What do (You) want to see in the next Mario Kart?
>>337018542
A course based on Sarasaland
Roy, Marth, Robin and Lucina are long overdue.
>>337018542
More tracks.
I don't care about characters as long as Toad is in. But I want more than just 4 new and 4 retro.
The DLC in 8 was a step in the right direction, but I want the base game to have more.
Also more modes than just Grand Prix, Time Trial, and versus/online.
it being a little fun spinoff game of the mario series, given that the main titles are nicely represented,
instead of it somehow being the only mario game series that isnt shit now, and just for being a baseline normal game
I want Battle mode back
>>337018951
No.
>>337018951
its MARIO kart, not nintendo kart
>>337018542
-Double Dash partner mechanics and characters from the game
-n64 battle mode with battle mode specific maps
-more retro tracks
-more NES tracks
>>337018542
Actual effort.
The 7 Koopalings not fucking clogging up the roster.
>>337018542
All characters from previous games, get rid of the coin items and return of a lot of other fun items (MK8 felt lacking), more courses than ever before. Mario Kart 8 shouldn't have the same or even less content than the DS game did (I say less since Mission mode was a thing). Also they should fucking fix Battle Mode, it was perfect in the older games.
>>337020774
I thought the Koopalings were a nice addition and there's far worse choices in MK8 in the roster than the Koopalings.
All I really want is my Petey back.
>>337018542
DLC needs to be free. The tracks at least.
>>337018542
No Baby Characters.
No kooplings.
Replace these with good characters.
Apart from that, just new tracks, the last Mario Kart was brilliant.
a mach rider stage
>>337018542
Blood.
>>337018542
I just want Bowser Jr. and Diddy in. Seriously, how the fuck could you forget to add the most famous vehicle user in the series and the character who had his own fucking racing game?
>>337019853
which is why Zelda and Animal Crossing are in there....
300ccnot even joking, i just wanna go fast damnit
I just want the third DLC pack.
WHERE THE FUCK IS IT NINTENDO!?
ASHLEY ASHLEY
ASHLEY!!!!!!!
>>337024991
They'll probably just port 8 to NX and release packs 3 & 4.
One pack will probably be Splatoon themed.
>>337018542
That's actually the best Roster I could reasonable imagine a mario kart game having. I would always add fawful, but I did say REASONABLE, after all.
Peach taking Rosalina along for a ride and then doing lewd things to her in her vehicle, ignoring the entire race, hiding out somewhere and basically overwhelming Rosalina until she's mindbroken.
>>337022024
R.O.B. would be cool to have again too.
>>337025413
>Splatoon and Pokemon add-ons are on-disc, along with the other two DLCs, in MK8 NX
>rebranded as Nintendo Kart
>>337019081
This and about 100% less babies
Tracks based off:
>Subcon
>Sarasaland
>Yoshi's Island Castles
>Painting-like level from NSMBU
Just spread around these gorgeous tracks to the lesser-used parts of the Mario 'verse.
>>337020774
No they aren't if anything it's the fucking babies and gold characters that are doing it. You only need baby Mario and maybe baby Luigi
>>337026286
The Koopalings probably prevented Bowser Jr from getting in, and the guy who spends most of his time nowadays in machines definitely deserved to get in more than the all the koopalings combined.
Pikachu
Baby Pikachu
Pichu
Shiny Golden Pichu
Scuttlebug
Same or better physics, and continued excellent track design. MK8 is a league above every other entry in the series for these. As a hardcore racing game fan, it's the only MK game I could really get into since MK64 in my youth. More 200cc goodness and more nuanced engine simulation, please!
They better be careful with the item balance, MK8 isn't perfect but it's actually enjoyable and not overpowered for either the leader or the pack. Keep coins, but remove them from item boxes.
More options (eg. number of laps), and give up on keeping out characters from other series, because they already did Link and the Animal Crossing characters.
>Cut the Koopalings
>cut all babies that aren't Mario or Luigi, there are significantly better options when it comes to superlightweights like E. Gadd, Kamek or someone from Paper Mario
>add Captain Syrup
>revive Paratroopa, Dry Bones and King Boo
>Inkling DLC
In the end I won't really care so long as Toadette is in the game. The Koopalings were a mistake though.
>>337027336
>cut the Koopalings
>force in Shittoon
Worst taste in the entire thread
>>337018542
It'd be cool if they threw in some Warioware characters and generally diversified roster.I also think, since they stuck Link and Villager and his Dog Friend (who I typically use), they should hide Captain Falcon in there as cool unlockable character for achieving some bizarre goal.
>>337027470
>"Let's keep the 7 throwaway bosses no one gave a shit about until Nintendo decided to force them over 1 or 2 characters from Nintendo's newest IP"
Racing on Uchin Underpass would be fun as fuck, especially if there was a Turf War in progress in the background.
![Sonic_&_All-Stars_Racing_Transformed_box_artwork[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/GmHjNvz.png "Sonic_&_All-Stars_Racing_Transformed_box_artwork[1].png")
Mario Kart 8 is great and I would only make a few changes to make it the perfect MK experience
>Better cast.
Babies are fine if they increase the roster size significantly but they make up too much of the MK8 roster
>Better Battle Mode.
MK8 is seriously the worst battle mode.
Just port the Double Dash maps and modes, they were perfect.
>Items need to be reworked
Coins only stack up to 5 instead of 10, remove 2 Coin item
Add the trap block item
Make bananas less common for people in 2nd through 4th place
BRING BACK SPECIAL ITEMS
Remove boomerang, it is seriously garbage
Let people pick up new items while they have a Piranha plant active
>>337028203
They should bring back an option for a double-dash racing style too.
>>337018542
Funky + Bowser Bike
Diddy too
At least should have had Baby Wario if they were going overboard with babies
I want Waluigi to be medium weight again.
>>337028638
Why is he even heavy in the first place?
>>337028694
He was in mid-heavy with Rosalina and Roy
>>337028694
Weight classes in Mario Kart are determined by height now, not mass.
Online Death Race
Dedicated battle courses
>>337027816
>wanting to cut 7 characters that all add weight-class variety for the sake of 2 you just happen to really like
ok
A Mode 7 course in tribute to the SNES version
Would everyone be okay with this roster, assuming the next game is on a handheld system?
>>337029147
As long as koopa trooper is in it then I don't mind.
>>337018542
a roster that isn't shit
>>337029147
Just do Superstar Baseball roster.
>>337022024
The Koopalings are all too similar
Honestly I think they're going to slowly phase out of Mario Kart and repurpose it to focus on Nintendo as a whole.
May not fully work out depending on whether or not companies like Gamefreak/TPC allow that kind of crossover, but the MK8 DLCs prove the concept to be reasonably possible with their EAD IPs.
>No babies/Koopalings/metals/Lakitu
>Old battle mode back
God the rooster was shit
Why is everyone against the Koopalings? I though everyone hated Bowser Jr. and wanted them back over him?
>>337029147
You could replace the Pinata guy with E. Gadd or Birdo and it'd be perfect.
>>337020774
the koopalings are the best thing. They're all part of the core game cast. Giving up Bowser Jr. for all of them is a worthy trade off.
The alt character versions are the problem.
>>337029546
What's wrong with Lakitu? And I like the Koopalings. At least keep Roy and Ludwig.
>>337025413
>Callie and Marie in MK8
I want it
>>337029637
Because people had an inflated sense of what the Koopalings were at one point. Now that they're back people realize there was never anything special or interesting about them in the first place.
>>337028694
He's a big guy
>>337029147
Replace Spike with Diddy or Birdo, then it's great
>>337029672
>Replace a heavy character with a light or medium character
Terrible idea.
>Giving up the kid who spends more time in a car than any other character and six other possible character slots for 7 throwback nobodies is a worthy trade.
Also, 'core game cast'? Kek
>>337029738
It just looks weird seeing him without his cloud. Also I hate his voice
>>337029871
I wanted one new character in each weight class.
Also, people actually like Birdo?
>>337029147
Needs Diddy, Birdo, and E. Gadd. Then it'd be perfect.
>>337029540
>Honestly I think they're going to slowly phase out of Mario Kart and repurpose it to focus on Nintendo as a whole.
I doubt it. Mario Kart's team has little interest in secondary/unpopular franchises. Note how even as far as Mario goes they quickly abandon old characters and prefer stuff like Baby and Metal Mario to them. When you look at the DLC characters, you get Zelda and Animal Crossing, two extremely popular franchises. The DLC tracks are a bit more variable, including Excite Bike and F-Zero, but I really doubt the Mario kart staff has any interest in being expect to include a bunch of obscure characters in their games.
>>337030045
She's better than generic green dinosaur 492
>>337026454
Baby Pikachu is Pichu
>>337029540
I'd be happy if it became Smash Kart so C Falcon can race once again
Keep the Koopalings, drop the alt characters versions and bring back Diddy, Jr, Petey, and King Boo.
Levitate battle mode to DD heights. So have actual staged for baloon and coin. Bring back bomb and shine sprite (I understand the concept of thise modes doesn't work with so many players but just make them 4 player max then). Another new battle mode would'nt hurt either.
>>337029903
The koopalings have more differences in design to bowser ( Jr did just take Bowser's baby design afterall), and they're all classic mario bosses with several appearances.
I'd prefer having all 8, but if 7 bowser kids is the max then Jr definitly isnt worth it against them. They fit in the slots fine if you avoidalt character versions, get rid of thise and there's room for all the other decent chatmracyers people want. Short of Link they're easilly the best newcomers to Mario Kart.
>>337029679
>the koopalings are the best thing. They're all part of the core game cast. Giving up Bowser Jr. for all of them is a worthy trade off.
The issue isn't "giving up Bowser Jr." It's giving up 7 other characters for them in the same game where we also lost people like Diddy and King Boo.
>>337031331
Yeah, no it isn't. Your knocking off an ACTUAL core Mario character for 7 crayon-colored bosses who are too alike to each other to be worth putting them in and no in-game personalities. Nice try.
>>337031343
take out babies and costumes for them.
>>337031510
Just as Bowser Jr had done to them. Turnabout is fair play.
I expect them to keep the anti-gravity in it, since otherwise they won't be able to have (most) MK8 tracks as retro tracks.
Have the main game be just Mario characters, and the potential DLC be crossovers with other Nintendo franchises, just like how it was done in MK8.
I don't really mind having Metal Mario and Pink Gold Peach, but it'd be better to instead have a Metal Mushroom item instead.
Either add battle-mode exclusive arenas (since normal tracks don't work for it), or just remove it altogether and have more racing tracks than the usual MK games. Don't half ass it like in MK8.
>>337018542
a fucking rainbow cup
and the return of the all cup tour.
>>337018542
>baby characters
>tanuki characters
>metal characters
>koopalings
I want them gone
also make every character equally shitty so I don't have to see 20 Roys
>>337031650
Holy shit, are you seriously still on about that? Are you autistic?
>>337031868
Don't shit on my nigga Baby Mario.
>>337031510
by that logic Jr's discualified for what he did to them and being a copy of Baby Bowser.
"Too alike to eac other" is a decent criticism but the'res also four plumbers and three princesses, not counting the babies and metals and dry bowser.
I's agree drop them in favor of more DK and non Mario characters but they easilly top this game's newcomers from Mario itself.
>>337031650
>>337032183
But Bowser Jr never did that to them. When Bowser Jr appeared it had been years since they had been used in any Mario game.
>>337018542
I loved mk8, only thing that woudlve made it perfect are Anti aliasing, a better roster, and real battle mode.
>>337032254
Heck, Mario Party had those multi colored "Koopa Kids" rather than just using the Koopalings.
>>337032183
It's not just apperance, it's niche. Bowser Junior is a prince-- the only prince in the series that occurs regularly, and Bowser's only son, and the only major tech user who regularly shows up. The koopalings always fight the same way, are grouped together, and occupy a niche that's essentially 'another one of Bowser's minions'.
>>337032379
Koopa Royalty isn't really that well explored in this series. I've never heard of people liking Jr because he's a prince, whereas being a princess or equivalent of one is brought up all the time for Peach and Rosalina.
He does make for a more distinctive boss do to tool using yes, but in Mario Kart this would just get brought up as a car or item everyone has acess to.
Unless they beought Supers from DD back, which is doubtful.
>>337033105
> you've never heard of
Well you're hearing it now. And it's definetly been brought up, from Smash Bros to Sluggers to Mario & Luigi
>>337025413
>>337025821
I just want my Metroid course and Samus Aran as a playable character. Captain Falcon too.
>>337018542
Waluigi gets reclassified as a Skinny weight character. This means that he can use heavy and lightweight karts, but not midweight karts. When using a heavy kart he counts as light, and when using a light he counts as heavy. This class could be expanded to include Iggy Koopa or say Lanky Kong.
A Fat Karter type is probably unnecessary, but could complement it. Thwimp for instance could be made into a karter.
>>337018542
shy
>>337035148
Actually scratch that. Just make Size and Weight differing classes.
Yoshi - Midsize Lightweight
Waluigi - Largesize Lightweight
Wario - Midsize Heavyweight
Donkey Kong - Largesize Midweight
and so on.
>Replace that purple star thing whatever the fuck it is with ROB
>make the kooplings into skins
>add funky kong
There. Perfect list
Shiny turquoise platinum baby tanooki mario and Sonic
Also Magikoopa
>>337035873
>make the kooplings into skins
Anyone who suggests this should be put into special education immediately.
>>337018542
>Remove the baby and metal characters. Replace them with E Gadd, Donkey Kong characters and/or WarioWare characters
>Since nearly all the retro courses have been used up, do a social media fan poll on which courses people want brought back for the next game so it can end up being all the good ones
>Make DLC packs again. Those were great
>Bring back proper battle mode
>No characters or courses from other franchises. That would get out of hand really fast
>Or at the very least, have them be different franchises and don't bring back anything from 8
>Don't make a retardedly high total coin count requirement for the final kart piece
>Remove getting coins from item blocks
>>337036682
Alright, I'll bite. Why?
>>337036934
>Putting distinct characters as "costumes" for another distinct character
Absolutely ridiculous. The fact that you don't like the Koopalings doesn't make them any less valid or distinct as characters.
>>337037143
I never said I disliked them m8. How would they be differentiated if they are all baby sized? Making them into skins would appease everyone without cutting any of them. The only Koopaling that would stay for sure is Wendy cause of muh female villain. How would you justify keeping the rest?
>>337018951
still ass ravaged about sm4sh huh
face it fe is the moneymaker and not the shit you wanted
>>337037679
>they are all baby sized
Morton and Roy are heavy, Iggy and Ludwig are medium. It's clear you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>337037997
>3 lightweights
>>337038110
Less than half isn't even close to "all".
>>337022776
Yeah the game needs to be free too.
oh wait
>>337029147
Add Diddy and E. Gadd
Remove Spike and Pianta.
>>337023650
>replace the koopalings
Why?
i want the item distribution to be changed. I'm Getting tired of the game giving me mushrooms
Funky Kong back.
>>337018542
Captain Falcon because his franchise is gone with 5-6 f-zero tracks
No more koopalings, babies or metals with the exception of baby mario, baby luigi and bowser jr
Diddy and Dixie kong
Petey piranha
More dlc
Being able to hold one item with you and one behind you
Straight bananas with super satisfying bowling sound effect when you force someone into them
More dlc
More good retro tracks.
That's about all i can think of
Just make is fucking "Nintendo Cart" at this point. Everyone creamed themselves over the DLC cause of all the non-mario shit in the game. I doubt only the biggest autists would care that the series is no longer Mario-themed only.
>>337038858
>Not knowing how to catch up with mushrooms
I know this is a casual racing game but at least take advantage of the shortcuts.
Eurobeat ost
>>337039142
>Dissuade any criticism to your statement by pre-emptively calling the opposition autistic
Classy.
>>337018542
Ridley
>>337038941
no
dixie/tiny/diddy/cranky over funky any day of the week please
Mario Kart is not fucking Smash. You can't just "make the Koopalings alts!" and expect them to be different from a character you actually fucking select on the roster. What the fuck does that even mean?
>>337039284
apsie-alert
>>337039306
Too big for kart
>>337038941
>wanting another funky bikers wii
You are mad.
>>337027816
>Let's keep the 7 throwaway bosses no one gave a shit about
Underage fucking detected.
>>337035873
That only works in something like smash where the characters they are skins of function identically. In Mario Kart all the racers have different stats. Even the slightest of differences makes them a different character. Your idea is just typical slot and character select screen autism. Basically the Dark Pit argument but in Mario Kart.
And I don't even like the Koopalings mind you.
Quality 42 character roster.
>Mario
>Luigi
>Yoshi
>Peach
>Daisy
>Rosalina
>Pauline
>Toad
>Bowser
>Wart
>Mouser
>Tryclyde
>Clawgrip
>Fryguy
>Birdo
>Tatanga
>Donkey Kong
>Diddy Kong
>Dixie Kong
>Funky Kong
>Wario
>Captain Syrup
>Magikoopa
>Koopa Troopa
>Goomba
>Blooper
>Boo
>Dry Bones
>Shy Guy
>Snifit
>Lakitu
>Hammer Bro
>Wiggler
>Monty Mole/Rocky Wrench
>Boom Boom
>Ludwig Von Koopa
>Roy Koopa
>Morton Koopa Jr.
>Iggy Koopa
>Lemmy Koopa
>Larry Koopa
>Wendy O. Koopa
Personally I thought the track design was a little weak in 8 overall, despite a few gems. That's something beyond roster that I'd like to see improved.
Also, actual battle mode with actual battle stadiums instead of the shit they pulled this time.
And if for some reason they add more babies, at least add this lil niggas.
>>337040291
There's no Bowser Jr. on that.
>>337040516
Yes, and?
>>337040516
Yeah, he said it was a quality roster.
>>337040547
Your list isn't quality if you can fit in 'Captain Syrup' and 'Clawgrip' and 'Tryclyde' but not the second most reoccuring villain in Mario.
Koopalings should've never gotten in in the first place, tbqh famicom.
Instead of Koopalings we could've had
>Jr
>Diddy (or Funky)
>(King) Boo
>Dry Bones
>E. Gadd
>Petey
>Captain Falcon
There, 7 characters near everyone would've preferred to the Koopalings.
>>337025413
Fuck that give me a Pikmin pack.
>>337040681
I prefer Roy over all of those
>>337040516
>>337040547
>>337040606
>>337040674
I'll bet you my left nut they were *THIS* close to phasing out Bowser Jr. completely in favor of the Koopalings (the little shit was absent from 3D Land, 3D World, Mario Kart 8, and only made a cameo in Dream Team) until Sakurai came along and made him forever-always-eternally relevant with Smash and amiibo. Now he's *suddenly* active again and making more appearances.
>>337039147
I do but everyone else gets them too and are able to take the sc and not much game changing moment if the person front and back get triple mushrooms and u get 1.
>>337024864
Which is fucking stupid, cuck.
That said, they should do Smash Kart for just this reason.
Maybe your wife will even let you play it while she gets railed by her bull
jk women are repulsed by you
The fact that we haven't seen Kamek or E. Gadd in a Kart game yet is a crime.
>>337040809
Pffft, hahahahaha. Check out the list of the games Bowser Jr.'s been in. He's been in multiple games every year since Sunshine, with more and more on average each year as time went on. He was never in danger of being phased out. I'll be taking that nut now.
>>337040882
The problem with egadd is he's such an obscure character and Nintendo probably thinks no ine wants to play as an old man over fursuit mario.
>>337040681
I'd prefer the Koopalings over all of those, especially fucking Captain Falcon.
>>337040789
>>337041145
That's nice, honey.
>>337027336
HOLY SHIT I NEVER REALIZED IT BEFORE, BUT YEAH! WHERE THE FUCK IS E. GADD?!
Also,More tracks, More Karts, more items.
bringing back the special item system (Maybe modified so you select your special item regardless of character, so you can get your preferred weight/Character. Waluigi 4 life.)
Lastly, I thought the kart customization in 7 was a neat idea, but it needs to be more developed.
I feel like special items should be for the handheld games and their smaller rosters while console ones should have huge rosters where specials wouldn't really work
>>337041236
>Have shit ideas
>Get told your ideas are shit
>"T-t-t-t-that's nice."
>>337041327
No, I was saying nobody gives a shit if you samepost what you prefer when most people aren't of your opinion.
>>337041418
I give a shit.
>>337041441
Well it's important to give a shit about yourself. I was talking about people other than you.
>>337041142
I wouldn't say he's that obscure, he's been around a long time and Dark Moon was surprisingly successful, but I guess at the end of the day most characters would be considered more obscure than Mario himself so Mario in different costumes gets priority..
>>337041542
I am people other than them. In all honesty I don't give a shit but you talk like a fag.
>>337041418
>I was saying nobody gives a shit if you samepost
wew lad
>when most people aren't of your opinion.
Do you have a single fact to back that up? Didn't think so.
>>337018542
a nep
>>337041793
Here's a fact: no one cares about the Koopalings except autistic fucks who watched the old Mario tv show.
>>337041589
I'm just saying he's obscure because i can only think of three games he's in.
Luigi's mansion
Luigi's mansion dark moon
Sunshine
>>337041779
>I don't give a shit except I really do.
Perfect MK10 roster coming in hot
>>337042009
I never watched that show and I care about them.
MY DICK
>>337042097
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>337042160
Replace the flying squirel with Birdo and yeah, there'd probably be no one who'd object to this.
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>>337042194
NO
>>337029631
kek'd at dry bowser
>>337042160
I'd main King Bob-omb.he somehow managed to steal the show in Paper Jam with only a few lines
>>337042202
Congrats. That doesn't mean they deserve seven spots in a Mario Kart game.
>>337042012
He's shown up in plenty of Mario spinoffs before, like the RPGs and Party games, and he got a Mario Maker costume.
https://youtu.be/PSKVEODERYU
>>337040329
>8's tracks are on the weak side
>>337042474
Excellent goalpost moving, but you're an idiot if you think that your concept of who "deserves" a spot means jack shit to anyone. We all know you're just pissy because they got in over the characters you wanted.
>>337042691
Yeah I said it, the fuck you gonna do?
>>337042704
I'm hardly the only one complaining that they got in at all, and for good reason. There's too many of them and not enough individual merit to put them in as anything but a big hoggish group. And no amount of cellphone sockpuppets are going to change that.
Any WarioWare character really. Some spin-offs kind of embrace the fact that Wario does have some relation to the WarioWare world, which makes it canon to a extent, like the Mario Kart arcade games having Diamond City. It makes me feel like any WW character might pop in right out of nowhere. So I don't have anything against any of them making it in.
If I were forced to take a pick on which one to be the only pick from the WarioWare franchise asides from Wario, it'd probably be Mona since she fits like a glove. Heck, the first game had her speeding while cops went after her and she tried to get away from them using freaking footballs and banana peels (!). She was also kind of second-in-command in some, if not most games right after Wario, alongside Jimmy T.
>>337042975
>I'm hardly the only one complaining that they got
>proceeds to complain about them being in
I see
>>337034140
It's actually a god damn shame that Falcon wasn't in one of the DLC packs.
2 Animal Crossing characters and Furry Peach, but no Captain Falcon? There are even multiple F-Zero themed tracks. It's bullshit to say the least.
>>337043142
I was thinking they could have done a Wario DLC.
>Biker Wario (heavy)
>Mona (medium)
>9-Volt (light)
>>337043256
Reading comprehension. I know you're upset, but read the entire post before typing a response.
>>337042975
>There's too many of them and not enough individual merit to put them in as anything but a big hoggish group.
Yet Petey Piranha, Captain Falcon, E. Gadd, King Boo, and Bowser Jr. do?
The Koopalings were popular and beloved before you were born, kid.
>>337043347
>There's too many of them and not enough individual merit to put them in as anything but a big hoggish group. And no amount of cellphone sockpuppets are going to change that.
Yep, complaining.
>>337043315
Biker wario skin.
Mona
9-volt
And the guy with the afro or 18-volt
>>337043273
I'd rather him not. He would look stupid, crammed into one of those tiny karts. Let the dead have their peace.
>>337043375
Think about it: you could put in any of those guys in without any of the others and it wouldn't piss off the collective fans of all five of those characters. The koopalings you do: you HAVE to put all of them in, or else koopaling fans aren't satistified.
Also, I'm pretty sure that, yes, all five of those have more individual merit than any one koopaling.
>>337043375
>borderline generic mid-bosses
>beloved
Souce?
They've been dead in the water and forgotten for ages until now.
>>337043315
I like the way you think.
>>337043458
>And the guy with the afro
That would be Jimmy T.
>>337043696
People were crying endlessly for them to come back before NSMBWii revived them. Did you just never notice any of that?
>>337043561
>all five of those have more individual merit than any one koopaling.
Really
>Petey Piranha, a one-off boss that was lucky enough to appear in a bunch of spinoffs
>Captain Falcon, not even a Mario character, which is not really a problem so much as the fact that he doesn't fit with anything else in the game at all
>E. Gadd, which I agree should be in but really is not significant in the slightest
>King Boo, basically the same situation as PP
Maybe Bowser Jr. would be okay if they actually made him to reflect the game he's known for.
Also
>Think about it: you could put in any of those guys in without any of the others and it wouldn't piss off the collective fans of all five of those characters. The koopalings you do: you HAVE to put all of them in, or else koopaling fans aren't satistified.
So what?
>>337043451
Y'all need some sylvan or some shit. First part of the sentence-- it's not hard to read.
>>337018542
More plumbers of color.
#mariokartsowhite
>>337044027
>>King Boo, basically the same situation as PP
Not to mention that he's literally an oversized boo with a crown. Even Petey is more unique than that. What a joke.
>>337044027
Mmhmm, versus what? There's Iggy! The guy who was... like, number five out of the seven-in-line boss fights? And Roy! Number 3 I think?
They're numbers in a row-- nothing any of them have done on their own has ever been significant.
And the so is simple: having seven slots for characters that similar is too much to be worth it.
>>337044242
He's hell of a lot more memorable than any one koopaling
>>337044373
They've been major bosses in at least three mario games, have unique designs and personalities ('cept maybe Larry), and have mass appeal. Your personal anger about them getting in over shit like King Boo does not change that.
>>337044242
>Primary Villain of his own spin of series
>Not unique
>>337044242
the problem is that everyone insists on using that design when Luigi's Mansion's King Boo actually looks like a unique character. I don't know why spinoffs don't use it
>>337042160
>King Bob-Omb
Hellz yeah. Consider using a Noki as a replacement for the squirrel.
>>337044482
>a bigger version of an enemy you see all the time is more memorable
Okay.
>>337044564
But Larry's the best one.
>>337044564
They do not have unique personalities. Until Paper Jam they never even talked. The cartoon gave them personalities and people loved them, but that's not what they're like in the game. They're just seven guys who happen to work for Bowser.
>>337044732
>a character has to have dialogue to have personality
I'm not sure I agree.
>>337044564
Petey was a major boss in more games than that, so how is he not more relevant than they are?
>>337043142
Pretty sure if they put WW characters the first one is going to be Ashley cuz lolibait mostly
Why did they stop DLC or updates period after the 2nd DLC pack? At least they could've released costumes for the rest of the amiibos that have come out.
>>337044891
>Seven characters that virtually never interact with anyone except Mario one-on-one in a single enclosed room can overcome not having dialouge
That's harder to agree with
>>337044963
I guess I should have said
>in major games, i.e. mainline
In which Petey only had one boss appearance. Super Princess Peach was a spinoff, and while I would like Nintendo to pay attention to the Mario RPGs when making games like this, the fact of the matter is that they just don't.
>>337044963
>>337044564
5 main, at least 2 spinoff
>>337042012
He was in superstar saga and was a main character in Partners in Time
>>337045159
That's nice, but Petey still only takes up one slot. Maybe the koopalings as whole group are more important than him, but none of them individually are.
>>337045115
Here is a drawing of Tom from the ever-popular cartoon "Tom and Jerry," although this is his shitty flash render from the newer series that CN had the gall to put out.
According to your argument (and let's ignore the rest of the series for a second for the sake of argument), this character has no personality. Clearly this is not the case--he has piercing yellow eyes and a devilish grin.
Do you disagree?
>>337042160
>>337042315
Replace the squirl with birdo and replace Dixie with Fawful, then we's have a PERFECT roster. But realisticly, just replace the squirl with Birdo
>>337045425
slots don't exist. there is no arbitrary number of characters they can put in.
>>337045425
So what? You seem to agree that their significance as a group exceeds that of Petey. Why does it matter that he's only one character versus the others being a group?
>>337042818
Call the Kong Mafia
>>337045538
Did you even read my post, nigga? Tom is an animated character with tons and tons of cartoons to his name. His personality isn't even that rich-- he wants to get Jerry and that's mostly about it. It's a false comparison that has no relevance to characters who don't have even a fraction of Tom's emotiveness or even motivation.
>>337045679
Do it then motherfucker
>>337045751
>Tom is an animated character with tons and tons of cartoons to his name.
Did you even read mine?
>and let's ignore the rest of the series for a second for the sake of argument
Look at the drawing and ignore that it's an established character from an established series. Do you believe that that drawing has no personality?
>>337045631
>>337045675
There is, in fact, limited dev resources that can be put into any one character roster. It's what Sakurai keeps trying to guilt trip everyone with whenever he appears in a smash character. It's not just a written down name-- the characters have to be animated, debugged, balanced for competitive play, sound mixed, and a bunch of other things to get in. So slots do in fact exist.
>people honestly arguing about characters being significant or having personality in fucking MARIO
>people honestly angry that the koopalings got in over whatever the fuck character they wanted and using personality as an argument
Dude
Seriously
Get the fuck over it
>>337045931
That has literally nothing to do with my post.
>>337045872
That drawing has more personality than I've ever seen any of the koopalings display, and it isn't even projecting that much to begin with. It's just smug and angry-- something I could attribute to every villain that's ever existed, so nothing unique enough for me to ever call attention to.
>>337034140
If Samus is playable she better just run the course in her fucking morph ball.
>>337018542
I wanna see Sonic in Mario Kart, not as a Mii costume.
>>337046118
>That drawing has more personality than I've ever seen any of the koopalings display
Maybe you should play more games with them.
>and it isn't even projecting that much to begin with
So yes, you do agree that image has personality (regardless of how much) and therefore your mentioning that they supposedly never talked until Paper Jam is meaningless because a character does not need dialogue to have personality.
>>337045774
They on they way famuel jackson
>>337046112
He's saying why it matters that seven characters, with all the dev work behind them, is a bigger drain than one
>>337028135
O shit waddup nice taste bro
>>337046323
So Petey should be in over the Koopalings because they are a bigger drain on resources? That doesn't sound right.
>>337046305
The only games that they've been in where they could emote are the most recent New Super Mario Bros games. All of which barely show anything other than those tiny little opening taunts before the boss fight. Is that what you're getting at? Because dude, that is not enough of a case to call a unique personality. Maybe unique from each other--barely--, but not unique out of all Mario characters
>>337045931
only difference in play is size. DLC allows them to make any number of characters
>people still bitching about Koopalings
Do you people even like Mario? I'd think the area bosses from the two most well-liked Mario games on /v/ wouldn't garner so much anger for appearing in a spinoff but lo and behold we have this thread.
>>337046023
>It's just a game bro lmao xD
People are allowed to like and dislike things. Not to mention being stuck woth a roster full of characters you dont like for half a console generation isn't exactly a good feeling.
>>337046412
The idea is that seven characters who each have their own fanbase will satisfy more people and be more deserving to get in than seven that only have one collective fan base.
>>337046506
>s that what you're getting at?
No, it's not. Clearly you will never understand what I am trying to communicate to you regardless of how many times I try so let's just say you're right and the Koopalings don't matter and don't deserve to be in MK or whatever.
>>337046412
Not like they haven't been doing that already.
Mario Kart 8 was pretty perfect.
But we need arenas back for the battle modes.
Maybe more fun battle modes.
And I really don't have a problem with all the Koopalings but they should just have handled them like Yoshis recolor (but still with different weight classes) and shouldn't take up half the roster.
>>337046517
Even that has a limit, though. If it weren't you could have as many characters as you want in Smash bros. Plus there's clearly some characters who a priority of getting in over others.
>>337046678
each Koopaling has their own fanbase and thats the reason why some people would be mad if some got in but not their favorite
>>337046567
>People are allowed to like and dislike things.
Can you cite where I said this?
Because I didn't. However, you people are really grasping at straws.
>>337046682
Well, clearly I won't. But it wasn't for lack of effort.
>>337046678
Are you stupid? There are plenty of people that like some of the koopalings but not others.
>>337046829
But are they as significant as the individual fanbases of seven non-collective characters? I don't think so. It'd depend on who you had to replace them with, but they are clearly meant to be a group over being individuals.
>>337046776
Smash takes way more effort and time then a character with premade stats that requires far less animations and voice clips
>>337018542
swap bab loogie for bab pichi and swap lubed-up for another heavyweight female, Honey Queen or Pauline
Just want to point this out, but Mario & Sonic at the Rio Olympics does a compromise by only having Ludwig, Wendy, Larry, and Roy playable. Like a "Best of" the Koopalings selection, so you get your Koopalings, not all of them that they consume a large portion of the roster, but enough to satisfy most fans.
Paper Jam did the same thing were those four got the most screentime whereas Iggy, Lemmy, and Morton got pushed aside.
It's likely from now on that if they can't use all of the Koopalings, those four will be the ones they'll prioritize using.
>>337046968
And yet we've never seen them apart until extremely recently, and even than that was still four characters. That's because if you don't put all of them in you risk excluding them. Many people only care about one or two kooplings, but if you don't put them all in you not only miss the point of the Koopalings but also risk that more and more people will lose their favorite.
>>337046875
More like for lack of choosing to see another way of thinking. You're right, they don't have a lot of personality, and really, the vast majority of the Mario cast does not have much either (and Miyamoto gets angry when they have too much, i.e. Rosie). But personality flows through in a lot of different things, and dialogue is only one way, and doesn't have to be a way either in a medium like this. If you can look at a drawing of Tom and detect personality, but look at a drawing of a Koopaling and not see anything, then all you're doing is being stubborn.
More levels based on shit from actual games, like Tick Tock Clock
Maybe even something from an RPG
>>337047224
>Best of
>Includes Wendy and Ludwig, the two worst ones
>>337047264
And what's the issue with including all of them?
>>337047028
But it still takes effort, and that effort isn't unlimited.
>>337047224
>>337047338
This shit right here is why that strategy won't work. I guarantee you that people will start to bitch as soon as they do it again.
>>337047374
It's seven characters worth of development, which is a lot to ask for games that typically have rosters of 14-30 characters.
>>337047275
This.
I'm kind of mad at MK8 for taking away almost everything that made Tick Tock Clock the track in MKDS resemble Tick Tock Clock the level in SM64.
>>337047582
So
What
If they don't use the development time for those characters, they'll use it for seven other characters. Again, what is the issue?
>>337046548
Gamecube children mad that Nintnedo acknowledges games from before they were born.
You can see this rarely in other threads, like how there's a rare one or two who are upset that Marin from Link's Awakening will be in Hyrule Warriors, instead of forgetable 3D Zelda NPC #29.
>>337047224
kinda strange considering Iggy's popularity
>>337047681
But that's the point-- those seven other characters are seven individuals, not a group of seven. Granted, that's assuming Nintendo wouldn't replace them with Babies or metal reskins or something, but if had been characters like Diddy Kong, Bowser Jr., Birdo, King Boo, Petey, E. Gadd, or King Bombom that's a more efficent use of your roster.
>>337047728
I used to like Iggy but something about his new design bugs me. I think it might be the green. His older color palette was so much more pleasing.
