Why is this game so fucking good?
>>337179903
Is no one enjoying this?
>>337181315
Already beat it
I assume people are too busy playing the 3DS game
>>337181315
I'm liking it
There are more classes later right?
>>337181513
NOPE
The newest game has 8 classes though
>>337181504
The 3DS version hasn't come out yet though. At least not physically, anyways.
>>337181513
Not sure. I'm still early on.
>>337181671
You should know that you unlock more skills as the story proceeds
Is it similar to the Etrian Odyssey games? I need some more Yuzo Koshiro in my life.
>>337181775
It has a similar character creation system and appearance is NOT tied to class. ie you can have hacker girl be a samurai
If you played EO then this game has very simple dungeons but has like 300 FOE that you have to hunt down
2020-II is getting translated, right?
>>337181775
Its like Etrian Odyssey except its top down instead of first person when dungeon crawling. Otherwise its much like EO games, yes.
>Enter Shibuya.
>Remix of Jungle Navigation from the first game.
>>337182130
There's also a remix ofNIARA BATTLE THEME
>>337179903
How are you guys playing this game?
>>337182409
PPSSPP emulator
>>337182409
I'm just using PPSSPP with a translation patched iso, why?
>>337182409
PSP emulation has been a thing for a while now.
>>337182605
Can't wait for 3DS emulation so VFD can look as beautiful as it was meant to be
>>337179903Got a link to the ISO I'm done dealing with Nicoblogs attempted backdoor bullshit.
>>337183780
As a matter of fact
https://mega.nz/#!XJERUL4b!RGfARnTVA_Lcn-90K4Q0H2ITYyi6JlK_TfY8OvnXg5Q
>>337183986
Holy shit thanks a million! Anything to know before I get started or is it the typical DC affair?
>>337184748
The only thing I can say that might be of use is that you might want to think twice before having a psychic on your team. Physical attacks are almost useless from them, and they run through mana really quickly so unless you're stocked up on MP increasing items you're going to have a rough time making use of them.
>>337185054
So I imagine good in the mid/late game really hard to make useful in the beginning outside of doling out extra damage to bosses?
>>337181671
The 3ds game was leaked two months ahead of launch. I'm trying it right now. I was about to make a thread for this.
>>337185054
Not really, the game gives you so many healing and MP items that it's hardly an issue. The game is also so fucking easy an party will do, especially since later you unlock EX that absolutely can destroy everything and you'll have so many ways to immediately fill the bar back up. It's an insult to compare this game to EO like people have really, it will always boil down to spamming your strongest skill. Pic related, it's the final boss. I probably would have killed it in less turns if the RNG hadn't decided to fuck me and keep killing my psychic.
>>337185339
I'm not in late game yet so I can't say, but it looks that way. As the psychic levels up naturally it gets more MP, so eventually it'll be better.
>>337186134I've been running out of MP items constantly. Healing isn't an issue but I can't keep up my psychic so far.
>>337185829
>two months ahead of launch
How the fuck did that even happen? Why would they just sit on the game if it's already done and obviously out in the world for someone to upload it to the internet?
>>337186309
>Hacker
>Cumslut
You take that back.
>>337186571
A review let his "friend" dump it and make a CIA for it. Games are usually finished months before their releases dates anon, packaging and distribution takes time. And that's what Sega gets for sending review copies out to literal nobodies.
>if you die in battle you can restart the battle right from the beginning instead of having to load your old save
>>337186853
Do we know exactly who it is (or a moderate estimation, at least)? Although, why in the name of fuck would they hand out copies to reviewers two months in advance? Why wouldn't they just release the game now?Why haven't reviewers dumped more games months in advance?
These games look interesting but I seriously don't want to deal with using my 3DS again.
>>337187036
>Why haven't reviewers dumped more games months in advance?
Don't get me wrong, I like that people get to play good games as soon as possible, but wouldn't that be a bad thing, generally speaking, especially for games like this one?
This is the first time 7th Dragon has gotten an official release in the West after all. SEGA normally doesn't even bring its cool stuff over anymore. Isn't it important that this game does well, and a leak undermines that?
>>337187430
Technically no, this game was imageepoch's swan song, both the IP and dev team are pretty much done after this.
Apparently VFD turns off the 3d completely. Weird.
>>337179903
Was giving her an explicitly detailed cameltoe with a clit really necessary?
Japan??????
>>337188123
Who? And yes. Yes it is.
>>337187990
And the game still runs like completely shit, and it's only when on a overclocked N3ds that the fps become somewhat stable.
>>337187613
Imageepoch doesn't seem to be involved with this one though.
Is it really good? Looked like a generic JRPG, with generic JRPG combat + Hatsune Miku.
>>337188250
I didn't run into any issues yet and my n3ds isn't overclocked. I think it's weird that 3d is turned off because the game doesn't even look better than the psp one.
>>337188268
imageepoch went bankrupt while developing this game but Sega still paid the devs to finish it.
What's unique about this game? Is it the same old each character has 4-6 abilities or is there actually customization?
>>337188485
Then you must be blind because right off the bat the game starts to look like a slide show in the frist area.
>>337181315
I beat it, got to the first postgame boss and stopped
>>337187613
>it's okay to steal because it's not like they're gaining any money from this :^))
piratefags are cancerous as always
>>337181315
Beat it, I liked the post-game bosses, although the last one I spammed my Trickster's EX skill using items.
I want to buy VFD, but I'm not sure if a normal 3ds would even run it well.
>>337189495
I'm just saying that the commercial performance of the game isn't going to have an impact of future localizations because the game is not going to get a sequel anyway.
I personally don't care for petty morals.
>>337189495
Were the fuck does it say that you fucking idiot? It's the truth, the company is bankrupt and like every fucking title in this series was developed by someone different. Maybe if it does well it will encourage Sega to localize more Japanese only titles, but as it stands, this is the 4th and most likely last game from a series hardly anyone outside of Japan knows about, so I'm pretty sure they aren't expecting too much from it anyway.
>>337189797
>>337189882
Kill yourselves. Wish it came to Vita instead.
>>337188374
I don't know Hatsune Miku's relevancy in this and I've played it for over 3 hours now.
But yes, I'd argue its great! The game doesn't baby you at all and has almost no tutorial, making it very easy to pick up. Battles are challenging and rewarding and keep you on your toes, and the music is really...different.
Story involves a bunch of dragons having come to the Earth and fucking everything up all over the world. Now you, an elite unique of soldiers that you yourself created, must help an organization get humanity back some ground after dragons took over. So far the story isn't anything special but the scifi atmosphere along with strange visuals and its relationships with flowers keeps things fresh.
>>337188894
I'm not sure what you mean. Right at the beginning of the game, you choose three characters (yourself and two party members) and give them each a class of your choosing. You have a small number of class choices, from hacker to psychic, each with their own uses and cons. Psychics mostly deal in offensive and defensive magic. Hackers almost exclusively have buffs and debuffs as skills. Samurai deal in strong offensive melee attacks. Psychics have low attack power, high magic. The others have decent attack. And so on. There are other classes. The game gives you a decent bit of customization. You can also choose each of the characters' voices and their names.
>>337189980
>hurr durr piracy ruining gaming
>VFD was the highest selling game in the series
:^)
>>337189042
Is the only way to overclock by using NTR with the overclock plug-in?
>>337188374
Miku is a NPC and when you save her and build the Diva room, you can have her sing all the background music
>>337190102
>I don't know Hatsune Miku's relevancy in this
Her character is actually extremely minor but wait till Chapter 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm_80XdLWN0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R_X23FhRtg
>>337187036
I'm personally curious if Sega/Nintendo have the review copy specifically ID'd just in case something like this should happen. If they do, then that reviewer is completely fucked.
>>337189980
>Wish it came to Vita instead.
Imageepoch went bankrupt chasing dat Youkai Watch money on the 3ds. I feel like they deserved it.
>>337190240
If you have a9lh+luna3ds, you can actually set it to always be on, no need to use NTR for that.
>>337190610
wait seriously? source?
How is VFD, the one coming out for 3DS?
I want topre-orderbecause it sounds fun and I like being able to stick Aoi Yuuki and Nana Mizuki's voice on my waifus, but after recent events I'm leery about investing more in my 3DS.
Is it true that Yuzu Koshiro did the OST?
>>337190623
>tfw using Gateway from years ago and too lazy to swap to CFW
Fucking hell. I guess I'll just use NTR.
>>337190692
If you look at the company track, their best selling self published title was Sol Trigger on the PSP (arguably the best PSP rpg of all), but they still ignored the Vita while agreeing to work on such gems as Yoshi's New Island.
>>337190864
Yes, but the music unfortunately is the best part of the game. There is like zero challenge in this game, but I guess it can be kinda fun to see just how OP you can get
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBCVvL5r88I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-13xl1oHQI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48N4AcFZdz8
>>337191274
I wonder when the full Sol Trigger patch will be done.
The current one only does skills and the first half of the game but then the annoying thing happens and you need to basically level up an entirely new party
Well fuck
>>337192672
Time for best girl to make her appearance.
>>337192672
...I think the first fight against that is a forced loss
>>337192909
This isn't the first fight; that is from the rooftop fight of the inverted version of that dungeon. Its where you're supposed to be backup after you had delivered new equipment to the soldiers down below.
>>337193243
oh.
good luck then.
>>337192881you mean neiko, i have no clue how they translated that part in English
The fuck? I'm pressing L but my keyboard won't switch. Is it because I'm using a cfw PSP?
You know, my autism side care about story in jrpg. Does this game has story?
>>337189042
You know its strange how when the series got a game on the 3DS it actually stopped having chibi characters. Usually its the other way around.
>>337196490
Yes. Its not a super complex one from what I've played, but its serviceable. See >>337190102
>>337196697
They're still pretty chibi, with better details I guess. I feel like they really tried to get the game to look better than the PSP ones, but it ends up running like shit even though it's a lower resolution.
>>337196490
I hate like every single significant character. I just ignore the story as best I can and I enjoy the game.
>>337196785
Since you created your own character. Does this mean our playable characters won't talk and have no personality just like dq9?
>>337197054
Yes
>>337197054
Yes. The only personality they have is their voice.
old pic but this is the crew I ran with.
voices from left to right:
Shinichiro Miki
Myuki Sawshiro
Totomazu Sugita
>>337182042
>it's like Etrian Odyssey
>except it doesn't have the things that make an EO game
Even the combat, although good, is not EO-ish at all. The small team makes it difficult to get any synergy out of the team. The story is much more involved and cinematic than anything EO has done. I would say it's closer to a standard jrpg except you create your characters.
>>337197440
Its a dungeon crawler with first person battles that put an emphasis on buffs and debuffs with music by Yuzo Koshiro. I'd argue that's pretty Etrian Odyssey.
And I'd argue that its at least somewhat comparable story wise to the Untold series of EO games.
>>337191503
>zero challenge in this game
I see you never made it to the true dragons
>>337190510
Implying they're smart enough for that.
>>337185829
Share your thoughts. I'm not hacked so I was thinking of buying it. How are the classes? How does support teams work since you can have 9 party members active.
>>337197116
>>337197137
That is a shame. How does you guys think this fares against EO? I do hear the VA is top tier though.
>>337197881
Different guy here I'm like 4/5 of the way through the game
Classes have an absurd amount of links and synergies with other classes
Support teams "charge" buddy and friend skills in battle for set number of turns depending on their class
friend skills: Fortuner can revive all party members after four turns in battle, Duelist can clear all status effects after three turns
Buddy skills: It's a basic attack that occurs before yours with special effects and will break dragon specific buffs
Support teams can be switched out anytime outside of battle and earn an equal amount of exp/sp as your frontline team
There also two parts of the game where your teams split up and they have to fight dragons on their separate paths
>>337198107
I never beat an EO game.
Got to the final boss of 1. Never played 2. Got to the 3rd area of 3, the boss with the shifty heads in 4.
The problem in the EO games that you needed a very specific set-up or else you would have a bad time.
7th Dragon 2020 is less punishing in this regard.
I also played the first DS one I must of fucked up big time because I am getting my shit wrecked big time by the first boss
>>337197820
>Its a dungeon crawler
As much of a dungeon crawler as P4 really. If you're gonna generalize like that, does that mean DQ is too?
>>337198721I've never played P4and I've only played DQVIII which has an overworld and normal styled dungeons as opposed to mazes, and in it the focus is not on just going through dungeons.
>>337197820
First person and Third person dungeon crawlers should be regarded differently imo. There's so many differences like 1st person being more mazy and putting more emphasis on each step.
>first person battles
Your units are jumping in the screen constantly during every attack. Even moreso than PersonaQ. Also with some cool special attack animations.
>buff/debuff
Yes they both do it. But it's not really a unique thing.
>Yuzo Koshiro
Plenty of composers work across different series. Is radiant historia a kingdom hearts game now?
I'll agree to disagree on stories since I think EOU stories are pretty bad and poorly told. But its subjective so whatevs.
>>337181315
Already beat it, except for Takehaya.
Starting III now that it leaked. Not bad but it goes so slow compared to 2020 and it looks worse, but that's PPSPP making me biased. I'm sure if CITRA was actually operational and didn't need a computer far better than what I have III would look fantastic and run far faster.
>>337190623
Don't even need a9lh, you can just use Luna3DS as your CFW on n3DS and set it to always overlock. That's what I did since I'm too scared I'll fuck something up while making the switch over from rxTools.
>>337201374
>III would look fantastic and run far faster.
The models look spectacular when they zoom in on things
It's the same problem the PSP games had, really high end textures and models on a screen too small to support them properly
Anyone know where I can find the OST to download? Preferably CD rips, if they exist.
>>337192881
That's not Aoi.Aoi ;_;
>>337201681
True. Everything just looked so much smoother running on an emulator. And turbo mode was a blessing once I got Carnage Strike and Destroy on Sight, random battles never bothered me again once I could speed through them.
>>337201686
khinsider should have the entire 2020 OST.
>>337201736
>Enter the postgame dungeon.>Spirits of everyone that died hanging out in the lobby.
>>337201914
By the way have you played the original for the DS?
If you have then VFD will make you shit a few bricks
>>337201927
At least I killed all the Dragons for them.Except Takehaya, holy fuck is that boss fight just unfair. The only way I can conceivably win is using Dragon Eggs to spam EX Skills.
>>337202052
Yeah I played that Flower Stomping Simulator. It had its charm but holy hell did it have a lot of flaws, most notably the Quest system and how you can only check the details by talking to the person who gave it to you and the fact that you pretty much must have a Knight with Safe Walk for a majority of the game.
Are there any plans to translate the second 2020?
>>337202168
There was a cheat item (boots) in the eng patch that let you walk all over them with zero damage
The downside being that you waste an equip slot
>>337201914
>KH insider
They don't let you download the whole soundtrack at once unless you give a donation.
>>337202237
Translator for 2020 said he'd work on it since a decent amount of his work for that game could be applied to 2020-II but he also said it'd take a significant amount of time.
>>337202356
Just download the mp3 files one by one?
>>337202237
You could just wing it if you beat 2020 with the incredibly detailed excel doc
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Pz-NSiJpHmikI1J03i2-Zs4XbE54QKZkfMvQNbqSGb4/edit#gid=0
>>337202405
Who have the fucking time for that while I need to wasted my time on 4chan 24/7? I have yet to find a nice web to pirate vidya ost.
>>337202168
>Collect 100 Bird Feathers
>>337202596
just search on the ffshrine forums
You need an account though
http://forums.ffshrine.org/index.php
>>337202596
Its not perfect but you might like this:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tCc3AmTTThLGYmA94zphSgSR_Z32edwcYB2Ie1xijws/
No 7th Dragon there sadly.
>>337202673
Last time I tried, there are many dead link.
>>337202713
Nice, Will this get updated regularly?
>>337202673
JUST
>>337203000
I don't think so. At least not until the issue with Mega gets sorted out.
Is difference between the 3DS and the PSP versions?
I have both a computer powerful enough to emulate and a hacked 3DS to I can essentially pick whichever one I want, but I'm unsure if there are version differences.
I'm guessing the PSP version LOOKS better through upscaled emulation, but does the 3DS version have more content or something?
>>337203263
>Is difference between the 3DS and the PSP versions?
They're entirely different games, for starters.
>>337203263
They're completely different games dude. More specifically, the one on PSP is 2(2020), and the 3ds is 3
>>337179903
Why do all the bosses attack twice? I'm cruising through III right now and it's really annoying.
>>337203371
Cause if they didn't the game would have no challenge whatsoever.
>>337203359
>>337203353
Oh, fuck, I'm a mongoloid.
Well then where to begin?
Do they build on on each other, story-wise?
It really looks like my kinda' series, but I've never heard about it until this thread so I don't know anything about anything.
>>337203263
3DS version has more content and more classes, portraits and alternate colors
But the 3DS is a sequel to the psp ones so you should play those first
>>337203459
All the games are linked together plot-wise but they can be played separately with no prior knowledge. If you want to go from start to finish begin with the DS game (7th Dragon), then the PSP game (7th Dragon 2020), then the 3DS game (7th Dragon III). You can also play 2020-II (kind of an expansion on 2020) but there is currently no English patch for it so you'll be playing with a guide unless you know Japanese.
>>337203574
Thanks man, very informative of you!
I'll see if I can't dig up the first DS game then, and take it from there. Appreciate it, Anon!
>>337202649
They almost tell you to do that in VFD
But decide against it because that would be an unending hell
>>337197335
>Myuki Sawshiro
>Totomazu Sugita
MY DICK
>>337203574
I want to start with the PSP one immediately. Is that OK? The DS one looks like shit and I guess no top tier VA.
>>337204292
That's completely acceptable considering how tedious the quests get in the original
But you should check out the ost and the artbook when you have the time
Any Jpop in this?
>>337204358
Depends if you like Vocaloid or not.
I usually don't like the chibi artstyle, but this game kinda' makes it work.
>>337204358
Not really, 2020 has a Miku mode but that doesn't mean it's pop
>>337204292
That's fine as well. You might miss a few small references here and there.
>>337204358
2020's got a Miku mode and and 2020-II has an Idol class.
>>337204358
Normally no but you can change every song to vocaloid remixes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R_X23FhRtg
>>3372016;86
https://mega.nz/#!F1cjXKwA!dUEa7LY044H1JKLQWNR5UsIfbbAgeW4fkKYaHxCsVN0
I only have this one. I wish I could find the drama CD, but it's probably meh anyways...
>>337204348
>>337204591
Thanks anon, I will start with PSP one then.
>>337204748
Ooh, neat. Thanks anon! What is that exactly? Are those the vocaloid tracks?
>>337204963
Diva mode tracks for both games, so yes
>>337205098
Not exactly what I was looking for, but it'll do for now. Thanks anon!
>>337204625
Too bad all the tracks are pretty bad. You posted the only good one, then there's this one for 2020-II but I still prefer the regular version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esKGGt-mOlk
>>337187036
Because each review copy has a number in the files that lets them identify the giy that leaked it if sich a thing were to happen.
Guess that the literal who retard didnt know that and is getting sued for everything he owns right now
I heard Nana is in this? Please for God sake tell me it is so.
>>337205918
Nana Mizuki?
Yup
>>337205918
Yes. Sega's official site for III the entire VA list and it's very high class, lots of big names.
>>337206087
>>337206167
Yes, I mean Mizuki. So she in bott this and the 3ds game?
MUH DICK
>Nao Toyama as blonde loli duelist
>>337205305
That's probably my most favorite random battle theme from any game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZqN1yJtnZg
I was just playing this game a few minutes ago and then I see this thread. What does this mean?
I'm not too far into the game yet but so far it's good but I'll keep playing before I make my final decision. Just wish that the characters had personalities but oh well.
>>337207513
I hate self created character because the feel so empty.
>>337207513
Well maybe not what you would expect, but they kinda do depending on what VA you have, usually for the role their most known for.
>>337208841
>set Nobuhiko Okamoto as the VA for my male Samurai in 2020
>get Accelerator
An acceptable outcome.
>>337206167
This is really cool. First time I didn't want a single female in my team, too many smooth male voices.
How to switch Diva mode BGM? I cannot select it.
>>337210560
If it's anything like the first you have to unlock it by doing some quest with Miku.
>>337210560
You need to have saved Miku and build the performance area for her in City Hall.
Is there a way to skill reset outside of losing the 10 levels in the 3DS game?
>>337210768
>>337210769
I am using PPSSPP and i am having trouble naming the character. It was invisible/blank in the name. I cannot even naming my character. HELP
>>337211082
You need to use the Full-Width English letters.
>>337210931
Why would you want to when you can jsut grind out SP? There's even enemies specifically for that
>>337211115
Thanks based Anon
>>337211220
The look on my face. I didn't realise sp were linked to enemies as opposed to levels, I feel silly. On the brightside, I know what dragonsbane seeds do now.
>>337179903
Is there any reason to play the original first? It seems excessively slow and grindy.
Does 2020 still have the cute chibi characters in battle?
>>337212604
Already been answered in thread bro. They're all stand alone.
I still like the first one the best
>>337181671
Those models aren't nearly as cute as the old sprites.
>>337214439
>>337214775
>art direction was part cuteness, part future merchandising so they could make nendoroids
>they never fucking made the nendoroids
I'm still mad.
>>337214775
I was really disappoint with the 3d models, these sprites have so much character to them, it was always fun just seeing them do their little animations
>>337216212
Is that art book on ex?
>>337216319
Yeah, it is. The 3rd is aslo there.
>>337216319
They all are. But in the time it took me to answer you could have already found them
>>337216212
>>337214439
>>337214775
A shame they didn't just improve and refine the formula of the first game and pretty much turned it into an entirely different series. Because really the first game was a resource management game more than anything, it wasn't hard but without the right set ups it was just annoying
>>337214891
>>337218243
>No gloomy princess nendo.
They blew it.
>>337188485
>imageepoch went bankrupt while developing this game
Probably fucking sure that the game you're talking about is Stella Glow
VFD has been confirmed for NA, but not EU? No physical release?
