Thoughts? Expectations? Will it reach KH2:FM levels, or be another BBS/DDD? Better or worse than XV?
Or heck, KH thread in general
>>336981405
Fuck, I dunno man.
I feel like the series completely went to shit after 358/2 Days, which was arguably its peak in both gameplay and story.
I'm not holding out much hope for this game to be good.
>>336981405
Fuck you, BBS was the best in the series. DDD was shit, but don't think that press triangle to win was better than the best game.
It looks like it'll be fun as fuck, if it's as fun as 2FM than that's great, but BBS and DDD were both excellent so I'd settle for that.
>>336981607
>358/2 Days
>arguably its peak in both gameplay and story
>>336981717
>Infinite i-frames, no proper hitstun, innane grinding for abilities, recycled boss fights, broken abilities that near require you to abuse a single command to reliably fight some of the secret bosses
BBS was ass
>>336981717
BBS was the epitome of press triangle to win, applying it to KH2 is a meme
I cant wait for the 20 minute unskippable info dump cutscene at the beginning.
An ending where it's open to another sequel
One of my favorite things about KH games are the ridiculous marathon styled final boss fights. Both one and two's final boss segments take like an hour the first go around, which makes the ending oh so satisfying. DDD has a shit ton, too
Being the finale, and the plot revolving around 13 'darknesses', if we don't have like 20 final bosses I'm going to be pissed
Haven't played a KH game since KH2 about like 7 years ago. Someone please explain the plot between that and 3
>>336983457
I'm not explaining 4 games worth of plot to you
It's got Flowmotion, I'm sold. We already know they're going for a KH1/KH2 gameplay style, hopefully the Osaka team nails it for those who love it.
>>336984087
Do we know what they're replacing forms with?
I'm not sure if I liked KH2's forms, and BBS's command styles better
>>336981717
But BBS is literally press triangle to win while it's just a retarded meme for KH2
>>336982393
Cutscenes have skippable in every game since since Final Mix.
>>336983457
>Sora and Riku had to become true Keyblade Masters by saving worlds trapped in dreams
>Sora failed because the badguys tried to inception him and shit
>Riku passed because he saved Sora from becoming the darkness
>now there's a bunch of people who are also Sora
>and a bunch of people who are also Ansem/Xemnas who is actually called Xehanort
>the people who are Sora and the people who are Xehanort are going to fight
>so Sora's off training by himself again so he can save everyone
>also not-Star Wars prequel happened like ten years before KH1
>anime girl not-Mace Windu is not dead but instead trapped in the darkness
>Ansem/Xemnas were not-Anakin's Heartless/Nobody and now Vader's back baby
>>336984170
We don't, though I personally think attraction flow might be what's replacing them, however there's a chance forms might come back.
I wished the dream eaters come back. They had a lot potential. The only problems they had were not leveling up from exp and no control over ther AI, which could easily been fix.
>>336984730
They were cute as fuck. I hope if we get another handheld title they return.
>>336983457
Old dark skinned keyblade wielder decides the balance between light and dark is fucked and decides he's going to balance it himself.
The only way to do that is kingdom hearts. But not those naturally occurring ones, like in the end of 1, nor the artificial ones like in 2. He needs pure light and darkness to clash to make a big enough kingdom hearts.
At first he takes the Roxas lookalike Ventus as an apprentice and splits him into an evil and good form, and makes them fight. The good one loses, but before dying a young Sora lends him his heart. Ventus fights his evil half later, which has taken the form of Sora because of the heart link. The two clash and make an incomplete version of the original keyblade, the X-blade. X being the greek letter pronounced as either chi or key.
Xehanort gets his ass kicked, so he transfers his heart into Terra's body, AKA the dumbest KH original character, and Ventus' friend. Aqua, the third of the trio, stops Xehanort from plunging Terra;'s body into the darkness, at the cost of being trapped in the Realm of Darkness.
Terra/Xehanort, now with amnesia, hires the people who's nobodies become the Organization XIII. He messes with darkness and becomes a heartless and a nobody, ala KH 1 & 2.
>>336981405
I'm going into KH3 with "surprise me" googles on. Nomura can do anything he wants, I just want it to be good.
>>336981717
Fuck what anyone says I'm sad reaction commands are gone. Those things were cool as hell and mad for great fancy finishes to bosses.
>>336985464
Because Ventus got a part of Sora's heart in him, when it returned to Sora after Ventus' defeat, a fragment of Ventus's heart went into Sora. That's why his nobody looks like Ventus, and why he can wield the keyblade despite not going through the keyblade ceremony.
Meanwhile, during chain of memories, we find out Org XIII made a clone of Sora with the appearance of Kairi out of the memories of Sora, called Xion. Xion can wield the keyblade, and slowly absorbs Roxas before she realizes and sacrifices herself. Roxas absorbs her, getting the memories he should of had as Sora's nobody, and Xion's keyblade, which is why he can summon two. Her death also causes everyone to forget she existed.
After the end of 2 but before DDD, Donald and Goofie go inside a digital version of Jiminy's Journal from the events from 1 and cure a bug,
DDD involves Sora and Riku going through the memories of worlds, to unlock the keyblade master ability of diving into anyone's dreams at will. After bullshit, it's revealed Xehanort is going to make the real Xblade by clashing 13 darknesses and 7 lights; the org xiii was supposed to be the 13, but Sora killed half of them. The new plan is to infuse the surviving members with Xehanort's heart, use his heartless and nobody (who have been resurrected) and an unwilling Sora for the dark side. Riku saves Sora and passes the mark of mastery, while Sora doesn't.
Oh, and Lea, Axel's non-nobody form, can use a keyblade and Kairi's getting training.
>>336986371
Just want to throw in that in Re:Coded Maleficent and Pete are in search of the Book of Prophecies which can tell the future and at the end Mickey goes to Yen Sid who tells him that Master Xehanort has been revived and asks Mickey to get Sora and Riku so they can take the Mark of Mastery, leading into DDD
>>336986928
Coded was not worth it for that tidbit which hasn't effected the plot since its introduction. I also left out the time travel, if anyone cares to explain that.
>>336987073
Re:Coded was more relevant than Days even with only that tidbit of information, gameplay was also better. Time travel is very simple and laid out plainly in DDD. https://youtu.be/oKto_C2vjjw starting from 5:00
But what the fuck is kingdom hearts?
>>336987073
Pretty sure the time travel is only of real use in the world of dreams, because otherwise it can only be used to visit past and future incarnations of yourself and it can only be used to convey information. In the world of dreams though because in a way it's all brainwaves and shit anyways, multiple instances can be in the same place.
>>336987523
I KNOW NOW
>>336988354
KINGDOM HEARTS IS NOT DARKNESS BUT LIGHT
>>336989134
THAT'S NOT HOW IT GOES
>>336985464
>>336986371
>>336986928
Jesus Christ. Does it come off like a cheap fanfiction like it sounds or do they at least make it work well?
>>336990426
Every fantasy plot is "cheap fanfiction", family.
>>336990426
It's cheap in that there's really not a lot of set rules in KHs. There are some things established, but largely the 'light' and 'darkness' and 'hearts' can be written to do whatever is convenient for the writer. Which means that any new game can just turn things around on a whim
The stuff involving heartless and nobodies is probably the most well structured lore. Everything else is up in the air
>>336990426
Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
DDD is the dumbest, but it's kind of on purpose because it's in a dream world and shit.
>>336989358
ITS BEEN LIKE 5 YEARS ANON
>>336981405
We'll be dead before this game comes out. Who cares?
A moment of silence for my phat backwards compatible PS3 that just died an hour ago while playing KH2FM
>>336983270
I feel you. I can't follow KH's modern plot for shit, but if it can justify an assload of forms for Xemhamnortanas, leader of Organization (insert 2018 Super Bowl number here), then I'm cool with it.
OPEN YOUR HEART TO DARKNESS
>>336991651
KH2:FM was good because of the huge and varied postgame content. Helped that the org XIII had enough personality and theming to make them into a bunch of great and varied boss fights
I have a feeling that KHIII isn't going to be able to match that sort of thing
>>336991890
KH2 FM was good because it had solid mechanics that complemented each other, your entire moveset was useful and because bosses were generally well designed. It doesn't matter how varied the bosses are if the core mechanics aren't right (and the most gimmicky fights were without exception the worst ones in KH2).
>>336981405
idk i'm still playing Kingdom Hearts X on my phone. Just got my Judy Hopps costume without spending a goddamn dime, motherfuckers.
>>336995204
I wish that game was fun. Dropped it about level 30 when I realized that the rest of the game is just a grind.
>>336984170
Keyblade transformations maybe. Kinda sucks, because I remember going crazy over drive forms when I was younger. Almost wouldn't feel right without it.
>>336981607
>358/2 Days, which was arguably its peak in both gameplay and story.
Stale bait
>>336981717
>the game that improved on BbS's poor balancing and slow, landlocked combat with overly-long command animations
>somehow worse
BbSfags everyone
>press triangle to win
Stale meme
>>336983457
>spoonfeed me five RPGs' worth of story, world-building and lore concepts!
Fucking leave
>>336995527
Idk. It's a fun diversion while I'm at work. I've always had a strange affinity for grinding and watching my character get more and more powerful. I've played literally every single day since it launched, too.
I find it fun. And playing with my friends is pretty damn fun too. Competing to get the strongest medal sets is a blast.
>>336990784
>not a lot of set rules in KHs
pff
>but largely the 'light' and 'darkness' and 'hearts' can be written to do whatever is convenient for the writer
Pffffaha
>Everything else is up in the air
Nigga if this were even remotely true the fanbase wouldn't be able to make theories and at times straight-up guess what kind of tweeeest Nomura was gonna pull, 'cause it's like 90% heart stuff
>>336990784
>The stuff involving heartless and nobodies is probably the most well structured lore.
Not anymore.
>Its been heavily implied that Terranort created the heartless (hence why you face against unverse instead in BBS)
>There are heartless in KH Unchained Chi which takes place before Terranort created heartless
Incontinuity out the ass.
>>336996546
Time travel son, if that were even true.
In general though plot holes from previous games get answered in the next installment.
Here's hoping 3 seals them all up.
>>336996546
Isn't it just that there was no Heartless outbreak at the time in BBS? I mean Hunter In The Dark or whatever in BBSFM was a Heartless.
>>336996546
>Its been heavily implied that Terranort created the heartless (hence why you face against unverse instead in BBS)
Emblems
Purebloods already existed but the walls around the worlds kept them out mostly. Xehanort was able to summon Neoshadows while training Ven and Aqua enters the Realm of Darkness, encountering many Heartless.
>There are heartless in KH Unchained Chi which takes place before Terranort created heartless
It's not outright stated by it's implied by another reveal thatthey are projections made from the Book of Prophecies
Also, they could beillusions masking wielders from opposing Unions a la the "Invisible" fight in Days
>>336995964
What does it even play like? I was thinking about downloading it but the artstyle is kind of a turn off since it seems so cutesy.
>>336996819
Play it and find out
>>336981405
You seem to imply the second best game, BBS, was somehow bad. That is wrong.
>>336996819
You literally just swipe your finger across the screen repeatedly.
BRING BACK TWEWY
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>>336996698
No, because then introducing the unverse and pinning the unverse on Vanitas's doing wouldn't have made any sense.
Also, I could argue that that fight took place after Terranort's creation of the heartless. It's been confirmed that time goes by differently in The Realm of Darkness afterall.
>>336996819
the artstyle seems like a more "realistic" Theatrythm.
The combat system gives you a meter that you build, and using that meter, you can either use skills or attack normally. it sort of works in a similar fashion to the GBA game. There's a fair amount of strategy in the combat. The "exploration" gameplay is nothing to write home about though.
The events have you doing specific tasks, like taking down tough bosses or completing missions in a certain way.
>>336997014
>No, because then introducing the unverse and pinning the unverse on Vanitas's doing wouldn't have made any sense.
How?
>>336981405
Any expectations are long gone
Specificallyholiday 2018
>>336997158
>There's a fair amount of strategy in the combat
No there isn't. The combat is shallow as fuck.
>>336996936
They did bring back TWEWY. And it's a standard costume- not paid!
>>336987485
Started playing Re:Coded a few days ago and it truly is way better than Days (which I enjoyed it a lot)
>Objective-based instead of mission based
>Dat level up system/matrix
>Dat gameplay variety
Plays great on the 3DS.
>>336997352
You say that based on hitting level 30? Then you miss out on the raid bosses and Guilt system.
>>336997352
Try getting to the actual hard part and say that again
>>336996792
Gee, how fucking convenient. Nomura is a hack. He better not pull shit like this in KH3.
>Xehanort was able to summon Neoshadows while training Ven and Aqua enters the Realm of Darkness, encountering many Heartless.
What?
>>336997371
LITERALLY THE ONLY REASON I GOT ON THE APP
ITS NOT ENOUGH
I WANT A TWEWY BOSSFIGHT
ANYTHING
FUCKING ANYTHING PLEASE SQUEENIX
>>336984170
They've shown off Keyblade transformations so I bet it's those since they went heavy with it when you fought Terra in 2FM.
>>336997493
I say that based on getting to 140 or so. There is no depth to the game: it's all about grinding and how good your medals are. This garbage is barely a game.
>>336997547
Her cat has a costume too!
>>336997178
Just an unnecessary plot point. But then again, they did add in dream eaters for 3D, so they're not unfamiliar to unnecessary plot points.
>>336997014
You are saying the game doesn't make sense because of something that is not confirmed and that, in and of itself, doesn't make sense.
My KH2.5 limited edition is still sealed in plastic. I need to get to that one day.
>>336996936
Keep in mind they said they'd see each other again. I'm expecting it in KH3 to be perfectly honest, especially after all that Shiki stuff with Riku.
>Sora becomes a Player
>Neku becomes a partner for the world.
>Banter with Joshua and Neku.
Just imagine how the Keyblade and outfit would look too.
>>336997512
>how fucking convenient
Which part? The part that was prefaced by information in KH1, or the part that was prefaced by the explanation of a major lore item in the beginning of χ[chi]?
>What?
Did you not play BbS?
>>336997684
It's not unnecessary. They couldn't have Heartless in the worlds during BbS.
>>336997512
You are getting mad because your shit theory is disproved by the first game's ansem reports
>>336991053
F
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>>336997867
>>336997867
Naw, I did, it's just that you didn't put a comma after Ven so it just read like a run-on sentence to me.
Anyway, when did he train neo-shadows with Ven?
>>336995204
>>336998153
He was using them to make Ventus fight and become stronger, so that he could be Xehanort's new vessel.
But Ventus a shit so he came up with a different plan
>>336997884
Book of prophecy wasn't mentioned in the first game, I'm pretty sure Xehanort didn't summon neo-shadows on Ven, and time moves differently in the RoD so those events could've happened after she arrived.
>>336998234
I don't think those medals are actually any good in the long run honestly, neither that one or the Judy Hopps medal.
>>336998413
Except nobody cares what you're "pretty sure" about when the game itself shows it you dumb fuck
>>336998242
Must be a FM cutscene because I don't remember this at all.
>>336998569
It wasn't, you're just retarded.
>>336998530
Show me the cutscene then faggot.
>>336981405
anyone care to give me the gist of what happened in DDD and CoM? my 3ds is bricked and Chain of Memories is just frustrating to play
>>336998682
>Chain of Memories is just frustrating to play
git gud shitter
>>336998619
Kill yourself.
>>336998748
feck off m8 proud mode is hell in that game
>>336998749
Not that guy, you should take your own advice retard.
>>336998413
>time moves different in the RoD
If you bothered to read the goddamn reports you would know that Terra-Xehanort discovered Pureblood Heartless in the basement of the castle.
He created Emblems with his research. It's right fucking there 14 goddamn years ago in KH1.
>>336998569
The flashback of Ventus's training is in vanilla.
Here is it you dumb fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ad3IAzF0M
29:45
I want Star Wars and Marvel in this game.
>>336998851
Not that guy, but you should probably slit your throat.
It's a fucking kids game, being hostile for no reason about it is fucking stupid.
>osaka team
get ready for shit bosses and useless gimmicks.
>>336998841
>playing the inferior remake
>thinking it's hard
It isn't, you just suck at it.
>>336999064
of course i suck at it, i'm not having fun shuffling through cards barely doing any damage on the lightning bitch
I did proud on BBS just fine with all the characters but this shit just ain't worth it
>>336999196
>shuffling through cards
You should never do that. You should set up your deck so that you can just triangle through every fight. As I said, git gud.
>>336999290
>spamming Sleights
git gud
>>336999290
but i always end up running out of good cards halfway through the fight
don't tell me i seriously have to farm in this game
>>336999361
>literally can't be broken by regular enemies and some bosses
>even the bosses who do use sleights are unlikely to break high level sleights
>most efficient way of dealing damage
There is literally no reason not to spam sleights. I've completed the original at least 20 times (including a number of different challenge runs with some pretty absurd restrictions) and the remake about 4 or 5 times and dumping all your points into CP and spamming sleights is easily the best way to beat most fights.
>>336999367
You don't. If you've been leveling HP instead of CP you just fucked up.
>>336999196
>>336999367
>not having all 0 cards
Do you guys even know how to play the game?
>>336999552
>If you've been leveling HP instead of CP you just fucked up.
and if i've been balancing it out by alternating between them?
>>336999196
>shuffling through cards barely doing any damage
You're only supposed to shuffle back for your 0 cards at most. The main setup should be two or three full Keyblade combos then a -ga magic(I prefer Thundaga), then a Curaga, and then any 0 Keyblades you have(Or whatever costs the least for 0 cards). The only sleights I ever use are Thundaga and Curaga. Ideally you want to waste your Thundaga first, then once you reload the first time and you get to Thundara and Thunder you want to use them as sleight fodder to break combos rather than going all the way back to your 0s or using them alone.
Boss cards are also a must, Jafar and Maleficent are your staples(Make sure you always use Maleficent on the first turn since it's the best time to do it due to the effect) and then Jafar right after. Once you get access to Laxeus you can pitch Maleficent if you want since warping enemies is basically the best thing you can do.
That's how I've run through proud on both CoM and Re:CoM, there's pretty much no difficulty outside of the game giving you the middle finger on card drops, which Re:CoM loved to do.
>>336985464
>But not those naturally occurring ones, like in the end of 1,
I was told that it was also Artificial, being the hearts of the world and all that
>>336999723
Then you're not fucked but you won't be able to press triangle to win and may have to reload manually every once in a while instead of using potions and shit. Spending any points in HP is a mistake though since 0 cards and sleights are your best defense and those require a lot of CP.
