Daily reminder to boycott this shit if you are Australian
If you buy this you are allowing Blizzard to set a precedent that it's acceptable to steal from customers
There is LITERALLY no excuse for this.
That's what you get for shitposting
You shouldn't want to play a shit game anyway you fuckin bogan cunt
>>336899669
You do know that there is a 10% tax throw on the game, and an additional 10% thrown on that because of a law paced last year for all inbound products in Australia?
Yea that's right, You have two sets of 10% tax, one on products and another on imports.
Blame your shitty government.
>if you are Australian
Who the FUCK would be Australian in this day and age?
It costs a lot of money to ship all those bits and bytes all the way to Australia.
>>336899861
Australia does not tax any digital purchases under $1000 in any way.
>>336899669
>blames blizzard for AUS rules, tax's, laws and inflated prices when the min. wage is double that of the US (and the game is also double priced to match)
its almost like your stupid.
>>336899948
>under 1000$
You fucking moron, It's 1000$ worth of imports.
Meaning, any shipment of games that is total of 1000$ or more. Meaning any distro outside of mom and pop shops are hit with that on physical media. So the prices are set the same for digital.
>>336899954
>thinking minimum wage is the same thing as discretionary income
>calling anyone else stupid
>>336899669
Pro tip cunt.
Just buy it directly from an America retailer/re-seller, that's the brilliance and freedom of region free Digital Games.
>>336900057
>thinking minimum wage is the same thing as discretionary income
Different anon, but I take it you don't know how inflation and fair pricing works.
>>336899669
>government takes everything you have
>somehow hate blizzard for it
>>336900057
>game costs 60$ in the US. Min. wage is 7.50
>Game costs 120 in AUS. Min wage is 15
Your literally paying the same price we are, just at a different number. And again, none of this takes into account all the shit the AUS goverment does to keep games out of their country.
Exchange rate isn't the only thing that matters when comparing things like this.
>>336899669
I've been playing overwatch all day and it is worth no where near that amount, i'd give it $15-$20
no more, its a shit TF2 clone for even more inclusive for casual players.
>>336899861
>>336899954
>>336900243
then how do you explain that we pay the exact same price as you do for virtually all steam games + the exchange rate
buy our games goy
seriously, look up the price on the ps store if you want a good laugh
>>336900379
>pay the exact same price as you do for virtually all steam games
you don't
hence this thread and your butthurt
>>336900317
ugh I hate when things are inclusive, am I right /pol/?
>>336899703
Very nice.
ayoub approves
>>336899669
you know its 60 bux right
>>336900416
>VAT
You do know this is 2016. We all know about the taxes other countries pay.
>>336899669
>aussie shitposters are suddenly nice
nah mate, this is for all the shitposting you've been spewing for millennia, eat it up you cunts
>>336900435
we do
this isn't a steam game
retard
>>336900379
You dont?
I see people bitching ALL the time about AUS prices of games. Like, ALL the fucking time.
>>336899669
>not purchasing a key from G2A for $18 off
18+ kiddo
>>336900504
They also bitch about games that are either out right banned or banned from retail. Or are old as fuck and hard to find.
it's dead here anyway
barely any games here during open beta, wouldn't waste your money.
you should be used to this shit. Australia gets fucked with prices for everything.
>>336900484
Gotta agree with this.
This is a reparations fee for all your shitposting over the years.
>>336899948
>>336900379
Probably has to do with distribution services. It's pretty cut and dry that imports, physical or digital, have fees.
>virtually same price on steam
Eh? I'm pretty sure most games are hiked up for your region via steam.
Just don't get it if you don't want it. If you do, you pay the price and deal with your government taxes.
>>336900528
>spending $56 on this shit
>purchasing the origins edition
enjoy your $20 skins goy
Steam is operated in the united states, so technically you are using an american account to buy american products on american grounds, valve and australia are fighting about this loophole right now
blizzard decided to say fuck the loophole altogether and play ball with australia.
>giving blizzard money
Surely someone will buttfuck you for free, anon
>descendants of the scum of the British Empire think they deserve to be treated like real people
>>336900747
So basically, OP is saying boycott blizzard because its actually following Australian law, and that valve should be praised for abusing AUS law.
australians...seem kinda retarded
>>336900446
Your literally trying to bait bait, it's almost like the internet equivalent of talking to a wall, a very stupid wall at that, what are you hoping to achieve here?
>>336900946
You're*
>>336900747
valve literally have an entirely seperate pricing region for australians
how in the fuck can they argue that they don't do business here?
>>336900978
My what?
>>336901082
They can argue it just detects the location of your ISP and changes the store to your local currency.
It's not unheard of, to have an ISP based in one country providing internet for another.
Unlike and improbably? Yeah...but that's loopholes for you. Kind of like how your IP doesn't necessarily prove you pirated something, you are guilty as fuck, but you cant be prosecuted because of it.
>>336901305
it doesn't change to AUD, though.
we pay in USD, but with different pricing to every other region.
>>336899954
moron
Our min wage is higher which means ALL of our products gernerall cost more. We have a higher cost of living compaerd to US.
Disposable income is what you should be looking, not min. wage.
>>336900002
>So the prices are set the same for digital.
See that last part is what doesn't make sense to me....
>>336901360
You got me there, honestly I don't know the specifics, but that's part of valve's case.
They were also fighting about the return product policy and used that exact defense against Australia.
>>336901478
>Disposable income is what you should be looking
This famalonsky. Living in norway is all nice and dandy until you have to spend 80k euros on a fucking shitbox
>>336901478
Digital content still takes on physical form. one, it needs physical real estate. Data centers, wired connections to homes (satellites), your personal hard drive.
Them being physical and not just floaty bits means it can be taxed just as much as the next thing.
>>336899669
Blame your shitty government or move off that prison/penal colony island.
>>336901478
>pay more
>twice minimum wage
>10% at most increase in cost of living
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Australia&country2=United+States
Why do australians always bitch and complain about shit they don't understand.
>>336900562
thats bullshit. It takes me 3 seconds to get in a game
>>336901724
and they'll be 200ms+ and played on NA servers 95/100 times once open beta ends
isn't every fucking australian games expensive in the first place?
i think you gotta boycott someone else
>>336899669
>There is LITERALLY no excuse for this.
>Australian minimum wage is nationally $17.29
>Australia has a VAT of 10%
You expect the world to sell you games under those circumstances? Fuck off dumbass.
>boo hoo even the most pimple-ass teenager has to work 4 hours at maccas to buy a video game
>>336900243
This would only apply if you were a fucking pleb actually working the minimum wage.
Minimum wage is irrelevant outside of mcdonalds plebs.
>>336901803
It's never like that with hots. There's also a command line that let's you only match with ausfags.
>a few aussies make total asses of themselves and the rest of us have to cop it
We're not all shitposters, please just understand.
>>336902005
As an aussie I shitpost 80% of the time. Don't try to break the stereotype because you can't, cuck.
>>336901885
>le minimum wage maymay
every time
>>336901904
And you're a pleb who is only considering the side of the equation from the wageslave.
Businesses pay their employees more when there's a higher minimum wage. This means they offload the added expense in one of three ways
>robotic automation
>eliminate positions and pile duties on the other workers, stressing them the fuck out
>offload the price difference on the consumer so that they pay more money for products
And guess which happens to you, Ausfuck?
Ever wonder why Poland and Russia have cheap as shit games on Steam?
>being human
>BUYING games
>BUYING FUCKING OVERWATCH
>>336902201
Refer to >>336902206 sunburnt subhuman
If you want to whine about international business, try not living in a nanny state
>>336899948
Holy fuck m8 how can you not know this
probably some logan cunt tbqh
>>336902226
>implying aussies are human
>tfw chicken nuggets cost 6x the amount in Aus than they do in America
>>336902159
kill yourself leb cunt
>all this asspain itt
It's amazing how non-Australians (faggots) are physically incapable of handling the bantz.
>>336899669
It's called regional pricing
Companies do it because
1. they can
2. aussies are willing to pay that much
3, the ACCC can't do shit about it
In EU wie had the nice 1 $ = 1 € bullshit conversion since forever. Sometimes purchasing from murika websites + fee is worth it.
I don't care where you're from but if you plan on buying Overmeme you should be shot.
>>336902581
What's wrong with Overwatch?
>>336902406
Truly we are the greatest country on earth
>>336902512
source pls
>>336902623
Its stupid it sucks I hate it
>>336900416
Why is their pricing so shit?
Who would ever buy from them when sites like Amazon and SimplyGames exist.
Buying it digitally off the PS store for like 30% more than you can get a physical copy is a sign something is wrong
most of you guys are forgetting that we have a high minimum wage because we have a high cost of living. Our ability to buy shit is usually quiet low, especially when we get priced higher because reasons.
>>336899669
>be filthy Brazil citizen
>Overwatch is 250 brazilian dollars
>250 for a fucking digital copy of a PC game
I thought only Jewtendo did this.
>>336902832
>High cost of living
>at most 10% higher
Get the fuck out of here dumb fuck.
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Australia&country2=United+States
This doesn't include places like New York where a small ass 800sq/ft apartment costs 3000 USD to rent a month.
>>336899669
Selling a game for $89 on pc is crazy. Judging by my enjoyment drop off in the hours I've played, I'm willing to say it is worth about $20. As experiences go, I'd place it aside The Culling, a game that is perfectly retailed at $15.
>>336902457
>6'1 Italian master race actually, senpai
>>336902896
>1 USD = 3.5 BZR
Do go on.
I'd be happy to get at least 40-50 hours of fun gameplay for this price.. anyone in the beta think it'll hold up that long?
>>336899897
all the people who live and are born in australia. are you fucking retarded anon?
>>336903102
lmao no
>>336903214
He's joking, you dumb aussie.
>>336903102
>40-50 hours for this price
I already put about 40 hours in the beta and I won't be buying it.
>>336903260
You have to remember, Aussies just got the internet about 6 months ago. It's why there has been increased shit posting.
Fuck off Aussies, your wages are the highest of everyone, you don't get nearly screwed over as us Yuros do, and yet you manage to whinge ten times as much.
>>336903221
why? I didn't like TF2 that much and I still spent 200+ hours in it with friends
>>336899669
Daily reminder that literally every AUS game does this and boycotting it will make not a single bit of difference. It has always been like this and it won't ever change.
How can you not know this as an Australian?
>>336903423
It probably has to do with me not liking arena shooters a whole heap but I can just never see a lasting appeal with multiplayer only games like this. Like, I had quite a bit of fun with the beta but i can't see myself enjoying it for more than a couple of weeks at most.
Open beta's still going (got extended an extra day) so try it out and see how you feel
>>336899669
Just import your games dumbass
>>336903435
>always like this
It wasn't until the market crash in 2008, when the Aus dollar fell nearly 40%. No one readjusted the prices because they lost money and needed to make it back. And the AUD make it close to the USD again in 2012/2013. And just like everyone expected the value dropped 40% again.
>>336902226
>being human
>POSTING images
>POSTING FUCKING PEPE
kys
Canadabro here, I feel ya.
>>336903794
The situation is worse in Canada. At least the Australian have higher salaries to pay for the increase.
>>336903630
Doesn't seem like you guys had any trouble getting back on your feet
Some even would go to such length as saying it was the australians behind the 08 crash to profit off it in the long run
>software
>taxable
some jewery
literally just make it the first time and put it on a server for people to download
this "distribution" is so stupid, you don't even need to list it under any country. Just list it in USD and people will pay with their credit card/paypal which will convert the money.
>>336903914
>60 on consoles
>I play on PS4
>Have to pay 80 dollars if I want the game.
SAVE ME WEEDMAN
>>336901885
>software made overseas
>tax
>>336902980
>Italian
>Aussie
pick one
>>336904021
>you guys
Please don't, I only know this because I got in a huge ass argument with an Australian who was pissed about game prices.
I had to go into full detail about how their market crashed, backing it with links showing the reason for their high game prices(and other products) was because of the crash. added with their increased taxes and additional import taxes being added.
I have had shit for old ads prior to 2008 of game prices not being raised and how shit didn't start going up until 2008 crash.
The amount of Australians who don't understand that 1 AUD does not equal 1 USD is amazing and rather saddening.
>>336899669
Currency exchange rates are not the companies fault you dipshit it's your economy and price of resources. you want a cheaper game then get a better social structure.
>>336904190
None of that applies to downloading software which wasn't made by Australians in australia
>>336904096
No one can save you now
>>336904190
There may have been a reason before, but know days companies have just left the prices high because they can. There is literally no reason not to back to the cheaper way things were, they just want to continue to make more money.
It is even more ridiculous for online software that should be almost equal to the US price after exchange rates.
>>336904336
>He thinks that one countries prices should stay the same for another
Not when 1 AUD does not equal 1 USD.
There are many factors involved in pricing.
Digital content is not free to transfer, It requires land, taxes, materials, and cost of power.
Do you really think a digital game is free space?
It requires several things
>Land
>Power
>Data centers
>Taxes to be paid on the land being used (This would be the wiring centers going into Australia)
Digital isn't some magical mumbo jumpo floating in a void. It is still a physical medium.
Thinking otherwise is on par with believing the world is flat, Or that there are more particles in the air because you can't see them.
>>336904334
the exchange rate isn't the problem, look at the image
I bought SC2 for $90 when the exchange rate was in aus favour
>>336904190
Games have always been expensive here dipshit, I remember PS1 games being close to $100 back in the 90's.
>>336899669
>If you buy this you are allowing Blizzard to set a precedent that it's acceptable to steal from customers
You're a Strayan, they are expecting you to steal it anyway, so why not make some shekels off the few Strayans who don't revert to their natural instincts?
>>336904540
All those things you listed are paid for when people pay their ISP and government taxes.
The increased price of digital games does not go back to the government/country
Software prices are all bullshit, otherwise you wouldn't have one game which is sold the same (as with exchange rate) and another like blizzard games which are all markup to a shiton.
>>336904508
>No reason to not go back
wrong, The AUD is still not equal to the USD.
As of right now 1 USD = .75 AUD.
Added with the fact you have a tax with an additional import tax.
>>336904567
Lying sack of shit. Also I always love how Australians don't understand what shipping and import taxes are.
>>336904978
>mark up
They are on par with physical retail values, You can check that at Aus Target website and several of their mom and pop stores.
>>336904149
Do you....Okay Anon, sales tax applies to imported goods too. Just so you don't sound like a blathering retard anymore.
>>336905063
>software downloading
>tax
>import tax
how much does blizzard pay you
>>336905145
downloading is not imported goods
>>336905063
Australians seriously cannot be this retarded, can they? Is it some sort of inside joke where they all pretend they don't know basic math or economics or some shit?
Shitposting tax still on the rise luckily
>>336905323
Do I need to pay a tax since I'm importing these shitposts directly to my monitor?
>>336905239
>software downloading
>tax
>import tax
Yes it has an import tax. The physical media and imported data have taxes. Welcome to the year 2016. I understand you Australians don't know how the internet works yet. But digital content is just as physical as a book.
>>336905243
No, It's that they don't know the rest of us have had the internet for a good while now and know how to look up an entire countries economic history in a few clicks.
Blame your shitty government
20 dollars is the minimum wage
Remember to vote Labor to prevent the 'netflix tax' that Scott Morrison wants to introduce.
Buy it from g2a or something you fucking dumb cunt, its being sold at the usd price in aud
You literally only have yourself to blame for buying from the platform
>>336905390
An import tax means the company will have to pay extra at a different rate to the Australian Government.
Blizzard does not pay anything when Australians download a game.
have a look at this
http://www.business.gov.au/business-topics/selling-products-and-services/importing/Pages/default.aspx
Anything else?
>>336905635
>netflix tax
Fucking based
You faggots use up too much bandwidth
>>336905635
Sorry to break it to you buddy but Labor is going to lose big time unless they dump Shorten.
>it's an "Australian's don't understand basic economics" thread
>>336905063
>The AUD is still not equal to the USD.
But they were pretty much equal to each other in 2010 to 2013 and the prices remained unchanged from 2008.
Prices since then have always been high regardless of the dollar, it is being used as an excuse to charge things high.
Even with importation and taxation costs, they are not costly enough for the prices to be more expensive as they are they are.
Like $10 - $20 USD PER game for those things is a clear rip off.
>>336905752
Most Australians use proxies and things to get American Netflix as its both cheaper and has more content then the Australian one.
Australians paying more for an american service is one thing, but having to pay more then the American version AND get less content then the American version, that is a fucking joke.
>>336905732
>He doesn't know there are disk based versions of the game being shipped to Australia
You don't know how good business works do you. You don't sabotage companies who buy your product from you.
>Target
>mom and pop shops import the disk based game
>have to sell at full tax+import tax price
>Blizzard sells digital version cheaper
>no one buys from retail stores
>Blizzard loses distro with these companies
Welcome to Economics 101 Australian.
>>336899669
Shit, son. Here in Brazil this motherfucker sells for almost $200 of our shitty money.
>>336900057
Dont be using white people words just because you're mad. Deak with it.
>>336905635
>netflix tax
Thanks for convincing me to vote Liberal anon.
>>336905881
>he thinks that prices will adjust themselves overnight.
That's not how it works. When a countries market crashes 40% you don't change the prices in just 2 years time. Companies lost shit loads of money, and investores will have no interest in buying into the country at the lower price for 10 years of solid proof that the country won't drop in value again.
You Australians don't get it at all.
>>336905891
brick and morter stores are always cheaper though, thats how they make sales
>>336906051
>always cheaper
That's also because they pay less taxes. Most mom and pop shops import small amounts of goods.
Not 500,000 worth of product on one cargo ship.
>>336899669
>Being Australian.
You deserve it.
>>336899954
They allowed themselves to get into their current fucked up nanny state, of course kangaroocucks are stupid.
>>336906270
>le nanny state may may
Got any other outdated memes son? What about banned porn? That was a good one.
>>336905987
>Companies lost shit loads of money
Name some game companies that this happened to and how much.
>No interest in buying into the country at the lower price for 10 years of solid proof that the country won't drop in value again.
Bullshit. That is just a convenient excuse so they can sell things way higher then they need to be. They wouldn't be equal, but they are still charging huge amounts more then necessary.
All this time since then with prices only getting higher for no reason is a joke, if anything they should have stayed the same.
>>336905891
So you finally admit they mark up the price of digital downloads
>>336906456
>name a game company
Are you retarded? Do you not know what retail stores are? Or how distribution works?
>Just a convenient excuse
No, in the business world people don't like buying into sour deals.
Stop replying to me, you clearly have no clue how global economics works.
>>336906532
That wasn't me. Also you can gladly look up additional taxes laws. Digital content is taxed in Australia. Just like it is in multiple US states and other countries.
>>336906626
Digital content is not taxed, I can get other games for their price with the exchange rate.
>>336899669
Everyone does this, not just blizz. My wallet it standing proof mate.
>>336906626
If it were only the retail stores and shipping services that were making them need to charge higher, why then not use them?
Why not do digital exclusive things and charge lower prices?
There are plenty of alternatives that could be used to allow prices to be cheaper in Aus but still make good profit.
But they always seem to go for the one that makes more even if it rips people off a bit.
>>336907713
>Plenty of other options
Because Australia continue to have ISPs that give you data cap limits.
That's why they don't go full digital.
>>336908130
This is stupid.
Almost EVERY ISP have caps at least 100gb.
And tonnes give you 'unlimited' anyway
It is a tiny minority have less then that.
Australians have crap internet speeds, not caps.
>>336908326
>crap speeds not caps
Confirmed for not being Australian and just shit posting for shit posting sake.
>>336908634
I literally download at 400kb/s and have been for years because I live in the outback
no cap of any kind though
>>336899669
Nobody should be buying this game in the first place.
>>336908634
Oh please, Iinet fucking gave me 300gb just for being a valued costumer.
Telstra's smallest bundles is 400gb and most people use that.
And there are a fuck load of unlimted ADSL2+ companies like Dodo
>>336908990
> tfw australicunts have better internet than some of europoor countries
My internet has excellent speed but it's capped at 100gb a month and then it goes to dial-up speeds. Shit sucks yo.
>>336908990
>He thinks 300GB is a lot
Cool you can download 5 new games a month. That's without patches.
>>336910245
m8 it'd take a month to download 5 games so its fine.
>>336902512
>2. aussies are willing to pay that much
> Australia has one of the highest piracy rates
>>336905063
>Under current law, things imported by consumers and which are not goods or real property (including digital products and services) are not subject to the GST.
>In order to maintain the integrity of the tax system and offer a level playing field for domestic suppliers, the Government announced in the 2015–16 Budget that it would extend GST to offshore intangible supplies to Australian consumers with effect from 1 July 2017.
We dont pay tax. But we will. Then our $90 games will be $100 games
>>336902714
It's from the government pricing inquiry into Apple, Adobe and Microsoft a few years back, Apple and Adobe tried to dosge question but Microsoft gave the straight answer.
It's the answer from the horse's mouth; not the minimum wage/lower dollar shit being spouted here by retards.
>>336899669
>be russian
>game cost 30$
>still too expensive
>>336912387
Maybe you should cut down on the vodka, sergei.
>>336904190
1 AUD was 1 USD under Labor.
You won't see that under a Liberal government lmao.
>>336899669
another reminder that poorfags are always stupid
>tfw I can eat shit if I want to but austriapoors can't
>>336910938
There is still enough demand in the Australian market to keep the price at that point, and there is no guarantee that pirates will start paying for shit even if you drop the price because those people are already used to pirating shit.
>>336915368
Im a pirate simply because i cant stand paying $100+ for a game.
Give me over-watch at 20-30 AUD and ill buy it in a heartbeat
Fallout 4 was $69 AUD in store for a physical copy. Steam price? $79 USD
Explain that shit. We get skewed so often.
So ill buy a game and pirate all the dlc or pirate it and buy it in a year when its more acceptable price
>Being Australian
