Now that every hero has been declared OP at some point or other. So excluding any hero changes, what would you change add to the game?
id put in some ovaries worth watching
>>337077974
Add more maps?
I want zenyatas fire rate to go up a little bit, make widow makers poison trap last a sec longer.
Fix Zarya's secondary fire, make it better, idk how
Buff mercy's pistol fire rate
Lower dva's mech respawn
>>337080387
>Fix Zarya's secondary fire, make it better, idk how
Here's an idea: try absorbing damage with your shields
>>337077974
I would get rid of all the win buttons. No more wall hacks, no more aimbot, no more oneshot combos.
I would get rid of all the abilities with no counterplays.
>pic related literally the only one never called op
More maps, more game modes and making zenyata not a piece of shit.
Stop trying to force this whole epic heroes and villain confrontation with gameplay that does not match.
Seriously the cgi trailers keeps spousing about how awesome and heroic the game is about but the actual gameplay is just you slugging it out with others over a point or a payload.
>>337080598
I fucking love absorbing damage with my shields, but it's still shit, I don't know it may be my shitty aim, increase the splash radius
>>337080741
>is labeled as a tank
>is neither tanky or disrupting to the team
I really want to like using her too.
I fly up to the enemy ready to fuck the one straggler, but then realize fucking Zen without Discord Orb outdamages me and die.
>>337080741
She's op
>>337080972
I disrupt the team by not dying and not rushing in, I try to flank then fly away each chance I have, her ult is beast though
I wish there was a jet plane sound whenever the map loader says "traveling to..."
>>337079801
>>337080387
>>337080952
>>337080972
>>337081097
Learn to read, it's supposed to be not about character changes, there's plenty of threads for that.
I would change bastion's turret mode so it can't shoot behind it. He's the only one that offers high rewards with little to no risks.
>>337081212
Fuck you, I do what I want.
>>337081212
Dude, the game is nothing but characters.
Remove the fucking "Unsupported software detected: FRAPS" message.
>>337081267
ugh, at least that's a good suggestion about Bastion you rebel, you.
>>337080952
nah it's not shit, it's amazing. It bumps people which is pretty awesome to block people against walls or in corner and its damage is more than decent when you amp up. I get gold/silver damage with zarya in most games.Yeah it's not much of a feat when most people are shitters, I know.
Frankly Zarya is really awesome.
If there's no fucking way to choose maps/gametypes in the full game Blizzard is fucking retarded
Nobody ever wants to play Hanamura or Anubis
>>337080598
>I win buttons
Love this meme.
What abilities can you not directly counter and/or avoid?
>>337077974
>McCree's roll needs lower cooldown, 7 seconds is too much for a skill that isn't even that great
>Bastion's turret needs some spread
>Torbjorn's turret needs a limited range
Those are really the only personal issues I see
>>337082298
Widowmaker's team wallhack, free preshot kills for everyone
Mccree's stun+revolver, instakilling everything
Roadhog hook+shotgun+melee, also instakilling everything
Soldier76's aimbot. I remember when we used to need to install bannable hacks to do that.
>>337077974
Just more hero's
Fucking soundquake and fusiobator when
shorten the 40 second assemble team + 60 seconds till round start.
D'vas shield should give a range and damage boost if you shoot through it. Helps out other players and her too.
>>337081267
Bastion needs high damage fall off in turret mode, and a spin up time akin to the Heavy's in TF2. The biggest issue is how laser-like, immediate, and far-reaching the turret damage is.
>>337077974
>Lower McCree's damage
>Add spread to Bastion's turret
>Remove the heal on Tracer's Rewind
>76's ult should have slightly reduced damage on it given that you turn on a fucking autoaim hack
>Improve the damage on D.Va's guns or tighten the spread; don't penalize her mech movement while shooting
>Remove the fuckhuge head hitbox on D.Va's mech
I really want to like D.Va and she can be fun when you're able to do well, but she's really fucking weak.
inb4 some faggot says BUT I GOT 30 KILLS ONE TIME WITH HER
>>337082596
>McCree's roll needs lower cooldown
Are you fucking kidding? The roll reloads his ammo. Nerf his fan damage so he cant kill almost anyone in the game in less than 3 seconds
Let you manually destroy your symmetra sentries
>>337077974
For console, there should be an in-game group thing. Kind of like Destiny has with fireteams, leaving matchmaking requires you to leave the group, kind of annoying.
More game modes would be awesome, if they could manage a campaign mode, it has a lot of potential to be a ton of fun. Also maybe a DOTA map.
More heroes would be cool, I'd love a melee attacker.
Replay editor/saver/sharer, which apparently may be coming later down the road.
Events, not sure if there are any planned but it would be fun to have holiday-themed items, tags, emotes etc.
Seasons and seasonal rewards for higher ranking players, not sure if that's already gonna be a thing or not.
Lower cooldown on Pharah's boost
>>337081212
If that's so then
Fix the fucking map for more flanks and less choke points
Make stuff more vertical but accessible
More health packs
>>337077974
Fun fact. None of the characters are OP. Never did any of the beta testers say that a character was op until 4chan got its hands on it.
>>337077974
Mei nerfed to 200 HP
Zenyatta buffed to 175 HP
Symmetra shields give 35HP
Thats it, everything else is Pretty well balanced.
>>337083221
Dva isnt damage, its your job to be the big target that everyone is supposed to shoot at and stop pushes with your ult. If you're trying to get kills with her you're doing something wrong, Block sdamage with her and be the face. Heck her guns are really good fro putting pressure on rienhart shields and she has a get out of jail free card on mostly anything with her boosters.
>>337083221
Nah she's not weak, I actually top damage with her.
You just need to see the shotguns as melee weapons and should be extremely aggressive with her shift ability. Here how it goes: fly into someone+melee then start firing. This way you'll deal 75 damage before you even start firing.
Add some maps that split up teams more. Some capture the flag maps or multiple capture point maps like gravelpit or cp_well. Have more alternate paths in general. Some maps are decently open and allow for many approaches, but a lot of them are much too tight, and lead to constant blobbing. The small 1-2 person fights are usually more satisfying than giant zerg clusterfucks that happen on a lot of the current maps.
I think sniping attacks need to toned down at least a little. I know there are a lot of ways to avoid snipers but it feels shitty to die instantly if your attention lapses for even a moment, especially against widowmaker's infravision.
I think the medkits should heal a percentage of health instead of a flat amount, playing as mobile characters with a lot health like winston or DVA without a healer on your team to fall back to is shitty since they rely on their ability to disengage and reengage easily and having to scrounge 2-3 medkits between runs takes long enough that you might as well have just died in many cases.
Dont allow doups of heroes.
>>337084276
>Heck her guns are really good fro putting pressure on rienhart shields
Dude stop. You obviously know nothing about the game. Her guns have a huge damage falloff. Shooting the shield from anything but melee range is useless and doesn't put any "pressure" whatsoever
>>337077974
get rid of overwatch.exe
replace it with executable to launch steam to play tf2 instead
>>337077974
>Now that every hero has been declared OP at some point or other.
Junkrat & Mercy haven't. I mean Torbjorn & Bastion still pubstomp new players while remaining bottom tier, Junkrat & Mercy don't have that excuse. I guess people could find Mercy good until you realize the Zenyatta buff he received last month made her existence completely useless & irrelevant.
>>337084592
Considering how Xboxhuge it is, Dva's spread doesn't matter. Since you don't need to reload you can constantly bang on it. Theres no reason not to shoot it since you're a tank anyways.
>>337084918
> Zenyatta buff he received last month made her existence completely useless & irrelevant
>being a fucking liar
>>337083608
This so much.
>>337079620
>whiting the beautiful brown
fucks wrong with you
>>337084996
Where in my post am I talking about the spread of her gun?
The damage falloff means her guns deal less damage the farther the pellets travel, just like in tf2.
>>337077974
TDM where each character can only be selected once on each team.
>>337084463
This is a very intelligent post and I honestly agree so much. Especially about the health part I noticed it so much with Reinhardt.
implement Mercy in hearthstone as a priest hero potrait
>>337083078
>helps out other players and her too
It already helps out other players. Don't use it on trivial things or treat it like Reinhardt's shields, use it to shoot down ultimates.
>>337084918
>Zenyatta
>150hp
>anything but a free kill
>>337083221I've gotten 13 kills with her one time with only one deathI've also won a game in 2:00 minutes by double DVA rush
>>337077974
Mercy needs a buff. Either it be increased base speed, a second ability, or able to use guardian angel without looking at a player. She just needs something so she's not completely fucked if a reaper sneaks up on her or the team dies on her while the ult isn't ready.
>>337086073
>She just needs something so she's not completely fucked if a reaper sneaks up on her or the team dies on her while the ult isn't ready.
So she should never be able to be killed? Because if a team doesn't protect their medic they should be punished for it.
>>337086720
True. But for those situations where the team can't protect their medic, the medic should have SOME defense. That pistol is only effective on mechless D.VAs and Tolbjorns. Everything will fucking destroy you.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting a damage boost. I'm just saying she should have some way of getting out of sticky situations.
>>337077974
capture the flag gametype
>>337080741
I saw several threads started with "DVA OP"
>>337085568
id drop $10 on that even though I only play HS while taking a shit and only casually at that
>>337085395
He's prolly not addressing the fall off because it doesn't matter for how you're supposed to use her.
You're not supposed to be killing people with her, just applying pressure, which she's very good at because her gun doesn't need to reload so it's always ready to poke.
>>337087676
>You're not supposed to be killing people with her
moba/mmo players please go
more heroes
and more game modes
and like lobbys and chatrooms or something
>>337087380
Seconding
Would also like them to remove POTG entirely and add an option to turn off the kill cam.
>>337087837
shitter who doesn't understand his role please go
Damn, can you actually get kicked from a game? I was chatting and suddenly dropped out cause was saying how we massacraing a team of all Meis and how they running around like littel dwarfs.
Buff Symettra
That's it
>>337080741
She's pretty good, just have to use her right.. which isn't like a tank.
>>337082898
That and Roadhogs rebreather tbqh
400 health in about a second
>>337087887
annon.. there is a remove kill cam option you dumb fucking nigger holy shit kill yourself.
>>337088091
>Has a whole ability to nullify damage coming at her.
Yeah...she's not a tank...
>>337087887
You're the only shitter here, and a huge one. I mean to even suggest that the character with one of the best movement ability in the game shouldn't kill people is hilarious.
She deals 168dps at close range without counting her 75 damage near unavoidable opener.
You fucking suck and should fuck off back to your ASSFAGGOTS
>>337077974
Buff junkrat. Delete hanzo
>>337082898
>Complaining about my nigga Roadhog
Nice game Blizzard drones.
>>337088243
The option I found only let me skip it with another button press after 3 seconds, I haven't seen one to take it out entirely.
Low skilled players will tell you bastion and mei are op. But it's actually Mcree and Lucio.
>>337088232
300 actually. It's very annoying but it doesn't one shot you without any counter play. So I'm kind of okay with it.
>>337088289
You must have serious brain damage
>>337088343
This should be renamed "What this rambling says about me"
>>337088402
McCree has no mobility, literally sniper bait. Lucio is pretty good though.
>>337077974
Increase the cooldown on Mei's self-heal or maybe make it heal only 150 instead of 200.
Lower the recharge on Hanzo's ultimate
Slow self-heal on Bastion
Decrease the recharge on McCree's roll
Make it so Tracer's rewind/Reaper's smoke ability can override Roadhogs grapple and Junkrat's trap (no stun ability should be 100% unblockable)
Buff Mercy's rate of fire on her pistol
That's about it. Everything else seems pretty balanced.
>>337077974
MAKE DOOMFIST A CHARACTER BROUGHT BACK FROM DEATH AS AN OMNIC
>>337088772
all this, plus make D.VA able to shoot through her shielding ability or while flying. Maybe increase her damage a bit too. maybe lower lucios HP as well
>>337077974
updated it a little
>>337088772
>Make it so Tracer's rewind/Reaper's smoke ability can override Roadhogs grapple and Junkrat's trap (no stun ability should be 100% unblockable)
D.va can actually boost through Roadhog's stun before he can get a shot off, and I think Reindthart can also use his boosters too.
I think Roadhog hard countering Tracer is fair for how annoying she is.
>>337089256
none of this makes sense, if you're trying to turn it into some epic meme like the smash brothers one, don't bother
>>337077974
McCree and Mei are legit borken they need some tweaks. McCree shouldn't be able to do a better job sniping people than widow or hanzo, and Mei's got too much utility and killing power with her icicle pistol that you can use as a sniper as well.
FUCKING SERVER LIST
FUCKING DO IT BLIZZARD
>>337089545
>no server list for Starcraft 2
What makes you think you're going to change their mind?
>>337080741
I would make the guns fire in unison, and slower with more damage.
>>337089545
lol so naive
An editor and custom server / map list.
Nerf Mei and Bastion slightly, or just gut them and start the normal blizzard balance dance.
Make tank stacking less effective.
>>337090282
>Tank stacking
Yes the old, 1 minute to lose so let us all go 4 winstons and 1 lucio strat, never fails
>>337077974
Something's gotta be done about play of the game but I'm not really sure what could be done. I feel really boring getting it all the time with another mech explosion that people were too dumb to get away from. Sometimes I put a little flair on it like launching it across the map but most of the time I just shoot it forward and idiots don't get out of the way.
>>337090535
I was thinking more 1-2 tanks. Especially on payload it's all but impossible to counter, my friend and i do double reinhardt and when one shield goes down another comes up, no one gets past us and we just walk / sit on the payload till its over, maybe diminishing returns on all shields if there are more tanks in the game?
Also, stacking winston works for me quite often mate, from start to finish and with them swapping strats picking up more reapers and roadhogs but we still win 9/10 times.
>>337089256
What are you trying to do here?
Do you even play this game?
>>337083194
the turret fire should be changed to a laser to more accurately represent how it melts the widowmaker 20 miles away
>>337079620
Degenerate
>current year
>not maining with Tracer
everyone here is a pleb.
>>337089256
just let the original one be
>>337090817
Get some ranks and nobody will ever die to it ever.
>>337091814
Specifically in ranked play? I never got to try it because I only played the open beta. I got up to the 40s but I assume that level doesn't matter since it seems to just be a standard progression system and not a skill based thing.
>>337091910
Yeah no I meant levels, I'm level 50 and get matched with similar levels and everyone instantly get behind cover the moment that triangle appears.
The same goes for the junkrat's tire, everybody just shoot it and it's way less effective than it used to be.
>>337091587
Post the Original!
>>337092306
pretty sure it's this one since it's the one I have seen spread the most
>>337092168
I didn't know the game attempted to find people of a similar level. People still seem really incompetent at the upper 40s.
>>337077974
Roadhog's heal has double the cooldown and heals 1.5x of current value. Recieving damage interrupts it.
Bation's bullets can't go through allied shields.
Mei's weapon has more ammo consumption and more reload time.
Junk's fire rate and splash damage reduced.
Widow's gun no longer hitscan
>>337092587
Thanks!
>>337092707
yep
>>337092670
The problem is that you get match with mostly similar levels and for whatever reason one team will also get a couple of level 10s and it just ruins everything
>>337092937
Yeah that's what it feels like. I imagine it's people trying to search for a match with some of their low level friends.
>>337092587
Better version.
>>337093149
Oh thanks. I didn't have the bigger version because the one I saved was from twitter and they shrink images.
>>337077974
BULLETSPREAD FOR FUCK'S SAKE. SOLDIER 76 AND BASTION HAVE CRAZY RANGE
Anyways, beyond that, after bullet spread, give solder 76 iron sights to balance it out, and then give bastion a mini gun spin up time. not much. Then he can have a right click to keep it spinning. Would go a LONG ways to balancing these two characters in a sane way without really making them useless.
>>337077974
OP? Gimped more like it.
>>337077974
Hopefully ranked game will be better implemented. I don't like that I can't tell when a game is over.
Is it just 1 round? or multiple? And I playing with the same guys after each map? How many rounds per map?
I also hate the transition between games, I need my bathroom breaks and a clear indication that the game is over and I can alt tab before queuing for another game.
I'd like to see some new maps
Maybe a new character at one point
>>337093149
Where does this booty meme comes from? Tracer has no butt whatsoever
>>337093149
I fucking hate repaer
>>337084590
What, you don't want two Bastions sitting far away in the back of a payload round?On the attacking team
>>337089256
You didn't need to update it, it was perfect as it was.
>>337077974
longer maps
I miss that TF2 feeling of spending 15-20 minutes on a payload map
>people seriously asking for Bastion nerfs
Once you get to higher ranks he is literally non-existent because anyone with half a brain will switch to a long range hero/genji and fuck his shit up.
>>337093149
I didn't want to play as the turbo dyke because i hate the whole sjw shit, but she/he is definitely fun to play.
>>337077974
Let the dwarf upgrade his turret to level 3 after a few mins of non stop hammering and ult makes it to level 4.
>>337093886
It's xhe, you cisheteronormative fuck.
Make everyone into girls and give them big futa cocks.
>>337094640
Widow go to bed.
>>337092937
>yfw 3 guys on a team outlevel the entire other team
>>337092587
>Masturbates to androids.
It's not wrong.
>>337094640
>not wanting them to have feminine penises instead
Wow look how gay you are.
>>337077974
Im pretty sure Winston is not OP at all
>>337095090
Winston is one of the best counters to snipers like Hanzo and Widowmaker
Jumps up in their face and makes them run away from their positions
>>337095090
Depends on the map/game type.
In competitive play there are frequently multiple Winstons per team. If you can get yourself a pocket Mercy, you can do surprisingly well in pubs.
More game types on existing maps. Take one of the escort maps, and make it progressive capture the check point. Also a capture the flag game type would be fun and could be on any map.
>>337095234
I agree but being a good pick against Snipers doesnt automatically make him broken
>>337080741
I made a 6 kill D.va ultimate yesterday.
But is more about having the people all togheter.
>>337088302
I love how broken roadhog and krunkrat are right now but everyone thinks they're shit tier because they aren't played in comp
>>337084918
>HEROES NEVER DIE
>>337077974
More maps. Quake 3 arena had 45 Maps on release, plus the arena editor. overwatch has 12 and no arena aditor. This is pathetic
>>337077974
The ability to look down and see my own goddamn body.
It's fukcing
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>>337091512
I hear ya brother
>Now that every hero has been OP, excluding hero changes, what would you add to the game?
SOLO QUEUE MODE
ENSURES PLAYERS PLAYING ALONE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH PREMADE AUTISM THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO BEAT
>But anon, muh teamwork!
Play Ranked or the non-solo queue mode. Make the solo mode give half as much exp. That way the people who rave over hats can play elsewhere, and I can stay low, maybe learn how to play against people my level.
>>337077974
Having played the beta these last couple of days almost nonstop, I wanna say that I really love the game but can't bring myself to at the same time. I want to, sincerely, as much as I love playing it. I like the gameplay a lot, the characters a lot. But it's the matchmaking that kills it for me, and it has me torn on whether or not to buy. I don't wanna get overly pissy because it's beta, that's why I can live with some of the really annoying classes, but god damn the matchmaking is absolute shit. The levels are all over the place and too many times it's been me and two stubborn lvl 8 Genjis who refuse to go a more useful class against a perfect lvl 50 team, which is hypocritical of me to say because then I have to forfeit whatever class I wanted to play and play something we need. I guess the difference is that I do. Horrible stacks are too common and too much of a gamble, I hope they at least do something where they pair you up with people at the same level or around the same, because fuck. I wanted to main Reinhardt but I couldn't because you're literally useless if your team doesn't cooperate, which they hardly ever do.
Remove voice and text chat from random match-ups so I don't have to listen to toxic shitheads
>>337093149
the junkrat one made me laugh so hard but I don't understand it
>>337096989
I've never played a MOBA or a competitive FPS before but there are people I've begun to encounter who I legitimately would hit them over the head with a blunt object if I ever met in real life.
>>337096878
But anon, you can do that with AI matches. Or maybe Custom, I never looked at that shit.Also, uncensored sauce?
>>337084590
This Jesus Christ.
>>337096884
Levels ain't relevant for shit, the game uses a hidden MM system to match people
