Literally impossible
>>337266168git gud
>>337266168
I just either bounce on top of him for a while or stand under and jump upwards as fast as I can
>>337266168
fire bubble, right corner, instawin
>>337266549
But he can crush you if you stay under him. That bubble is a beginers trap.
ayy
>>337266168
Why did Sonic have such terrible bosses? The only acceptable boss fights are always at the end of each game.
>>337266892
Fuck that shit.
tell me this thread is fucking bait
>>337266168
I don't get it
>>337267565
They're both a kilogram.
>>337267787
Comfy af
>>337267878
HELL NO, NIGGA. The snow is literally cold as HELL.
>>337268187
You're never cold with sonic by your side.
>>337266168
Wat? People had trouble with this boss?
>>337268685
>>337268784
No. It's pretty much impossible to have trouble with a sonic boss that lets you have rings. You can just keep picking them up.
>>337266168
Yeah, I agree with OP. It's literally impossible to lose at this miniboss.
>>337266168
I'M A LUMBERJACK AND I'M OK. I SLEEP ALL NIGHT AND I WORK ALL DAY
>>337269740
>>337269740
Time to go watch that flash
>>337266168
in sonic 3/knuckles sonics double jump (shieldless) temporarily expands his attack harmbox to allow him to attack otherwise hazardous enemies. in this case sonic can double jump to attack the logger robot even when the jetpack is in the way.
knuckles will have a much much harder time on this boss because his jump is lower and his doublejump forces a slow and dangerous glide that is nearly useless offensively
>>337270309Are you trying to Barneyfag this thread?
>>337270309
where's barneyfag?
>Waiting for the Sandopolis Act 1 miniboss to get its fat rocky ass over to the quicksand.
>>337266168
Was it just me or were Knuckles variations of every boss twice as hard in this game?
>>337270287
Oh is that what it does? I assumed it gave you a frame or two of invincibility
>>337271073
Nah they were actually harder. Usually not by much, but they were and often had different patterns from the regular Sonic variations,
>>337270287
We need the frame data on his attacks.
>>337271073
Knuckles was hard mode.
>>337269221
S-Sonic?
>>337267787
> 777KB
disgusting
>>337271910
Now you just made it IMPERFECT
YOU ASKED FOR IT
https://youtu.be/ullFsKxRxhE
It's possible to kill this boss before it even starts attacking you. In fact you can kill it so fast that you can keep the screen from locking into position and wind up breaking the game.
>>337272026
Do you apply any compression to these at all?
Why are sonic fans this retarded?!
Why is the fandom like this?
I just wanted this series to be great again...
>>337271073
Knuckles jumps lower so it its harder for him. Several bosses were also given more attacks in his campaign, specifically Angel Island's sub boss and Flying Battery's end boss.
Also fun fact, it's literally impossible for knuckles to beat death egg zone's sub boss because he can't jump high enough to hit it.
>>337272747
Nobody really gives a shit unless they're a brazilian with a modem connection.
>>337266892
Up and down on the directional pad you dense motherfucker
>>337266168
Really? How can someone be so bad?
>>337272949
I don't believe you
>>337275396
Knuckles does jump lower.
It's not a matter of belief.
>>337270905
literally just jump to the left the moment knuckles pushes the button
I beat that when I was 5 years old. You can do it.
>>337272949
...doesn't knuckles' story end at sky sanctuary?
>>337277350
It does, that's why you never have to fight an unwinnable boss.
>>337277350
If you use the level select code you can go to the Death Egg as him.
>>337277661
Or you can play the glorious blue knuckles
When's his big comeback?
>>337272949
He also can't jump high enough to hit the first Act 2 boss of Launch Base Zone.
>>337278087
Freedom Planet was his big comebacksega killed and buried sonic literally one decade ago
>>337266909
>Why did Sonic have such terrible bosses?
You watch your fucking mouth.
Literally impossible
>>337271073
>Was it just me or were Knuckles variations of every boss twice as hard in this game?
Not just you. Many bosses had more aggressive attack patterns with Knuckles (Flying Battery endboss is using the flamethrower nonstop), some of them were straight up different (launch base had 2 of those swinging things simultaneously), and you couldn't use the jump-slash motion that Sonic had (with no shield, jump, press jump in air, you'll do a small slash that extends your attack hitbox - you can hit most bosses nonstop that way without waiting for their attack pattern to end).
>>337277849
oh yeah I forgot about that glitch
>>337278109
You can still beat that boss without cheating though.
>>337278473
>he thinks sonic bosses were good
>>337278626
I'll give you everything post Adventure, but Genesis was literally god tier in fun bosses.
>>337277661
>>337277849
Or even better, play Doomsday Zone as Knuckles or Tails. You need to enter/exit Debug Mode before you transform to avoid garbled graphics, but it works perfect otherwise.
Tails looks normal since he kinda sorta looks like he is flying forward anyway, but Knuckles looks funky running through space like that.
>>337278710
It was possible to beat every boss in the game so so quickly in 3 because of sonic flash attack (A in the air)
>>337279020
>tfw beat big arm with insta-shield
In another dimension, everything is the same except Mighty went on to be the main protagonist of each game in place of sonic.
I'd play Mighty Adventure 2 desu
>>337279302
MAKE SOME NOIZEEEEE
>>337270905
With Tails or lightning shield you can also fly above the screen and the invisible wall in front of him and chill out with him.
>>337279631
Loved when I figured that out. Favorite glitch in the game is changing Hydrocity's miniboss music to the music for minibosses in Sonic and Knuckles by almost making yourself drown.
>>337272949
>>337275396
>>337271073
In Angel Island act 1 the boss shoots rockets as well as having his regular moveset I think
Act 2 either has no difference, or the fireballs travel along the ground while if you're not Knuckles, they just go straight I think
Hidrocity
Act 1 it's harder to dodge the boss unless you use the wall climbing
Act 2 you can only hit the boss using the water bombs, since he doesn't come down to get the whirpool thing going (if you're not knuckles, he goes down to the water, spins the fan and then starts going up)
Marble Garden
act 1 boss has that spinning spiny platform thing moving around
act 2 is a completely different boss because you don't have Tails helping you fly
Carnival Night
act 1 is the same afaik
act 2 has no boss for whatever reason
I don't remember Ice Cap's bosses well, I think act 1 was the same and maybe act 2 had the platform moving up and down instead of being fixed
Launch Base
act 1 I don't remember
act 2 has 3 bosses in Sonic 3 vanilla, in Sonic 3 & Knuckles you face the first and the second if you're not Knuckles, if you're Knuckles you face the second and the third
mushroom hill
act 1 and 2 are the same afaik
flying battery zone
act 1 and 2 are the same afaik, but curious fact: they forgot to swap the model of the act 2 boss to be that egg-robo instead of Robotnik
sandopolis
act 1 is the same afaik
act 2 you have to jump on top of the golem's hand to then reach the green gem weakspot because Knux's jump is lower than Sonic's and Tails`
Lava Reef
act 1 and 2 are the same afaik
sky sanctuary onwards is completely different from Sonic/Tails to Knuckles
This is all from memory though, I might be forgetting something or misremebering stuff
>>337269221
NICE FUCKING TRY BARNEYFAG.
>>337273227
The point is that nowhere in the game is up/down used for moment besides here.
There's no cues that would tell the player that it was even an option.
The fact that the barrel moves up and down when jumped on only adds to the confusion as it gives the player the idea that they should be jumping on it to move it.
If it didn't move when jumped on people wouldn't have had a problem with it as they'd eventually have pressed up/down, seen it move, then realize that's the correct way.
It's just bad design.
>>337279825
>flying battery zone
act 2 uses the flamethrower nonstop as I recall.
And for Lava Reef 2, you don't fight the boss, you skip straight to Hidden Palace.
>>337280336
>And for Lava Reef 2, you don't fight the boss, you skip straight to Hidden Palace.
shit, I forgot about that
is there even a Lava Reef act 2 for Knuckles? or does he go straight to Hidden Palace?
>>337272191
what the fuck
>>337280267
>There's no cues that would tell the player that it was even an option.
There's one fucking big clue as to why you should hold up/down: because jumping does NOT WORK.
So you can either keep doing the same thing and expect a different outcome (which is the definition of stupidity), or try doing something else.
I mean it isn't that fucking difficult, ABC all does the same, and beyond that you only have the d-pad...
No matter how you put it, you were a goddamn retard mongoloid if you can't figure out that part.
>>337280528
There is, you go through a completely different route early on breaking some walls because he can't reach the plataforms that Sonic can
>>337271552
I'd say it's a Megaman & Bass kind of situation. One character has an easier time with levels while they have a harder time with bosses. The other character is reversed.
But I'm not sure where Tails fits into this.
>>337280587
The thing goes down more depending if your jump was high, using the impulse of the barrel to jump higher so you can make it go down further sounds pretty logical
>>337272191
>only goes up to 240p
How can people stand to watch a bunch of lego blocks move around?
>>337280658
in some acts the same thing happens, you can break some walls S/T can't, and S/T can go a route you can't because they jump higher and the walls around the jump can't be used to wall climb/glide/whatever to get there as Knuckles (I remember for sure that Angel Island, Carnival Night and Sandopolis have this happen)
also in Mushroom Hill you break the wall with the wind lever and move forward, while playing as S/T you get sent upwards by Knuckles activating the lever
>>337266892
>That one shithead who always has to come into the thread and say HURR I DID IT JUST FINE GUYS
I honestly never beat the game as Sonic or Tails for a long time, and only played as Knuckles because you skipped the barrel.
>mfw kid me got frustrated and rolling the D-pad solved it
>>337278498
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
>>337278498
>mfw all these years later I realized that "Galsia" was a shitty translation of "Garcia"
>>337281006
There's also some Tails exclusive routes, i remember one in Angel Island, Marble Garden and Carnival Night, not sure if there's more since i didn't play with him as muchthough you can easily access then as Sonic in Sonic 3 Complete using that deal about being able to control Tails' flightDamn i need to replay this again
>>337272191
>https://youtu.be/ullFsKxRxhE
BUT FIRST
>>337280861
>The thing goes down more depending if your jump was high,
But not enough to get you under it. Anyone playing that thing for 1 minute should be able to figure that out, and then proceed to look for alternate methods.
>>337281387
Mfw I never realized that
>>337281478
akshyually you can control Tails' flight as Sonic using a controller on player 2, or using the keys for player 2 on Sonic 3 Knuckles Collection (PC)
>>337271073
Knuckles can't jump as high so probably
>>337281893
Go back to England FTA
>>337281986
>England FTA
sorry, what?
>>337281132
I honestly can't imagine being this stupid. How did you not figure it out, there's only so many fucking buttons on a controller
>>337282480
They're all trolls, dude. Every last one.
>>337266168
only impossible as knuckles.
>>337280587
Jumping only barely doesn't work though. It's close enough to make people think it's possible.
>>337278379Are there mods that swap the FP characters to Sonic ones?
nothing personel kiddo
>>337279302
>my friend who owned Sonic 3 thought Big Arm was literally impossible without Super Sonic
>hfw I beat it as regular Sonic while he was watching me play
>>337266168
S3&K is objectively the best sonic game, played this shit so much I had multiple perfect save files in every slot with each character
In hindsight I narrowly evaded being a sonic autist, all I was missing was somew sort of sexual awakening to one of the characters.
>>337279020
>>337279302
>>337284481
hitting his face when he was charging at Sonic wasn't that hard, come on
that said, if he ever grabbed Sonic it should be an insta-kill attack imo
>>337284745
I think 2 generally has better design/gameplay.
3&K's main draws are its massive amount of content and lots of memorable moments, but it feel it is a lot less polished compared to 2 overall
sonic..
sonic
was a FURRY
*storms off*
>>337284850
I know. I guess he just sucked at video games. Although we were both 8 years old at the time.
>>337278087
Aren't they gonna make a Sonic Adventure 3 for his anniversary?
>>337266892
I was a dumb kid and so used the bubble shield nearby to bounce through.
>>337285210
They made Sonic Adventure 3 ten years ago but by then the nostalgia goggles were gone on sane people and they saw how shitty the formula really is.
>>337285552
I'll never understand the reasoning behind pointing to Sonic 06 as proof that the Adventure games were bad
>>337285108
Sonic's a furry.
Look, he's a furry!
FURRY FURRY FURRY FURRY FURRY FURRY FURRY FURRY ...
>>337285765
You don't have to point to Sonic 06 to say the adventure games are bad.
Just play the adventure games.
>>337266892
fuck you
>>337285552
People liked Sonic Adventure 2 because it just got straight to the levels, no stupid overworld like in Adventure 1 and 06.
They do that with SA 3 and I suppose people will say its good.
>>337286214
The problem with that is every level in SA2 is garbage, even the speed levels people put on a pedestal for some reason.
did any of you fuckers beat this as a kid? be honest
>>337279825
>mushroom hill
More of the lumberjack bot's logs bounce off the ground when you play as Knuckles. The zone boss is the same.
>>337266168
Is this bait?
>>337280785
I wouldn't go as far as comparing it to Megaman and Bass. S3&K actually had different paths designed around knuckles, while Megaman & Bass was just designed around Bass.
>>337285135I was 7
>>337266168
I don't even understand what is going on with this boss and just rushed him and i still beat him everytime.
>never beat Sonic 1 or 2
>can fairly easily finish Sonic 3 & Knuckles with a fuckton of livesOK Death Egg Zone has some hard parts
>>337286952
it's hard to go back to Sonic 1 and 2 after S3K
>3 acts with the same assets and music
>literally everything is inferior and more repetitive
>can only play as Sonic
>S1 emerald stages can be rather random
>S2 emerald stages are a matter of memorizing shit
they're good games, but S3K is one of the best platformers out there
I love this icon, it's so fucking 90s.
>>337268187
>tfw I just noticed what the mural on the wall is
>>337286678
>The zone boss is the same.
Sonic always gets 1 row of spikes, Knuckles can sometimes get pic related.
barely a difference tbqh
>>337287790
for us, adults (generally anyways), advanced players, non-shitters, yes, but for the retard mouthbreahters you have to jump and you can't jump too high, or you'll get hit
even if it's such a small change in difficulty, it still is a change in difficulty
>>337287907
oh gosh!:3
>>337270738
>Not knowing you can attack it from behind to make the fight go faster.
>>337286319
I did.
>>337286319
Fucking hell, you guys really are casual as fuck.
>>337288019
>from behind
he changes sides if you go behind him afaik, but yeah, if you knock him from the right he'll get thrown to the left I think
You guys can't unsee this anymore.
>>337266892
Took me a long time when I was younger to understand.ayyyyy
>>337286319
Yep, first with Tails.
>>337286319
Many, many times. Sonic 2 was my first game and the first game I beat at like age 5
>>337271910
>>337288975
I did nazi that coming
>>337288975
Too much snow
A GHOST TRIED TO APPROACH ME
HE GOT LARRY
>>337281478
>Angel Island, Marble Garden and Carnival Night
Where? The only Tails-exclusive path I remember is the one in Death Egg.
>>337290032
IIRC, Angel Island act 2 has a vertical path with spikes on the walls only Tails can fly up, but I think it was for an extra life or something. Maybe it was an alt path, but that's all I remember.
>>337287241
Even though I'm a latent Sonic autistI got my Chris-chan level phase over with in grade schoolI have to admit 1 and 2 don't hold up that well in some respects.
>it's incredibly obvious most of the level design work for 1 went into Green Hill Zone
>special stages are easily outclassed by blue sphere
>art style feels "shallow" compared to 3, both technically and artisticallykid me thought 1/2 Sonic was wearing lipstick
>>337290861
Sonic 3 sprites are the fucking best, it's also where Sonic (ingame) has reached his highest point in design imoalso I can't play Sonic CD because I can't stomach the jumping sound effect
>>337290032
>Angel Island
A couple of secrets like pic related, and >>337290818
>Marble Garden
pic related, act 1. Maybe you can use the Lightning Shield though, I'm not sure.
Beginning of act 2, follow the arrow that's pointing up. Pretty big shortcut.
>Carnival Garden
pic related, act 1.
>>337266892
>tfw I never learned the up-down tactic and jumped on it over and over until it went low enough to jump off
>I've beaten Sonic 3 in every feasible way yet I'd still lose a couple of lives at that point due to timing out or accidentally crushing myself on the corner as I tried to jump off
>>337266892
this gave me PTSD
>>337266892
>tfw having to look up cheats on horrible 90's internet
>couldnt find any solution to that barrel other than Debug Mode
>Sonic 3's level select being impossible for my retarded ass to do
>had to wait until S3&K to get the much easier level select from Mushroom Hill
>>337291731
>that pic
I actually really like the 2D art for the Adventure games, it feels like a natural evolution of Sonic's base concept. Sonic was partly conceived in opposition to the "Mickey" that was Mario.Also Tails a cute.
>>337292789
I like them too, I posted that mickey image because I find it hilarious
>>337292015
>I've beaten Sonic 3 in every feasible way
Did you beat it with0.5 A presses?
>>337292990
Classic Amy was a qt.
>>337292761
>look up how to get past the barrel
>start looking up cheats after my first taste of using the internet to help with games
>learn how to do level select and debug for 2
>learn some really weird way to get it in 3 involving cartridge swapping and holding a button down
>>337279302
>mfw vs big arm as knuckles
>>337292990
Fair enough. Speaking of designs, where were classic Knuckles and Amy in Generations?
>>337293373
I think the only classic characters in the game were Robotnik, Tails, Sonic and Metal Sonic
>>337268187
>The entire area is mechanical made by egg man
>>>>He made a mural
>>337292990
The design evolution was flowing perfectly until heroes. SA2 and Sonic Battle was the last good design period we'd get until the 'Reboot' of Unleashed which was a great return to form (a return that got largely scrapped unfortunately)
>>337281006
He better hold that promise
I'm waiting until 2029
>>337293663
He does lots of funny shit like that.
Remember his personal spa aboard the Egg Carrier?
>>337293360
gliding makes him really fucking easy though, what are you getting at?
>>337293825
I wish I was wrong with my prediction, but now we got Sonic Boom, I made this image 30/04/2012
>>337293553
no shit?
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/srZYOCq.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
QUICK POST THE BEST LEVEL IN THE SERIESI can't decide between pic related and Collision Chaos.
>>337266168
Its funny because theres multiple dark souls threads a day of this shit.
>>337293663
>The entire area is mechanical made by egg man
Is it though? I thought the hidden palace was already part of Angel Island and the mural was a prophecy or something.
>>337295416
Sky Sanctuary Zone, obviously
>>337293663
>ancient ruins
>were made by Robotnik
are you high?
>>337295416
You gotta split it between 2D and 3D though.
2D:Hydrocity Zone
3D:Speed Highway
>>337295517
No, he's full of shit.
It's no use take this is the hardest sonic boss
>>337266892
I never had a problem with this
ever
but see things like this are why i make more money than any of you spergs will ever see
>>337295416
The music zone from Sonic Advance 2
>>337296043
That's actually my least favorite level from Advance 2. I think Sky Canyon, Techno Base, and Egg Utopia are all three the shit. Those are some seriously-fun stages.
>>337266892
I mean really
it's basic problem solving
if nothing else,
You get on the barrel, you start pushing fucking buttons, you notice which ones work
>UP AND DOWN
woh maybe i should be try this up and down thing a little
>WOH IT WORKED
>>337288975
What the fuck happened there? Why did the game decide to randomly implode like that?
>>337286319
My Genesis froze during that battle once. Almost killed myself.
>>337296273
Yeah I remember doing that eventually. I think the first few times I did it, I had no clue what I did though.
I don't really remember though.
>>337281617
You can glitch trough using the wrong meyhod tho
>>337291731
>kingdom hearts.jpg
>>337266892
Never in my life did I have a problem with this and because of this meme i consider you all remedial children with a severe need to git gud
>>337296676
I'm pretty sure that was a corruption stream from Vinesauce. Likely reset an auto-corrupter and it had a boom of multiple corruptions at once. Though I could be wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ5dXMLhQPc
Why are sonic threads so comfy?
>>337300027
Sonic threads are fucking abysmal.
>>337300507
To some people chaos is pretty comforting.
>>337298339a sonic boom, if you will
>>337293825
>The design evolution was flowing perfectly until heroes.
Yeah, Sonic's design changed a lot more gradually than people think.
Did anyone here actually beat sonic spinball
>>337301004
>the 3D sonic generation stages still had 2D sections in them
what was even the fucking point then sega
>>337301004
Colors is still my favorite game to date.
>>337301004
Sonic story was perfect in Unleashed. He didn't try hard to be snarky. Every Hub was so comfortable and night music was as well.
I hope whoevers idea it was to interrupt it with that fight music was fired.
>>337266549
>using anything but lightning shield for glorious double jump and ring magnet
what a faggot.
>>337301073
fuck no, made it to level three but never got past it
>>337301004
The models from colors to lost world are pretty much the same tqbh.They probably even used the same model for the CG renders.
Which is fine because they're pretty much perfect.
>>337281617
Yeah, "if all else fails, MASH BUTTONS!"
For being a fandom full of autists, the games sure weren't very autist friendly apparently.
>>337266892
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKING TRIGGERED!
>>337301073twice, by accident both times
I can't get past the lava stage anymore
>>337303321
The autists didn't start coming in until SA2 came out.
I wouldn't be suprised if the archie comics had something to to with it too.
>>337266892
>Yuji Naka and Takashi Iizuka Apologize For Barrel in Sonic 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XeBgeN5uG8
