Clint Hocking (Creative Director) and Mathieu Berube (Level Designer) for Splinter Cell Chaos Theory played through the Panama Bank level and gave some commentary, pretty interesting watch
https://youtu.be/TMhgNi7X53c
Chaos Theory > Splinter Cell > Pandora Tomorrow > Blacklist >>> Conviction
>>337159598
Thanks anon.
Also I agree on the ranking 100%.
DUDE HOLY FUCK THAT VALVE IN THE BEGINNING
I'VE PLAYED THIS LEVEL 50+ TIMES AND I'VE NEVER EVEN
AAAAUUUUUUUUUGH
>amon tobin will never do the music for a splinter cell game ever again
Cool video OP. Wish the franchise would come back and not be shit, although blacklist wasn't awful.
>>337160792
Shh no tears. Only memories now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adh99_Q735w
Forgot how decent this looked on the OG xbox. The frame rate is pretty bad though
>>337159598
love this sorta stuff, more classic game developers should do this
>>337161118
this is running on the 360, i know that for some backwards compatible games that they run worse on the 360 than they did on the OG. so it might be that. i don't remember the framerate being TOO shoddy when i played it. maybe my memory is wrong though.
>>337161138
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUU7_BthBWM
here's a good one, playing doom with john romero. great stuff
>>337160856
>tfw i will never have another adventure with Ironsides-senpai
>>337159598
>You'll never memorise the enemy patrol routes and ghost an entire level without even being spotted in Splinter Cell again
>>337159598
Yay, video games!
In the vein of interesting videos; here's a video of speedrunner SMK doing a playthrough of Psychonauts with Tim Schafer & other dev staff giving commentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsDc1YVxHA0
Why didn't they just play it on PC anyways? You can use a controller.
>you'll never be able to hatefuck young Grim
>>337161813
Lasers? Lasers are so.....
>>337162031
Nineties?
>>337161118
>>337161412
it definitely ran better on the OG xbox
the grins on their faces during the best parts are great. The laser sequence really WAS genius. Plus I never noticed the pipe outside of the office crawlspace. This level was an absolute masterpiece.
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>>337162183
Bitch I will CUT you
>>337159598
>they think Metal Gear's disposable silencers are genius and wish they thought of it
why though
>>337163582
Disposable silencers encouraged you not to use your silenced gun to easily take out everything from far away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYt2w5nfTtc
I'M LURKING ALL THE TIME
>>337163582
they seem like sticklers for details. I really enjoy seeing him grimace at a simple code number not popping up on the keypad--even though any braindead could remember 4 numbers. It shows how much expected of themselves.
I too am shocked at the airfoil in the second level thing. Definitely sounds like something they would have done. Anyone have that gif of the fishtank's water draining?
>>337159598
One of the best levels in history of vidya and great dialogue.
>Grimsdottir: Maria Narcissa...
Fisher: You're not trying to set me up on another blind date, I hope.
Grimsdottir: The Maria Narcissa is a boat.
Fisher: So was the last girl you set me up with.
Grimsdottir: Fisher!
Fisher: Sorry...
>>337164549
>Fisher: I want a pay raise for this.
>Lambert: Fine. We'll bump you up to 25 cents an hour.
>>337164676
>Fisher: How many guards on duty tonight?
>Guard: You mean including me?
>Fisher: Unless you're suggesting I remove you from the equation.
>he did every objective
>he tried to do a sticky cam + drop attack combo
fucking based level designers
>>337159598
>guards start to wear helmets after the first alarm
Huh that's neat as fuck I didn't know this.
>>337164758
>Fisher: Who put the cookies in the cookie jar?
>Guard: W-what?!
>Fisher: I said: who.. put.. the.. cookies.. in.. the cookie jar?
>Guard: I-I don't know!
>>337164967
is this with sweetfx?
I wonder what the unannounced game they mentioned they were working on will be
>>337165094
No, vanilla.
>>337164549
>>337164758
>>337164982
perfect dialogue for a perfect cast of voice actors. I can't believe they thought kicking out Ironside was a good idea
>>337165168
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Absolution
>>337165221
damn nigga. Do you have any more?
>>337165379
Only this one.
make stealth games great again
>>337165293
Supposedly they got rid of Ironside because of the new motion capture shit and he was too old. Surely they could have worked around it, but nah.
>>337165517
Was the mo-cap for the body?
Seems a shame they couldn't use a Stuntman for Mo-Cap and use him for voice as usual.
Is there a sound in vidya more satisfying than Fisher's NVGs turning on?
>>337165517
Someone posted on here that he apparently didn't like the direction they were taking the character
>>337165506
>Thief
dead
>Splinter Cell
dead
>Hitman
not dead yet
>Metal Gear
dead
All we have to look forward to is Dishonored 2.
>>337165607
Or just end the mocap meme.
>>337165649
>Thief
3 good games
>Splinter Cell
Anywhere from 2-5 good games depending on your tolerance for bullshit
>Hitman
4 good games
>Metal Gear5 good games including several classics
>>337165293
It wouldn't have made a difference in Blacklists's case, the whole game is a fucking mess.
It's easier to pretend it doesn't exist this way.
>>337165783
>Thief
2 good games
>Splinter Cell
2 good games
>Hitman
1 good game
>Metal Gear0 good games
>>337165825
As a lifelong fan of Splinter Cell, I actually enjoyed Blacklist a bit more because of the VA change; I just imagined it was a reboot and did purely non-lethal no-detection playthroughs.
>>337165913
>being this bitter and cynical
get off /v/ it'll do you good
>>337165783
>thief, splinter cell, hitman
>just good games
>metal gear
>good games including classics
>>337165783
>Thief
two incredible games and one GOAT level in the other, mediocre game
>Splinter Cell
two great games
>Hitman
two good games and one great one
>Metal Gear
two good games and two great ones
>>337166123
>thief 4
>mediocre
you're giving it too much credit
>>337165957
I can't understand how you could possibly enjoy BL as a SC fan.
All those little details and plenty of game mechanics which were added slowly to the series to elevate it from good to fantastic were ripped out and replaced with a huge objective marker and copy paste "stand next to 3 terminals to hack them" sidequests.
>>337166323
I think he means Shalebridge Cradle in 3
>>337166323
I haven't played thief 4, I'm talking about the cradle
>>337166482
>>337166485
Shit my bad. Either way Cradle is a great level.
>>337166123
>splinter cell
>two great games
>>337164549
>>337164676
>>337164758
>>337164982
Fuck, I forgot how great is the dialog in this game. Time to replay.
>Splinter Cell > Pandora Tomorrow > Blacklist
Ha ha. No.
CT = BL ≈ DA > CS1 > PT ≫ Conviction
>>337165517
Body mocap. Idea is having the actor mocapping while reading the lines or doing the action, so subtle things like breathing and posture reflect the lines. It makes a huge difference in the animation, both with the result and the effort to produce.
IronSam fit the image, but not the physique; he summed it up with his 'nobody wants to see me jogging or shimmying up a pole' line. JohnSam is reading some shitty lines with a wooden tongue, but that's how SC1 was. Give it another game or two, and the edges will be softer.
>>337166348
>All those little details and plenty of game mechanics
Like?
>huge objective marker
Is it a known objective? If yes, it deserves a goddamn marker. If no, it doesn't have one (panic room).
>copy paste "stand next to 3 terminals to hack them" sidequests
What? The only repeated objectives are the opportunity ones, which go away forever once you do them once, and are limited to picking up flash drives, using computers, and KO-capturing VIPs.
>>337167212
>CT = BL
Which Amon Tobin albums should I get?
>>337167212
>Like?
Sound masking, different light states, surfaces creating different sounds on different moving speeds, interrogations, guard conversations which lead to alternate paths, alternate paths which are not "climb around the level on a ledge", hacking/lockpicking minigames, manual fucking jump and some other moves like the combat roll and split jump.
I probably forgot a few too.
>Is it a known objective? If yes, it deserves a goddamn marker
No it does not.
Giving the player a map and several paths to get to the objective is the right way to do it, not drawing a line on the floor like the player is a mongo.
>What? The only repeated objectives are the opportunity ones
Exactly, these 3 types of lazy copy pasted, pointless and not fun shit objectives are what I'm talking about.
>all them interrogation lines
I remember doing a choke-only run just to hear them all.
>>337165619
supermodified and ISAM are great imo. I love amon tobin. The CT OST is genuinely worth listening to anytime outside the game.
>>337168579
I can vouch for Supermodified, gotta give a listen to his other albums some time
>>337164758
>>337159598
>God-tier gameplay
>God-tier graphics for that time
>God-tier story and dialogue
>God-tier soundtrack
This game is legendary
>>337167967
>Sound masking, different light states, surfaces creating different sounds on different moving speeds
All in Blacklist. There's no meters in the UI (bar the visibility bulb on Sam's back), but everything is there and affects detection.
>interrogations, guard conversations which lead to alternate paths
Level design and interface. Guards which can be interrogated are either totally isolated and could basically be a cutscene, or surrounded by other guards and missed by ghosts and the trigger-happy alike. And considering the need to map more actions to the same amount of buttons for quick action, the "CQC" button can't have any more actions tied to it.
>alternate paths which are not "climb around the level on a ledge", hacking/lockpicking minigames
Combat. Combat in everything until Conviction was a free pass to progress in levels without detection autofailure, albeit at the cost of mission rating. So you could force open alarm doors rather than search for a fuse box or hack the door, because you don't care about guards. Blacklist made a point of having combat less viable (to the point of it being garbage at higher difficulties), which meant removing optional alarmed conventional passages.
>manual fucking jump and some other moves like the combat roll
Combat roll's in, IIRC. As for the jump, anywhere you'd need to jump to progress includes a context jump.
>split jump.
Really useless. Like, so useless the level designers in the video comment on how rare it was to have a hallway where you could split jump. It was more common in earlier SCs, but was cheat-level detection avoidance, so it got cut down.
>>337168760
It was really fucking weird when Tobin tracks showed up in IGPX.
>>337159598
>it's a level that you want to complete with a 100% rating but you also want to kill some enemies with a 20 mm rifle.
>>337161662
Man this was great. Tim gets a lot of flack these days but he's one of the only vidya writers who's good at humour. I didn't really like Broken Age that much. And Brutal Legend wasn't worth playing because I wasn't enjoying the gameplay.
>>337169167
>godtier amount of content
>co-op with local, online (lan?)
>one of the best xbox live experiences the xbox had to offer with full host/client support
>even had fucking dlc back then for free
holy fuck this game man
