When is the Monster Hunter series going to leave the 3DS/Nintendo?
When Sony can beat Nintendo in handheld sales
Next year. MH5 is multiplaform.
>Monster Hunter
>Ever leaving the 3DS
The MH team is lazy as hell. They are going to milk the same engine and assets literally as much as they can before even considering upgrading the backbone of the series.
>>337027742
Probably never
As soon as Nintendo doesn't have the best selling handheld on the market.
>>337028409
Hopefully* never
ftfy
monster hunter is too slow pace and boring for me.
>>337028572
Unless the Vita somehow sells 60 million more units, I don't see it happening
>>337027742
Not in the foreseeable future. The 3DS is the dominating platform in Japan and is cheap to develop for. Sony isn't developing a new handheld since the Vita was a failure, and the series won't be developed for console since it would be too expensive compared to making them for handhelds. They'll jump over to the 3DS successor whenever that launches.
japs prefer to do gather and play mh with other people unless sony manages to create a better handheld that ain't happening
>>337028746
>the series won't be developed for console since it would be too expensive compared to making them for handhelds
Literally one of the major reasons why I'm hoping the NX is some pseudo-hybrid system.
I still can't get over the 3DS being more popular despite being clearly inferior to the Vita.
Monster Hunter would be fantastic on it, yet it can't happen.
>>337029128
Having better hardware really doesn't matter for games
>>337027742
Just play Toukiden instead.
>>337027834
>>337028735
MH makes its own install base. The 3ds numbers mean nothing, MH would push a million Bandai Wonderswan sales in 2016 if it was exclusive to that platform.
Crapcom and Nintendo have an exclusivity deal.
When they have somewhere else to go. Sony loathes games and Microsoft is filthy gaijin.
>>337028081
Unsubstantiated rumours, and more likely than not to be NX.
>>337028917
I doubt it. Their handhelds are too successful to fully ditch a dedicated line, they would be stupid to ditch them in return for an unproven hybrid. All Iwata has said is that the architecture between the NX and 3DS successor would be similar as to allow easier ports to fill gaps in their lineups through software droughts. Look at Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D or Xenoblade 3D if you want examples.
Not to mention when dedicated handhelds die AA, middleware games die with it. If the NX is a hybrid, developers are always going to develop their games around the console first with the handheld being an afterthought. This significantly increase development costs and kills off most AA/middleware titles, just look at the modern AAA industry. Monster Hunter might survive just because of how successful it is, Capcom might give the series the budget needed to survive. But smaller budgeted games like Ace Attorney and Theatrhythm would go the way of the dodo and die off/be relegated to mobile.
>>337028917
Pretty much.
>>337029541
>Crapcom and Nintendo have an exclusivity deal.
What deal? Capcom released four different MH games on different platforms when since Tri came out.
>>337029681
>Their handhelds are too successful to fully ditch a dedicated line
That's why I think they're actually ditching the home console, not the handheld.
>>337029826
All the mainline games since 3 Ultimate have been Nintendo exclusive.
>>337029884
That would be stupid as well. There's too much profit to be made in the console industry to ditch it. Even though the Wii U has been a complete failure, Nintendo has remained profitable thanks in part to Wii U software and Amiibo sales. Now imagine how much money they'd be raking in with a successful console.
What is MHexplore?
Y'know, besides shit.
>>337029486
Not joking when I say toukiden 2 seems pretty damn cool. Played the jap demo and was quite impressed.
I bought the original and kiwami, and while they were alright at doing their own thing, they didn't quite stir the addiction that MH did for me.
>>337030169
Well, yeah, obviously enough. Nevertheless, if they don't think they can compete on that market anymore, maybe they'll be happy enough to provide a portable + console lite experience. I'm not saying I would like it, I'm saying what I think might happen. It's more of a toss-up for me at this time.
>>337029938
And that implies a deal how?
Crapcom and nintendo has exclusivity deal so whenever that ends.
>>337030494
http://stickskills.com/2013/01/19/rumor-monster-hunter-handheld-games-exclusive-to-3ds-for-three-years/
>>337029541
>>337030618
They don't. You stated all the mainline games since 3U has been nintendo exclusive. That's what, 1?
>>337030618
source?
>>337030494
The 300%-1000% spike in 3ds sales the week a new mainline MH is released should tell you everything you need about Nintendo having a deal with Crapcom it somehow we're supposed to believe it's exclusive because MH team is lazy or some PSN trophy urban legend.
>>337030873
>crapcom is known for porting every shit to everything (remember when resident evil 4 was supposed to be GC exclusive?)
>MH3 was supposed to be PS3 exclusive
>they didn't make shit for PS3 when it was outselling the Wii 20:1 for years
>they decided to make one for 3ds even before it's released, and even when the 3ds failed horrible they had to reduce the price by 40%
>>337030169
Last I checked, aside from NES, SNES and Wii, literally all Nintendo consoles sold like shit.
Meanwhile all their handhelds sold like fucking crazy and continue to do so.
I mean, there's money to be made there for sure, but Nintendo can't seem to nail it right most of the time.
>>337030871
>rumor
Oh wow, how convincing
>>337030959
>>they didn't make shit for PS3 when it was outselling the Wii 20:1 for years
>>they decided to make one for 3ds even before it's released, and even when the 3ds failed horrible they had to reduce the price by 40%
>>337030910
Do you think they count only on MH? Did you forget that they also have fucking pokemon and Dragon Quest? Holy shit stop being retarded
>>337029413
Yeah, PC is great proof of that. You can have great HW but without worthwhile games, your platform is just shit.
>>337030959
>>they didn't make shit for PS3 when it was outselling the Wii 20:1 for years
are you from a parallel universe or something
>>337030959
So, why didn't they port dragon dogma, REvelations 2 and some other shit to the wiiu?
>>337030873
>Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate
>Monster Hunter 4
>Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate
>Monster Hunter Generations
>>337031012
It's pretty much confirmed. Nintendo locked up the rights to Monster Hunter for the 3DS back in 2011, killing any momentum the Vita ever had. The 3DS was selling like shit when they announced 3G and 4 in 2011 and both games saved the system and ever mainline game since has been Nintendo exclusive.
>>337031262
no exclusivity deal can stop that
>>337031273
same reason why they didnt port dragon dogma to the ps4
When it's stops being the dominant handheld.
>>337031262
The PS3 was outselling the Wii YOY after 2010 when the Wii fad was over and sales dropped meteorically.
>>337031358
I like how you have to specify mainline, otherwise you'd sound dumb
>>337031358
>counting 4 and 4U as something different
>generations is mainline
>>337031189
But Dragon Quest Minecraft is coming to the Vita. That will sureely save the handheld, no?
>>337031189
You literally did not understand my point and just typed random bullshit, didn't you ?
>>337031627
Generations is mainline, scrublord
>The iPhone got 3 exclusive MH games
>The Vita got 0 (zero)
I so need to know whose daughter Kaz defiled to bring such an unforgiving vengeance from the MH team.
>>337031236
>>337029413
I hope you people are trolling
>>337031627
>generation isn't mainline
That's like saying Strange Journey or Peace Walker aren't mainline just because they're not numbered.
>>337031748
MH team have zero rights to decide on which platform to release for.
Nothing to do with feelings.
The only reason vita isn't getting any MH asides from old ports is the exclusivity deal.
>>337031806
It didn't stop the DS or 3DS from outselling their competition
>>337031857
Strange Journey isn't mainline. Are you going to tell me that Soul Hackers is mainline as well?
>>337031906
Wouldn't an exclusivity deal mean all new MH games would be on Nintendo consoles?
>>337031984
Or the PS1, PS2 and even NES.
>>337031189
But Dragon Quest Minecraft will surely save the handheld, no?
>>337032060
Strange Journey was literally going to be IV
>>337032064
they're all on nintendo portables though?
or if you're talking about ios games, those doesn't count, literally.
i doubt exclusivity deals forbids you to do ios games.
see: street fighter 5
>>337032064
Obviously not. Nintendo didn't purchase rights to the entire MH IP.
Nintendo just wants the games that are historically the system sellers.
>>337031806
They aren't wrong. Limitation breeds creativity. The 3DS isn't powerful, but its games have a distinct style and design that you won't find on most other platforms.
>>337032060
Soul Hackers is a spinoff, Strange Journey plays exactly like a mainline game and was developed as SMT IV.
>>337032123
delete this
>>337032246
>Limitation breeds creativity
fair point, and one I wont't disagree with
what I think they were being retarded about was
>the same games but at higher resolutions and better framerates aren't objectively superior
>pc is a shit platform for games because all it has for it is power; ignoring the fact that far and away the best PC games are old/run on low end hardware
>>337029128
You can have the best hardware in the world, but it really won't matter if it isn't selling because the game library only really appeals to a very small, niche audience of weebs.
The 3DS is more popular because it have a much more diverse library of good games that appeal to a broader amount of people, as well as having all of those beloved Nintendo IPs that just print money like Pokemon to help move systems.
Also, memory cards.
>>337032158
>>337032246
And DMC was going to be resident evil.
>>337032712
vita has weeb games and minimum amount of western games
3ds has weeb games and kids games
dont kid urself anon.
>>337032246
>Limitation breeds creativity.
This is no longer true. The only things limited hardware gets you these days are poor framerate and games looking like dogshit.
>>337032868
And as such? Sony abandoned the Vita at the first sign of trouble leaving it with nothing but weeb shovelware and a small handful of 1st party titles, and Nintendo continued to support the 3DS even through it's rough launch pumping out games still to this day.
Weebshit + "kiddie Nintendo games" is still more diverse than just weebshit.
>>337033262
name some of those "diverse" games anon
>>337032712
None of that matters when it comes to Capcom's decision. MH is part of the small club of third party games that are actually system sellers. MH creates its own install base.
MH does not need to be an exclusive. God Eater 2 still managed to push half a million units on the Vita, Capcom could just make MH a multiplat, except that Nintendo is the one with the most skin in the game since they would lose most of the new hardware sales should it be a multiplat.
>>337033254
>This is no longer true. The only things limited hardware gets you these days are poor framerate and games looking like dogshit.
This is bull. 90% of the 3DS library wouldn't exist without a platform like it. The majority of its library are smaller budgeted/middleware titles that wouldn't exist without a platform where they could be profitable. Something like Ace Attorney wouldn't exist, and be a major success, on a console or PC. The expectation that handheld games are lower budgeted/bit sized affairs compared to their console counterparts allows middleware to thrive. The homogenization of games to exclusively powerful platforms would kill these games completely.
Not to mention the limited hardware of the 3DS means developers have to make up for the limitation with unique art styles and different design philosophies. In 20 years time if you showed me a picture of a 3DS game and asked me to identify which system the game was for, I could probably say 3DS right off the bat because of those factors.
>>337032246
Yeah, chibi models never get old
>>337034371
dont even mention how vita is only lagging behind 3ds for like 5k in japanese weekly sales
> The majority of its library are smaller budgeted/middleware titles that wouldn't exist without a platform where they could be profitable
same could be said for the vita
>>337034589
Too bad it got completely trounced by the developing iOS market.
>>337034461
> The majority of its library are smaller budgeted/middleware titles that wouldn't exist without a platform where they could be profitable
same could be said for the vita
>>337031693
That's what you posted when you posted the rumor, if there was such a thing as an exclusivity deal then it would have ended ages ago. Vitacucks keep saying it's 3 years and keep pushing the date to when that started to prove there nonexistent point. That's as credible as that newspaper that said MH4 was delayed initially so it was multiplat on the Vita.
Hell someone on here once linked an article that they would have had the series on the original DS if the hardware was better.
>>337034741
ps4 is slowly reviving the japanese market
>>337035058
>Vitacucks keep saying it's 3 years
deals can be extended, dumbfuck.
the sole single reason it's still not on vita is the exclusive deal, cold, hard facts.
>>337034461
I can't thing of a single 3ds game that actually needs 2 screens or 3d. Games look like dogshit without a significant trade-off.
Now if we have to dive deeper into game development, limited hardware breeded creativity during a time when creators had to build their tools from scratch. Now, with how complex game making has become, highest earning professionals in a dev team are the coders/engineers, so you want to make the work of these guys as easy as you can by not having them work around limited RAM, weird architectures or poor tool chain mplementation. The idea that limitation breeds creativity is no longer true, hasn't been so for a while now.
>There will never be a Monster Hunter on PC
>>337035378
you can play the portables on emu
>>337035378
There is
>>337035259
Etrian Odyssey needs two screens because part of the charm of the series is making your own maps. You can't really do that on a Vita unless your a fuccboi who likes automapping or trying to smudge your screen with your finger.
>>337035498
>Emulating Monster Hunter
>Playing solo
>>337035217
>exclusive deal, cold, hard facts.
I have a Vita, N3DS, Wii U, and a PS4 so I don't care what platform MH is on, but I keep hearing about this deal. You say it's a cold hard fact, so show me the source to back that claim up. I'm actually curious as to where people are pulling this from. Show me a source that says Capcom has a deal with Ninendo to keep releasing MH games on their platforms. I have never seen a source.
>>337035217
Show me the proof cuck, the only cold hard proof we have is the Vita is dead in the water and has no MH game of it's own.
>>337035573
you could just disable the minimap and draw ur own map on a fucking paper
>>337035782
vita is not dead, in fact, it beats the 3ds in weekly sales from time to time.
and the weeks it doesn't it lags behind 3ds by about 5k on average
>>337035573
As long as there is an alternative way to do it, it's not really required. I say this because the games that actually used two screens in a unique way like Trace Memory, Love Plus and such are pretty much gone from the market.
>>337035728
next you're gonna tell me to find a source that says sony have exclusivity deal on street fighter 5
>>337036071
>SFV
>exclusive
what
>>337035725
>emulation means solo
Not if you have friends. Rev up that ad hoc.
>>337036071
I'm not because we are talking about MH.
>>337035963
The only time this entire year it's beaten the 3DS in Japan is the DQ Builders metal slime bundle. You have to remember this is only Japan, so even in the country where Vita sells most it's still leagues behind 3DS, especially in lifetime sales. We can't even bring up it's western performance because Sony likes to hide those numbers.
>>337036071
Well they blatantly put the shit on there site as a *Console Exclusive* or whatever.
>>337028746
>cheap to develop for
This is a flat out lie
Literal who indie games like Doorkickers can get physical Vita releases while only the biggest names can afford the 3DS eshop
If the 3ds development was cheaper, tge 3ds would get all those weeb and indie shovelware ports
>>337036224
companies don't usually say in the open that they bought exclusivity for a game
>>337036328
sony never said anything about they paying crapcom for exclusivity.
and MH is nintendo exclusive.
>>337035856
Yeah I'll make sure to bring a pen and paper everywhere I go thanks my man.
>>337035782
The problem with not believing that Crapcom has a deal with Nintendo is that you have to picture Crapcom executives looking at Media Create reports, looking at the huge spike in 3DS hardware sales the week a new MH is released, and fiddling with their thumbs while thinking " good for Nintendo!".
I know you guys sometimes have trouble grasping basic concepts around this business, that's why you believe in bullshit like leltrophies or MH team is lazy.
>>337036387
>Literal who indie games like Doorkickers can get physical Vita releases while only the biggest names can afford the 3DS eshop
That's just because Nintendo has standards, and a library which can afford not to accept every pile of doo-doo available.
>>337035259
Kid Icarus: Uprising's controls were fucking superb, even if the system's ergonomics were not. Same with Prime:Hunters on the NDS, because the touch screen allowed for reflex-based gameplay and more precise controls.
TWEWY basically requires the second screen. It's non-negotiable.
>>337036784
>TWEWY basically requires the second screen. It's non-negotiable.
then why is there an ios port?
As a huge fan of monster hunter i was sad to see the games on wiiu 3ds and mobile only because capcom is too lazy to make HD assets but then i discovered dark souls/ Bloodborne and those games are 10 times better than any monster hunter im not even baiting
>>337027742
It already left, see Monster Hunter Explore
>>337032246
>Limitation breeds creativity
>>337036625
Explain all the mobile tier garbage that clogs the eshop.
>>337036939
limitation breeds abomination
>>337035259
>I can't thing of a single 3ds game that actually needs 2 screens or 3d. Games look like dogshit without a significant trade-off.
Kid Icarus Uprising, Theatrhythm, Entrain Odyssey, and a multitude of other games that greatly benefit from having duel screens for stuff like inventory selection, like Animal Crossing and Zelda.
>Now if we have to dive deeper into game development, limited hardware breeded creativity during a time when creators had to build their tools from scratch. Now, with how complex game making has become, highest earning professionals in a dev team are the coders/engineers, so you want to make the work of these guys as easy as you can by not having them work around limited RAM, weird architectures or poor tool chain mplementation. The idea that limitation breeds creativity is no longer true, hasn't been so for a while now.
I disagree heavily. You're only thinking about complex and highly budgeted AAA games, which aren't flat out aren't being made for handhelds. Handhelds games have significantly smaller budgets, compared to their AAA counterparts, and simply aren't as resource intensive or complex to make because of their scale. You're also missing the point that these middleware, AA titles would not exist without for handhelds. The expectation that handheld games are lower budgeted/smaller in scale affairs allows for these games to thrive. Something like Ace Attorney would not be a success on a powerful console because of the expectation that major console releases have to be huge, complex AAA games. Would it be easier to develop a simple Ace Attorney game for a more powerful platform like the PS4 compared to the 3DS? Probably, so long as the scale of the game didn't increase. Would it be successful? No, these type of games wouldn't get made without a platform where smaller budgeted games like it can thrive.
>>337037024
It's not softcore porn?
>>337036625
So that means it's not cheaper to develop for it, thanks for agreeing
Sony isn't going to make any more handhelds so MH is forever going to be on Nintendo handhelds.
>>337036784
>Kid Icarus: Uprising's controls were fucking superb
I wouldn't call giving yourself carpal tunnel over something that could just be solved with a right analog superb.
>>337036492
I mean they funded the game to be made it's not like they were gonna fund it and let it be on Xbox. They needed something out of this.
>>337036598
Yeah I'm sure when they saw how poorly MH3G did on the 3DS as opposed to previous series entry they said yeah were gonna keep this shit going. Hell everything from E.X. Troopers to Gaist Crusher that they made on the 3DS should have been a sign to avoid this console.
>>337037120
Then why are two Senran Kagura games available? Or Conception 2? They play like shit.
>>337037253
more like sony funded the exclusivity
theres literally ZERO reasons to not put it on xbone if not for exclusivity deal
>>337037092
>You're only thinking about complex and highly budgeted AAA games
Nope, I'm actually thinking of smaller teams with limited budgets who are helped the most by less limiting hardware. Do you think the 3ds not being compatible with accessible tools like Unity are hindering the big players the most?
I hope soon. Graphics on 3ds are abysmal, resolution being the worst offender, it's what phones had 10 years ago for fucks sake.
>>337027742
When Sony apologizes to the Monster hunter team
>>337036387
Just because the Vita is cheap to develop for doesn't mean the 3DS isn't either. The Vita has fostered an environment where small indie games and weeb games can be big successes, and that's great. The 3DS has fostered an environment where traditional AA games can be successful. One doesn't preclude the other.
Also, have you looked at the 3DS eShop? That's a shitton of indie shovelware.
>>337036387
>only the biggest names can afford the 3DS eshop
wut
Eshop is full of indies and shovelware.
>>337037542
Makes me sad for the developer of Xeodrifter, first month it was released on PSN it was free on PS Plus and ever since it's sales were complete shit, all the effort in porting the game was pretty much wasted when they didn't make that much profit off it.
>>337037223
>reducing reflex-based controls and precision
Why would you handicap yourself like that though? Later difficulties basically require that you be able to aim quick.
And it wasn't the control scheme itself that was bad -- like I said, it was the system's ergonomics. If you were clever, there was a really simple way to hold the system that allowed for a rigid grip and full control without any discomfort, that being having the right hand's pinky finger under the system, ring finger curled around R and possibly even resting on the power port, and the front corner of the system lightly resting in your palm, which curves as you hold the stylus and allows a platform for you to put a little pressure against for stability as you brace it more heavily with your left hand, having the middle, ring, and pinky fingers under the system, although I personally liked to curl my left pinky around the front left corner of the bottom left corner of the system which shifted it ever so slightly to be even more comfortable.
>>337037846
>Later difficulties basically require that you be able to aim quick.
But you can aim quick with a second analog fampai.
>>337037803
If whatever the PS plus contract offered was bad indies wouldn't be lining up for it.
Doesn't the vita have good monster hunter clones though?
>>337037445
It seems like you're mainly thinking of Western indie companies, in which case you've made good points. But the 3DS has always thrived on middleware/smaller budgeted Japanese games from developers like Square Enix and Capcom e.g. games like Bravely Default and Monster Hunter. These type of games make up the majority of the library and have the backing of their own internal engines and development tools. As for indie games, there's certainly a market for them on 3DS but you're definitely right in saying more accessible tools would have helped teams make their games easier to develop/port.
Can you explain to me why exactly MH series switched from psp to wii and 3ds? DId Nintendo just win the bidding war for the franchise or did sony just thought they're hot shit with their clones on vita and that they don't need it?
>>337038019
Not as quick as with stylus, fampire. Second analogues operate at a static speed per position, and furthermore you'd need to bind aiming to the camera which, after having experienced KI:U with aiming unchained from the camera, I just can't possibly in good conscience support.
>>337035378
Google sempai?
>>337038203
Yes. Freedom Wars, Soul Sacrifice: Delta, Toukiden: Kiwami and Toukiden 2, God Eater Resurrection and God Eater 2 Rage Burst. Something else...?
>>337038269
sony pissed off mhteam with some achievement debacle or something, so after they made P3rd, they went to Nintendo and they gladly accepted them with whatever they wanted to do
>>337038428
*tips tinfoil hat*
>>337038269
Probably a larger audience, especially in Japan. Most kids and adults in Japaloo have a 3ds and are the intended target of MH. The West is somewhat irrelevant.
>>337038271
Dude KIU is just a third person shooter with rail shooter elements. If that control scheme was anywhere near decent Nintendo wouldn't need to upgrade the 3ds with a nub.
KIU is divisive at best. Good controls don't need to be explained. Nobody needs to explain Super Mario 1 to you.
>>337035259
>3D
Not many "need" it, but I always loved the 3D and used it all the time.
>2 screens
Etrian Odyssey comes to mind, along with a lot of other JRPG's. Also I find it comfortable, especially with clamshell design.
>>337037091
Sure, if you're backporting.
>>337038518
google it nigger, there's articles and rumors everywhere
>>337038620
>good controls don't need to be explained
Factually erroneous, because good controls can on occasion need to be explained, simply because they are outside of the norm or because there might be so much going on with the game that those are the only controls that fit, and changing the controls might necessitate changing something core about the game.
Just because something is intuitive doesn't mean it's good, and just because something is unintuitive doesn't mean it's bad. When it comes to most games, it typically means it's cookie cutter.
>>337038269
Because they carved out their own niche with the PSP and MHF, MHF2 and MHFU. They wanted to see if the game can be a success on a handheld and it was. DS probably couldn't handle those games, both hardware wise and network wise. They made the choice of 3DS at the start of the new hardware generation because it was healthier and they are going to do the bare minimum of work anyways. There is no middle school bullshit explanation like they got angry at sony, it's just money and they want to keep the playerbase of any one game undivided. PS4 has a strong chance of getting a new one because of how well it is doing whenever they decide to improve their assets.
>>337038901
Nope. Good controls don't need explaining, they are intuitive and natural. The problem with KIU is that not only it requires you to hold the console on a completely unnatural way, it can even lead to pain and injury. This is not good controls.
>>337038135
They get some amount of money before hand but not as much as if they'd just sold it as is. Renegade Kid has only just recently tried doing more PS stuff so to see it bite them in the ass is a bit disheartening.
>>337033254
That's not the fault of the hardware, that's the fault of creatively bankrupt developers that demand GRAFIX at the expense of everything else.
Fucking hell the 3D revolution ruined video games.
>tfw no mh4u on wii u
>>337039109
>ps4 has a strong chance of getting a new one
>a console with even worse sales in Japan than the fucking Wii U has a strong chance of getting a new MH
>in a nation that largely prefers face to face interactions when gaming and portability for commuting and breaks
>for a franchise that mostly caters to its homeland
You're fucking retarded. Also, the MH's team's relationship with Sony had been straining over little things for ages. The Ad-Hoc and Trophy shit over localization were just the straw on the camel's back as we KNOW the MH team wanted to localize P3rd, and their experience with Tri and Nintendo seemed pretty favourable, plus Ryozo was interested in what the second screen could do for them. Bada bing, bada boom.
>>337039249
>completely unnatural way
Unusual? Yes. Unnatural? No.
>even lead to pain and injury
Only if you're really digging the 3DS corner into your hand really fucking hard. There's nothing strange about holding a stylus over your screen, the only unusual thing is using your hand and fingers to hold the screen up at the same time.
>good controls don't need explaining
Again, factually erroneous. Why do you think Tutorials are a thing? Why do you think Manuals were a thing?
The only reason this idea ever got any weight was because during the PS2/Xbox era the majorty of fucking games used a standardized control scheme based around extremely similar controllers.
I bet you think Mechwarrior 2 operating like a tank on keyboard-only controls was bad, too.
handhelds are dying
MH will turn into mobile trash like the rest
one by one, it all comes apart
>>337040337
Handhelds won't die so long as Japan exists.
>>337040337
MHEx is already here, the end times are upon us brother
>>337039609
If they dropped MH4 onto the Wii U I'd buy one in a heartbeat, but they never will. MH is a handheld seller in gookland.
>>337040126
>le trophy shit again
Why are MH threads always infested with this urban legend? MH is a game with an expensive marketing budget, how naive are you if you think this is how such decisions are made?
>>337040416
The entire gaming industry is dying in Japan.
>>337040459
>ignores everything else said
>>337040459
Just because I mentioned it doesn't mean that I argued that it was the primary reason. It was literally the cherry on top of a laundry list of shit that happened behind the scenes that never got disclosed.
>>337027742
Never because they want to keep milking the engine they've been using since the first MH.
When they make a full transition to mobiles because handhelds are dead.
>>337039389
No. Back then it used to require coding talent because of limitations like the amount of data you could fit in a cartridge and such. Nowadays the talents expected from a programmer are completely different since most limitations no longer exist.
The thing about the 3ds is that you're not even trading graphical quality for battery life anymore.
>>337027742
Generations is probably the last 3ds MH. I expect MH5 will be on NX
I doubt they'd go back to sony as the MH team are notoriously stubborn. There is no way they'd release on PS4 as home consoles dont sell in Japan anymore
>be in high school
>capcom annouces mh tri for the ps3
>go out the next day and spend all of my good boy bucks on a ps3 even tho i already had a 360
>couple months later capcom says sorry we decided to go with the wii instead
>gotta save up more good boy bucks to buy a wii now
And thats the story of how i ended up with a xbox360, ps3, and a wii
>>337041030
The PS4 has been the best selling console, even with the 3ds numbers added, for over a year now.
>>337041030
>I expect MH5 will be on NX
>There is no way they'd release on PS4 as home consoles dont sell in Japan anymore
Can't even keep consistent for three sentences.
>>337041619
Good boys deserve good things and many consoles.
>>337037091
This second screen meme needs to be put to rest, a map screen like most games that use it for it is a waste of battery, and the resources could be spent making the thing have a tolerable screen, instead of that garbage where you can see the pixels.
>>337042129
It won't be put to rest, the vita failed, the 3DS won. No one wants a handheld without the clamshell design because frankly it's just more vulnerable to have your screen exposed at all times.
>>337042384
They could have a clamshell design without 2 screens, like the GBA sp had
>>337032812
Not the same thing retard
Only reason it isn't SMT IV is because it doesn't take place in Tokyo. It's got all the other things that make mainline mainline. Is it not mainline just because of that fact?
>>337041650
Worldwide.
Not in Japan.
Literally the only place that the Monhun Dev Team cares about developing for, even if they're not opposed to letting Westerners enjoy the game also.
>>337041710
You are aware that the NX is not likely to be a conventional "home console", correct? Even if it is a console, there's a very good chance it will be labeled as some kind of portable console.
Think about it. They merged their Handheld and Console divisions together to develop this fucking thing. They tout it as a third pillar outside of handhelds and consoles. It's probably going to use a cartridge-based system. They're using flexible screen tech.
>>337042384
I bet they ditch they dual screen with the next one desu. Just a feeling. That had little to do with why the 3DS picked up tho. Nintendo dominates handhelds because they have large IPs they can launch and they'd have like 10m users easily. Pokemon usually sells like 10m alone. Like they could release a new handheld next March. Give it Animal Crossing, some other shit and then a new Pokemon later. Boom you just outsold all over Vita again.
>>337043340
Nope, I literally meant in Japan. Worldwide is a no brainer. Go check media create.
>>337041650
It's barely outselling a 5 year old handheld on its way out soon. As soon they launch another one with Pokemon and Yokai Shit, it's over.
>>337040435
Having MH3U was nice but wish they kept up with further wii u versions
>>337042129
>second screen meme
Nah. I hope they keep it for ages to come. Just because most games barely use it doesn't mean all games barely use it. MH's second screen usage has been pretty good so far, even if not particularly mind-blowing.
>>337027742
Nintendo's next handheld projected sales: 20 million. Yeah, every 3rd party is leaving for mobile market. Suck it Iwata.
do you guys think mh5 will be on the vita
>>337027742
Why should it? It plays really well on the 3DS. Sounds like you want it to leave just cause it's Nintendo. Stupid reason
>>337044526
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwBJwjCI9RE
What is being done in the second screen that couldn't be done in one screen? Seriously this question is what comes to my mind every time I see dual screens gameplay, including Wii U titles.
They could use the space to put a trackpad or more buttons after ditching the second screen
I'd literally pay hundreds of dollars for a console MH
>>337044047
It may be selling more than the Wii U currently, but that's because the Wii U's install base is pretty much set right now at the end of its life whilst PS4 is still getting games. Lifetime, it's still behind the Wii U and will be for years to come in Japan. There's no reason for Monhun devs to move over to a Sony system right now, especially not a sony HOME CONSOLE in JAPAN.
Only reason the handheld market is dying over there at all is because mobiles have become so powerful. It doesn't mean the PS4 --which is at like 2.7m sales in Japan compared to the Wii U's 3.1m-- is suddenly going to be the system to be graced with the next MH. That's ludicrously stupid. They're more likely to stick with the 3DS than move to the PS4.
>>337027742
They go to whatever is most convenient for them at the time.
>>337028081
The mainline devs don't do multiplatform unless there's crossplay.
>>337045161
>more buttons
whyyyy
>trackpad
lel
The second screen IS more buttons. Customizable buttons, at that. Why the fuck would you want to clutter your hunting screen with more buttons when you could have more space to actually see shit?
>>337045459
more like buttons that drain battery life
I could see shit better with a bigger main screen rather than a second screen that will be used for stuff that could be on the main screen anyway.
>>337045267
I didn't mention the Wii U anywhere. I said the PS4 is beating the 3ds currently.
I'm not the one who said MH will be on the PS4. Honestly I think the IP is set to move completely to mobile.
>>337045598
But what you suggested was putting the buttons on the main screen. Even if the main screen was made bigger, the actual hunting screen wouldn't change in size, but if you removed the buttons, it could.
Like, I put my fucking map and teammate info on the bottom screen to minimize top screen clutter without sacrificing the ability to actually look at those things.
>>337045820
I don't think it is. They really seem to like this whole second screen gimmick.
>>337038269
I remember reading somewhere Capcom wanted money from Sony for MH vita and Sony refused. I don't know why would they do that while knowing it's a pokemon tier system seller.
>>337045904
The platform choice is a business decision. Who gives a shit about dual screens if the dedicated handheld market keeps getting smaller by the second.
>>337045820
They moving completely to mobile is my biggest fear, even if it is a good game or I have to buy one of those fugly phone gamepads, deep inside me I would feel bad
>>337027742
when there's another system that's even more shit than what Nintendo comes out with that would let them keep production costs low. when there's a more populous group of shit eaters that will buy the same thing over and over than the Nintendo audience.
never ever
>>337046734
Show where you "read that somewhere" or don't even bother bringing it up.
>>337029610
>and more likely than not to be NX.
now this is a meme.
making current gen assets would cost way too much
they'd rather release cheap shit on the 3ds and make bank anyway rather than taking risks
especially since they can just add like 5 monster each time and you will still lap it all up like the junkie you all are
>>337046868
>dedicated handheld market keeps getting smaller by the second
Does that really matter if the userbase already exists? Why spend money developing a new engine to take advantage of a another system when they can just pander to the 20mil 3DS owners already in Japan for a fifth time?
Besides, Sony's already got MH replacements. At that point they'd just be competing.
>>337046734
Sony wanted the Vita to be successful in the West where most of their income is from and where MH was never big. Why would Sony lose any sleep over losing MH?
>>337047162
>content -> quality
It doesn't matter if they've only added five new monsters. If they've changed returning monsters significantly, added new areas, made new equipment, and introduced new mechanics, that's more than enough. Hunter Styles and Hunting Arts and Outrage and Two-Name Deviants are a lot even if the core game doesn't change all that much.
>>337047557
i bought it too anon
i'm just saying
>>337037270
Senran Kagura 2 on 3DS is T, I think you're thinking of the Vita games which actually are as lewd as their reputation
>>337047097
You want me to dig up a 5 year old article for you?
>>337047738
I don't know why but I thought I was arguing with someone else.
So, apparently a release date announcement is set to be given this month
>>337047750
Name a game, Monster Monpiece and Moe Chronicles are as lewd as it gets but you are saying the system is flooded with games like it. The next tier down is literally Senran Kaguras content.
>>337047761
Yes.
You console warriors make me sick. I don't care what console Monster Hunter is on because I'm buying it regardless. Why do you faggots want it to be exclusive? So the multibillion dollar company that you're rooting for makes a profit despite not giving a shit about you?
wew lads
>>337047339
Because install base and active install base are different things. Capcom must likely already has enough data to expect handheld game sales to keep declining.
>>337027742
Hopefully never, Sony era Monster Hunter is garbage.
>December rolls
>MHX team releases a patch which adds more older monsters and G-Rank
>Releases worldwide at the same time and costs 20 bucks
Would you buy it?
>>337048260
I want it on something where it'll make them improve their models and textures for once. I'm kinda sick of seeing PSP assets. Has nothing to do with my console of choice because I have everything. I don't want the thing on Vita either because they would just reuse assets again. Why do you not give a shit about anything that you enjoy?
>>337048326
Except 3DS Monhun sales have done nothing but climb.
>>337048547
Not really, unless they add in my waifu Glacial Agnaktor, or a land-tweaked Gobul that operates in and out of mud.
>>337048789
>>337048326
Okay I fucked up, yeah 4G sold less than MH4 in Japan but I'd argue that's because it's a G-game.
>>337035728
>>337045030
IT'S A CONSPIRACY GUYS!! BIG BAD NINTENDO IS CAN'T BE ALLOWED TO HAVE EXCLUSIVES!! SURELY THEY'RE FORCING CAPCOM INTO DOING IT
>>337027742
>When is the Monster Hunter series going to leave the 3DS/Nintendo?
Would you still be saying this if their next handheld was actually strong hardware wise?
Daily reminder that the install base for Vita games outclasses the 3DS.
Monster Hunter would be saved if it was on Vita, Nintendo is holding it back as always.
>>337049515
>he actually believes this
>>337049515
and I will savor those 240ps of true and original fun huntan while you keep your 900p HD soulless clone experiences
>tfw no PC monhun
>Glorious HD
>An actually decent friend/party/guild system
>VOICE CHAT
>Mouse and keyboard master race
>No more claw grip
Forget about that MHO tencent garbage though, not even a decent English patch for it.
>>337049515
Bait
>>337050185
I would take anything over another handheld honestly.
I'm tired of PSP/3DS resolution /framerate /models
I guess MHP3rd with PSP clock set to max wasn't that bad but the battery life for that is like 2 hours.
>>337047097
Not him but that isn't hard to believe at all. Capcom knows MH is a system seller so most likely they walked into Sony and Nintendo asking what they could offer for exclusivity and Nintendo won the bid.
>>337048998
MH has been on a decline ever since Tri
>>337050185
>wanting a guild
Lone hunter needs no help
Japan makes up a gigantic amount of the sales. They'll just release MH5 on the NX handheld since Japan also loves Pokemon too.
>>337050448
Emulate P3rd HD on PPSSPP, it works and the game looks gorgeous
>>337050628
>not on PSPs anymore which were literally fucking everywhere for ages and fucking everything was on it and most of their userbase was there
>shift to a console with a totally from-scratch approach to the series for the first time in ages
>then to another, relatively young handheld that doesn't have any killer apps to really attract a huge userbase pre-jump
Yeah, no shit. P3rd was one of their best selling games to date, but that's largely because of the huge install base that's already on that system. When we consider the factors of moving to a new system, the trend has largely been upward except in the case of the G-game. MHX is admittedly not that much further ahead of MH4G, especially compared to MH4, but that could be down to the fact that it's such a huge difference compared to previous MH games in terms of how much the basic gameplay has changed. That said it's probably set to bypass MH4U in terms of total sales worldwide.
>>337035725
>playing monster hunter in any way but solo
whats the point, i tried it few times and it was worse than dark souls summoning for bosses, it trivialises everything.
>>337028359
im still mad they cancelled the ps3 title. would've changed the series drastically i bet
>>337052142
>Capture the monster quest
>that one faggot who kills him
some do it on purpose, others are just retarded
>>337051385
http://nintendoeverything.com/capcom-reports-latest-financial-results-monster-hunter-x-was-a-major-hit/
This was 3 months ago, MHX sales were at 3.2m while MH4's lifetime (includes 4U) were at 4.1m and if you factor the upcoming western release it will surpass 4. It may even overcome P3rd's before 5 releases
>>337027742
Not soon enough.
>>337051013
Top kek autismo with no friends detected. Hunting with other people is half the fun of the game.
NEVER HAHAHA
SONYGGERS BTFO
LOLOLOL
>>337053006
>Wanting cucks spamming guild chat
>Wanting randoms in "guilds" while you damn well know they are ERP faggots
No thanks, I may hunt IRL with bros but lone hunting is the true way to test your value
The Japanese like to play MH on the go with local multiplayer and is massively popular that way. As long as this is true, consoles are never going to be a priority and seeing as how Nintendo has the only handheld that sells right now, I wouldn't expect it anytime soon.
>>337053606
Probably more likely to move to mobile than home console.
>>337053606
>what is vita
>>337053773
A handheld that doesn't sell well enough even in Japan to be worth developing a port and splitting your player base for.
>>337052669
Neat.jpg.
>>337027742
When that shit stops printing money so....never.
OH PLEASE PISS AWAY MULTIPLE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON A PLATFORM THAT'S NOT 1/1000 AS ESTABLISHED FOR A FANBASE THAT DOES NOT LIKE MH!
OH FUCK YES!!
MUNNEY N DA BAHNK
>>337054106
Every single 3ds/Vita multiplat (not that there are a lot of them) has sold better on the Vita. I don't think you understand who's the most concerned about a Vita port between Capcom and Nintendo.
>>337032672
Name four vita games that are objectively better then the top four 3DS games because of their resolution and framerate.
I'll wait.
>>337028917
I hope the NX is a fucking powerful as shit smartphone.
>>337055181
It's gonna be an ipad with cartridges, mate.
I want to get into mister hunter. Should I start with the original or get the new one?
>>337055387
Monster*
>>337053764
They are trying, but it's not really selling as well. That and there are already a dozen other mobile games out there that ape it.
>>337055387
Monster Hunter Generations probably isn't due for another month or three, so I'd suggest getting Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate currently.
These aren't games with any kind of narrative structure that you need to pay attention to, 4 Ultimate aside (and even then just barely), so the only reason to go back is to experience the series' roots, see how far it's come, and want to learn to kill yourself to never play it again.
>>337054995
The established fanbase on the vita has already been Surpassed.
>>337052669
>>337055617
Thanks
>>337055181
Whenever people claim the NX is going to be a smartphone I need to remind them that Sony and MS, the guys Nintendo can't beat on their hometurf, are bleeding money and getting their asses handed to them on the smartphone market.
I literally can't think of a faster way for Nintendo to file for bankruptcy.
>>337056340
inb4 Nintendo has actually been developing its own OS for personal home computing use
>>337056507
Not sure if I would trust Nintendo with handling an OS after their cracked security records
>>337056637
It's taken literal years for anyone to find a way to crack their security. Literally anyone else gets it done in months.
>>337056852
Yep. How long was project dolphin? 8 years? 9?
>>337057430
Dolphin has been around since Wii, right?
Monster Hunter being on Wii U should be the PROOF that Nintendo has a deal with Capcom. Why in the holy fuck would they make a Monster Hunter for Wii fucking U
>>337038203
I want to like them but they're all post-apocalyptic demons and shit. I dont wanna fight that. Make realistic animals.
>>337036846
Not that guy but maybe the gameplay isn't as good on the platform?
Kinda like how SFIV on iOST and Androiid platform isn't good either due to control scheme.
>>337058760
Because third gen started on console and would end on console? I'm pretty sure 3U was more for the West than for Japan.
pls bring monhun to Vita
