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STR or DEX?
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dex because poise is broken
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Luck
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>>337080865
Both
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CHA for fun and STR for when it fails.
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>>337082037
Why is this so much hotter than watching it normally
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FULL STR
NO MAGIC
NO BOWS
GREATSWORDS ONLY
FINAL DESTINATION
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Why do people still post shitty scans of Berserk?
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Intelligence
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>>337080865
>implying griffith is dex and not max LCK and CHA
>implying guts isn't 99 STR AND 99 DEX and 0 LCK
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>>337082793
What games besides Ragnarok Online have done luck stat well?
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>>337082270
>>337082037
It's the ass drop.
>>337080865
STR because I like my heavy longsword.
>can still use resins
>the added growth from being heavy with str is stupid
>if I want to use a shield I can switch between parry and skill
What's not to like?
>inb4 using a shield
Don't fucking care as long as I survive.
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>>337083182
Elona+
I'm attacking 5 times a turn and more than half of the hits are criticals. It effects other things too.
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>>337080865
You know who wins that fight, right?
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Mag
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>>337083182
>What games besides Ragnarok Online have done luck stat well?

The Fallout games.
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>>337082037
for fuck sake I've already fapped
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Both
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>>337082037
sauce?
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>>337080865

Guts is STR AND DEX yo
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>>337083680

Samantha Wright
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>>337080865
>implying Guts doesn't have max HP, STR, and DEX

too bad he has 0 luck though.
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>>337083697
Serpico is better example of DEX than Griffith.
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>nobody remembers guts' con score
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>DaS
>like the simple regular longsword
>get shit on
Yet I can't bring myself to use anything else. I always end up with like five upgraded longswords of various elements.
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>>337080865
STR scales better than dex in most cases. Being able to just brute force things is the easier approach.

However. Dexterity is usually very strong early game, where most weapons don't quite support STR builds yet.

That being said. They are both viable, with STR being easier to use than dex in most cases, however if a dex user is a master in his art he should beat the STR user in most cases.
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Take a wild guess
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New chapter fucking when?
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Dex / pyro for life nigga
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>Game has great swords in it and the ability to make your character
>Hey guys wat do u thnk of my Gutz build? xD

I don't know man, why don't you ask the 9,999,999,999 other people making Guts builds?
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>>337084063
2016 :^)
fuck
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>>337080865
INT, always INT
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>>337083768
thanks
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>>337080865
Strength.
People don't understand the killing power of crushing forces.
It doesn't fucking matter if you're wearing heavy armor or no armor. A strong hit from a mace or a strong enough club will fucking destroy your head whether or not you have a helmet.
DEX weapons are very good at hitting vitals, but against heavy enough armor, they would be weak.
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>>337083998
There's nothing wrong with liking a good weapon. I tend to gravitate towards the Dragon Bone fist because it's fun, but my goto is a straight of longsword.
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>>337080865
VIT/CON/whatever the defense/hp stat is.
>not wanting to be nigh-invincible
The look on a STRfag's face when he hits you for 0.2% of your max HP is priceless.
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>luck stat subtly affects a fuck ton of shit the game doesn't tell you about

MAXIMUM

LUCK
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>>337083998
I like the claymore even though the zweihander is generally regarded as better.
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>>337084063
July, IIRC. Right around when the anime series hits.
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>>337084795
WHAAAAAAAT.
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>>337083998
They're imbalanced in PvP in 3, but otherwise using a normal, balanced weapon like the longsword is fine. Claymore and Battle Axe are my favs.
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>>337084885
Yeah, the new anime, m8.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weqvp2inoHo

Though I'm nervous about the CGI aspects, I still have hopes.
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>>337084885
Did you not know there was an anime coming? It's blackswordsman era
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>>337085072
>CGI
why do people still watch anime?
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>>337081346
>LUK
Mah niggah
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>>337085072
Looks like shit. Even worse than the movies. At least it's going beyond the golden age arc.
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>>337085072
It looks similar to the golden age movies. They weren't GOAT but they were good and it was berserk so it was fine
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>>337085191
I'm just excited for more music. If it's anything like the 90's 'Zerk, it's gonna be orgasmic.
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>>337083182
>Crits for days
>Maximum smug
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>>337085237
>and it was berserk so it was fine
Nah berserk deserves better. You're not a real fan.
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>>337085072
Dear lord I can't wait. I really hope the CGI doesn't look idiotic. I just watched Flashpoint Paradox and the CGI was just odd at point.
>>337085089
Not a clue, I'm so happy though.
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dex builds are for women and people who want to be fucked like a woman
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The answer is both. BOTH. IT WAS ALWAYS BOTH.

Guts is an unstoppable killing machine because he is good with BOTH.

Refined weapons are better than all the others because it scales with BOTH.

When are you retarded plebs going to realize that focusing on only one is shit?
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Just look at boxing (or other martial arts). Weight divisions basically put people of similar str together, and then it's up to dex who wins.
But a mediocre heavyweight will absolutely crush a fantastic flyweight, no contest.
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>>337084407
>there's a part in the game where you're scripted to die but if you have high enough LCK you dodge the attack and unlock an alternate route
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>>337080865
>Anti-Dex Argument
>Using Guts as an example
?

He's a ninja with a greatsword.
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dex all day
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>>337085553
Game?
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dex users are flip floppy faggots
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>>337085496
lmao 2kat

2KAT
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>>337085434
>boring, abusive stupid builds at 100+ level
>absolutely no health/defenses at early levels
you're so clever for leveling both anon, but I'd say the best build is 99 in every single stat
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What if I told you there's a third option?
Quality.
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>>337085331
Let me reword it for you spergmeister. It was still fine because it was berserk. I'm just happy it's getting any adaptation at all. It deserves more recognition.
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>>337085638
Swords & Sandals online
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>>337085671
You could y'know... git gud... :^)
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I'll take Strength/Magic if I can.

Become the Mageknight.
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>>337082037
>tfw she's dating a black guy
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>>337084041
>gets killed by plot
Dude was a flaming faggot, but he only died for shock value.
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>>337085885
AHH
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>>337080865
Guts is a combination of both, so both.
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>>337080865
18 STR
18 DEX
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>>337085553
Isn't the slowest heavy hitting guy in that game top tier though?

I only played it for like 10 hours but he seemed pretty nuts.
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Who /GREATBOW/
>not shooting claymores at niggas with sniper precision
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>>337080865
CHA/DEX
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INT
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Never played a souls game before.

Started DaS1 as a bandit last week
dunno my souls level, but I have
>21 vit
>9 at
>28 end
>27 str
>14 dex
>12 res
>8 int
>10 faith

Got a gargoyle helm, rest of the elite knight set, balder shield and just started using the gargoyle halberd.

I'm waiting on the black iron set and gunna make the gargoyle halberd lightning. Probably going to make a raw battle axe just until I can make the lightening gargoyle halberd.

How does that sound? Looking forward to entering Sen's Fortress and Anor Londo tomorrow.
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>>337086161
Weebs BTFO
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>>337085958
BBC CIRCUS
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>>337086148
He is but most people who played him back then were shit
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>>337085072
>cg
Gay. Nipps have no skill with 3d animations unless it's a video game. For some fucking reason they only seem to hire Pajeet's and Dog Eaters for tv/movie animation.
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>>337086247
Seems fine, just remember that most skills have a softcap at 40.
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>not going strength+faith
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>>337086565
But I did, anon.
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>>337086565
>Fat roll cleric
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>>337086678
If god wanted me to roll he would have made my a twink dex faggot who sucks off demons in hell you degenerate
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Full vitality, defense, and thorns/reflect damage.

Come at me bro, I fucking dare you.
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>>337086565
Miracles suck.
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>>337086247
If you like the gargoyle halberd, you'll love the black knight halberd.

The build looks fine for a quality build. Get the dex up a bit, I'd cap it at 18.
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>>337086904
>darkmoon blade
>lightning blade
>great heal
>deep protection
>sacred oath

It's like you never even played a cleric.
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>>337085806
You're shitting me, Swords and Sandals? I remember playing the old flash games.
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>>337087127
Oh wow, three buffs, a single useful protection skill, and healing you should never need ever.
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>>337087304
Oh boy. It's one of those faggots who claims to never get hit.

Sure thing, bucko.
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>>337087127
>darkmoon blade
>lightning blade

limited to generic weapons

>great heal

seriously?

The only really good miracles were the lightning spears and even those got nerfed to hell and back. You might as well dump all those points into LCK instead.
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>>337087304
I guess playing dark souls isn't your style
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str because if you get swole enough it dose not matter what they can do to you.
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>>337083793
he has -1 luck it's a broken luck stat where he'll never be able to die but is always hunted and is in a constant state of nearly dying
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>>337087417
Lightning Spears were only ever good in DS2 before the nerf.

Miracles were never about attack spells, but buffs and utility.

If you want to attack with spells maybe your faggot ass should become a sorcerer and get rekt by dark sword users.
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>>337087387
If you get clipped, there's more than enough Estus, otherwise it's a slow action game with smallish areas (not a criticism in itself) with two different invuln states so no, you don't have an excuse to get hit.
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>>337087592
>whip the shit out of everyone
>you get a wish, what can we give you?
>i want to be stronger
I fucking love this entire series so much.
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>>337087274
Yeah the dev took the series down a hard right turn, and it's a lot better honestly.
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>>337082037
Good lord she's cute.
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Memes aside, dex

Speed is always better than raw power in video games
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>>337082502
My fucking nigger. I do this every time.
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>>337087958
In the series in question, it's just another damage-scaling stat, doesn't make you faster.
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>>337087608
>giving two shits about pvp
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Dex because pretty boys are top tier.
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>>337080865
I'm usually a Dexfag, but I prefer STR in Souls games.
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>dex
>ever
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>>337088404
that's the face she give you before ya'll start playing splatoon
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>99 LCK
>Win every fight due to looney toons bullshit
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>>337088859
>10 LUCK Jinxed in Fallout 1 and 2
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>>337088859
>99 luck
>lose because it's an aRPG.
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>>337088859
I haven't dumped points in luck for any RPG. Is it worth it?
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>>337089086
Depends on the RPG, some of them are completely busted while others are completely useless
Doing a 10 luck unarmed and Jinxed build in Fallout 1 is probably the most hilariously good way to play the game
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>>337089086
Depends on the RPG. Usually it just affects crit chance, maxes out at like 15%, and the crit is just like 50% more damage, fuck that noise.
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>>337088331
DaS? Dex weapon are faster with less start up/recovery frames
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>>337087801
This looks pretty sweet. I'd play it if my computer didn't go down the gutter. It's a sad life with nothing but a 360.
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>>337081346
This. Niggas bleedin' like they made of Kool-Aid.
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>>337089273
Dex weapons have bare stagger potential and take 3 or 4 swings for the same damage.

You can even use range weapons for a str build, just get ur dex to 12.
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>>337089086
Some Luck is always good, but its rarely great.
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>>337086287
FUCK YES.
Always had a mini crush on her, fuck yea.
This gives me hope.
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>>337089569
3 or 4 hits that actually hit > one that never does and is easily parried because of start up frames

Yeah you could do that but then the weapon is worse than if you did a dex build cause it scales off dex better,
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>>337089281
The fuck, it's not Sword and Sandals.
It's Blade Symphony.

Fuck that other guy.
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DEX
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>>337089827
Try to get 3 or 4 hits at a time consistently with a boss. Takes forever. Meanwhile, I can kill golems in just a few swings.
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>>337081346
This fucker right here know's what's up.

>go pure luck
>doesn't matter what happens
>everything goes my way
>because fuck you I chose luck
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>>337082793
Griffith has some strong dex too though
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>>337086280
that's a saber.
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>>337091792
The saber is the weebest of western weaponry, used to show that they have more honor and skill than those plebs that use barbarous guns and greatswords
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>>337086209
Bards are faggots.

>>337086171
Truthfully Greatbows are the only real pure Strength weapon.
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Penis or vagina?
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>dex
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>>337092317
>str builds pride themselves on being pure tank and honorable grit
>constantly use this example of a guy who got trashed and had to resort to the weakest goddamn trick in the book, and personal history with the opponent, to nab a win
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>>337085438

In pro fight scene, there is something called best pound-for-pound fighters.

You can have two equal fighters with equal weights and levels of skills.

Often it's the more dexterous, agile, better poun-for-pounder guy that stomps the stronger yet less agile/dexterous guy.
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>>337093198
Weight usually denotes muscle mass, though, so it's more a case of a strong, agile guy against someone who's just strong.

Another case for Quality Builds, I guess.
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>>337093198
>citing fistfights and grappling

of course the strength user is going to win when strength is all that's left. man made weapons for a reason.
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>>337094120
He was replying to someone using fistfights and grappling.

And if you're using weapons all this shit goes out the window. Any idiot can use a gun. Kids can do it. It's a problem, actually, with the whole child soldier thing.
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>>337085553

That the point when all the fancy animation jarringly resets when you got block confirmation?
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>>337093282

weight is weight

it's more like
> someone who's more agile vs someone who's much stronger

> one guy is 184lbs, lankier, leaner, just barely toned
> the other is 184lbs, but obviously 'bigger' with strong popping muscles
> both have similar frame

now, in theory the 2nd guy would be someone who was initially a 177lbs dude that has been bulking up doing strength workouts

the 1st guy is just a natural 184lbs

in the end though, but is now conditioned to their 184lbs weight

2nd guy is obviously stronger, more brute strength

1st guy don't have jack shit in strength against the other dude, BUT he carries a lot less muscle mass

since they're the same weight, while the stronger guy has the edge in grappling stregth, you can still outwrestle him with skills, and leverage

striking power does not come from muscle size over even strength

so really the extra muscles size and weight is a liability in combat against someone your own size / weight
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>>337095189
So the first guy is a fuckload taller.
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>>337085072
Let me guess, it's the abyss quote again
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>>337095269

there is nothing in my post that suggests he is taller
> both guy is 6'1"

how's this, then?
> 1st guy, 184lbs, 5'11
> 2nd guy, 184lbs, 6'1

similar frame means they have similar shoulder width, or even body build

some could be lankier or just have this square features, and shit due to genetics

you guys talk how a 6'8" 250lbs brute has so much STR over a scrawny 5'10 170lbs dude

of course he's so much more powerful

why don't you compare an 8-foot giant vs a rat? the rat would destroy the giant without it even capable of spotting the rat.

put an equally-sized, weight and skill men against each other
> dex wins everytime
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