When will PC harness true power like PS4 does?
When will people stop giving a shit about graffix and put more focus onto gameplay?
nice resolution bro
Textures look like a ps2 game
is that real life
>>337323432
when you stop being a tripshit
>>337323441
seriously. That clocktower looks like something a fucking wii would run
Making a thread about a PS4 exclusive is tough enough on this board, focusing it on graphics is just asking for trouble
>>337323635
It's mostly hard because there's only one worth posting about and it's over a year old
>>337323376
i don't remember assassin's creed look so ugly
Isn't the point of dx12 to give game developers lower level access to the cards so dx12 games perform better?
>>337323376
Tomorrow
>>337323376
Never, because making a PC game only people with $1000 graphic cards can play maxed out is suicidal. Mistake Crysis made back in the day.
>>337323486
Hi newfriend.
>>337323376
There's not much of a market for high graphic games on PC because a) most PC players, despite what /v/ would have you believe, always have PC's less powerful than the current gen consoles. And b) PC players pirate, meaning less sales so games have to be cheaper or not made at all. Just look at the most popular PC games, CSGO, DOTA, and LoL. All have low end graphics. A game like uncharted, released on PC, would be unable to run on most PC's, and pirated on half of those who could run it.
That's a pretty ugly jpg skybox you got there.
>>337323376
>Power
>30fps
Hhahahahahahhaahahahahaaaaaaa
>>337324446
this
there's not much else to say about it
>>337324317
Hi faggot
>>337323486
red is one of the very few acceptable trip posters
>>337324446
Piracy on PC is not nearly as prevalent as everyone wants to pretend it is. PC games sell for so cheap that the majority would rather just buy a game they like than to deal with possible bugs from a shoddy version.
Everyone likes to foam at the mouth about how consoles make so many more sales, but despite a console game selling for $60+, the publisher doesn't get as much cash per sale as they would releasing it on PC.
On top of that, pirated games aren't "losing" sales anyway, and most people pirate games because they don't feel the need to buy them in the first place.
>>337324915
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/110154/Crysis_Developer_Puts_Piracy_Ratio_At_120.php
http://www.pcgamer.com/crysis-2-most-pirated-pc-game-of-2011/
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/forums/showthread.php?4427-Crysis-3-to-be-Most-pirated-game-of-2013-probably
>>337324776
>sucking tripfag dick
cancer
>>337323376
When will the PS4 provide more than 1 game that's more fun to play than watch?
>>337323432
When will you start posting ecchi? Preferably catgirls or tomboys.
>>337324915
>the publisher doesn't get as much cash per sale as they would releasing it on PC.
same goes on pc since steam is cutting 30% from general sales
>>337324997
I think you might be retarded, or you have a problem with reading comprehension.
>http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/110154/Crysis_Developer_Puts_Piracy_Ratio_At_120.php
>>Yerli speculated that the ration between sales to piracy is probably between 1 to 15 and 1 to 20.
>>speculated
>>Company still turned a profit.
So it's basically baseless speculation on his part here.
>http://www.pcgamer.com/crysis-2-most-pirated-pc-game-of-2011/
>>The numbers were collated from stats put out by public BitTorrent trackers.
This is not a reliable source, as it doesn't track entire downloads of an entire file. P2P downloads in general can't be reliably tracked.
All this says is that the files were accessed that many times. There's no way of knowing how many "illegal copies" actually got downloaded wholly. Also, most of those games are online multiplayer and are popular on top of that, and still sold in the millions and made huge profits, so your argument of how PC games are less profitable doesn't work here, even with all these barely useful information.
>https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/forums/showthread.php?4427-Crysis-3-to-be-Most-pirated-game-of-2013-probably
>>RPS
>>"Probably" right in the title.
Yeah, no, nice try, but you failed to provide a strong basis for your point.
Especially since Blizzard, Activision, EA, and a ton of other developers make massive profits on PC gaming every year, and it continues to rise.
There's 0 indication of piracy affecting PC developers to such an extent that they can't release games on the platform. Even in the articles you linked, all of those companies still turned profits on those games, even the idiot Crysis 2 devs.
>>337325703
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-witcher-2-pirated-45-million-times-cd-projekt/1100-6346876/
http://www.destructoid.com/only-4-of-volgarr-the-viking-players-bought-the-game-264070.phtml
http://www.lazygamer.net/gaming-news/playstation/ps3/this-is-why-gta-v-isnt-on-pc-yet/
gta v sold 50 million copies on consoles
gta v sold 4 millon copies on pc
>>337325703
a little bonus
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Witcher-3-Wouldn-t-Exist-Consoles-72064.html
http://gamerant.com/the-witcher-3-sales-pc-consoles-125/
>>337326236
so witcher 3 sold the same as on the other platforms
wow what a big suprise
+yes withcher 3 in its form would not be possible without consoles, but at the same time I am sure that we would have gotten a better game were it PC only.
>>337326114
>http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-witcher-2-pirated-45-million-times-cd-projekt/1100-6346876/
>>"Concurrent downloads" - no source on how they know this number.
>>estimation that The Witcher 2 has been pirated more than 4.5 million times.
>>Estimation, another ass-pull based on nothing.
>http://www.destructoid.com/only-4-of-volgarr-the-viking-players-bought-the-game-264070.phtml
>>About 4% of the people playing Volgarr paid for it.
Again no source on how he knows this other than he saw some numbers on a DL site, which I've already explained are NOT reliable. It's also some no-name kikestarter shit.
>http://www.lazygamer.net/gaming-news/playstation/ps3/this-is-why-gta-v-isnt-on-pc-yet/
A game that releases months after a platform sees less sales. What a surprise, clearly it's piracy.
>>337326236
>bonus
Articles talking about how a low-budget company needs as much money as possible, so they designed their latest game to bank on a wider audience. On top of that the Witcher 3 is almost a point against you, but we already established that you can't really read very well.
No mention of piracy in either of those. This doesn't include the fact that both Witcher 3 and GTV have bad system reqs, with GTV's being almost absurd due to lazy porting.
Long story short, you're actually falling for the game dev's "Piracy Boogieman" stories, because you're an idiot that wants to prove some point with no basis and doesn't even matter.
>>337326685
>I am sure that we would have gotten a better game were it PC only.
wow what a big suprise
still not going to happen thanks to pc piracy
what about this one>>337326114 bro
got anything to say?
>>337323635
Grapihcs is all they have. And even then they forget the fact the game was created using PC in the first place.
So it's not like PC couldn't run it. It just wasn't ported to the system since "exlusive."
>>337326857
yeah withcer 2 was a great success on PC
hennce why you guys can play witcher 3 now.
yes, gta 5 sold more on consoles
How it basically works
You pirate and mr Goldstein can't buy a golden boat
poor mr goldstein has to buy a silver boat instead.
>>337326837
>Long story short, you're actually falling for the game dev's "Piracy Boogieman" stories, because you're an idiot that wants to prove some point with no basis and doesn't even matter.
so far you're the one who post his own subjective opinions against facts
>>337327032
>yes, gta 5 sold more on consoles
much more?
>>337327154
yes
>>337326910
>And even then they forget the fact the game was created using PC in the first place.
I think it takes some long-bred retardation to actually make this sort of statement.
>>337327101
>Speculation
>Facts
HAH
>>337327205
why?
>>337327071
Is that how you justify stealing?
>>337327239
GTA is a franchise literally built to sell consoles. No one bought a PS4 for bloodborne, they bought it for a slightly better GTA5. I also guarantee you that GTA6 will top the PS4's sales charts, and also have a console bundle of its own.
>>337323432
>When will people stop giving a shit about graffix and put more focus onto gameplay?
We already tried that with Nioh and normies were crying and calling for mommy instantly and every PC clown emerged out of the wood work to shit on the games frame rate and graphics. Remember?
Games have to be casual shit or hard shit that has been casualized enough for reddit babies to be good now. Dark souls 3 was the easiest souls game there was.
That being said you don't play uncharted for the fucking gameplay, its there, its basic and standard as fuck but different games offer different experiences, just like I don't play souls games for story and character developeent and huge action set pieces in tropical islands.
>>337327239
It is a dude bro game.
There are enough examples of games selling more on PC.
Darksouls, XCOM, TES, Fallout
>>337327232
>Speculation
still more reliable than your babbling
thanks to scumbags like you we have things like steam, uplay, origins and denuvo
>>337323376
5 years ago?
>>337327357
>GTA V was a game delayed to sell out old consoles, then sell new consoles
Originals came out on PC and were ported. Best versions were always PC.
They can't hold exclusives anymore so they hold release times. The bedrock is getting lose on which they stand.
>>337327378
tbpfhwyf (to be perfectly fucking honest with you fampachi) barely being able to do 60FPS at fucking 720p is a joke. The PS4 is stronger than that, but it's literally, ACTUALLY okay when Japan does it. Nioh dips down to as low as 37 FPS, Star Fox Zero, also at 720p, dipped down to 44 FPS.
>>337327381
souls series sold more on consoles
same goes for fallout
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Fallout-4-Has-Made-Tons-Money-So-Far-98947.html
tes sold more on pc thanks to $5 sales and mods
>>337324776
hahaha no
he is one of the fucking gayest with some of the worst opinions.
>>337327389
The irony is that I haven't played anything on PC since D3 was released.
You're just making another, virtually baseless assumption, and trying to imply that it has merit, just like all the retards in those articles you linked, and you have no ability to refute anything I said, at all, because there's no sources anywhere that are reliable enough to actually implicate piracy affecting game sales.
You're in the same boat as those retards that try to say movies are somehow losing money to bootleggers when we get record-breaking box-office numbers annually, and have been for nearly a decade.
Just admit you don't know what you're talking about, you'll probably feel better.
>>337327357
Ratchet and topped PS4 software sales in various countries and has consistently been the top PSN seller for months on end after release
>>337327512
Yah Nioh needs some serious optimization and SEJ need to step in and do it, they might as well publish the game as well at that point but we'll see what happens. That being said, it is one of the most AAA-like gameplay focused games I've played year, very reminicient of an old school game brought into the modern era.
>>337323432
>When will people stop giving a shit about graffix and put more focus onto gameplay?
They do focus on gameplay. You don't think QTEs are intense gameplay?
>>337327502
With what?
>inb4 Crysis where all screenshots looks the same covered by leaves
>>337327527
that link.
are you retarded?
It obviously shows how PC sold more
>>337327389
His babbling is logic against speculation, that's why he's using those arguments. He is stating facts that all those companies who are crying about piracy are turning bad ass profits, the fact that all those companies were built on PC where piracy always existed, they made profits then, they are making them now.
There are no sources cited in those articles, not one argument has some sort of reliable statistics or any serious research to back it up.
So the only FACT that remains here is, those companies you cited are rich as fuck and turning profit after profit and they were all built on PC where piracy was always present.
>>337327775
>are you retarded?
are you?
http://steamspy.com/app/377160
Owners: 3,131,785
>>337327856
yes and how many did it sell on ps4?
>>337327224
>I don't like the truth so I'll insult you.
It's funny seeing the idiots reply. You really have no clue how any of it works.
>>337327502
Only reason GTA5 took 2 years to come to PC was so that they could sell two console batches. Otherwise, it would've come to PC a few months time. You are delusional if you don't think the platform holders have special deals with the big publishers.
>>337327710
>Nioh needs some serious optimization and SEJ need to step in and do it
There's a reason why the game is called Nioh, and why the new PS4 is called the Neo. This is going to be the first of many "either compromise or spend extra for the best version" games to come. If anything, SCEJ is going to find a way to make it run worse, the PS4 has some potential to run it at 1080 60 if they tried hard enough. But the Japanese are even bigger Jews than the Jews are.
>>337327774
Crysis got passed a long time ago it was on legendary in 07 for being badly optimized, but pretty. Shit Witcher games are old now and plenty of others. Modded up Stalker has been there for years too.
PS4 is a toned down 7850. It does well, but its by no means some new standard. Impressive for the console's price. But consoles have never been bought for their power (well maybe NES until PC took a leap soon after).
>>337327786
>His
you mean yours
gaming profits back then where nothing compared to today profists
keep pirating games bro, i can't wait for more denuvo tittles
>>337327998
>Only reason GTA5 took 2 years to come to PC was so that they could sell two console batches. Otherwise, it would've come to PC a few months time. You are delusional if you don't think the platform holders have special deals with the big publishers.
This is exactly what I said. They delayed launches to sell out old stock of PS3/360 and then start on their new batch. So thank you for agreeing?
>>337323376
Reminder
>>337327904
fallout 4 sold 12 millon in total, sold 3 millon on pc
do the math
your iq is low
>>337327786
And somehow in the middle of this, PC as a gaming platform became a joke after 2009 because nobody wanted to development anything for it anymore beside indie and moba trash. Seriously where's PC's flagship AAA title? Is it still stuck in kickstarter or did it bomb like every other one that's tried to fill the void of a lack of proper developer support?
PC is a platform for console ports, its was finished years ago.
Meanwhile consoles continuously get better games and better AAA's and is still the focal point of the industry. PC will always be secondary citizens to developers and in the industry at whole. PC really has little to no fucking games justifying it these days and the more games console yet, the more pronounced this fact is.
>>337328019
>But consoles have never been bought for their power
underage detected
>>337324776
Literally kill yourself red
>>337328019
>NES
>the console that can't display more than two characters on screen before going completely epileptic
>the console that can barely run ancient shmups before it crawls at 10-20FPS due to the anemic 1.8 MHz CPU.
>>337328132
>Meanwhile consoles continuously get better games and better AAA's and is still the focal point of the industry
It's almost as if Sony and Microsoft can fund exclusives for their consoles or some shit.
>>337326910
>It just wasn't ported to the system since "exlusive."
Well yeah, obviously. People also forget the fact that the game wouldn't exist without Sony anyway. Who do you think is funding and marketing this work?
Nobody is stopping somebody from making a game like Uncharted for the PC yet nobody has yet. Tomb Raider is the closest thing but look what happened to that, it was dead on arrival because it was a timed exclusive to a platform that only Americans are dumb enough to own.
>>337328128
no you moron even your article states it that these are shiped units and not sales.
Over on the official Bethesda website they announced that they have 12 million units available of the game the world around in order to “meet demand”.
how fucking dumb can you get as a person
>>337328026
Nah, that's not me. I really don't need to pretend to be two people to destroy your terrible lack of citations, especially since you've consecutively linked articles that prove you wrong.
It actually feels weird that I'm almost defending piracy in these arguments, but you're so incapable of coherent thought that I've somehow fallen into doing it just to ensure you're BTFO.
>>337327998
>There's a reason why the game is called Nioh, and why the new PS4 is called the Neo. This is going to be the first of many "either compromise or spend extra for the best version" games to come. If anything, SCEJ is going to find a way to make it run worse, the PS4 has some potential to run it at 1080 60 if they tried hard enough. But the Japanese are even bigger Jews than the Jews are.
They aren't jew in the slightest, what's jew are companies like fucking EA and Ubisoft. What's fucking jew about giving people an 8 hour demo? I don't get it it. When Sony publishes a game, it isn't going to be somehow held back by the hardware, that's counter productive to the very intention of fucking doing it. Rubbish conspiracy theories.
>>337328308
and yet you're still wasting your life here with me
how fitting
think about your death anon, think about death in general
>>337328240
>Epic creates the quintessential dudebro franchise that destroyed the video game market as we know it
>is also singlehandedly responsible for bloating development budgets for all games
>but PC has piracy...
>but console budgets just keep going up and up
Well if you don't want your games to be pirated, don't make shit games. No one liked Unreal 2.
>>337328274
>It's almost as if Sony and Microsoft can fund exclusives for their consoles or some shit.
Many third parties keep choosing to make games for console instead of PC though. Actual exclusives are always the smaller range fo software valiable for the system
>>337328225
I mentioned the NES. Its PPU was a huge advantage that was only roughly copied in CPU with games like Keen. But by the point of SNES it was partly made of old Apple parts and late stage DOS games were getting superior on technicals and Windows was taking launch as well, largely thanks to Doom. And by the gen after VGA cards were starting to dominate and by the time OpenGL and Quake that game was check and mate rarely to be even close again.
So no they weren't outside the one exception. Consoles sell on cheap and easy, a lesson they seem to be forgetting lately.
>>337328462
I'm watching a movie, and I'm refuting your stupidity at the same time. I am using my free time optimally.
>>337328513
>Many third parties keep choosing to make games for console instead of PC though.
Japanese companies, yes, but only because there's only one platform in Japan; Sony's. Most western companies go multi.
>>337328516
The SNES was vastly outclassed by the Amiga, a computer from 1985.
>>337328651
>I'm watching a movie, and I'm refuting your stupidity at the same time. I am using my free time optimally.
You can't watch a movie and shitpost at the same time, you're either pausing the movie, shitposting then unpausing the movie or you're letting it play and literally missing the media you originally planed to consume just reply to that guy, you are wasting your life on and with him and he had literally become an obstruction in your life
>>337323376
> true power
> dat view distance, lower than the lowest slider settings on the PC
> true power
> if you mean PS4 has completely harnessed all of its capability, that's true, that shitty visuals is the most it can put out
>>337328274
Yes the NES stacked up to PCs at the time with its ability to have a color palette not in cyan and magenta, have you seen PC Megaman or Commander Keen?
Smooth scrolling was a big deal in the day and that didn't come from the CPU, which at the time PCs were entirely CPU driven. Hell its part of why Keen got so popular for faking the effect. VGA cards took off after and created a big gap between consoles and PC. But ya Mario's quick action and smoothness was BFD at the time.
>>337328290
Well more like tomb raider was DoA cause it was relased aganist better competition. Not to mention the seires has been around far longer.
>Well yeah, obviously. People also forget the fact that the game wouldn't exist without Sony anyway.
Well Naughty Dog is owned by Sony, so it's not really so much it wouldn't exist if it wasn't for sony but rather it's exclusive because sony owns the company.
>>337328805
> dat view distance, lower than the lowest slider settings on the PC
nice joke
>>337328787
>You can't watch a movie and shitpost at the same time, you're either pausing the movie
Wow you have to be a special kind of retarded, if you can't view media and type at the same time.
>>337328132
Ok, give me one AAA title worth my time, and consider that my time is the most valuable resource I have, to put into perspective my time is more valuable to me than Spice is in the Dune universe.
Oh and it must be a game, not a setup fr a franchise, not a commercial for toys, etc, in short it must not be a product of market statistics, it must be a passionate title infused with heart, intelligence, a backbone and balls.
Name me one AAA title in the last 5 years worth my time.
>>337323376
> press X to use rope
>>337328759
Okay? I seem to recall mentioning the SNES being made partly of old PC parts. Apple GS II if I recall. So yes I agree with that. But at the time of 1985 this look was more common.
By the time of SNES Doom was out and nothing was the same again and consoles just got rough half assed ports.
>>337324446
The cards in the Steam hardware survey say otherwise. All the non-mobile cards here SHIT on the current consoles.
>>337328912
use all the official promotional material you want. It doesnt even look as good as The Last of Us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh5PqzUeL-U
>>337328931
Sure you can play media and type at the same time but your are simply not going to be absorbing the media that's being displayed on the screen in any saleable matter while simultaneously mentally focusing on replying to somebody on 4chan. He is wasting your time weather you realize it or not, and probably cucked your wife too
>>337328240
>>337329142
>promotional material
That's in-game screenshot. And I must've sold TLOU before I got to that area because the main game looked and played like crap. That laughter is infectious though LMAO
