I like this game. Started playing recently.
Why does everyone else hate it?
I hate LoL/Dota but I don't mind this game. Is blizzards cock just deep in my ass?
>>337299038
maybe. the level layouts/gimmicks are neat but everything else is shallow and it all feels painfully slow-paced compared to others
you like it because its simple and easy to get into. Its a moba for people who hate mobas. People shit on it because its not as challenging as LoL or dota and its made by blizzard.
>>337299316
I'm not bashing on you, but how can it be slow paced when the matches are 20 mins average and average doto is double at best? stalling only gets so far and it's usually because of double supp comp that aren't that popular atm
I want to like it but I hate having to rely on random people to work together and win. That isn't so much a complaint against HotS as it is against mobas in general. You can do everything right in your lane but the retard on bottom lane can fuck everything up.
>>337299316
>and it all feels painfully slow-paced compared to others
not it doesn't, the fact there's teamfights off the bat sets it's own pace that's niche compared to the snooze fest games of the past.
>>337299038
Because it's a game specifically made to appeal to people who DON'T like LoL and Dota.
Thus, people who like LoL and Dota tend to not like it, and a lot of people like LoL and Dota.
>>337299470
Over sooner does not equal faster. It's like a professional marathon runner and a fat guy doing 100 meters.
They don't really have a ton in common. There are elements in LoL and DOTA that are entirely absent from HOTS. Farming last hitting etc. Plus the games are much quicker so you don't feel held hostage in a shitty slow 40 minute fuckfest where you don't get to leave your base but they won't end because the fun of the game for some people is being ahead not actually winning.
>>337299576
>Snorefest ticklefights from the beginning to the end
>Suspense and buildup with explosive, high impact fights
I'll take door number two
>>337299652
to be fair I haven't played LoL since 2009 and Dota since beta
>>337299572
This is probably the game biggest weakness.A single person can't carry a game (wich isn't a bad thing) but a single dumbass that gets picked off in the late game doing retarded shit alone can cost you the game.
I wish i had 4 people to play team league or something all the time but i get 2-3 at best, and you can get matched against a 5 stack and that's a nightmare 70% of the time
>>337299432
This sums it up pretty well.
>Simplified gameplay
>Levels are shared, no feeding bullshit
>Characters you (probably) know
>No incredible thought required for anything outside of autist ranked
I'm playing right now, and I just killed two guys as Diablo in the first three minutes. Team fights end up being violent and clustered as fuck.
It has some interesting concepts.
I have never had as much fun with a MOBA as I did playing Chen.
Anyone else think the garden map is the worse map in the game?
>>337299470
>>337299576
all the combat and moving feels sluggish, the game needs mounts ffs
dota 2 the matches can be drawn out but the action is consistently faster and more engaging: haven't seen an enemy in 10 minutes? better fucking snap to it the SECOND he shows himself to see what items and levels he's stacked since last time you saw him
even the teamfights in hots felt kinda sluggish
but this is just my opinion
>>337299741
nah i can clearly tell you have no experience playing the game.
>>337299850
>I have no argument so you just haven't played it!
Every time.
>tfw the power creep fucked over the lost vikings
I remember when The Lost Vikings were a free win.
>>337299819
press z bro
>>337299785
I would change what you said from "the game's biggest weakness" to "the genre's biggest weakness."
I wish I had people to play with too. But my friends are too normal to play things like HotS or really any mobas.
>>337299819
I can totally understand that, they constantly say that they want to make the game really bursty, stuff like greymane and li ming are a nice example, and the next hero about to be released
>>337299979
Nigga i have them sitting at 1k exp from 15, i thought that nothing would top li-ming in vikings value, but then they released tracer. Dosen't help that both are extremely popular.
And when you don't get them your teammates don't even roam for kills since all the lines are covered. Fuck that shit
>>337299910
it's not sluggish if you know what you're doing, clearly you haven't played Tracer or Li Ming against competent opponents.
>>337299038
If you like mobas, there are simply better mobas.
If you don't like mobas, you probably won't like this.
It's like asking why everyone hates go fish compared to poker. Its not impossible to have fun, but its not quite as good an experience.
>>337299790
>>337299741
these guys get it
>>337300171
I didn't say "sluggish," I said snorefest ticklefights.
But even then, dashing around all over the place doesn't magically make the game "fast" when there's still comparatively next to no burst or hard CC.
>>337299038
It's a decent game OP. Good on you for enjoying games. It's better with friends.
>>337300280
There's plenty of burst and hard cc do you even play the game?
This is the moba out of all the games out there that has the most impact when it comes to actual body blocking in mid combat too.
>>337300280
Let me guess, you're rank 38?
>>337300369
Do you know what the word "comparative" means?
>>337300291
Yeah well I might revisit LoL or Dota, I have probably 2-3 hours tops in both, and LoL was in 2009 and Dota 2 in its beta in like 2011.
I'll try both.
HoTS just clicked with me, the smaller map, and objectives and stuff, I just liked how it plays.
>>337300520
do you know what the words "no argument" means?
>>337299038
People who "hate" it are just bored shitposters.
The same thing applies to most games. People who like the game are actually playing it instead of browsing angrychan.
>>337299038
>get hearthstone because card games are fun
>get sucked into blizzard
>tfw i must own all blizzard games now
>FUCK
>>337299038
100+ hours HoTS veteran here
Putting aside the dumb meme complaints like items and last hitting, what drove me from Heroes was Blizzard continually fucking the balance up with the hero releases. Our tank and support choices were suboptimal, specialists were a gimmick pick, but boy oh boy here's yet another OP DPS hero!
>>337300718
Yeah, it's that thing you have
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAF7sIH5UNM
>>337300756
Overwatch 2 weeks anon ;_:
JUST let me play blizzard.
>>337300783
I noticed people who talk in the general HoTS chat are such toxic cancer, is this just the norm for these games?
Also I've only played AI games leveling up free heroes, not a real game yet.
>>337300716
Don't bother with dota.
As someone with 3k hours, its getting worse every patch. This latest one just fucked everything. I'm considering abandoning ship, but muh sunk cost.
>>337300718
I've played plenty of both and he has a point. Spells in dota are fucking ridiculous. Not too many other games have large aoe 4 second stuns in a game with damage values that high. It's not too rare to see entire teams killed because of one spell. They have an item that makes you immune to magic and it's borderline necessary in a lot of matches.
Eating a gazlowe combo is the closest thing hots has but it's really avoidable instead of instant with the aid of a blink.
>>337299038
Damage is weak as shit at low levels, team levels mean that if one team pops 10 in the middle of an objective they generally wipe the other team.
>>337300756
Blizzard are the masters of cross promotion. You can't play only one of their games.
>>337300879
Its the norm for mobas and fps until you rank up a bit.
Better players, slightly better community.
>>337300872
>same shit poster from 2 years ago still shilling his shill video
Yeah let's compare beta footage from 2 years ago to the most intense and climactic 20 seconds of a 1 hour long Dota match! That'll show him!
>>337300879
Low to mid level players tend to be the most vocal I've noticed. Dunning kruger shitheads are too bad to see their own mistakes but are capable of noticing other mistakes. Almost all of them seem to believe they belong higher than they are despite evidence to the contrary.
I noticed a lot less chatter and a lot more pings or short statements as I climbed the ranks.
>>337300879
>I noticed people who talk in the general HoTS chat are such toxic cancer, is this just the norm for these games?
Most of the people in general chat are turboshitters. /vg/ chat was even worse, you have people like senjinn and memermonk shitting on everyone for everything
Then again the top players openly use smurfs to boost their MMR while acting they are gods gift to gaming. I'm going on a rant here but yeah the fanbase sucks
>>337301129
Show me a single high level HotS fight that's anything close to the dota clips in that video
>>337299038
>Why does everyone else hate it?
Some people enjoy it, and that makes /v/ hate it even more.
>>337300906
I don't need to be lectured on DotA, I played for a decade before switching over to HotS.
People here somehow miraculously forget to mention that spell impact is only really a big deal at lvl 7, 10 and 16.
In between those levels it feels like using un-upgraded boring skills.
>>337299741
>hots doesn't have explosive teamfights
Past your bedtime, kiddo
>>337301360
>unironically defends Little Tykes® My First Dota™
>calls anyone else a kid
>>337301289
Fair enough. I usually play hots if I want to play a moba so I wasn't shitting on it. Generally speaking though I prefer 1v1. Fuck coordinating with strangers.
>can play 3 full games of hots in the time it takes to finish one """"""""game""""""" of dota2 where all that happenes is that one team sits in base while the other team gets 7 slotted because of horrendous rubberbanding punishes any team for being ahead.
hmm wonder what one is better...
>>337301481
Don't you ever talk to my friend like that again you literal toddler child infant baby.
>>337301590
I love the little things like items etc that Dota has going for it, I just hate the ASSFAGGOTS playstyle. If it was a FPS or TPS I'd be playing it all the damn time
>>337301481
>Little Tykes® My First Dota™
anon please spare my sides
>>337301360
>>337301481
>people who play mobas
>unironically arguing over who is a bigger child
>>337299790
There's no thought required for ranked at all. You can literally just keep playing it and get rank one eventually. The system is pointless.
After being top 200 in Doter and Master in Lel, I find myself consistently having the most fun with HotS, especially in the last year.
HotS also has an EXCELLENT dev team, bringing out new content fairly often, and balancing problems quickly and in a smart, not "end the character's viability" manner.
Just wish more people played it though.
It's fun at first but you'll eventually get sick of how shallow it is and losing because of that one retarded team mate that gets picked off at 20 minutes and costs you the game. Map variety was an interesting idea that didn't really work out because of how unbalanced most of them are. If I could go back in time and trade all that time on playing another MOBA I'd definitely do it.
>>337299819
So you've never played the game then, opinion discarded
>>337303132
>literally admitting you're wrong
Why even reply? Why not just tuck your tail between your legs and close the thread?
>>337301676
You might like SMITE then.
I played doturd and lol and hots and at first I stuck with doturd the most since it felt the deepest. hots is nice because it's really relaxed compared to the other games, especially if you don't generate too much salt after a loss.
After I discovered smite though I just stuck with it. The 3rd person perspective really changes the game a lot.
>>337304124
Think you're responding to the wrong person anon. The game has mounts, you're literally mounted from the second you enter the game.
To think the game doesn't have mounts you've either never played it or retarded
Dotards are literally mentally ill
I wouldn't hate it so much if they gave us more creatures/settings from their actual games to play on rather than the made up middle school kiddie bullshit that constitutes most of their maps.
>>337304857
He's saying the the game being sluggish and boring is why they needed to add mounts to it, dipshit
>>337306127
Nice try, no one's buying it
>>337306127
literally quoted from that guy
>all the combat and moving feels sluggish, the game needs mounts ffs
he's not saying "oh yeah the game desperately needed mounts, it was a good choice to add them in", he's saying "man it feels so slow, they really need to add in mounts" which is a pointless statement because mounts are already in the game
obtain some reading comprehension you dumb faggot
>>337304194
Have you tried Battleborn?
Can we all agree that out of all the mobas HOTS have the best girls
LOL is second
>>337306445
>the game is so fucking slow that it needs mounts, ffs
How hard is that to understand? How can anyone be this stupid?
If he was suggesting a change that isn't in the game to make it faster he'd say something like TP scrolls because dotard
Mounts aren't something you'd just come up with for a genre that doesn't have them in any other game
>>337306692
Honestly, for designs? I think LoL have it down, there's something in that for everyone. HoTS suffers from the horrific Blizzard school of character design, you should post some official art instead of that.
>>337306692
>girl
it;s different from those other two in alot of ways which means your gonna either like it was more or way less
personally i've always seen it as being more enjoyable
>>337306692
I'd fuck her right in that sweet doe pussy.
>>337299316
>>337299790
This is my problem with Blizzard nowadays.
Their last 3 IPs are dumbed-down versions of already existing games.
>>337299038
Bad game design
Bad payment scheme
Terrible map design
competing in a market where either people are too invested in the game, or the game is given away free
>>337307089
my guess is he just read the paragraph wrong or is genuinely fucking stupid
>>337306692
lunara can go fuck herself, she's basically enchantress 2.0 with poison
>>337307129
Yeah, I think LoL has a unique kind of freedom that Dota and Hots can't touch because of their origins. Like the way that LoL can just choose to do a scifi robot or an alien or a DJ or a lumberjack and it doesn't fucking matter.
>>337307653
she doesn't play like enchantress in the slightest way, but that doesn't change the fact that this hero is complete fucking cancer
>>337307129
>>337307449
It is more enjoyable. Its faster paced than other MOBA with less down time. Its not overly bogged down with unneeded mechanics masqurading as "Depth". Its easy to pick up but still like any other online game, very involved at the higher play level.
Most bitching about it just butthurt LoL and DOTA fans mad that yet another MOBA came out and/or pissed that while their MOBAs rarely ever have updates, HotS has constant.
>>337299316
I like when the pacing is medium speed. If you like fast go play quake 1 and bunnyhop thru the levels pressing the mouse button.
>>337307803
C'mon lunara is not that bad, she is a little bit annoying but she is not Tracer tier
I don't know much abour her tho, i am aBrightwingmain
>>337307089
Nice retcon fagboat. There is no other way to interpret what he wrote than that he wanted mounts added to the game. If his intent was what you say he needs to learn how to structure sentences.
Room mates would not stop pestering me to play this crap, their whole life seemed to revolve around it, so i finally caved and just played Chen almost exclusively just to be an asshole.
fuck this game, Chen rocks, though. so it wasn't all bad. got him to lvl 16 or something before i moved oout
>>337307272
Yeah dude, girls
Unless you are like, gay for malf and diablo which is fine Tbh, Can't really blame you
>>337308219
>this much damage control
He either meant what I said or was blatantly trolling, so either way you're a retard.
practically the only reason i still play this game is for those few seconds you get to spend in a huge ass mech while playing tychus
firing off nukes never gets old
>>337308726
Iwasonlytrolling.jpg
Keep backpedaling
>>337309112
I'm not even him.
Damage control harder, maybe it'll make you smarter.
>>337308726
i'm pretty sure he just came on here to shitpost about another one of blizzard's games without actually informing himself
if he wanted to say what you were saying, he would have said something along the lines of "all the combat and moving IS so sluggish that the game needED mounts ffs"
>>337299038
Last I checked everyone on here jerked this game off whenever possible
I dont see it. It just feels so boring. The maps are just kinda slapped together, and barely change things up between most of them.
The heroes and abilites, I dont know what, but there's something that just makes them all boring feeling. Even interesting concepts like Murky and the Vikings just felt so boring to play.
It's even more frustratingly team reliant than the other MOBAS to.
>>337302080
>because of how unbalanced most of them are
Thats the problem with them?
Can to enlighten me?
It is faster pace than the others.
it focuses on pvp. buying heroes with in game gold is easy enough if you do your dailies and level heroes to level 5.
>>337309718
It's just another way of wording it, albeit a really unclear and poorly written way.
The chances of someone not knowing the game has mounts but suggesting the exact same system out of nowhere is pretty slim. Your logic wouldn't go "dota is faster because it has TP scrolls, but a mounting mechanic that's never been done before should be in HotS instead of that!"
It was either that or shitpost bait
>>337308596
>you walk in to the bushes and he gives you this face
what do?
Honestly the only map I truley enjoy is dragonshire.
I wish they would come up with a Dota Map and items.
I play the game more than Dota now but thats only because Dota is too intense and stresses me out where as HotS is easy casual shit.
Heroes main problem I htink is the spells are all barely stronger than the auto attack.
I'd rather see spells be used less but have a high impact rather than the current state.
I really though, would like them to make a less casual more serious game mode designed for 40 mins.
>>337310925
>Dota is too intense and stresses me out
>I wish they would come up with a Dota Map and items.
I like it a lot. The shorter games makes it above Dota 2 for me at least. I get really burnt out playing Dota 2 with games going over an hour and both teams just making no fucking progress. It all kind of just boils down to who stops giving a shit first and slips up.
>>337310352
Give him your fresh meat
>>337311743
hurr durr.
It has good elements but the game is still shit compared to Dota in its current state.
>>337299038
you're a casual faggot with bad taste is why you like it.
