Will it be good?
24 hours until stellaris release!
>>336919578
pls preorder.
>>336919578
Hope so
I'm only wondering, can you create civilisation and keep them in ''storage'' or share them around?
I want to make a game with the Zerg vs the Tau vs the Bene Gesserit vs The Empire. etc.
Reminder that region locked keys can be bought for as low as 15$ with a free VPN
Reminder that paradox does not deserve your money
>>336919720
You can store them. I'm not sure about the sharing thing though I'd assume it would be a simple file transfer to share them.
>>336919720
Yes you can create many custom races and put them all together into your game.
>53 metascore
PARADOX IS FINISHED
>>336919778
I bought my key on GMG for 30 canadian funbucks. It's a weird feeling to pay reasonable prices for videogames for me
So basically this game is whatSpore's space stageshould have been, right?
I sure hope so. I'm ready to roll
>>336919578
Never heard of it. What's it about, what do you do?
>>336919778
>risking a Steam ban
Why not just pirate it if you're willing to go so far?
>>336919927
The real draw was to store them, but >>336919905 confirmed, so i'm happy. I'll probably do theme games like all WH40K race game, then Dune, Then SC, Then LoGH, Then Star Wars and once i got 50 or so just do FFA between the different choices
>>336920027
Obviously any sane person uses one steam account per fake-country
I've got my native main steam account, one russian steam account, one brazil steam account
And for the faggots that don't know
http://stellarisspeciesgen.com
>>336919708
I just pre-ordered 15 Stellaris'
Who is going to match me?
>>336919708
I can't believe that I didn't put it together sooner. You're that autist relentlessly shitposting in /gsg/ that this game shouldn't be discussed there despite it having plenty of GS elements.
>>336919578
give me 1 reasons not to pirate it since one continues multiplayer season wont be possible
>inb4: Muh Moral
>>336920117
I guess you could do that, but they can still connect them via IP unless you use your VPN all the time when you are logged onto the account.
>>336920167
Save the game and keep playing on a later date? What's the problem. ANd if you wanna pirate just pirate the game don't look for excuses, just do it
>>336920137
That's funny, I was just gifted a Stellaris copy from this dude who bought like 15 of them.right?
23 hours to go!
>>336920118
Tau aren,t really xenophile. They are less xenophobes than everyone else, but only true tau can access to power n shit. I'd have given the Tau Engineering or Materialist, since they aren't affected/don't know about the Warp
>>336919578
I feel like i need to try it before deciding if i should buy since i don't play this kind of games that often.
>>336919578
Can't wait to rev up the slave pits desu. Give my empire a name and a species /v/. I'm thinking either slug or fungal.
>>336919578
If only Kirches were here...
Who has the list of all the faction portraits?
Is there no regular human male?
I dunnow why dont you fags convince me to buy it
>>336920261
jeh but try 2 get the same 30 ppl at the same time to play
miss one game season and a fucker enslaves yo nice despotic empire with free elections ´n shit
>>336920373
Forgot to post pic.
>>336920427
of course there is you cuck
>>336920373
After the first game as the Humans, i'm goign for Myconids, slave master fungus people.
>>336919928
give me a source familam
so it will unlock everywhere at the same time and Europeons are getting shafted ?
>>336920469
There's hotjoin. Or don't play with 30 people. Or play with 30 people coordinated in a Forum. It's just that type of game man
>>336920001
r8 pls
>>336920427
Look for "Scott Manley" on YouTube.
In his first video he's doing a let's play and spends time in the faction creator mode.
It's an enormous variety, I was very impressed by that.
>>336920469
You could just play with less people. Just because it supports 32 players doesn't mean you MUST have that many. Why would you want to PUG for a game like this anyhow?
>>336920683
I just remember an image floating around /v/ that had them all shown
>>336919578
>24
>:^)
I really want to play a lotgh-inspired empire
But I'm worried that the game's canon clashes with lotgh canon and just ruins the entire thing
>>336920784
Devs said it isn't unlocking until 6pm GMT.
>>336920784
It's not unlocking at 00.00 though. They're doing a release stream tomorrow, so it should release around 7pm tomorrow
>>336920860
Just wait for the mod. Im sure there's gonna be one
>>336920784
That's just not accurate.
Release is late afternoon CEST.
there is no limited time? Like game ends after 500 years or something.
And can you switch off end game scenarios?
just endlessly play with whatever empires and such. Become a fallen empire yourself while new still popping up
>>336920642
>Hotjoin
christ,why would you even want to build a empire then
>40 dollars
Yeah nah fuck Valve
Is it on gog tho?
>>336921016
I'm not sure you can disable game ending stuff, but they don't just end the game when they happen, you can fight them off. There's no set time limit.
>>336920953
Lotgh is pretty fucking niche though
I mean 40k and Star Trek / Wars mods are inevitable, but niche anime? Eh
>>336920952
>be european dev
>fuck over european customers
I bet Somalia gets a headstart
>>336919578
>Paradox
>Swedish game
>Known for their DLC policy
Nah it will suck donkey dicks
>>336921049
It's just a fucking feature you spastic. Jesus just disable it. Its not my fault you people can't coordinate with a few friends to have regular online games.
What the fuck is this garbage and why does it almost like a modern version of Star Control 2?
>>336920642
Sold
>>336921186
>you can fight them off. There's no set time limit.
niiiiice
>>336921202
No one gets a head start, moron. It releases everywhere at the same time.
>>336921305
technically americans get a headstart since it releases in the morning there
>>336921353
technically Americans have to work in the morning to pay off their debt
>>336921353
But that's just because they live back in time. :^)
>>336919936
I hope so. The spore space stage was actually pretty fun (best part of the game for sure), if not a bit bare-bones.
>tfw my laptop is from 2008 and can no longer play any recent releases.
I guess I had to upgrade at some point...
Any suggestions?
>>336921353
Long time 'til then, what are the odds of making it that long before some firearm goes off?
>>336921438
Get a desktop pc
i read about this yesterday
seems like one of the more promising games in recent memory
has anyone tried a demo/beta/alpha/leak?
>>336921438
this game doesn't seem to be this heavy on system requirements
>>336921438
It's Paradicks studioshit, my 3 gb RAM can still run EU4 at decent speed.
>>336921524
There are more hours of gameplay of it on youtube than there are hours left until release, have at it.
>>336921438
logical increments
>>336921573
>Looking up a game before playing it
top jej
Who /going in blind/ here?
>>336919778
I don't understand how people can be this dumb, if everybody pirated there would be no paradox games in the first place.
>>336921631
people with too much free time and spare income
>>336921676
Only reddit buys paradox games after the CK2 and EU4 shitfests
>>336919708
Already did senpai.
Anyone else gonna made one long playthrough going all the way from CK2 to Stellaris with the same empire?
>>336921759
if the games are shit why do you play them?
>>336921762
>not playing reptilian ayylmaos
ayy
>>336921759
ButI liked CK2
>>336921868
because there are no others, Paradox has a literal monopoly on GS
So are they launching this thing at Midnight GMT, or Midnight US East Coast? Or will they do the "We are going to be working all day fixing this" thing, and release it at 8 AM Stockholm time?
Hey I'm gonna pirate this
How mad does that make you?
>>336921430
I preferred the creature stage, I was kind of sick of the game by the time I got to the space stage.
>>336921970
>you claim Paradox is the only company making GS games
>you claim to like GS games
>you claim to dislike Paradox games
Uhh...
>>336921970
Its only a monopoly because no other development studio has figured out how to do it better.
>>336921932
I liked it too before it became obvious they were treating it as a cashgrab and had no intention of fixing the issues they introduced with their shit DLC
>>336919578
i heard a rumor that slaves cannot revolt in this game? is this true? sounds like slaves are ip if this is true
>>336922007
Hope you have fun with it either way dude
>>336921970
>Paradox has a literal monopoly on GS
top pleb
>>336919928
>metacritic
>>336922007
Why would it make me mad?
>>336921762
Why are these aliens so ugly?
>>336921762
thanks mang.
>>336922007
It makes me really hot anon.
In all seriousness I'm glad people will pirate even If I don't, I used to do it all the time.
It's a noble tradition.
>>336922124
Thanks bro
>>336921762
>tfw I missed the platypus portrait thing
>>336921353
good
We can pirate it here in europe before game launches
>>336921981
9th May 18:00 GMT
http://steamcommunity.com/app/281990/discussions/0/357285562487980826/
>>336922130
?
If you're referring to Ageod they belong to Paradox as well
>>336922071
>you can't be critical of the product a single company provides because it's the only company providing it
>>336921762
I dont see a human male.
>>336921981
It comes out at like 6pm Cest
>>336919928
bugger off autist
>>336922118
It's just a bug in the pre-release version
>>336922290
*CEST
I'm swedish and I have no intention of paying for this game after I spent actual money on EU4 right before the game went down in fucking flames with the lead designer saying, and I quote, "I don't give a fuck"
>>336922118
>>336922338
Slaves can't revolt. Devs are open to change if the community wants it however
>>336922134
he's a troll, there are no reviews yet
my bet is on a 90 > score
>>336922312
>Space game with many different and cool ayys
>Wanting to play as the boring humans
Why
>Devs need sleep too
>Release the game when the work day is over
Faggots, release it when your work day starts so you can start fixing problems as soon as the community finds them, because your products always have bugs on release.
>>336922118
They can't revolt in the release build but if you make them unhappy you'll still get less resources so it's not a complete fuck up
>>336922418
So what happened with that? Why shouldn't I pay for the game?
>sweden
>>336922418
Expound.
>>336922425
No, it's literally broken
Is this game as moddable as EU/HoI etc.?
>>336922479
Because I want to create the imperium of man.
Where do you get those more details Empire previews?
>>336922330
What's with that BS release time, its coming out around 6 PM CEST on the 9th.
>>336922598
Either way I'm sure the game supports custom portraits so you can RP as whatever you would like
>>336922514
The devs feel no obligation to preserve the game you buy. They consider it within their right to fundamentally fuck it up. Same with CKII. Purchase it at your own peril.
>>336922418
>before the game went down in fucking flames
So never then?
/gsg/ pls, nobody has the same autistic taste as you, people don't give a fuck if its more casual
Why is this game being shilled so much out of nowhere?
Don't you people know about Paradox?
>>336922493
Yeah, I find this a little strange too. I suppose they want the extra day to work on stuff they already KNOW is not working right, but there is always something big that gets missed on the first day of release that would need a fix ASAP.
>>336922853
Have you seen the streams/LPs? It's a genuinely good game. People are "shilling" it because they are excited about it.
R8 my empire
>>336922832
Try the official forums then, hell even reddit are up in arms over the last two patches. And the next one looks even worse.
>>336922832
>literally clamoring the fact that you are a casual piece of shit
>>336922853
Shilled? I'm just talking about the game because I'm going to play itfor free
>>336922598
I'm almost 100% sure that you can make a human male.
>>336922936
Should take out Intelligent anon. If it's Zeon, there is no intelligence involved
>>336922901
What's good about it? Isn't it just low budget Beyond Earth?
>>336922007
DELET THIS
>>336922901
>It's a genuinely good game
It looks like a genuinely good game, friend. Unless you've played it, you don't know that it is.
>>336922007
I only get mad about piracy if people try to morally justify it (unless they are poor, then I kinda get it)
If you like a game enough to spend some real time on it then it benefits you and everybody else in the long run to actually spend money on it since the devs will be able to deliver more of what you like. Pirates are riding piggyback on everybody else.
If you pirate just to save money, even if you can afford it, and not for some self-deluded moral reason, then that actually doesn't bother me so much, because at least you are being honest
>>336922853
Its the time of game vidya gamers have been begging for literally for years. An open sandbox galaxy simulator where you can pit custom empires against each other in a grand simulation of war and politics.
tl;dr, you can finally settle the argument of would win, the Federation or the Galactic Empire.
Of course there is going to be hype. Its why people got hyped for Spore, and why they were so angry when their dreams were cruelly crushed. Pls don't fuck this up Paradox.
>>336923083
Not at all.
>>336921762
>No Robot Races
>>336919578
It's going to suck till the couple rounds of DLC come out. Pirate it till then.
>>336923007
>literally using 'clamoring' wrong
>>336920118
as I said in the other thread, I'm a proffesional concept artist, any maya animators around here? I plan to make all 40k races (orks first for obvious reasons), It's easy because it's just half portrait , just like this one i made a while ago, not more than 3 - 4 hours per portrait
Bugs from starship troopers could be cool too, protoss and zerg are ovious choices too, any more suggestions?
I'll do my best and share it with you and grand strategy general but could be great if some animator can give them some movement
>>336923007
Nothing on the subreddit and the EU IV forum section, thanks for wasting my time.
>>336923007
Done building those liquor factories yet?
>>336923161
People have been saying that cybernetics are a tech thing that you unlock as you play. No idea if it'll effect your portrait though.
>>336919578
Has a Paradox strategy game ever been good on release?
>>336922730
Why so butthurt? Both CK2 and EU4 are vastly improved games now.
Trantor here we come baby
>>336923123
>Implying you cant pirate for moral reasons.
I dont want to give money to big corps who cuck over regular people
>>336923161
You can have robot workers that might revolt.
>>336923123
I tend to buy paradox games if I can pirate the DLC
That's as a result of buying a CK2 bundle back in like, '13 or something, and then realizing in early '15 that the amount of DLC I didn't have was like five times the price of the base game and all the DLC I did have.
Fuck $250 dollars of dlc.
>>336923273
east vs west was pretty good on release
>>336923273
Yes
>>336921248
Their games are good, their DLC policies suck. It's a known fact that you buy the base game and pirate everything else.
>>336923124
>tl;dr, you can finally settle the argument of would win, the Federation or the Galactic Empire.
I haven't seen such a fucking reddit line in a long time, that's literally out of fucking big bang theory
>>336923214
Races from SotS are fun.
Terran Federation/Starship Troopers, I'm hoping.
>>336923168
It's really unfortunate that it's true. I think they are doing this on purpose so they can shove DLC that should have been a part of the base game down your throat
>>336923345
>$250 dollars of dlc.
Is that including all the pointless shit like extra portraits flags? Because I don't see why people feel like they MUST buy all that shit. Just buy the expansions if you want and ignore everything else.
>>336923347
Fuck you man.
>>336923367
Did you not work out that was bait from the first half of the first sentence?
>>336923365
They release meaty expansions and cosmetic dlc alongside free content. How is that bad?
>>336919578
Best site to buy?
>>336923271
>>336923341
I'm annoyed you can't just be a race of robots, though
Guess we'll get it in DLC eventually
>>336923214
Make sure you check the paradox forums/reddit. There's already a big 40k mod in the works.
>>336920167
I usually have more than 300 hours in paradox games
Worth $40 if you ask me
>>336923365
>It's a known fact that you buy the base game and pirate everything else.
What? I don't do this, how is it a known fact?
>>336923440
>Buy Viking DLC
>none of my viking look like vikings
>>336923505
>meaty expansions
That's a goddamned lie and you know it.
>>336923440
Half of that stuff is accurate unit skins and dynastic flags. IE, things that should have been part of the base game, even if they have no mechanical value.
>>336923507
GMG if you don't want to fuck around with VPNs and risk a Steam ban
>>336923507
Nuuvem if you have a br VPN, 16$
Otherwise GMG with the SPACE25 coupon, 30$
>>336919578
>Hak hak hak
v excited to see what DLC they come up with
Despite being a shit game, CIV:BE had some cool ideas about advancement through computer or bio tech, and the purity of your race
Would love to see some robotic gods or bio-monster-races
You know, cool shit
>>336923524
thanks going for it and offer my help in case someone need it
>>336923507
GMG for 25% off, I guess. You shouldn't pre-order things though, anon.
>>336922338
>>336921573
>>336921538
>>336921438
>>336919708
The Late Game is also slow as fuck even on octocores (looks like they need better mulithreading), don't preorder this shit til reviews come out/they release a day one patch.
Watching streamers rigs melt under this game is fucking ridiculous.
>>336923470
stop trying to cover your tracks Felicia
What game like this to play while I wait?
>>336923273
Depends on the definition I suppose. There are always glitches and things that could work alot better that get fixed/changed as players find them or give feedback about mechanics.
Nothing totally game breaking, though I am sure we will here the howling cries of "Feature X is OP, nerf plox" to "Feature Y makes the game to easy" and so on.
>>336923515
Robots are for slavery.
>>336919578
Does anyone have any copies they'd be willing to give?
>>336923581
I guess but does it really bother you so much not to have them? They make no difference to the gameplay.
>>336920427
There are male versions of all races.
pic related
>>336921248
>Known for their DLC policy
You mean for their policy supprting their games years after release?
Even without buying dlc you get pretty big amount of content for free
>>336923505
It's not that bad for EU4 right now, but for CK2 it's bad.
>>336923680
That kind of cosmetic detail means to world to people that play these sorts of games, anon. That's why Paradox are so reviled; they know how much their target audience wants it, so they cut it out and sell it separately for an extra buck.
>tfw BR and got it for 17 usd
My first race is going to be space BRs
>>336923638
>start game with huge galaxy
>be surprised that it runs like shit in end game
Every time.
>>336923756
Post logs.
>>336923559
It's commonly recommended every time people discuss Paradox games.
>>336923318
Johan isn't walking from house to house with a gun to force people into buying dlc
All games Paradox has released in later years have been complete, though at times buggy. Their dlc policy makes it possible for the devs to continue working on their games years after the release, I really don't see why some people are so pissy about this. You can get all DLC for a 75 % discount at the start of every new release.
>>336923756
I don't think they allow you to play as the cosmic disaster events anon.
>>336923652
I guess this case is different because it's a totally new IP and we have nothing to compare it with. But with Paradox sequels they always release the game lacking features compared to the previous, that gets added in with DLC.
>>336923657
We will see about that
>>336923638
>AMD
Found the problem
>>336923214
Do you bave a website or twitter anon? That looks great
Who else hitting multiplayer day 1 to have fun for a bit before people figure out how to minmax and suck all the fun out?
>>336923748
But what makes you think Paradox would have spent the money to create all these extra art assets if they didn't think they could get more money for them somehow? Would you rather they simply didn't exist rather than being sold as DLC?
>>336923345
Last time I saw EU4 on sale you could get all DLC minus Mare Nostrum for 25 €. CK2 probably offers similar deals.
>>336923687
jeh but only humans look different
>>336924019
Nah i'll be determining what is the greath library of the game and way to maximise
>>336923214
wish I could draw like that
>>336923836
This. If you don't like the DLC don't buy it. And if you want it, wait for it be 75% off on Steam. I got all my EU IV DLC for 6 bucks.
>>336922832
No one is complaining about games being more casual, but rather about ridiculous gameplay abstractions like influence in EU4's case
>>336923515
You can.
>Research Robots -> Droids -> Synthetics
>Colonise a planet with Synths
>Release planet as independent empire
>Reload save
>Select the empire you just created
No Mods/DLC required my dude
>>336924140
>Stellaria
I'm sure that's not a virus.
>>336923680
Immersion is a big factor for me. It doesn't feel like I'm the king of England if my troops don't look the part. You have to remember, this is an autistic audience for an autistic genre.
>>336923214
Maybe dune, with Sardaukar/Bene gesserit/ Fremen
>>336924019
It's all fun and games until someone accidentally summons eldritch horrors from another dimension
>>336923687
>male or female only
EXCUSE ME?
>>336924042
You're not understanding anon, what you're calling unnecessary details are shit that any developer worth their salt would just consider things you would need to have your game be complete. These things are not expensive to create, they're not particularly time consuming either since there's never even animation for the vast majority of the cosmetics, just still portraits and textures.
The very idea that you think the only options are for them to be paid DLC or for them to not exist is repulsive.
>>336923748
Paradox are not "so reviled" when you compare them to, Activision, EA, Ubisoft or Bethesda. Hell, after the fuck up that was Beyond Earth, I would say 2K and Firaxis are also more reviled.
>>336923124
There's been tons of games like this though.
Distant worlds for instance
>>336924189
Does it actually change portraits and shit?
>>336922936
>living on Earth
>not on space colonies
>can't even colony/asteroid drop
I know that they are not in the game, but come on,just play as feds
>>336924304
More like BORING worlds amirite?
>>336924304
>Distant worlds
Make AI do everything for you: the game?
Thanks, no
what FTL will you be using?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VogVAHlUKME
>>336923748
I wouldn't say they're reveiled. They make quality games, just people don't appreciate the business policy, especially since they're one of the few in the genre industry making these games.
>>336924325
Yes. Robot/Droid/Synth pops have completely different stats to regular biological races. They also don't reproduce by having a food surplus per planet, they're built in the same way buildings are and consume energy once they're active.
Xenophile
Fanatic Colectivist
Despotic Empire
+Adaptive
+Enduring
-Repugnant
We BR now.Xenophile is justified in that BRs have a fascination with foreigners.
>>336924396
Wormholes, switching to jump drives as soon as/if I can.
>>336924240
it says sex not gender so its allowedwait for gender DLC so you can create all male gay races
>>336924396
The one that can cause Chaos to show up
>>336924280
People should have hated Firaxis for 10 years. Their Sid Mierereieier's Raliroads! was a hot mess that they broke even worse with two token patches and promptly dropped support completely and pretend they never made it.
>>336922598
>>336923040
the trailer with the lost colony ship showed humans wearing naval uniforms. not sure if its actually in game though
>>336924289
FEZZAN JEWS GET OUT
>>336924396
Sadly all the ayys look devoid of all personality. Call me a Vux but I'll go for the one least offensive to the eye.
>>336924396
Warp of course
Fuck universe
>>336924462
Where are you doing this?
Is there a way to just jump into the late game with all the empires already established? The funniest parts of Paradox games for me was the diplomatic side and competing with other large empires over contested land.
>>336924563
Warp tech doesn't have the endgame scenario chance, that's jump drives, which you can't start with.
>>336924584
Fire up the game with all empires being run by AI and speed up time until you're happy with the state of the galaxy, then take control of an empire.
Have any of the streamers tested yet whether you can pirate the DLC if you buy the base game?
>>336924289
You probably want collectivist if you want slaves.
>>336924002
My portfolio is 4 years old outdate because of NDA of my company mostly, I should update it this year, but I also make stuff for dota2 as a freelance, bisho bola is my ID
Back in topic I think I'll update the progress in /GSG/ starting with the orks, but don't know if I should make a generic one or a warboss , you get color variations ingame but don't know if you can change them all toguether, but humans use different genders and color thou.
>>336924384
>>336924365
>use the option that makes the AI handle everything
>WOOOW WHY DONT I GET TO DO ANYTHING
Modern paradox fans
so how much of the game is known already before it came out due to streamers?
i try to not spoil any of the game before i play it
>>336924990
Stay mad faggot
First few months of discussion will go as follows:
>look at my Imperium of Man!
>look at my furry empire!
>Swedish space cucks!
>>336925047
a lot
>>336924276
Literally given almost 100 different racial skins and 5 different types of ship design at release.
Complains that he has to spend 4.99 to unlock 10 more skins and a new ship type.
srsly dude. This is DLC done correctly. Its not a pay to win deal like EA does with its shooters where you can spend 20 bucks to get an edge on the competition. Its a bunch of cosmetic changes and/or adds to the game. Plus, in Multiplayer everyone plays with the Hosts' DLC even if they themselves don't have it.
You are literally bitching about a for profit company wanting to make some profit. I have no problems with this so long as its not in your face jew tactics where you buy the base game but critical modules you NEED to have for it to function are DLC. That is not the case here.
>>336925047
Actual lategame is still pretty much a complete mystery.
>>336924584
The galaxy fills up surprisingly quickly, the game tends to turn into more typical grand strategy mid-game where empires and mega-alliances compete for more systems.
>>336925047
Why? This game doesn't have a story. And a lot, coverage of this game has been pretty throughout.
>>336924964
It depends on whether the game allows you to create different portraits for different leader types of the same species ie warboss generals, freeboota kaptins, grot scientists etc.
>>336925047
Many streamers have done 20+ hour marathonned, we've seen pretty much every aspect besides some endgame stuff
>>336925047
IIRC not a single streamer has reached late game yet
>>336925141
Nigger I'm talking about Paradox games like EUIV and Crusader Kings 2, I haven't fucking played Stellaris so I don't know what their DLC plan is yet.
Quit being a stupid nigger and trying to defend something when you can't even follow the conversation.
I'll be picking the cthulu tentaculoid race
>>336924513
>scifi game
>all species have 2 sexes
laaaaaaaaaaaame
>>336925193
i just dont want to be that faggot that knows all the meta and how to respond to every scenario before they have even played the game.
i want my every reaction to what the game throws at me the first time to be genuine and exclude any outside information. thats just how i like to play games
>>336925260
You sound mad :^)
Been watching Macross Delta; thinking of spreading Deculture throughout the galaxy.
http://kaisersly.github.io/stellaris_race_maker/?version=1&name=%22N.U.N.S%22ðoses=6,9,13&government=14&traits=2,12
Who /Dune/ here?
Going for an empire that will be completely based around Zro
