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Is this the best boss in the game? I don't mean the hardest, but the best style and music. Just listen to that score:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFRaZs6ri7s

Hardest boss is something like Nameless King right? Or Pontiff?
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>>336893105
Yhorm has the best music. Too bad that fight is trash.
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>>336893298
Yeah that was pretty great as well. I think it was made to make you feel like a badass, especially with your buddy Siegward helping you out.
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What's with Miyazaki and feminine boys?
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>>336893105
This fight was by far my favorite mainly because it was the most visually thematic. I loved how the story and relationship of the two brothers was visualized in their movement and design. Fucking genius I say.
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Not sure I liked this boss. The entire encounter gave me that yaoi vibe.
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>Tfw you realize Lorian is a literal retard
>Tfw Lothric didn't wanna become a Lord of cinder so that he could take care of his brother.
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>>336893105
It would be infinitely better without choir, just violin only. Still one the best theme in DS3.
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>>336895262
maybe because you're gay son
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The teleporting was disorienting as fuck. Never quite got used to it - didn't really like the boss. I can see the appeal though.

Ds3 had so many good bosses

>Soul of Cinder
>Abyss Watchers
>Champion Gundyr
>Nameless King
>Dragonslayer Armour
>Ocerios
>Pontiff
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>>336893105
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Who did you have more trouble with, Nameless or this guy?
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>>336896021
Him due to his fucking charge.
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I loved the mid fight cutscene.
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Post your favorite autistic soulsbourne boss.
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>>336896021
Beat this guy first try. Nameless raped me over and over again though.
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>>336894991
Lords in DS1: Skeletal monster, albino dragon with unique design, BED of chaos, 4 extremely deformed kings
Lords in DS2: bunch of corpses, giant spider, balrog and woman so ugly, you should with her in the dark room.
Lord of Cinders: 2 ladyboys, legion of furries and bara giant.
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>>336896352
REEEEE GET THE FUCK OUT YOU IGNORANT SLAVE

WHERE'S MY MARY SUE ULTRA COOL DRAGON CHILD
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>>336893105
>best boss
>the linkin park prince
*teleports behind you* This is our graves *charges demon prince killing sword* But you can rest here too if you want *impales you with laser*
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>>336893105
Sorry for randomly dropping in but I'm about to start a Caestus build. I'm comparing the Knight and the Warrior and it just seems like Knight is the best class to start with for the majority of melee builds. Should I go Warrior or just stick with Knight?
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I agree, Banjo & Kazooie are a pretty good encounter.
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Lothric is the one teleporting Lorian
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>>336895359
Why is he a retard? He's just really close with his little bro
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Dancer is actually the best boss and it's crazy how underrated she is
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>>336896781
Because of the curse. This time the literal part is actually, well, literal.
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>>336896816
Dancer fight is beautiful. First time i fought her i was mesmerized by her attacks in the 1st phase. It really feels like a dance.
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>>336895694
Dragonslayer armour would've been so good if it didn't have the two things occasionally shooting shit at you, it ruined the atmosphere of the bossfight when you got like 20 peices of 0 dmg shit flung at you from offscreen. Why couldn't that have just made it a part of his moveset?

Like he does the shitty two hit shield bash then smals it down and does the fire beam himself or something.

Also abyss watchers would've been way better if you couldn't backstab him, he had more hp and it didn't have the first half but instead had a leadup area of weaker abyss walkers like the massive bridge before the prince and then give it a few more moves. As it is, it's mostly just chain parry/backstab.
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>>336896816
>Pope to dancer
>"Y'know, you should try spinning. It's a good trick."
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>>336897091
Your ideas are so shit its unbelievable.
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>>336893105

Artistically it's pretty fantastic.
Mechanically it is fucking retarded, as is the case for any boss that uses teleportation mechanics
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>>336893298
>Too bad that fight is trash.
For me it was great because I was too stupid to figure out how to use the Stormruler. Even though I knew about the sword from DeS, I didn't think to charge the weapon art to its maximum power, so I thought you had to upgrade the weapon first, but didn't want to use titanite scales to do that.

Moveset wise he isn't that difficult so it becomes a battle of perseverance. That way you also get to experience his Ember form attacks more, plus you can also break his poise and perform an actually damaging riposte to his face like you can do to Nameless King's dragon.
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>>336897091
Those things are controlling it, it's just an armor.
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>>336897315
What where those things anyways?
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>>336893105
Anyone else put out the fire and then feel bad about beating the twins?

Also did the firekeeper steal my eyes wtf is that ending anyways? I was expecting serpent party.
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>>336896021
The champ, nameless took me 3 tries and the champ 7-9.
Never got used to his fast punch and dash
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>>336895694
He pretty much just teleports behind you for lunges. Sometimes he'll port twice if you keep rolling but it's usually to try to get behind you.
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>>336897427

Pilgrim Butterflies, otherwise known as the guys who were travelling around with those turtle shells on their back.

They do that mainly to keep the Dark from creeping up from their shadow and taking them over to produce the Pus of Man, but have an ace in the hole regardless that may or may not work: they put a seed from a tree inside of their dark sign, embedding it within themselves, because trees are seen as the form of life to them, or something just as spiritually symbolic

They die, regardless, and from that the tree blooms from their person, mixing and bending with the Abyssal shit within them to produce those Pilgrim Butterflies, whom are heavily implied to be "angels" to the fat guys in the armors, though I don't think its that explicitly stated
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>>336896021
>champion is hard
please stop spreading these lies
I went in thinking it was going to be the fight of the game and it was pathetic
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>>336897453
Yes, I was pretty confused that with End of Fire ending I still should beat 2 cripples.
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>>336897427
"Pilgrim butterflies." The things that the tree people on the high wall are growing into. Also apparently the "cocoons" are the turtle shell things on the backs of the guys in the opening cinematic.
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>>336897453
You gave her the Firekeeper Eyes you found in the dark version of Firelink Shrine, not your own eyes.

Ending explanations:
Link the Fire = Link the Fire 2.0
End of Fire = just fuck the world's shit up senpai (with the possibility of something new being in the future?)
End of Fire where you kill the Firekeeper = same as previous but with Dickhead Asshat Extraordinarie flavor
Usurpation of Fire = Dark Lord 2.0

I sure hope DaS3 does DaS2:SotFS again and provides one more new ending, because I didn't feel like any of those were a proper "finale" to the series.
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>>336896816
Agreed. I'd put Twin Princes and Abyss Watchers up there too but Dancer was well done overall.

>>336896352
Pic related
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>>336897831
Then how come DSP took 69 tries to beat him. He's a good way to measure how hard a boss is to the average gamer right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8zQxxTXqgo
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>>336897191
How so?
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>>336898138
Considering how he plays MGS3, no, he's below average.
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Why was the soul of cinder trying to stop you?
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>>336893105
>>336893298
Are you guys retarded?

Dragonslayer armor has the best music and style, and it wasn't piss easy or a gimmick fight.

Just listen to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy2OCRmxVAY
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>>336898201
For the armor see this >>336897315 >>336897776

Now you would change abysswatchers from free for all unique battle to generic boss with mobs guarding him.
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>>336898278
Same as Gwyn probably. Testing your strength (a strong soul is required for the Kiln) or preventing you from ushering an Age of Dark. Gwyn was most definitely hollow when you met him and thus insane, and I'm not sure if Soul of Cinder is even sentient since its an amalgamation of souls of the previous fire linkers.
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>>336898138
>gundyr charges
>"what the fuck i didn't do anything"
exactly, fucking retard
is there any hope of this guy beating soul of cinder?
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>>336898330
>and it wasn't piss easy
Anon...
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>>336893105

I honestly didn't like the boss as much as I should have because I had to get through a fucking million ganksquads as well as a bastardization of the lead-up from 1-1 to get to these fucking assholes each time.

On top of that, the teleporting is less impressive as much as it is absolutely fucking unneeded. After reading the lore and shit, I get why he would need to teleport to move and shit, but it's also kind of silly as to why he's another boss that's just a human figure pushed into a lower position and is crawling around, but every time I saw him use his legs, it just got fucking silly because I kept asking myself, "why don't you fucking stand up, then, you retard."

At least he has the common decency to not have combos that last for fucking days just for the sake of catching you off-guard because the exposure to it is literally so tedious that you want it to get it done and over with faster, like Soul of Cinder and Pontiff. Then again, I didn't really get that much experience with it because I was sick and tired of fire chip-damage to the point of where I just ended up pushing his shit in from behind.

It was an okay boss, but I don't really get why too many people liked it. Maybe I was just feeling annoyed upon fighting it and that detracted from the overall experience, but I still just don't find it too memorable at all.

I found it really disappointing that the only humanoid boss fight that I really really enjoyed was Dragonrider because he actually had such beautiful combos and such a goddamn impressive arena on top of it. The Pilgrim Butterflies often missed us both in our fight, so it just lit up the arena and made it fucking mesmerizing.
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>>336898636
>because I had to get through a fucking million ganksquads
You know there is an elevator shortcut and you don't have to fight a single enemy to get to them right?
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>>336898636
>why don't you fucking stand up, then, you retard
Because he is a retard
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>>336898636
Anon there was a shortcut right before the boss room that led back right before to dragonslayer armor.
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>>336898761

God fucking christ, there's so many goddamn shortcuts.

Here I was thinking the ones before the stairs leading up the boss room were the last.

Fucking christ, I need to play through it again.
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>>336898636
I think the idea is that both brothers are in some way accounting for each others weaknesses

Lorian acts as a bulwark for lothric, with the brute strength and rapid attacks, whereas the defenceless lothric moves him around accounting for the lack of mobility, while also providing range attacks

I like that this changes up a 2 boss fight for the better

The reason he get's up every once is to further emphasise the fact that he's almost falling over as he tries to hit you
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>>336898385
Fair enough on the dragon armour, I didn't know that, I still don't like the shitty bead attack that comes from offscreen though, it just ruins the feel of the fight. The fire attack is super cool though, and it almost never hits you so it just makes the fight seem cooler.

I didn't like the first stage, you just parried him twice, ran around until the third one spawned and killed him before it died.

It really punished you for having a shitty weapon and forced you to play super defensive if you didn't have decent stamina to get away from them after a parry.

I've always liked the one on one fights with something that doesn't that don't have cheese in them. Artorias is my favorite boss by far, followed by the second last boss fight from god hand and then the lady from the clocktower in BB. The one on one fights always feel the best, having your concentration ruined by 40 dmg coming from offscreen is just plain annoying and it doesn't play to the strengths of souls combat.
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>>336897776
I'm pretty sure that the angels are referring to Primordial Serpents. There's a statue of one with wings near the Dragonslayer Armor Bonfire.

>>336898636
There's a shortcut man, there's always a shortcut.
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>>336898875
>not exploring everything before going through fog walls/obvious boss rooms
only yourself to blame. It wasn't even that hidden.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT-E_DTA8Q8
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>>336893298
If you do it right, with the Onion Knight, it's pretty fucking fun.
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>>336898909
>and rapid attacks
Tbh, he is pretty slow.

This fight reminded me of Artorias. Not gameplay-wise, but I`ve got similar "I want to see this guy in his prime" feelings.
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>>336893568
>>336899223
>Siegward walks in
>Oh ok he gotta kill his friend
>He gets killed really fast while I figure out the Storm Ruler
>Doesn't show up again next time I go in
>Have to kill Yhorm for both of us
that was fucked up, even more when I went back there and found his armor
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>>336898909

In a whole lot of cases, I was probably really annoyed with the boss battle to never really get the good parts of it instead of the bad, since I had to end off what was actually a cool fucking area with millions of ganksquads out of nowhere.

It's not like I don't respect them as a part of lore, since I understand that the Lothric bloodline basically utilized and fucked with their souls to produce a jerry-rigged manner to linking the fires, so to speak, which goes nicely into why they see their area as a grave, since at this point they're basically being siphoned for shit and trying their best to get by on what little they have but it was just a weird way to introduce a boss, since the concept of humanoid bosses in slouched positions never really got to me as it did for most other people.

Except for maybe Vordt. Vordt was fucking crazy cool, in my opinion.

>>336898969
Yeah, I noticed those, as well as some statues in the Cathedral of the Deep but I didn't really think them as the Primordial Serpents until later on. Brings up a lot of questions overall.

I hope they elaborate on how those guys tick and did what they did other than just for the sake of manipulation. It'd be a pretty nice DLC to have to go through all that information and shit.
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>>336899654
He tanked the dude for me in my go, we alternated between blasting him and distracting him.
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all boss music sounds the same in this game
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>people rate Abyss Watchers highly for difficulty
>every run including my first I go crazy farming all the gear and upgrade materials I want since you've basically got everything after Vordt all the way to the bonfire past the darkwraiths after the big door in Farron Keep completely open
>usually do quite a bit of pvp and pve in the Undead Settlement, Crucifixion Woods and Farron Keep as well so I have boatloads of souls to level with
>combine that with having gotten gud at Artorias by doing him at SL10 more than once and Abyss Watchers are a cheese every time
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>Implying Souls bombastic choirs are ever good

Only times they've been anything other than unremarkable are with the Abyss Watchers and Bloodborne's Main Menu theme. Souls music is so painfully average in general.
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>>336900010
t. someone who browsed and shitposted in countless Souls music threads but has never actually played them
>>336900010
t. someone who browsed and shitposted in countless Souls music threads but has never actually played them
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>>336899654
>go into boss fog with him, thinking the same thing
>I end up letting him try and kill his friend, helping him, don't really understand that the Stormruler's nearby
>Sieg fucking dies in the battle
>get the stormruler and kill the boss, only to realize he could of lived if I had noticed earlier
>favorite NPC dies because of me

This shouldn't have made me feel as bad as it did.
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>>336899987
Ass Watchers have far too little health to be a serious threat, and the fact that they can be parried, backstabbed and stunlocked just adds insult to injury.

I really like it as a boss though, and doing it before Crystal Sage makes it a bit tougher, especially if you haven't been leveling Vigor that much.
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Underrated boss, fighting him is different than the other melee bosses since he's a wizard but he's hardier and more challenging than any other caster boss. And his design is awesome.

Prince Twins are overall my favorite, but he's a close second for me.
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>>336900178

But I've played them all, multiple times each. I've posted twice complaining about Souls music, and one of those threads was a general "post your favorite track of a game". If you're curious, it was the Fool's Idol theme from DeS.
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What's your personal God Tier boss list?

For me it's gotta be:

>Artorias
>Sir Alonne
>Fume Knight
>Ivory King
>Darklurker
>Ludwig
>First Hunter
>Nameless King
>Abyss Watchers
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>>336900359
I knew there was something else, I always wind up doing the entire Cathedral of the Deep beforehand as well, loads of large shards so I wind up with a +5 at least weapon going in
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>>336900394
wtf aldrich is a woman?
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>>336900482
false king
artorias
kalameet
manus
ornstein and smough
fume knight
ivory king
sir alonne
orphan of kos
ludwig
ebrietas
nameless king
abyss watchers
pontiff sulayvahn
twin princes
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>>336900482
O&S, Artorias, Mirror Knight, Papa G, Logarius, Pontiff, Twins and Soul of Cinder.

I fall into dudes with weapons meme.


Didn`t play DS2 dlcs and currently raped by Ludwig in OH.
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>>336900482
>All dudes in armour
Well, at least you're consistent.
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>>336900394

>friend tells me about Aldritch and how much bullshit he is
>play against him after running into the fogwall
>all those projectiles that go well together
>O&S's room with all that atmosphere of the derelict Anor Londo

It only took me two tries to kill him, but fuck I wish I had more difficulty so I could experience fighting him again. He was a blast.

The only bad part to the entire thing was how there was all those Cathedral of the Deep enemies littering the fucking floors leading up the boss room right after you just got done looking at your favorite giant blacksmith bro dead on the ashy floor of a great castle you visited before

If there's one fucking thing that could be considered missed potential, it was the ability to utterly fuck with players and make them uncomfortable and nostalgic as they went up to the familiar areas they walked on before so long ago.
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>>336900757

Those are the best bosses, though. Big generic demons and animals are always awful because 9/10 you just stand next to them and half their repertoire sails over your head.

>Ludwig
>guy in armor
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>>336900757
Dudes in armour are the fucking best, I never understood this meme.
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>>336900394
The thing is, if he never does his Darkmoon Bow attacks, he's an absolute cheese, and if he decides to spam them you might as well just stand still and try again with all your estus back.
Pontiff, Nameless King and Soul of Cinder can be tricky but they feel challenging and rewarding too. Aldritch's difficulty is almost entirely luck based.
Great design though I agree, I figured from the intro cinematic he'd be an amorphic blob kind of like the Phalanx from Demon's Souls. Noticing Crown of the Dark Sun and realising it was Gwyndolin's torso, then realising I had been dodging his skittles the entire fight was on par with picking up Stormruler and the Artorias phase of the Abyss Watchers
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>>336900646
>She
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>>336900997
>she
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>>336900482

>DeS

False King, that blind warrior in Shrine of Storms.

>DaS

All of the bosses of the DLC, O&S, Quelaag, Sif, Four Kings.

>DaS2

All of the bosses of the DLC, except for the optional areas and the fucking sabercat of Eleum Loyce (after beating the twin sabercats I want NOTHING else to do with these fucks ever again), Vendrick (dat music), Velstadt, Throne Watchers, Lost Sinner, the poison medusa and Duke's Dear Freja (I really liked the spiders in that game for some reason)

>DaS3

Abyss Watchers, Dragonslayer Armor, Nameless King, Soul of Cinder, GUNDYR BITCHES FAVORITE BOSS IN THE ENTIRE SERIES, Sulivahn.

>Bloodborne

All of the Hunter bossfights, Orphan, Amygdala, Logarius and Shadows of Yharnam. I really didn't like the flaily beasts in Bloodborne, more annoying to fight than difficult. I wish Ludwig's fight consisted solely of his second phase.
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surprise of surprises, OP appreciates the style of the literal closet fag who refuses to get off his knees
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>>336893105
The boss felt so weak and flaccid. It feels even worse after just beating a great boss (Dragonslayer) and grinding through a large area, to fight fucking Tweedledee and Tweedledum.

Plus, for being the second to last boss there was absolutely no build up. at least with the other lords you had some build up.
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>FUCK my words
What did he mean by this?
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>>336897776
>abyssal shit

please stop
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>>336898636
>1-1
>not 1-3 + 1-4

you can't appreciate anything, not my fucking problem
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>hear about people complain and complain that Abyss Watchers was hard
>never get summoned for it
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>>336900482
Only god

DeS
>Storm King
>False King Allant
>Old Hero
>Tower Knight
>Adjudicator
>Maneaters
>Maiden Astraea
>Penetrator
DaS
>Biggie and Smalls
>4 Kings
>Artorias
>Manus
>Sanctuary Guardian
>Sif
>Priscilla

DaS II
>Raime (Fume Knight)
>Ivory King (otherwise known as how to make the Penetrator boss fight one of the most memorable mob bosses in the entire series)
>Demon of Song
>Velstadt
>Nashandra
>Elana
DaS III
>Gundyr (both Iudex and Champion)
>Curse-Rotten Greatwood
>Aldritch
>Dragonslayer Armor
>Nameless King
>Crystal Sage
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>>336899654
>>336900192
I'VE FAILED... AGAIN. I CAN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT
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>>336900482
>>336900737
>>336901065
Alonne seems to be universally loved. I hate that fucker, if only he didn't have bullshit hitboxes
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>>336900482
>DeS
False King, Flamelurker
>DaS
O&S, Arty, Kalameet, Manus
>DS2
Fume, Alonne, Ivory, Darklurker
>BB
Abhorrent Beast, Orphan, Gherman, Ludwig
>DS3
Pontiff, Nameless, Soul of Cinder, Champ, L&L
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>>336900482
O&S, Artorias in DLC
Only fight in 2 I liked was Sihn
Ludwig in DLC, Gascoigne & Ebrietas main game.
Nameless King in all aspects.
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>>336901604

I don't remember a fat fuck piece of shit cockblocking me at every opportunity just before the boss fog, dog.

Neither do I remember a bullshit dragon that breathes death and destruction on you wherever you go.

Now, if we're not talking about the very top of Lothric Castle after the Dragonslayer boss fight, then Yes, that entire area screamed Boletaria to me. They also somehow managed to surpass Fat Officials with those armored fat fucks with the angelic pillar Miracles
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>>336902223
The fat officials were the Evangelists in the Undead Settlement, not the winged knights
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>>336902223
>Neither do I remember a bullshit dragon that breathes death and destruction on you wherever you go.
There were two, one of which was just laying about until it decided to attack (blue drake, right dragon after Dragon Barracks bonfire) and the other which had dogged you throughout the area (red drake, left dragon that flies up from the high wall to fuck your shit up).
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>>336898476
Soul of Cinder was much easier compared. Champion, Pontiff and Nameless are the hardest bosses in the game.
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>>336902668

>Now, if we're not talking about the very top of Lothric Castle after the Dragonslayer boss fight

Anon, I remembered.

>>336902495

Oh lord, do I know. I nearly had a fucking heart attack when I first saw them.

I meant that in a way that they're just as annoying, though, which goes hand in hand with how I said they "somehow managed to surpass Fat Officials,"
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>>336896021
>PC crashes when I'm two hits away from killing him
>Get him the second time

He's designed to punish people who can't time their rolls and panic roll a lot.
Pretty fun fight though.
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>See people complaining about Champion, Pontiff and Dragonslayer armor being difficult
I beat all three of them on my first try
Dragonslayer was boring af
Pontiff was cool but his Stand was useless
Champion was baller from start to finish but he's too easy to dodge

Conversely it took me like 15 tries to get past Aldrich and the BingoBangoBrothers took me a couple
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>>336901482

"Rise... If you wood!"

Some gay FROM SOFTWARE Fujoshi shit writing gook thought this was acceptable? Fucking yaoi fanfics? Seriously, SJWs have ruined gaming, DS3 is a mistake.
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the bosses in ds3 are gay as fuck according to vaati in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz8KJYpRh28
personally, i think there should have been some more optional bossess with actual health bars
like, instead of 3 stray demons and an old demon king boss fight,
the other three demon bosses from DS1 should have been subbed in for the 3 ashy ODK clones
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>>336901975
>>336901801
>tfw Darklurker never even split for me when I fought him
Why though

Also, Velstadt is cool as fuck. He just needs to be more aggresive, honestly
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>>336895694

Interesting note:

Lothric is the one teleporting Lorian around
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>>336903087
Are you new here?
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Does Oceiros have anything to do with the twin princes since he was king of Lothric once?
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>>336903436
I imagined their relationships like this
>cuck king who receives two pussy sons who won't link the Fire, despite the entire family's obsession with magical eugenics and producing proper heirs
>Oceiros turns to Dragon fuckery and wants a worthy child of Dragons who is a worthy heir to him and goes mad in the process of researching furry shit
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>>336903436
maybe he's their father
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>>336904807
I imagone everyone got pissed at oceiros being a giant weirdo and agreed to let him ramble on for eternity in his garden
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>>336894991
mommy issue,
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>>336896750
>caestus build
YOU
SORRY
FOOOOOOOL
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>>336905920
I decided to go with Knight. Just got to Farron keep for shards and besides the low damage it's kinda fun. Can't wait to regret this
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>>336893105
First time in a long time that I've felt like I might be on the wrong side of history. The music played a big part of it too, it felt very dramatic and fatalistic. Too bad it was a bit too easy.

The Dancer certainly was king in the atmosphere department though. That music was genius.
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>>336904807
>cuck
Get out.
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>>336896750
Ok, here is how you make a good viable caestus build.
>you equip it in left hand
>you equip hornet ring
>you get respectable weapon
>you spam parry
There is no other way to play with daggers/fists.
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>>336906145
My second run was a faith build so I know all about regret.
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>>336906406
I don't PvP

>>336906725
Pure faith or mostly faith?
Either way I"m impressed you didn't kill yourself
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>>336895694
Soul of Cinder may be the best fight in ant DS game.
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>>336896816
I'd like it more if the Xbox One could handle it well enough to keep it from lagging.
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>>336907193
then you are golden. Fists are pain only because of rolling.
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Lothric is a trash bossfight. Its literally a 10 minute long poke match. Unlike Yhorm or a lot of other bosses, he teleports, and teleports even more in second phase, so you can't position yourself for shit against him.

Its like Dragonslayer Armor: Its a great fight if you got a summon, just so its no longer a poke match
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>>336896021
Gundyr will only charge if you are too far away. The movment you double light roll after a attack, is a free heal. On the top of that, he can be parried, so he is literally a bitch.
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boss music is all good and dandy and stuff. but i really love this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYhbmugFd2Q

i cant stop listen to this dope shit
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>>336908346
You finally proved us that you fit in. Now we can laugh at casuls together. Let us remember this day, that anon finally fit in for a long time to come. Also to all you casuls ITT right now, git gud >:^)
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>>336907193
Quality/Faith. I'm currently at Aldritch and I decided to go and murder Emma so I could raid Consumed King's Garden for Titanite Chunks. I'm doing piss poor damage and I can't believe i thought this would scale well in any way. I want to go hit up Rosaria but I'm also trying to do Sirris' quest
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>>336908346
>enemies use a gap closer when far away
>humanoid boss can be parried
It's almost like that thing that's a safe bet is so for a reason
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>>336908884
>quality
>bad scaling
After hollow/bleed literally the best damage. What the fuck are you saying? I bet you will be using buffs and shit too.
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>tfw 3v3ing random invaders with cosplay builds
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>tfw you roll a blunt with nameless king
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>>336896750
There's a build calculator somewhere on the internet where you plug in your ideal stats and soul level and it tells you which class to pick.
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>>336902676

I didn't find pontiff very hard on my first play through
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>best music
>twin princes, yhorm, abyss watchers, dragonslayer armor
>not a single mention of OOOOOH, AAAAAH, OOOOOH AAH OOOOOH

shame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIX_-AMuAhY
the wind instruments during the end of the first minute and later on give it a warcraft 2 ost vibe

also, dancer ost + fight, the fight was mentioned ITT, but the violins fit it so good it still gives me shivers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3xQga-2LX4
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>>336902676
Champion can be parried.
Pontiff can be parried.
Nameless is a 10 minute poke match, except some of his moves allow you to empthy your stamina bar hammering him.
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I hope Ocelotte makes an appearance in the DLC
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>>336910672
mild reee
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While we are on the subject of good bosses, I think Aldrich has my favorite lore of all.

>hear all about this Aldrich dude devouring gods and shit
>keep this in mind as I enter Anor Londo
>"huh, it's Al- HOLD ON IS THAT FUCKING GWYNDOLIN WOW BUDDY YOU SURE LET YOURSELF GO HUH"
>as I'm fighting him, I start noticing how weird and puppet-like his movements are, and how ominous his music is.
>look at his name again
>put two and two together
>oh fuck that's morbid
>kill him as fast as possible

>hours later
>remember how Aldrich does his weird scream when he teleports
>mfw Aldrich doesn't have vocal cords
>mfw that's Gwyndolin screaming
>mfw I have no face
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>>336909230
Quality has bad scaling when you only got 16/16 str/dex
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>>336912952
>Quality
>16/16
Fucking why? Thats not what quality means. Its like saying I am Int/str build because I got 10 str to wield a longsword.
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>>336895262
>not liking the only true form of love
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>>336899297
cue DLC where you cripple the poor elder prince
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I have a special place in my heart for the Soul of Cinder boss theme.
I wish he was beefier and stronger though.
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>Pilgrim Butterflies, whom are heavily implied to be "angels" to the fat guys in the armors, though I don't think its that explicitly stated
Not a theory I've heard before. Interesting and definitely possible, but if there is any such implication I didn't see it. Plus, the Pillars of Light miracle and the prevalence of feathers around anything associated with the angels didn't really scream 'flying tree monsters' to me.

>>336898969
>>336899683
Now see when I first saw the Primordial Serpent statues in Lothric Castle I thought 'oh shit the angels must have been the serpents!' But then thinking on it, it doesn't make too much sense - the angelic faith was heretical and wasn't supported by any of Lothric's three pillars of rule, so why would statues pandering to the faith be so prevalent in the castle?

Rather, I think the statues are of Fraampt, or another serpent on the side of light, who visited the royalty of Lothric long ago, and told them it was their duty to produce heirs to link the fire - hence why they're so obsessed with it.

I actually didn't notice the statues in the Cathedral of the Deep but in my opinion that could mean one of two things:
>The Cathedral of the Deep was once part of Lothric, and as well as telling the royalty to link the fire, Fraampt told them to set a guard on the Deep (which seems to be related to the Abyss in some way), and statues of him are present in the Cathedral as a result
or
>After the Cathedral of the Deep became corrupted and started worshipping the Deep rather than guarding it, they encountered a serpent like Kaathe there, and created statues of him
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>>336898636
>>336899683
>Maybe I was just feeling annoyed upon fighting it and that detracted from the overall experience
>I was probably really annoyed with the boss battle to never really get the good parts of it instead of the bad

This happened to me with Abyss Watchers and Sulyvahn. Abyss Watchers I got impatient and with Sulyvahn I was getting really pissed off with Irithyll in general so I was fed up by the time I got to him, and I ended up summoning for both of them but then regretted it shortly after.
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Has anyone listened to the DLC OSTs yet?
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>>336916032
Is it confirmed as DLC ost? I listened, 2nd theme sounded like twins remix.
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>>336895262
>Not liking fuccboi siblings that love each other.
What is wrong with you?
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>>336916185
I don't think so, but it's ripped from the games files so I'd hope it'd be. They sound too nice to remain unused.

That 3rd theme though, I wonder what great boss it belongs to.
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http://00tn2.blogspot.com/2016/04/dark-souls-3-unused-item-descriptions.html

>Evil Spirit's Soul
The soul of an evil god that possessed the Hero Lord.

Oh boy oh boy, I can't wait for autumn.
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>>336893105
It's the only boss worth a shit in the entire game. This game has the blandest bosses but this one was just perfect on all regards. Music, style, lore, artistic design. Everything was perfect. I enjoyed it way more than Ludwig even. Too bad the other bosses are all trash.
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>>336901698
>Hear about people complaining Abyss Watchers are hard
>Beat them first try because I spent weeks trying to beat Artorias
They literally have the exact same moves I don't know why people found them hard
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>>336909972
Vordt's theme is fucking top notch. That chunky, thick brass really captures how fat and kind of silly looking he is but without becoming comical.

>>336911635
Yeah boy Aldrich and the lead up to him was some fucking PTSD inspiring shit.
>The Silver Knights in Irithyll, the painting of Gwynevere and Smough's hammer making you realise this place is probably built on Anor Londo's ruins
>Reaching the Darkmoon Tomb and thinking 'no fucking way'
>The giant spiral elevator and thinking 'no fucking way'
>ANOR LONDO
>It's frozen and desolate
>Silver Knights still mindlessly performing their duty, possibly controlled by Aldrich
>The dead giant blacksmith
>The beautiful hall now in darkness and ruin
>Enter the boss room
>Woah shit is that Aldrich I thought he was meant to just be a big black blob
>Man I guess that's his body from when he was still a human
>Wait that looks familiar
>Is that Gwyndolin's crown?
>Is this a throw back
>Oh god wait
>His puppet like movements
>His moans of pain
>Finally kill him
>Looking at the lore of all Aldrich's items
>'Aldrich delighted in his victim's screams'
>'Last shudders of life'
>'Slowly devoured the God of the Darkmoon'
>S L O W L Y D E V O U R E D

Gwyndolin had a hard fucking life, man. Raised as a girl; kept hidden; dad dies; city abandoned, left in your dad's tomb with no one for company but a handful of knights, a sadistic executioner, Fraampt and possibly Velka; wait for a thousand fucking years for a plan to save the world to come to fruition - and then either get killed by the fuck you were trying to manipulate, or be forced to face the fact your solution was only temporary, and remain in your abandoned cathedral for thousands of years as the world literally crumbles away around you, the humans you feared build a city beneath you, and their despotic leader eventually captures you and feeds you, alive, to a slime monster.
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>>336916807
>Soul of a giant bat sealed deep under the earth
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>>336916807
>Crown of the old lord who protects the city of the cold valley. Once dazzling, the corruption of the darkness has changed it greatly.

>A consumed finger of the Dark Sun, Gwyndolin. The finger of the brother the half-dragon girl loved has been consumed, and is now only the slightest bit recognisable. Even so, her love for her brother will not change...

Memezaki has massive vore fetish.
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>>336911635
Aldrich is the only boss in the series to make me angry just by viewing him.
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>>336900192
He dies really, really fucking easy.
As soon as the cutscene ended I gunned it to the other end, grabbed the storm ruler and put it on in record time.
Siegward was already dead by the time I equipped it.
Fucker can't take a single hit.
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>>336896021
I fucked this guy up first try, though his kick did catch me off guard every time. Nameless King beat me to the curb. Took me like 15 trys
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>>336917115
Sulyvahn is rad as fuck. But why the fuck did he do it? What was his endgame?
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>>336893105
Champ is the best. Only boss that gave me trouble was old demon king.
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>>336893105
Why were they so gay?

why are there no pictures?
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>>336899048
Yeah, the Bridge was a fucking awesome idea, I was so concerned about saving estus for the Princes that I took it extremely slow...only to realize that by taking an elevator and waiting for a patrol you can skip the entire thing.
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>>336917817
There are some cute ones. Nothing lewd yet, though.
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>>336917456
>conquered Anor Londo
>fed best trap to Aldrich
>jailed Yorshka
>descovered power of the Profaned Flame
>made Gwynevere`s descendant his personal stripper
>turned his knights into mindless beasts

And after all this shit he just become some random hollow with lightsabers. What an anticlimatic ending.
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>>336897776
What the hell is the Pus of Man?
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>>336896561
kek
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>>336895262
>Brothers care for each other
>Must be gay

Bad
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>>336896021
>Didn't use a guide at all for my first playthrough, 100% blind
>Haven't fought him or Nameless because how the fuck was I supposed to find that shit

I guess I should start a second playthrough. I want a dual wield weapon you get early, any ideas? Maybe Dancer's?
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>>336918071
I just want to know why he did it. Maybe he did what he wanted and got away with it and in time hollowed. But what is it he wanted to do or actually did before hollowing? He is so interesting.
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>>336917456
>>336918071
>>336918259
My theory is that Sulyvahn is a human supremacist and/or an agent of the Dark. He believes the Age of Dark will be the Age of Man and wants to see it come about.
>Builds his city on the ruins of the city of the gods (or, if he wasn't Irithyll's founder, takes over rule of such a city)
>Allows Aldrich and his followers to operate in his city - the Deep is quite likely to be some aspect of the Abyss and Aldrich wanted to kill the old gods.
>Goes out of his way to capture one of the old gods and feed them to Aldrich
>Has any child born resembling the old god's brought to his city to be used as slaves
>Forces one of the old god's descendents to be his personal dancer
>Sends Vordt out to stop the Unkindled from getting any further than Lothric
>Sends the Dancer and some other Outrider knights to the castle to kill Emma (who would have probably helped the Unkindled on their quest) and quite possibly the Princes so they couldn't be used as Lords of Cinder

I don't think he was Hollow when you fight him. He was completely sane, and he was attempting to stop you from reaching another Lord of Cinder and linking the flame.
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>>336918071
>made Gwynevere`s descendant his personal stripper
I think I may have missed this item description. Is that Rosaria?
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>>336898478
If you weren't using a straight sword it wasn't
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>>336896816
This
The first phase being difficult because of the odd timing, then getting to the second phase which is just all about rapid fire dodging and positioning for openings. It's fantastic. One of, if not my favorite fight in the series.
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>>336893105
*teleports behind you*
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>>336918423
Rosaria is Gwynevere.
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>>336917817
There are tons of cute pictures on japs/korean sites.

>>336918069
I saw 2 lewd, but it wasn`t enough quality. Somehow, I can`t ship them in lewd way. They are too cute/tragic.
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>>336893105
that's some straight kingdom hearts music

Abyss Watchers was best boss
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>>336918542
Is there a Korean equivalent of pixiv?
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>>336918071
>he became some random hollow
source: your ass
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>>336896021
I actually found Nameless really fucking easy

Two Princes fucked my shit up horribly over and over though for whatever reason.

>get to second phase
>immediately get trapped in a wombo combo and die
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>>336896021
nameless, did champ 1st try

>>336898138
maybe because dsp sucks ass? reminder that he summoned for nameless because he just didn't want Gundyr 2.0. And trust me, it would have melted him much more than 69 times.
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>>336918641
I don`t know, I use twitter for Korean artists.
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>>336918403
I dont think you are right about him being sane. Your reasoning is that he sends dancer and vordt to stop you. Well, that doesnt fit with what we know. Outrider knigts are not his personal buddies. They are exiles, its a way to politically destroy his enemies. He gives them this "privilege" of defending the city froum outside effectively exiling them. But to add insult to the injury, he also gives them rings that makes them not only go crazy, but to transform into a mindless beasts in time.

Both dancer and Vordt are already deformed mindless creatures on their way to become beasts (crocodile wolves). We can see their ghost of the past in irrythril leaving together with other outrider knights and they look normal. So the fact that these two are there is not that they were send now to stop you. They were there a long time just being exiled.

>>336918423
Its the dancer.
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>>336896816
>finally beat the armor after being one shot by it over and over
>expecting an opportunity to bonefire soon because lots of souls on me
>immediately takes me to this boss
>wait what, give me a chance to rest
>beat it no problem first try on one flask

boss was easy as piss
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>>336901873
At second playtrought I'v just charged at this fucker barehanded and agro him while Sigbro finished him with his Storm Ruler. Firs time I wanted to grab the sword and Sig died in two hits. Fuck that. Never again.
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why was he crawling around on his knees though
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>>336897776
you have anything to back that up? It seems you're reaching Vaati tier of retarded speculation.

The seem more chaos to me than dark.
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>>336913254
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>>336893105
This boss was harder than Pontiff and Nameless King for me, the second form just seemed to tilt me.
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>>336918963
>We can see their ghost of the past in irrythril leaving together with other outrider knights and they look normal
Fuck so that's who they were. I knew they were some nobility of Irithyll but never made the connection
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>>336918252
I did the whole game with the sellsword twinblades you get from the mercenary class. I really liked it, they're fast enough that you can attack between combos while rolling
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>>336919095
He was ready to suck Lothric's dick when you barged in, and didn't want to get up
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>>336919095
He's crippled.

From his chest piece:
>Lorian, raised as a knight, is said to have been left mute and crippled by his younger brother's curse. It is also said that Lorian, in fact, wished it so.
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>>336896750
Warrior, otherwise you've wasted points in attunement, int, and faith
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>>336919441
I was thinking about using them on my first playthrough but after testing them I found the L1 dual attack actually did less damage than the normal R1, so what was the point? Does it get better?

I might also go with a heavy 2 handed weapon, but I heard those are shit now. I just don't like using a shield so either is fine.
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>>336918963
The thing is though Sulyvahn would have had to have gone Hollow incredibly quickly but it seems like a rather gradual process. He captured Gwyndolin and fed him to Aldrich, and Aldrich must have only recently arrived because you only just missed him when you got to the Cathedral of the Deep (Anri and Horace also thought he was there, and presumably so does Eygon seeing as he assumes that's where you're going). Plus, nothing ever actually says that Sulyvahn is an Undead.

Yes, Outrider Knights are mindless but that doesn't mean Sulyvahn doesn't use them for specific purposes. Even if Sulyvahn didn't say to Vordt and the Dancer 'yeah you need to stop this one guy, ' it doesn't mean he didn't send them and other knights to Lothric city for the purpose of having them turn into beasts in time to fuck with you (of course, my argument relies on the assumption that Outrider Knights beast out faster than Undead turn Hollow).

>>336919361
Pre-beast Dancer's hips tho
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>>336919361
They are the dog knights with irythrill weaponry, walking straight implying its their selves from the past. There is also one that had dancer armor. So presuming dancer armor is just the outrider female armor. I think the number of ghosts actually match the number of outrider knights you fight + dancer. I dont know about Vordt though.
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>>336893105

Second place after the champ
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>>336900482
I fucking love any boss that really gets in your face and makes it a high speed exchange. That's probably why the BB hunter bosses + orphan are up there in my favorites, with Soul of Cinder and the Champ as recent additions
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>>336919868
I just dont buy it. I dont think anyone actually give a shit about you though. Dancer is weird though. She comes after pontiff is dead and kills Emma. Or she shows up if you kill Emma. What is her deal?
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I think Iudex Gundyr is probably the hardest opening boss in all of Soulsborne.

The Vanguard and the Asylum Demon are both very slow and easily avoided by rolling. The Vanguard's difficulty really comes from his very high damage output as he's pretty much intended to kill you. The Asylum Demon gives you a free drop attack.

Dark Souls 2 and Bloodborne don't really have tutorial bosses. By the time you've reached the Last Giant and the Cleric Beast you've already played through whole levels and are probably quite used to the workings of the game.

Iudex, however, comes after a handful of hollows and a single giant crystal lizard. He's a massive increase in difficulty, he's fast and aggressive, and his sudden mode change half way through the fight can really put you off guard and also forces you to battle the camera a bit.
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>>336919819
The L1 does more damage than the r1 but only by a fourth, thing is both have to hit, which doesn't always happen since one has a longer range than the other when sweeping left to right or vice versa. Also I believe the L1 is faster than the r1
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>>336900394
>he's hardier and more challenging than any other caster boss.
>i can't dodge the arrows the post

Every fucking time , this guy is easy as fuck
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>>336920484
Pontiff is guarding the way to the Twins with her -- anyone who tries to get to Lothric and Lorian gets fucked up by the Dancer (who was apparently a respected enough fighter to warrant getting replicas of the Pontiff's own weapons).

Pontiff loves the Dark, and is trying to stop you from accessing the Lords. To this end, he litters the paths to the Lords with guards. Vordt, the nameless outrider knight in front of the Road of Sacrifies, and the Dancer.
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>>336920386
Didnt play BB but what is with you people saying orphan is a good boss? He is little humanoid with slow hammer like shit who does weird AoE lighting thunder attack in second stage. He looks incredibly easy to dodge. Its just that his HP is so damn high it might be difficult to not make a mistake.
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>>336920386
But soul of cinder is very passive, it constantly backs off and lets you heal without pursuing.
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>>336910672
Requesting the Ocellote frog picture
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>>336893105
Abyss Watchers, hands down.
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>>336920748
You really should play the game before commenting on a boss.
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>>336920484
I'd actually forgotten about the Dancer showing up after you yourself kill Emma. Following on from my other posts, I'd still say she's there to stop you from progressing - even if you kill Emma yourself, taking the basin means you'd be able to get into Lothric Castle, so she tries to stop you. Of course, the flaw with my theory is that it assumes a lot of control on the part of the Dancer and Vordt, but they're mindless so I can't really account for that.

Regardless though, even if you don't agree with me about the Dancer and Vordt being sent to stop you, I think I still put forward a pretty good case for Sulyvahn having some sort of grudge against the old gods - and again, there's not really anything to suggest he's Hollow when you fight him.
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>he thought that Aldrich was hard
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>>336920748
>didn't play game
>dude it's easy lmao
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>>336896021
Killd the champ on my second try once i took stock of his moveset and dodged.

nameless though whupped me good for several tries. then one day i just went in fresh and got him first try.
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>>336901873
I, SEIGWARD OF CATARINA
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>>336920720
Anon, thats your opinion that is supported with no evidence. I am all for theorymaking, but atleast have some basic stone to build on.

The outrider knights are not in your way, they dont care about you. They just chill being real fucking mindless. did you see what I did there?. Only one of 3 is actually in your way and he stops aggroing when you step outside into sunlight.
Vordt was there for a long time as implied that Emma know of him and even have a nickname for him ready.

And what is dancers motive? If it was to stop you from climbing the ladder, she wouldnt bother to kill Emma. If it was to kill Emma, she wouldnt appear if you kill her yourself.

>>336921042
Of course you are right. But never ever. I asked legitimate question though. Care to answer?

>>336921230
I am not saying its easy. Its not because he is damage sponge. But that doesnt make him a good boss battle. Thats why I asked why do people say he is a good boss.

>>336921052
Vordt was just chilling there for a long time. Dancer is just weird. Suly hated the gods, thats safe to say and you are right that nothing says he is hollow, he sure as fuck looks hollow with his ragged clothes.
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>>336896021
Nameless.
I made a SL 59 Ornstein and kept my weapons to no more than +5 for matchmaking purposes.
I wish the first phase didn't exist so I could have properly learned his delayed moveset in the second phase. Also fuck the camera in the first phase
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>>336921369
*dies*
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>>336920748
>didn't play it
>talks shit

The Orphan is a fucking wildman with a yoyo mace. He will fuck you right up in a blink
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>>336900808
didnt early leaked shots actually have anor londo giants? im kind of sad there werent any of those
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>>336893105
I couldnt help but feel that if it wasnt a dark souls game, which pretty much mandates a final boss that has something to do with humanity or the first flame, 2prince could easily have been the final boss in its own right, like, if it was a king's field game and the whole goal was to just reach prince lothric and kill him
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>>336901065
>that blind warrior in Shrine of Storms

Shrine of Storms had the best gimmick fights, Storm King was cool too
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why does everyone whine that DaS2 had too many human bosses but when asked to name top 5 bosses from all soulsborne games they will all be humans?
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>>336919819
>I found the L1 dual attack actually did less damage than the normal R1

That seems to be the case with most dual wielding weapons in this game, at least the ones that I've tried. I don't see the point of them in DaS3, in 2 there was a huge power boost, but in 3 it seems to just be a weaker, but more stylish alternative to your R1
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;_;
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>>336921873
Too much of a good thing, obviously.
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>>336893105
Ugh, you faggots have broken me.
Even though I'm out of a job and shouldn't be wasting money till I get one, I'm fucking buying it.
>inb4 pirate it
I only do that for undeserving games
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>>336921052
Lothric/Irithyll dynamics seems strange.
Lothric roayal family are flame and dragon worshippers (except for twins) and, probably, descendants of old gods.
But Pontiff and his church have obsession with Abyss/Dark/Deep.
I`ve expected strained relations between Lothric and Irithyll, but there is nothing. And possible civil war was between angel worshippers and others.
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>>336921592
we know that Pontiff was secretly a darkfag because his greatsword of judgement states that his true nature is dark as fuck, and that the skill for it casts Dark Magic (I dunno why it actually does magic damage despite this). We also know that he was a fan of the Profaned Flame, which is a fire that's been corrupted by the Dark, since it allows for hollow and dark infusions. Liking the Profaned Flame and liking the Dark are fairly synonymous. And don't forget him growing wings in the 2nd phase of his fight, which echoes the Pilgrim Butterflies (which is an Abyss-fueled transformation), only on a much smaller scale.

We also know that he had some serious fucking beef with the Royal Family, on account of his treatment of Gwyndolin, Yorshka, and the Dancer. Which is further hinting of his dark alignment, since darkfags hold grudges against the Gods.

We also know that Sulyvahn actively dispatched his outrider knights to locations outside of the kingdom. The outrider knights don't need motives, they're insane, the Pontiff just sends them to locations that he wants fucked up, or to spots he wants guarded, and they fuck up everyone who walks past. It just so happens that all of these spots are in chokepoints that Unkindled must pass to access the Lords, which is a-ok placement if you want to stop people from linking the flame.
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>>336921969
:^)
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>>336921873
It's not "human" bosses, it's "dudes in armor". Get your memes right.

And if you can't tell the difference between a boss like Nameless King and the Dragonriders, I don't know what to tell you.
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>>336920520
The hardest enemies in 3 is the enemies that snag your camera.
All the Iudex snake enemies.
The Gaping wolves.
All the Dragons, which is a surprise, because fighting them was really fun in 2.
All the really large bosses, like Yhorm.
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>>336922284
Rest in piece big guy
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>>336921873
Because they're enormous hypocrites that are incapable of telling legitimate criticism and pointless nitpicking apart.
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>>336922195
Dancer is obviously acting conscious and on some kind of agenda. She isnt there to fuck shit up. Vortd on the other hand is there to kill anyone who aproaches his place, guarding it. The rest of outrider knights are probably just mindless creatures who just randomly walked somewhere.
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>>336922518
>Yhorm
>hard
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>>336921592
Are we sure Suly's clothes aren't artistically slashed?
Na fair enough though I hadn't actually noticed that he looked a little tatty while fighting him. He's not dressed in rags though, he still looks pretty regal, so I'd dare say From just wanted to make him look kind of dramatic. I think if Sulyvahn is insane (and again I don't really see much to support it), he's been affected by whatever weird spiritual bullshit has affected the Pontiff Knights rather than the Undead curse.

It's true that Vordt might have just been chilling there for a while. Emma calls him 'the foul watchdog of the Boreal Valley.' To me, 'watchdog' implies that he was there for a specific purpose, and 'of the Boreal Valley' means he's trying to stop people from getting to it. Of course, he could just be a 'watchdog' because he's decided he likes that one room he's squatting in and mindlessly chases people off and 'of the Boreal Valley' is just because he's from there rather than specifically stopping people from gettign there.


>>336922701
The fact that the Dancer and the other two Outrider Knights are actually in Lothric Castle just really screams something intentional to me, and Emma's last words really make me think they were there to kill the princes. Like, fair enough some random Outrider Knight could have decided to make a nest in an abandoned old room beneath a random tower at the end of an underused road, but I really doubt the two in Lothric Castle just sort of, happened to end up there.

And yeah, taking >>336922195 's points, I still feel pretty compelled to stand by my idea of all the Boreal Valley stuff being the result of Suly going out of his way to fuck the Unkindled over.

>>336922123
It's possible Lothric hasn't been there for long. A few item descriptions mysteriously mention the high wall 'appearing.' Even if it has though, what we know about Irithyll seems to suggest they're pretty reclusive and were content in their valley, rather than wanting war.
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>>336922123
There is no NPC that you rescue, but kills others?
Well, yet.
Beyond that its a full bingo.
I love those charts.
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>>336922701
>The black eyes of the Pontiff eventually transformed the Dancer into a beastly creature, her gauntlets fusing with her own hide.
dunno, she sounds pretty fucked-up to me
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>>336922723
Your camera snags in yhorm.
Thats the hardest part of the fight.
He doesn't chain attacks, rest between them for long periods of time, has very telegraphed moves.
Seriously, killing him with a Cartha Roughed bandit knife at +0 is very doable.
The fact he dies to like 6-7 Stormruler hits makes him even easier.
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>>336922123
>>336922873
DS3 also managed to stear mostly clear of
>early game boss becomes a regular mob later.
You fight the other crystal sage but that's it.

Also I can't immediately think of anything for
>TRAGIC NON-OPTIONAL BOSS

And dogs are really easy in Dark 3.
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>>336923027
For me the hardest part was the framerate shitting itself whenever I attacked him with the storm ruler while he was on fire.
Actually framerate was pretty shit for plenty of things in the game, especially lothric castle.
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So, is all of the black goop that covers the floor of Aldrich's room ALSO a part of Aldrich? It says that he softened into sludge, after all
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>>336922872
>they're pretty reclusive and were content in their valley, rather than wanting war

Don`t forget that Lothric`s statue wields Pontiff Profaned Sword. Which especially strange, because Lothric has his own sword, blessed by Emma.

>Pontiff instead of Aldia was Lothric`s mentor, who told him do not link the fire
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>>336923254
>TRAGIC NON-OPTIONAL BOSS
Oceiros?
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>>336923254
>tragic non-optional boss in DaS3
Abyss Watchers
Yhorm
Lothric and Lorian
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>>336923352
>Oceiros
>non-optional
also, "not muh ocelotte" doesn't feel very tragic, since I have no idea who the fuck Ocelotte is
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>>336923254
All the Iodex snake enemies. All of them.
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>>336896021

This nigga's overhyped, got him on my first try.

Nameless King, took me like 30, nigga killed me in two hits.
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>>336893105
When the mute bro comes out of the hole he was hiding from it really creeped me down the spine.
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Is anyone willing to trade me a twin princes soul? I want to make both weapons but don't want to worry about having to do it all over again.
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>>336923256
>Fight Prince Lothric
>Game freezes on load for all the sound clips
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>>336922098
I'm in the same situation and ended up buying it too. It's worth it because you can dump hundred of hours on it.
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