>see this series constantly being shilled on /v/
>all threads devolve into shitposting how PC will never be able to play the upcoming masterpiece that is supposed to be persona 5
>decide to check it out to see if I'm truly missing out by emulating this garbage
>4 hours in, not a single thing has happened yet
Why do people shill this shit so hard? It's just a visual novel with 3D environments that look like ass. The voice acting is also hilariously bad and the characters are annoying as shit. Fuck that grumpy piece of shit kojima and the fucking loli can suck a giant dick aswell.
>four hours
Here's your reply
The game DOES have a long intro. The game is around 70 hours to balance that though.
>>336894813
>>336894924
"i-it gets good 20 hours in, i swear!"
wow faggots.
>>336894000
Persona 3 isn't much better, but for some reason people pretend it's a masterpiece.
>>336895050
game gets good at 20 hours =/= game starts at 20 hours anon
This game is still pretty shit after 50 hours though
>>336894000
If you haven't made it to June yet, you're still in the slow part, but I can understand the frustration with it feeling like nothing's happening.
>>336895050
If you're going to just post like a retard please leave
>>336894000
you aren't even past the intro mate
>>336894000
You know, you can hate everything if you try hard enough.
You are missing on something you don't like? That's nice for you, please stop shitposting about it, not defending the "never ever" poster that made you post this either.
>>336895184
Persona 3 is the worst combination of unreliable AI and shitty padded dungeon design. Persona 4 doesn't have much better dungeon design but christ at least it's interesting to look at and isn't 300 floors of shit. That's the biggest turn off from replaying it or recommended other people to play it. Persona 4 might be pretty easy but at least it doesn't waste my time as much.
>>336895615
Well, for how overrated Persona 3 is, at least Tartarus wasn't a linear corridor like P4 dungeons.
I love Persona 4, but it does have an obnoxiously long intro. The four hour mark IS when it actually gets going, though. You should be entering the first real dungeon and having to manage your time very shortly.
>>336894000
>Why do people shill this shit so hard?
>shill
>talking about a game is shilling now
Nobody is trying to sell you the game OP.
Most poeple just talk about the waifus. Most threads about P5 not being on PC are falseflaguing.
Stop being a retard.
stop pretending to be a retard.
>>336895050
>>336894000
>4 hours in a 80 hours game
>>336894000
I agree about the intro. It shouldn't have to be so long, because that's just poor writing. The game isn't subtle in the slightest.
If you're going in for dungeons and not careful managing of day routines you're in for shit. Play SMT.
>>336897634
>Game overstays it's welcome
>B-but the R.O.I. is good!
Holy fuck is this what RPGs have become?
Just about to enter naotos dungeon. already know most the major plot points because I was forced to subdue the anime. Should I finish it at this point?
>>336897867
>is this what RPGs have become?
Lol, Persona 4 was released 8 years ago.
>>336898580
The main story of P4 sucks. If you're not in it for everything else for some reason than I'd quit.
>>336898580
If you just don't like playing it, then playing past the point where you start to get skills and Personas that make the game ludicrously easy is not going to change your mind. If you want to stop, then stop. You made a good run at it.
>>336894000
It's good if you like high school anime.
The music is amazing even though the gameplay is mediocre. Leave the thread OP, before someone tells you Adachi is the killer.
>>336898580
you're pretty much done. if you aren't enjoying it god knows why you played it this long
>>336895615
Persona 3's AI wasn't that bad. There were times where it totally screwed you over, though, that's true. I remember one time an enemy instantly killed me after an ambush with Ghastly Wail, since none of my allies prioritized healing my status over flinging attacks at it.
I think Mitsuru tried to charm it, too. I took her out of the party right after that.
>>336894000
Persona 3 and 4 are horrible games. They are only liked by extremely lonely retards and idiots who were 10 when these games came out. When one goes to play a jrpg they expect to travel through visually interesting environments with a plot advancing at a steady pace, usually when you get to the next town. In Persona 3 and 4 there are no interesting enviroments to explore, just a school, a mall, a house, a street and a bland fucking garbage dungeon.
They aren't even good visual novels. The story is horrible and very badly paced. Nothing fucking happens for most of the game, you just repeat a cycle while suffering through poorly written soap opera scenarios in the form of S-Links.
>>336902869
While too harsh, this anon basically sums up Person 3 and 4 pretty well. I'm hoping that P5 finally ditches the shitty S.Links and starts actually doing something interesting with the story with a decent pacing.
>>336902869
This is true and I love Persona
>>336902869
/thread
It's just nostalgia and waifus: The Game.
>muh gook story
>>336894000
Right there with you OP. Played after seeing it shilled, literally said wtf, and quit around the same time, fuckin weebs.
>>336903095
I don't think I'm harsh on it at all. That's exactly what the games are. I'm not saying every jrpg has to follow the same formula, there are jrpgs where you don't travel the world or have randomized dungeons, even both but are executed a lot better than Persona.
Azure Dreams for example. You have one town and one tower of randomized floors. And yet it's nowhere near as dull as Persona 3. You can build shit and place it where you want in the town, there are no roadblocks in the tower limiting your progress,etc. You don't have to force yourself to sit through social links to level up monsters.
I "get" what people see in Persona, but the execution sucks. I think that #FE game will be better executed since from what I've seen it doesn't have that stupid calendar pacing of the story and the only S-Links are with the main characters, so there won't be too many and you'll actually give a shit.
Persona 5 trailers give me the impression they woke up and realized their dungeons suck ass and are trying to improve that part of the game, but nothing else I saw implied the rest won't be just like 3 and 4. That calendar day by day shit really should go, it's awful. Having the story progression/events tied to a specific day means you'll likely just rush through the dungeon in two nights, then fuck about with S-Links for the rest of the 3 months.
>>336903714
> I don't like Persona
>So Persona shouldn't be Persona
This series isn't for you, I think its very clear
>>336903714
Then the calender system isn't for you, it's a subjective thing.
>Having the story progression/events tied to a specific day means you'll likely just rush through the dungeon in two nights, then fuck about with S-Links for the rest of the 3 months.
This is what I do and this is how I like it.
Besides, we don't even have S. Links confirmed and they're being sketchy on them
>>336903714
>Thrown away the calendar
>Thrown away the S-links
>the two things that made Persona more popular than SMT and gave it some recognition in the industry
What a shitty idea, I hope you never direct an ongoing series
>>336902753
>MARIN FUCKING KARIN
>>336902869
This may be true to some extent but state an rpg released in the last 8 years that has a better story than Persona
Try Persona 3
Also man, just buy yourself a PS3. I don't understand, it costs less than two games now.
Or are you afraid of "becoming a sonygger"?
>>336903714
Dunno, I got what you're trying to say and I agree with it but I still have some fun with Persona 3 and 4. They just mish-mashed stuff with P3 and are trying to make it better from there.
>#FE game
But it does have a calendar system as far as I know? Or it actually doesn't? And no social links whatsoever, by the way.
>Azure Dreams
Anon, it's not fair to compare P3 and 4 with an actual good game.
>>336897867
ebin post m89
>>336894000
You're the prime example of /v/ ruining the perception of video games in general to a person.
Shilling? You just ousted yourself as a buzzword using retard. No-one here is "shilling" a game from 2008. If someone is recommending the game, it's because they genuinely like the game.
And you're emulating the game instead of playing the superior re-release for the vita/ps tv? You would think a fat ass NEET like yourself would be able to tell if he's gonna like a game or not at this point, but I guess I'm giving PCFats too much credit.
>>336904063
>persona 4 is hot garbage
>better buy a PS3
This logic is stunning.
>>336902869
To be honest that's why I like Persona 4 so much, Adachi is the true representation of the player.
To be honest it really motivated me to be more of an outgoing person.
>yfw you're doing the dojima social link and you're nearing completion but all of a sudden you actually do get into a fight with him in front of nanako
i just wanted to stay neutral until it gave me 3 choices that just amounted to
>pay more attention to nanako, she's your only surviving family member and you need to start taking care of her since it's too late to take care of your DEAD WIFE you NIGGER
>yeah keep running away from your problems, you need help you fucking psychopath
>fuck you guy
Can we all just ignore the shitposter?
>4 hours
Lol kys mate
P4 is a masterpiece and you are just missing a gem if you gave up so early
>>336904186
What is there to think about in that one? He clearly was running away all this time. 90% of SLs in P4 are absolute shit but Dojima's is one of the better built and written.
>>336894000
>the voice acting is also hilariously bad
Made me check for an undub, and there actually is one. Would I be missing out on much by not playing the vita version though?
>>336904162
>all threads devolve into shitposting how PC will never be able to play the upcoming masterpiece that is supposed to be persona 5
That's what I'm talking about. If people really want to play P5 why don't they just buy a PS3?
>>336904319
Not much. At least you don't have to suffer through Marie's presence. Gameplay wise it's a fucking huge improvement in everything but the game it's even easier this way. Just play the PS2 version if you don't have a Vita.
>>336903971
If you think Persona has a good story you have extremely poor taste. Here's a few off the top of my head that a lot better.
Radiant Historia
The Witcher 2
The Witcher 3
Legend of Heroes Trails in the Sky FC + SC
Pandora's Tower
Xenoblade Chronicles
Lost Odyssey
Tales of Vesperia
Fallout New Vegas
Alpha Protocol
It's really not hard to be better than highschool anime character drama then save the world with frienship.
>>336902869
Yes
>>336902869
>When one plays an Rpg they expect to travel through visually interesting environments
But Persona isn't structured like you're usual rpg where you travel from town to town. All of the action happens in that one setting.
>>336904486
>The Witcher 3
I agree with everything but this. What the fuck?
>>336904486
>Legend of Heroes Trails in the Sky FC + SC
>Good story
The Kiseki games have a lot of good stuff but the story surely isn't.
>Memes of Vesperia
It has a good story, seriously?
>>336904486FC is 12 years old
>>336904306
i at the time actually thought he was swamped in work
>>336904498
FeMC a cute
I hope persona 5 is fun
>>336904624
You are replying to a guy that think western rpg has good story
Dude lmao
NANAKO BRING ME SOME SAUSAGES
>>336904781
>>336904672
Perhaps you weren't paying attention to his situation. He was the one that wanted to be swamped in work so to forget his failure to save his family. He couldn't face that his wife was dead and deal with Nanako.
>>336904764
I honestly just ignored his western picks. Although I admit New Vegas has a really good story and plot from what I remember.
>>336901086
Wrong. I hate that shit, but for some reason Persona and SMT just clicked with me.
>>336905117
what aspects of persona can you possibly enjoy if you don't like high school anime antics
>>336904764
>state an rpg
>WESTERN DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE I STUPIDLY LIMIT MY GAMING TO ONE SIDE OF THE PACIFIC
That's just retarded and weeb
>>336905232
I honest to god don't know. I do like anime to an extent, but what I've watched is probably considered normie shit like Cowboy Bebop and whatnot. Megaten in general is pretty much the only JRPG series I can stand to play anymore too, so it's strange.
>>336894000
>kojima
>>336902869
This.
Fuck Persona and fuck the faggots who think it's superior to other JRPGs.
>>336902869
>game is different from the rest
>it must be shit
>>336906850
Second best girl.
>>336894000
If you would only play a few more hours you could get to the amazingly deep "use what they're weak to" gameplay
Should I get Nocturne or Persona 3 first ?
>>336903971
Literally fucking anything. Even Neptunia games.
>>336906326
It's even bigger weeb bait than Nepshit. It's literally in Japan and for whatever reason everyone speaks honorifics AND in English.
>>336907628
Nocturne honestly.
>>336894000
>complaining about how the game looks
You're literally playing a PS2 game. Also if you don't like JRPGs in the first place you wont like Persona. P5 is only getting attention because PCkeks are absolute fucking cancer that have no games to talk about.
>>336894000
Because it's a forced friendship simulator that feeds the player to feeling self-importance because of the characters instantly developing a dependency issue as soon as they meet you followed by constantly sucking your dick.
Persona 4 Golden was better than the originalProve me wrongYou Cannot
>>336907973
So it's basically the MC being PC masterrace and every other party member is a console?
>>336904624
Kiseki has great world building, music and story. The characters are memorable and most of them have great banter. While Cold Steel has dropped in quality, it's still alright, but God forbid you say Trails in the Sky FC and SC has a bad story, straightforward as it was, it was executed well, took its time to build the setting while introducing supplementary world building and ended pretty well. If we're talking about stories in modern JRPGs, Trails in the Sky is up there and has most beat.
>>336894000
Good the less mainstream Persona becomes the better.
>>336908147
>Fire Emblem goes mainstream
>/v/ now hate it
>Persona goes mainstream
>/v/ now hate it
and the cycle continues
>>336908085
There is no way to play it undubbed, therefore it cannot be better than anything by definition.
The forced dub meme by atlus needs to end
>>336908258
Fire emblem Fates doesn't have an undubbed option and that was considered better than a couple of things.
>>336908134
>Modern
>Literally from the years 2004 and 2006 respectively
>>336907449
It's there for fast and stylish gameplay, are you faggots just alergic to fun?
>>336907449
>"use what they're weak to" gameplay
but that's literally what 90% of RPGs have
>>336908383
Pretty much in the same timeframe as Persona 3 and 4. JRPGs released after the latter half of the 6th gen can be considered modern
>>336908452
>Fast and stylish
>P4
????????
>>336908452
>using the sam "tactic" over and over is fun
How the fuck is selecting an attack from a menu fast and stylish?
>>336908573
P3 & P4 are garbo too, though.
And really, it was literally two gens ago. Hardly something anyone would call modern.
>>336908564
>but a lot of games do that so can't be bad!
>>336908680
>P3 & P4 are garbo too, though.
prove it
>>336907628
Nocturne and make sure to play Hard
>>336908737
Are you saying that Final Fantasy is bad?Good, because Lightning returns was horseshit
>>336908147
>the more popular something is, the worse it becomes
>>336908742
>Snoozeass social links
>Literal weebfest completed with honorifics, waifufaggotry to the max, Japanese high school setting
>Boring stories
>P4 protag is complete Gary Stu whom everyone wants their slice of because he's just that fucking perfect
>P3 on the other hand has shit tired status, boring dungeon and AI controlled party members
>Gameplay isn't special in any way
What's so good about them?
>>336894000
Just give up now, it doesn't get much better.
>>336908257
>/v/ is one person
>>336909025
the ai control isn't really a problem though
>>336902869
>jrpgs must follow this formula I like or else they're shit
Persona 4 is fucking terrible and only degenerate weebs like it. Absolutely disgusting
>>336908680
And yet people still use Persona 3 and 4 as basis when talking about JRPGs. Right now you have what? Atelier, Neptunia, Tales, Persona and FF as frontrunners of JRPGs.
Atelier is niche as fuck, and while it has good gameplay it usually isn't counted because of the stigma connected to lolis. Neptunia is only good for fanservice, even if they did improve gameplay gradually throughout its run. Tales has never been good after Vesperia, maybe outside Hearts R and arguably Xillia 2 in terms of gameplay and story respectively, and is now banking on Berseria due to Zestiria's failure. FF is in its final gambit, if XV isn't good, expect it to go out in a whimper. Lastly you get persona, it may be 2 gens old, but as I've said, it's still held up as a sort of standard, regardless if you think it's good or bad.
That said, the point is Trails in the Sky has great world building and story compared to most JRPGs
>>336909082
It's a completely unnecessary and stupid mechanic. You can never control them to the full leading into some RNG situations.
>>336909004
That is 100% true now kill yourself for using a literal tumblr image.
>>336894924
It's only about 40 hours in length, like most JRPGs.
>>336908134
>Kiseki has a great story. The characters are memorable and most of them have great banter.
Which one are we talking about? Because Trails FC & SC had an average at best storyline and the only really good characters are Estelle and Olivier, the rest are shit.
>>336908614
Great soundtrack and the battles are simple but presented very well so you don't give a shit, at least in 3.
>>336909263
they do exactly as you tell them though? You tell 'em do whatever, they'll do whatever, but when you tell 'em to support, they'll try to support. It's not rocket science
>>336909208
>Lolis
>Atelier
I don't think you've seen much Atelier in your lifetime, family.
Loli Rorona in Meruru (hated decision no less) and Lucille + Katya or whatever merchant girl in E&L are pretty much the only loli in the series when it comes to PS3, PS4 titles at least.
>but as I've said, it's still held up as a sort of standard
Standard of being shit I guess.
>>336909360
So if I tell them to do general action X, will they do the one I specifically have in my mind? The answer isn't a definitive yes.
>>336909270
>being an actual fucking hipster
>>336909398
Anon, I've played Iris through Dusk, if someone told me about Atelier the first impression is always lolis. The point is Atelier will never take off because of this stigma, or cute girls for that matter
Also, you'd probably think Persona is shit, but it doesn't change the fact that it's popular
>>336909025
>Snoozeass social links
Not all of them, i can name a few that were 10/10
>Literal weebfest completed with honorifics
Honorifics do suck
> waifufaggotry to the max
Not that present, you can ignore it completely if you choose
> Japanese high school setting
nothing wrong with that
>gary stu
true
>P3 on the other hand has shit tired status
It's a good mechanic so that you pace yourself instead of rushing in like an idiot
> boring dungeon
I like them, good break from the overused "teleportation tiles and damage floor" shit
> and AI controlled party members
The AI isn't bad if you know how to operate it.
>Gameplay isn't special in any way
It's got some pretty unique things like turning personas into weapons, half-crits, the tired status gives a "high risk high reward" motivation, fusion spells encourage you to keep some personas you would otherwise throw away, arcade and coins sets help you increase persona stats so that personas you like are more viable and last more.
It's not a perfect game, but not bad either
>>336909473
Provided they have the skill, they will do as you ask them. Like say, you tell Mitsuru to Support/Heal -> someone is low on health -> she heals them/ -> someone is not low on health -> Marin Karin/ Mind Charge
>>336909351
So you play the game to watch the same animations and listen to the same track over and over?
>>336909208
Also, KH is infinitely more popular than any of those barring FF.
In Japan you also have DQ as extremely popular one.
>>336909594
Literally where is the first impression "loli" when there's no fucking loli in sight.
>>336909538
>being an actual fucking retard
>>336894000
If you are the kind of guy that was convinced to get something based solely on threads with nothing more intelligent said then "I want to fuck Chie" then I dont know what you were expecting
>>336909672
Look anon, looks like we're having difficulty understanding each other:
I'm saying that Atelier will never take off mainstream or as good as most mainstream JRPGs like FF or Persona because of the stigma associated with cute girls. I know semantics is what were treading here, but the point is as long as Atelier features cute girls doing cute things, it will never take off. It can have lolis, it can have teens, doesn't matter. The entire point I'm making is the mainstream won't take it seriously, even if it does have good gameplay
>>336909765
Isn't that cartoon too mainstream for you? I see it get posted here a lot
>>336909025
The tired mechanic doesnt show up after the first time you go in the dungeon, you can easily complete all the floors available in a month on a single trip after the fifrst few trips
>>336909958
The appeal of Persona is cute girls.
>>336894000
>4 hours in, not a single thing has happened yet
You are supposed to push buttons
P3
>Shit as fuck dungeon that has 280+ floors filled with recolors and cheap ass bosses.
>After killing all the moon shadows, the game has pacing issues
>The AI sucks shit.
>Average combat.
P4
>Party members suck ass. A gary stu, a closet homo, an annoying tomboy, an irresponsible and bland as fuck girl, a brain damaged violent retard, an unfunny piece of shit bear and a fucking slut who wants your cock for no reason.
>Social Links suck ass for the most part
>Pacing is all kinds of fucked up, especially on NG+ when you've seen everything or if you wanna replay the game.
>The combat is still average at best and hasn't really changed that much besides allowing you to control your party members
>Story and humor are terrible.
/v/ has shit taste in vidya, news at eleven.
>>336910053
wrong unless you're playing P3P
>>336909958
Persona isn't really "mainstream" either. Sure it has become bigger but it's far from being actual mainstream.
Even Star Ocean reaches the same kinds of sales and Hell, I think NieR sold pretty well around the same numbers too.
And seriously, Persona is literal weeb central with waifufaggotry as a decent driving force preventing it from becoming mainstream. :- )
>>336910104
Another reason P3P is the definitive version, you can complete dungeons at your own pace.
>>336910084
But you still get to self insert as a guy, and it's appeal is rooted more as a high school simulator with great music than the actual girls. The in-depth waifufagging comes later on. Plus, it changes tones between entries and doesn't put all its egg in 1 basket in terms of the type of people it caters to.
Compare that with atelier where promotional material, cover art and overall aesthetic is cute girls doing cute things and you'd see the difference
>>336910298
>no fusion spells
>can only use one type of weapon
>typos and glitches out the ass
nah m8
There is LITERALLY nothing wrong with honoriffics
>>336910381
has the most qt girl in the series though
>>336910213
It has reached a point where it will when Persona 5 comes out. The first PV having more than a million views in a short time and overtaking fucking Valentine's Day hashtag in Twitter in February the day it came out is already telling.
Will it flop or not? Who knows, but mark my words, the moment it gets featured in shit like Honest Game Trailers, were fucking done
>>336909630
I play it for the mix of genres and unique mood/setting. That's just missing the appeal or oversimplifying the fuck out of it like this whole thread.
>>336910635
You're forgetting Japan's existence as part of views and shit. Not to mention that as I recall, twitter has picked off in Japan.
>>336910675
Well most of the game is watching the same animations and listening to the same tracks over and over. Have fun wasting your time friend
>>336902753
>>336895615
>Be shit at vidya
>Never use Full Assault in Tactics
>Hurr Marin Karin
Nice
Meme
>>336903839
I run the whole dungeon section in one night. Have the MC take one group in, fatigue all, Let them go home and then have the fatigued MC take a second group in.
>>336910954
>Be shit at vidya
>AI-chan please play the game for me
>>336911189
I'll take manual control over AI any day.
But faggots shouldn't complain when the solution to your bitching is already programmed into the game, and you're too lazy to experiment to find that out for yourself.
>>336911307
Don't shitpost with my waifu please thank you
>>336910954
>Use tactics appropriately in the last boss fight
>everything is in balance for 40 mins
>Mitsuru turn to heal my m8s
>She uses fucking Medicine or Peach Seeds instead of Mediarahan
Anyone who likes AI in Persona 3 shouldn't complain about Paradigms in FFXIII, because it's the exact same fucking thing
>>336911385
>because it's the exact same fucking thing
No, FF13's AI was competent.
Just solo the game with the MC, problem solved.
>>336911379
Mitsuru doesn't get Mediarahan
>>336902869
Harshly, but nicely put.
>>336911379
Mitsuru doesn't have mediaharan you fucking retard and peach seeds aren't in P3
go fuck yourself
>>336911537
Then Diarahan. I remember she has at least one end-game healing spell.
>>336911348
If you think me giving you the solution to your problems is shitposting just because you'd rather perpetuate a shit meme that's solution is literally already programmed into the game, then maybe you don't deserve her as your waifu since clearly you didn't listen to her combat advice.
Persona fags got BTFO nicely in here. Good job /v/
>>336911619
>peach seeds aren't in P3
You're quite a retarded one.
>>336911760
But i'm not the guy you were talking to, i agree with you.
>>336911653
The AI will always heal with the best skill/item available, and always the target with the lowest health. It is simply not possible that she didn't heal properly.
also
>relying on mitsuru for healing
>not having her wail on the enemy
there's your mistake
>>336911792
thanksI actually like persona 3 and 4, and can't wait for 5
>>336911896
>not the guy
Every single time. This meme needs to die.
>>336912234
But I'm not the guy you were talking to!
>>336912319
I'm not the guy you were talking to either!
>>336894000
i think everyone agrees that P4 is bad senpai
You really should have started with P1
I enjoyed 3 a lot more than 4 for numerous reasons. Having said that though, the guy saying that games like Radiant Historia were much better is correct. Despite that I don't think p3 and p4 are bad games. They're fairly unique if nothing else. How many other jrpgs have you dealing with anything resembling every day situations? None really. Yeah some of the s-links are tropey garbage, but some of them are fairly interesting. I also really enjoy the time management aspect of it and the sense of dread that p3 had when I played it was great. It always felt like something terrible was coming and I was on a race against time.
So here's a better question.
How is Uncharted a movie game and thusly not a game, but persona series are the best games of all time, yet everyone in this thread has stated they play persona not for gameplay but for story, mood, atmosphere, music, characters, and only tolerate the shit gameplay.
>>336910359
>>336909958
>>336909594
Thank YHVH that Atelier probably never will be all that popular or they might actually start focusing on the combat over the gathering and crafting, that'd be terrible.
>>336908134
The story itself is shit in the TiTs games., anon. You confusing with the game's phenomenal world building and characters which are great even if cliche as fuck.
>>336912693
I, for one, enjoy everything about Persona 3. Persona 4, less so. It's not like it's a hard game, even on the highest difficulty setting, but I keep myself entertained.
>>336895615
>>336902753
Do you guys not know how to change tactics or something?
I mean, I thought that was a pretty cool way of making things more difficult (being able to control your party more and more as time goes on), plus it totally helps with the immersion if you only control one player and that player's death resulted in a game over.
>>336910098
>Story and humor are terrible.
This is one of the most aggravating points of P4. The humor is shit. Or better, the attempts of humor are absolutely shit. Al the "humorous" eventsthe camping, the Tatsumi field trip and the beauty pageantare shitty and cringy as fuck. The only genuinely time I chuckled was in Kanji's SL and some moments with Dojima. The music concert in the Vita version was decent though.
>>336902869
>you just repeat a cycle while suffering through poorly written soap opera scenarios
Isn't that every JRPG?
>>336911307
It's not about that, m8. It's about it being a chore to replay through because even if you know how to knock down shadows your partners will still act like retards and activate reflects or heal the enemy, and having to cycle through each character and change tactics is just not as fun as controlling them yourself and trying different things to beat a boss down in a shorter amount of turns.
>>336913289
>if you only control one player and that player's death resulted in a game over.
Yes, it's such immersion that without a newcomer they completely shit themselves and forget how to use resurrection on that guy.
I can accept that in SMT because you recruit demons but these are fucking normal human beans. And a dog I guess.
>>336913445
>activating reflects or absorbs
not if you scan the enemy first, then they won't do stupid shit.
>>336913445
>activate reflects or heal the enemy
That's literally impossible tho, stop lying.
>changing tactics is just not as fun
Says you
>>336913492
I like to see it as that a shadow dealt a mortal blow to you, rather than being K.O'd like the other characters do
>>336913492
>And a dog I guess.
And a toaster.
>>336912693
The gameplay is still necessary, its just shitty
>>336913668
That too.
>>336913664
But why would the Protag (especially in 4) be so weak?
>>336913882
In P3 I give it a pass because Minato is like super Anemic and tires easily.
I dunno in P4 though, besides, Yu has a lot of meat-shields that can tank hits for him.
>>336913882
I dunno dawg just tell yourself holding the world card brings you closer to death or some garbage.
>>336912693
I don't consider uncharted movie games, they require shooting and shit.
>>336913882
The IT is so retarded they can't do shit without Yu
And in P3Death breaks out of MC and kills everyone
>>336912693
Mix of genres, i.e. gameplay?
>>336914085
>Minato is like super Anemic
wut
>>336914205
look at the fucker and how he acts/ his in-game descriptions. The dude is tired 24/7
>>336914293
M8 he's the best in the school in whatever sport he chooses
>>336914378
In the beginning of the game he isn't, he's just a tired teen that sleeps all day and doesn't give a shit
>>336914495
>he's just a tired teen that sleeps all day and doesn't give a shit
In your playthrough, maybe.
in mine he's a tough motherfucker
What would you shadow say?
>>336914495
Just like all of us.
>>336914591
"You're fucked up, you know?"
>>336914580
That's NG+ for you
>>336914591
nothing i'm literally perfect
>>336914591
"Why am I even here"
>>336902869
This, Persona is fucking shit and it's only underage kids who grew up with it that shill it here.
>>336914591
Probably just razz me for being accepting on the outside but a bit of a judgemental prick on the inside. I'm working on it though.
>>336914909
I actually got into it last year and I like it. Too bad you can't join the fun.
>>336914591
"Stop running away and fight for your dream."
>>336914591
'howdy'
>>336914909
You can stop quoting your own post now.
>>336915424
I like you
>>336894000
>Lack of attention span
>Hating on based Dojima
>Hating on your lil sis
>Meme
Wew lad, I guess pewdiepie generation is really cancer no matter how you cut it.
>>336912053
>It is simply not possible that she didn't heal properly
Apparently it is, you fucking AI shill. Her own health apparently is more important to her, and if damage done is low enough, she was trying to heal herself with lowest quality item possibly, completely ignoring the team in the process. Why do you think she uses marin karin when there are ice-weak mobs present? AI is poor coded shit.But it is more fun to have this kind of bullshit happening in hour-long battle somehow
>>336915475
Nice meme post.
>>336915559
thanks
could also go with 'now neither of us will be virgins'
>>336915629
>ice-weak mobs
>not going for Knock-Down tactic
>expecting her to knock them down in Support/Heal
you dumb motherfucker
>>336894000
don't talk like that senpai
Persona is pretty shit I actually like P1 more than the other games.
>>336894000
You have shit taste OP, fuck off and never comment again.
Go take your ADD drugs and buy a sturdy rope
>>336914591
>You like having secrets more than having people around you. You don't want people to aknowledge you as human you would rather be some kind of alien to them.
>>336917098
looks like you need to be more honest, fampai
>>336894000
>Why do people shill this shit so hard?
Weeaboos man.
>shitposting how PC will never be able to play the upcoming masterpiece that is supposed to be persona 5
Really? Why would anyone be bumped about something like this? All Persona games have been garbage so far.
>>336917098
That hits a bit close to home.
Do people really have an issue with the tired status? I've been playing through FES for the first time and I just got Shinji. I haven't gotten tired once since the first month and tactics are really fucking easy to use and get the results you want.
>>336917658
It's almost as if some people are stupid
>>336895735
explain
>>336916365
This. P1 is overall a very good game. Good gameplay, good dungeon crawling, good OSTboth the PS1 and the PSP versions, excellent atmosphere, likable characters and a good but slightly crazy story.
>>336908348
>that was considered better than a couple of things.
It's better than
>Awakening
>Fire Emblem 1
>having your dick clamped off
>being thrown in an iron maiden
>Kingdom Hearts
But better than FE2-12, it was not.
>>336908348
It does have an undub version, actually.
>>336918579
>better than
>>Awakening
That's hardly a challenge though.
>>336915424
>>336915840
She was not in Support/Heal when she used Marin Karin, you dumbfuck. Only time I put her in heal was the last boss fight.
>>336919290
>expecting her to knock down enemies when she's not in Knock-Down
u still dum muthafucka
