>Bloodborne Dev 1: Let's make the enemies way faster, more aggressive, and deal way more damage!!
>Bloodborne Dev 2: Shouldn't we balance the gameplay around that then?
>Bloodborne Dev 1: Yeah, we'll also give the player less health, no shield, make weapons really slow, and remove all magic! Perfect!
>Bloodborne Dev 2: Uhhh....
just beated the chalice dungeon, oh amygdala, i don't remember a boss fight being so bullshit since kh 2 sephiroth.
>>337088306
>KH2 sephi
>not even Lingering Will
pleb
>>337088306
it was disappointing the hard bosses didn't show up until half-way into the filler content
>>337088306
Defiled Amygdala is fucking easy as hell. I never understood why people found it difficult unless they just didn't understand the very simply mechanics of the fight.
Literally just bait it's attacks, 1-2 hits on the head, repeat.
Last phase, stand under it and attack. When it jumps, stand still, repeat.
I don't want to be "that guy" but it really is that easy, I even managed to do it on BL4 first attempt while not being able to do NG Ludwig BL4.
>>337088514
>When it jumps, stand still
I fonud walking 8 steps towards where the tail was last pointing to be very good as well
>>337087673
>make weapons really slow
try harder
would have been a 6/10 attempt without that line
Is it normal for Darkbeast Paarl to kick my head in as a first-time BB player?
>>337088786
I've not tried that tactic, but apparently there's many ways to beat it quite easily. Standing still when it jumps is what I always did and it's never failed, except when I'm an idiot and get hit by its stomp because I zone out.
>>337088868
use heavy weapons and smack his head, he goes down really easily after that
>>337088868
Depends when you find it.
Paarl is pretty easy if you have high DPS since you ruin it's lightning shit and then just stay on top of it.
Loran darkbeast... that's another story. Fuck that thing.
>>337087673
The only thing I agree with is the weapon speed. Even the ludwig longsword was slower than most common enemy attacks. Saws had a good swing speed though.
>>337089098
that's some real bullshit
>>337089098
Lol wat
>>337089000
So Threaded Cane is the way to go? But yeah, I tried going for him after dealing with Amelia.
>>337089000
My Holy Greatsword and Kirkhammer are the most upgraded weapons I have in my inventory right now.
>>337088379
for some reasons Lingering Will wasn't that much of a challenge for me, i died way more times to sephiroth.
>>337088514
i was at NG+ when i faced defiled amy, the real problem with that fight comes for me when one error means she is probably going to one shot me.
>>337087673
Been replaying Bloodborne last few days. Never beat it couldn't get past Paarl last time I'm not a souls guy. Playing again and having way more fun this time around.
>>337089184
Just because threaded cane is faster, doesn't mean it has higher DPS. If you've already got upgraded weapons, use those. Ludwig's holy blade is probably the best vanilla PvE weapon anyway and the standard R1 is fast as fuck, the transformed is good for being under it (which you want to do, roll away when it does its lightning AoE)
>>337089098
Oh get the fuck out of here seriously? I just started the loran chalices and now I have this to look forward to. I'm getting tired of this shit yah know
>>337089229
>glide around the arena: the fight
Sephi 2 is a joke.
>>337089229
NG+ doesn't affect dungeons, they're the same difficulty throughout.
Defiled hot dog on the other hand, that's easy to make a slight error since it has a more aggressive moveset and distance closers, along with AoE attacks. I hate that fucker.
>>337089098
shiiiiiiiiiiet
>>337087673
>make weapons really slow, and remove all magic
>>337089308
Real fight doesn't have the gaping hole in the arena, don't worry. Shit's still tough as balls though.
>>337089098
THE STUFF OF NIGHTMARES, LORANCE
>>337089274
Sounds good, anon. I'll do my best.
>>337089417
What do you mean by real fight? Does the boss room change once you get to a certain percentage of health on the boss?
>>337089736
No, the fight never has a hole in the arena, anon's picture isn't legit.
>>337089782
thanks fucking god
>>337088786
I run to where he jumped from and roll right as he lands, iframes protect you
>>337089417
>>337089308
that's a root chalice version of that fight, the normal loran darkbeast fight in lower loran layer 3 does not have any holes in the floor
>>337089736
that one is from the root chalices. its hell
Is the expansion able to get tackled as soon as it's installed, or is it expecting higher-leveled hunters?
>tfw stuck on ng+ orphan for like two months now
The combination of cheap, stun-locking combos and constant screaming haunt my dreams.
Post ya hoonters
>>337089782
It is definitely legit, it's just not lower loran layer 3.
>>337090065
>do NG+ orphan and ludwig first time
>Laurence takes about 10 tries
>do Laurence NG first time
>Orphan takes about 5 tries
Weird
>>337090098
Oh right, I don't do root chalices outside of farming gems.
>>337089098
ooooo fuck yea! im looking forwward to this
>>337090162
I think you're in the wrong thread m8 ;)
>>337087673
gr8 b8
git gud
>>337090162
>>337087673
>Bloodborne.
>Slow weapons.
Even the hypermassive fuckweapons are faster than Souls straightswords.
This game was built around speed.
>>337088306
You can easily beat amygdala without getting hit once if you bait the jump attack and don't move.
>>337090159
I don't know what it is, but I just can't wrap my head around his parry/visceral window. Orphan's, that is.
I have yet to play Old Hunters on NG. I've only played NG+ onwards.
>>337087673
>no shield
>make weapons really slow
>remove all magic
Someone didn't play the fucking game.
>>337090580
I played first on NG+ so thought it'd be a breeze in NG, felt much harder. Maybe it was because of my build or something.
>>337090086
>>337090396
i did exactly that my man, it was easier once i figured its moves out, but its still a damage sponge that can one shot you. further bosses were easy as fuck.
wish online worked better
>>337090695
>no shield
to be fair, the shield that is in the game is pretty useless for everything except blocking throwing knives
but yeah, I don't get what he means by making the weapons really slow, unless he did the whole game with the transformed Ludwig's Holy Blade.
>>337091049
How much of a pain is it to do an Arcane build in NG?
>>337091168
Only during the beginning if you're fresh with it. If you know where some gems are located, then it's not at all.
Cane/Spear easily carries you throughout the entire game, and Parasite will shit on anything you didn't complete after the DLC.
>>337091168
honestly not that bad, this was my 5th character but you get a fire gem pretty early in the game. I started on whichever origin has the highest arcane and only 5 bloodtinge and then leveled up skill first before stopping at 40 arcane.
my build is kinda shitty but I'm happy overall. I have all of the arcane weapons at +10
>>337090086
bloodletter athird best
>>337091168
From /bbg/
Saved for future use
>>337091427
Bloodletter was my backup weapon until I got a Chikage with blood slot from dungeons (lost or uncanny) but using it, it became my BB weaponfu.
>>337091391
>>337091405
>>337091563
Soon as I'm done my current play, I'll make a new character for this. Lumenwood and some of that magic looks really fucking cool.
>>337090705
No, same. I think it's because the scaling is absurdly high. If ng is 80-90, ng+ is around 120-150.
Ng+ Orphan was such a bitch since he chunks 90%. Ng Orphan was parry fodder next time I paid him a visit.
>>337091752
my arcane character is honestly my favorite
haven't done a new bloodtinge since the DLC though and bloodletter looks pretty cool.
Can the saw cleaver carry you through the game? I really like it and I'm up to Rom.
>>337091916
Have you tried a 43 twink? I used to have a good time invading at cathedral ward, getting people to try to kill me while hiding behind Eileen and the NPCs in the church and they inevitably end up killing them (or aggro'ing Eileen and getting fucked up)
Failed that, I'd just go and shut all their shortcuts, then meet them at the long way around lol.
>>337091996
Every weapon in this game can carry you, everything is viable. Saw cleaver is a beast. Personally I prefer saw spear, same standard moveset, but transformed has thrusting attack, good for Kin enemies and more range.
>tfwthat pig in the sewer ate that little girl.
This is my first time playing, and my heart is ripped out.
>>337092235
You should wait until you encounter her sister...
>>337092235
I'm in the same boat. You'll see worse shit, anon. Trust me.
I got my first chalice not too long ago from the Blood-starved beast.What do I do with it?
>>337087673
>OP is a faggot
whats new?
>>337092010
nah, i don't have the patience to do all of the chalice dungeons <BL50
>>337092581
Put it on the grave stones in the hunter's dream.
>>337091996
Pretty much all the weapons come down to personal taste for PvE anyway, as long as you upgrade and gem properly, so go with whatever you like, fampai.
>>337092581
Its for procedurally-generated dungeons.
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Chalice+Dungeon
>tfw That Sparkly the Craww video got copyright claimed
I hate Youtube.
>>337092914
>>337093297
Ah, gotcha. Hope they aren't too difficult.
>>337093534
They're easy at this point.
You won't be able to access the hard ones until you obtain items later in the main game.
>>337088514
this
defiled hotdog was way harder
>>337088306
It's easy m8. Just go 50 arcane and a call beyond her ass.
>>337093625
Looks like a good way to build up some blood echoes, at least.
>>337093972
You'd think so, but early dungeons give you practically nothing. Still, better to space the dungeons out between the main game, if you intend to do them. Doing them all in a massive chunk is monotonous as fuck, and you'll probably pick up a few useful items like bolt paper, blood vials, bold marks etc..
The only hard boss I've found in chalices as of depth 3 has been the pthumerian descendant. Does that mean I don't suck?
>>337094110
Well supplies aren't a bad haul considering I'm still somewhere in the beginning of the game, I'm guessing.
>>337087673
>ITT: soulsbabbies complain about difficulty because no shield crutch
t.bloodborne master
>>337089098
HOLY SHIT
FUCK YES FROMSOFT
THIS IS WHY WE PLAY GAAAYYMESSS
>>337094327
Chalices only get a sembalance of difficulty once you hit Depth 4 and 5.
>>337097521
>my face when getting swarmed by red spiders
Is Bloodborne's online still populated?
>>337099046
Yeah man. I was just fucking around in it.
Of course the "opt-in" nature for most stages means it's a waste of time.
I wish the chalice dungeons were a bit less of a slog. I love BB but man I don't enjoy the chalices very much.
>>337089884
>the way both of your cloaks get pushed back due to the beast exploding
It's the little things.
Bloodborne threads are comfy
>>337089098
You unlucky bastard.
Fuck you ROM
How do I kill the spider
>>337098031
>that one level where spiders are constantly streaming down a long hallway and there is no feasible way to get to the bell maiden to stop them
>>337100992
Fast weapon, win.
Or rather fast weapon, clear doorway, ignore spiderbabbies to beat down bell bitch(es, in one case), win.
>>337100992
>get to a closed door
>you can see the legs of 20 spiders clipping through the door as they try to get to you
>>337100992
>Lower Loran Chalice Dungeon
>two doors are closed
>open one
>red spiders pour out of it
>kill them
>they just keep coming
>so much in fact that they clog the entrance
>finally squeeze through
>werewolf
>can't deal with it right now and run past it
>make it to the next room
>there are TWO werewolves here
>still followed by another werewolf and a fucking colony of red spiders
>meanwhile, new red spiders continue to get spawned
best weapon or bestest weapon?
>>337090098
Man I loved the way enemies looked in BB.
>>337091168
I did it. It wasn't awful but I'll be damned if I ever "finished" it. Those last max rank gems gems are so awful to farm.
>>337101517
Still a Pizza Cutter guy, myself.
If only the untransformed version wasn't just the pizza cutter on your back, that shit is so lazy.
>>337102102
This is the thing keeping me from using the pizza cutter more frequently. As cool as it looks transformed, it looks lame as hell untransformed. For fuck's sake, it's just a club.
They could have done so many things to improve it.
>untransformed it's shorter, transformation improves range (similar to the Hunter's Axe)
>untransformed it's just a glorified club, transformation involves the hunter revving it up like a chainsaw and going to town
>>337101517
I really like the threaded cane for some reason, From finally made a viable whip weapon by making half of its moveset a sword.
>>337102372
I'd like it if the pizza cutter bit split down the middle and traveled down the club, leaving you with a serrated battle-axe.
>>337089098
kek la kek
now for one that isn't bait:
>Bloodborne Dev 1: I have a great idea! Let's make it so jump and roll have the same button!
>Bloodborne Dev 2: Why?
>Bloodborne Dev 1: Because I like giant black cocks in my gaping asshole.
>Bloodborne Dev 2: Oh that's reasonable. I was thinking we would replace the estus system with my micropenis
>Bloodborne Dev 1: Wow! You'd have a lot of men sucking your insignificant cock!
>Bloodborne Dev 2:Yeah, I wish I could suck them instead, but we can only do so much with the technology.
>Bloodborne Dev 1: As much of a massive cuck as I am though, I would still get too jealous. I think instead we should make flasks an item you have to pickup or buy, that way the player would have to pointlessly farm little enemies in between attempts at bosses for no reason whatsoever.
>Bloodborne Dev 2: Sounds good, though I can't hear you too well through all the AIDs-riddled semen pouring out of my ears. I'll just trust your idea since I'm a brainless retard.
>Bloodborne Dev 2: You and me both friend.
>>337104704
I actually keked have a(you)
>>337091160
Both shields are good for blocking arcane.
wtf is with matyr? I thought you're supposed to parry him, but whenever I try to shoot him, my character shoots in random directions. wtf am i missing?
>>337105969
Don't think you can parry the guy. Just punish his attacks with dodging and light smacks to the arse.
When he charges up his second phase, his him with a backstab (that's charged R2 followed by regular attack from the back)
>>337105969
You can parry him early, but at a certain point he buffs and your bullets bounce off him.
>>337106390
Oh, Well bullets don't bounce if you interrupt his buff. So I guess you can just parry him throughout.
>>337090396
that got patched
>>337106318
yeah i figured out backstab against the bag fucks.
didnt know you backstab him. gonna try that.
>>337106390
so that's it. guess i gotta stop his buff.
I think the only thing they had in mind making Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 was making sure almost every enemy attacked specifically with a staggered out 3-8 hit left-to-right sweeping combo, with no visual tell on how many hits are going to be done before they stop.
It's apparently the only way to solve circle strafing.
>>337106809
Beats tracking, I guess. That shit got annoying.
>>337106809
but it just means baiting is the strat to go with.
>>337087673
'I haven't played Bloodborne but I have an opinion on it anyway' general?
>>337100991
Just avoid the spiders when you can. Use the flame sprayer and/or fire paper on her.
Thoughts on Chalice Dungeons?
>>337107051
good shit just in the wrong game they would be better for Souls.
>>337107051
Shit random generation - premade rooms strung together. Shit bosses that are either boring as fuck or two-shot you at 50 vit with two health gems.
I like their potential for fun co-op/invasion shenanigans but the opt-in nature means that's shit-all too.
Just a fucking mess of design, is what they are.
>>337089408
The magic in Bloodborne was better than any spell in Dark 3, and that makes me mad.
>>337107717
That's because it was all crazy buffs and some projectile replacements that didn't have to be balanced for melee-only characters.
>>337107051
A poor way to make BB not so fucking tiny compared to souls games.
