets simulated on every fps on every clients based on the prediction the server makes based on the data it receives.
>>337377545
What a great comparison, Anon. Video games and people of a certain race truly are identical and thus easily compared. My favorite part of all this is that asian people are 60fps.
>>337373759
Yeah especially with the around the corner or kill at same time incidents i don't get why they didn't start with that bitrate my guess is everything was rushed by EA
>>337377347
>I'm being cattered to, I must be right
here we go, neo-/v/ everyone.
>>337375190
if you honestly think valve is any better than blizzard you're retarded
>>337377545
reddit/tumblr is that you?
>>337377887
What's wrong with games made for me?
>>337376094
its the same fags that bitch about sjws i swear
protip life is way better if you arent a retard and you dont take video games seriously
>>337370274
>up to 144 at close range on some servers
>at close range
So you're literally parroting /v/ and actually have no idea what tickrate is?
That's fucking embarassing m8.
>>337377292
Well if other devs realize they can get away with cutting corners and the industry as a whole drops in quality I would think that's a fair reason to get upset. So why even give that a possibility of happening? There's nothing wrong with having reasonable standards.
>>337373637
It's a beneficial thing for oversea people that try to connect to servers
>>337370274
Is this tickrate shit the new pcuck buzzmeme after muh 60fps 1080p?
>>337378053
people playing thoses refuse to aknowledge their shortcomings. Even when it is a pretty bad game design like this one.
>but it's fun
>>337378293
>what are regional servers
>>337378204
and you just posted without knowing how BF4 tickrate work.
Good job. THAT is embarassing.
>>337378301
Something that is important that devs will try and pretend doesn't matter so that they don't have to put in the effort to make a quality game? Yes.
>>337378575
keep your meme fresh anon, recently the trend is in your favor, tickrate is a good shitposting fuel.
But guess what? I had fun, with a fuckton of games with low tickrate and Overwatch isn't some competitive shit so who cares apart from autists who won't play it anyways.
>>337378301
its the new valvedrone meme. now that overwatch is outdoing league of legends in waifu-bait all the autistic dotards have stopped brigading the league threads and started brigading the overwatch threads.
go check a league thread if you dont believe me, dota players / cs:go players are unequivocally retarded shitposters
>>337378758
>Overwatch isn't some competitive shit
Except Blizzard is trying to make it one.
>>337375190
>>337376451
THICKrate is THICK
>>337378758
>But guess what? I had fun, with a fuckton of games with low tickrate
And I bet you never noticed it you casual scrub.
You can thank me for bringing it up to you.
>>337376479
No, the sendrate is 20 pubplay, that's why you're killed behind walls. The receiverate is 60 in both pub and private matches.
>>337378803
>nothing but irrelevant claims and insults towards random people while blanketing anyone that plays [game]
>calling others shitposters
>>337373624
Fuckin this, shooters never took skill
>>337376094
/v/ is mostly shitposting during the day. Don't forget "artificial difficulty" that was spawned here.
>>337379306
Then why aren't you raking in all the easy "e-sports" money?
>>337379306
quake / 10 bait
can someone post the link of the youtube video about a guy explaining how tick rate worked in CS:GO, by moving a character against a wall similar to >>337373098 ?
i think that would help a lot in this thread
>>337378383
A luxury for a jewish company.
>CSGO 128hz tickrate
xD
>thickrate thread
>no meiposting
>>337379629
You can easily find 128 tick servers through the server browser but MM is only 64
Overwatch servers can go up to 60 or 64 in private matches but MM is 20
>>337379480
i found it
>>337379792
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EwaW2iz4iA
oops
What are you talking about? Everything was pretty fine and dandy for me. My bullets landed like they were suppose to, bodies after that.
>>337379419
I need a team holmes
>>337379901
>that delay between hits
holy shit that is horrendous
>>337373812
You can see the tick rate on the server browser, most of them are 20-30 Hz
Is there a reason why the game is 20 ticks? I haven't heard about tick rate much up until this but it seems like it would be a simple case of just cranking it up like those CS source servers. Does it make the game harder to run?
>>337378293
Wait.
Does this mean no BR and Slavs on their own containment servers?
>>337380201
You should be able to be to get into any team if you're that great.
>>337377028
>playing MM
>>337380453
Who knows man. Probably not but it would allow them to play on US servers without having an unplayable experience.
The people who whine about the tickrate clearly doesn't understand it fully. To be fair neither do I but the good people of Blizzard do. Tickrate is just one part of the netcode and everyone who played the beta knows the game plays perfectly fine.
>>337380680
wait what the fuck
they have global servers in the us?
no eu servers?
>>337380441
It increases the amount of bandwith spent, which means each individual server requires a faster connection, and when you've got thousands of servers, that can add up quickly. It's the reason a lot of multiplayer games use low tickrate.
>>337380837
Ok listen bud, I had a lot of fun getting killed behind walls thanks to tickrate. The video that revealed this initially shows this. So while it's correct that the game is played like it should (thanks to a receive rate of 60hz) I'm telegraphed as being dead after I'm behind a wall. It's a bit infuriating.
>>337380837
It plays well enough but dying behind cover and getting pulled around corners by Roadhog are frustrating as fuck
"tickrate" is the buzzword /v/ has decided to label Overwatch with.
There is always a new and exciting buzzword for every popular new release. Some phrase that means almost nothing, and is often provably incorrect, but /v/ will parrot endlessly at any mention of said game.
>>337381285
If you get shot behind walls in a way that you can perceive clearly it's because you have shit ping and higher tickrate wouldn't help that.
>>337370274
I don't even know what the fuck that means or noticed anything wrong and what it really means it doesn't fucking matter
>>337381285
>>337381376
Even with the best tickrate in the world, if you're lagging this shit will happen.
Actually, if the tickrate were higher this would happen MORE often if you have a bad connection.
>>337381430
>I have no clue how tickrate works
>>337381497
no one asked for your opinion frogfucker
kill yourself
>>337381579
The problem is that I do.
game is fun so who cares
i know we're all supposed to hate video games and everything blizzard does around here, but they made a good game
sorry you don't like it.
>>337370274
>BF4 10-30hz tickrate
>BF Hardline 30hz tickrate
>Lying and being retarded this hard
BFH and esp BF4 are pretty much 60Hz default on a ton of server (on PC) you idiot.
>CSGO 128hz tickrate
Spotted the CS fag. The actual avrg Tick is 64 on a ton of server
>>337381563
Happened to me very frequently even with <30 ping
>>337381609
stay mad
>>337381430
>>337381563
Except that's exactly what tickrate is you idiots. If you didn't watch the videos already I'll explain it to you as simply as possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHO6Ky-w0UQ&user=xFPxAUTh0r1ty
A client tickrate of 20 means you receive information from the server every 48ms. If you already have a ping of 50, this increases your ping to ALMOST 100 which can fuck up your shots monumentally.
>>337382198
The problem is, that even if the game was designed so that you "felt" every ms (which isn't the case for any modern game) you couldn't possibly feel half a tenth of a second in the dramatic manner tickfags are proposing, i. e. getting shot through a wall. That would require a lot more than 50 ms.
>>337382438
The issue is that a lot of the time the delay is more than 50ms. Look at 9:00 in that video. It's almost 500ms between shooting and taking damage. This happened to me a lot in overwatch even with pings as low as 48ms.
>>337382781
Interesting I'm sure. I'd rather watch the video where Blizzard explains how their netcode works. Tick is probably the least interesting thing about it.
>>337382198
what kind of faggot has 50 ping though
2 ping MAX
>>337383217
lemme just play on my friends server next door.
oh wait blizzard doesn't let us host our own servers
Oh wait,I don't have any friends
I pressed my not die button and then I died that's what makes me upset.
>>337383389
I have 1-2 ping always with mexican internet
fucking mexican internet
literally buildwall internet has better ping than yours
wat
>>337382996
If tickrate was higher I wouldn't be dying behind a wall, I'd be dying rightfully where I was. That is a lot less infuriating.
>>337383482
This is theoretically correct but the delay introduced by tickrate isn't perceivable in this manner.
>>337383464
Congratulations for having blizzard servers near you.
Now realize that ping has almost nothing to do with internet speed.
>mutual kills is a design choice
I don't really see the problem with it, it's pretty funny when you get into a shootout with someone and you both end up dead
>>337383571
It is though. The receiverate for servers is 60hz, which means all clients are sending data correctly. I'm receiving it late.
>>337383656
Unless you look like this you can't tell though.
Could the tickrate be better? Probably. Is it a big deal? No.
>>337382996
>let me gobble that PR blizz shat on us and let me parrot about it like a true blizzdrone
neo/v/ at full force.
>>337383749
>Unless you look like this you can't tell though.
I literally can though, I'm dying behind fucking walls.
Look at this shit: https://youtu.be/vHO6Ky-w0UQ?t=9m1s
>>337378008
Reddit/tumblr would be defending niggers my uneducated retard
>>337383970
As he said himself increasing the tickrate to 60 would improve the average delay by up to a third of a tenth of a second. That is not perceivable by anyone.
As for the explanation of why you're getting shot through walls watch Blizzard's explanation of their own netcode. It has also been tweaked since the beta this guy tested.
Improving tickrate doesn't eliminate normal lag and normal lag that all MP games have is the real killer.
>>337384185
>trusting blizzard
I'm going to trust my eyes. I never had this issue with TF2 unless my lag was above 150ms.
>>337370274
>tfw you didnt buy the game
>you dont care for this shit
>still love the shitposting
its undertale all over again
i fucking love /v/
>>337384573
You haven't been shot through a wall in TF2? Guess memes can really twist people's perception and their memory.
>>337384703
Not on fucking 90ms ping. I played for over 1000 hours so I have a bit of experience. Sure, crappy servers with bad tickrates would have that happen to me or when I played on Wi-Fi, but never on a wired connection.
>>337384694
>tfw you want to buy this game, but you do care about this shit so you don't
;_;
Can I just interrupt and tell the "who cares about this lol" faggots to fuck off? Are you trying this hard to be a normie? You're on a fucking video game board.
>>337383464
What ISP and state?
