It wasn't that bad
yes we all know
they should have made big boss a girl
I still haven't got past when the Skull snipers attack you, when you're going to get Code Talker.
That part of the game sucks shit and I didn't want to do it.
>>336856116
it wasn't that good either
It was fantastic. It just wasn't as story focused as GZ suggested, but still one of the best shooters ever released
>>336860298
>shooter
>>336856116
Open world was the only bad thing.
>>336856116
No, no it wasn't. It was pretty excellent, actually. Disappointing as fuck, sure. But excellent nonetheless.
>>336860493
yes
>>336857774
CUTE!
>>336860876
>he couldn't ghost the game.
>>336856116
For the absolute final game in a series that is by definition meant to be a thought provoking but linear series? The game that falsely advertised worse than fucking Mass Effect 3 and tried to hide that they'd cut out a third of the story? The game with the 90% desert that gave you the same goddamn infiltration missions over and over again because Kojijew fell for the open world meme and realized halfway through that there was no point to it?
Yes anon, it was that bad. It was really, really, really that bad.
With the exception of the repeat missions in chapter 2, I enjoyed it for the most part.
I don't think it's a game I'll ever replay, though. I've replayed the previous MGS games a few times and still find them fun.
>>336862503
It's the most replayable one in the series though
>>336856116
Fuck you.
>>336861321
it's still an amazing shooter
At least it wasn't as terrible as MGS4.
>>336863274
Which is why the game is bad
It was a great game
It just had so much more potential
>>336863576
nah
Playing it now. /v/ saying it sucks is just /v/ being edgelords once again. Game is excellent though i can see where maybe some people say its unfinished.
I would like to have more areas than just afghan and africa.
animals could have been cool. but theres no variety, its like 4 rodents, 7 snakes/lizards, 2 tortoises, 2 bears, 5 goats, 8 birds. and most are just capture cage things. in africa why not have elephants, hippos, lions, giraffes (i could have sworn i saw a giraffe in a trailer once getting fultoned)
here and there there could have been things added. needs more base colors, more colors for the weapons/vehicles
the development/deployment times are sleazy
I enjoyed it as a game.
Thankfully the story was so sparse that I could just ignore it.
Not bad but incredibly mediocore that I couldn't be assed to keep playing it after I shat on Quiet.
>>336861395
>thought provoking
>MGS
If you've never read a book, maybe.
i miss codec but its been shit since mgs4
>>336858669
literally the best mission
>>336861395
>For the absolute final game in a series
Konami have plans for MGS 6
even before 5 was released.
It really was. It was a gigantic letdown.
>>336858669
You know you can just sneak past them right?
It wasn't bad but The metal gear series has such high expectations and this game did not live up to it.
>>336865169
after finally completing my long backlog of books and going hardcore /lit/ i can finally say with authority people like you have your head up your ass. unless you are reading actual philosophy by actual philosophers like wittgenstein, schopenhauer, etc, then the stories of typical novels are not going to make you think any more than a story of similar quality in other media, nor are the stories all that much more interesting.
i would love to hear what books you have in mind as "thought-provoking", if youve even read them
>>336865429
>i would love to hear what books you have in mind as "thought-provoking", if youve even read them
Goethe, for one.
>>336856116
>the worst videgame in the series
>the most rushed videgame in the series
>the worst story in the series
>the worst character design in the series
>the worst progression in the series
>the worst armament in the series (Metal Gear Ac!d 2 had twice as many weapons and with their real names)
>the worst ending in the series
>It wasn't that bad
The only bearable thing in that shit pile of Kojima's was the voice acting, at least they dropped the awful voice of Hayter, everything else is 2/10
It got drastically worse after Quiet left. You couldn't pay me to play another minute of it.
>>336865291
>Konami have plans for MGS 6
I dont think pachinko games count anon
>>336865518
>the worst story in the series
Did you even play Portable Ops? Or Peace Walker?
Game of the Year 2016, also Disappointment of the Year 2016.
>>336865518
>shaved head since skin surface area is such an issue
>an actual top because people wear those
this will never cease to trigger me
>>336865632
Not him but I'd take PW over MGSV any day. At least PW is a coherent, complete story.
I haven't forgiven PO for shitting on Gray Fox though so I agree with you there.
>>336865632
>Did you even play Portable Ops? Or Peace Walker?
Yes, both of those were pretty relatable to MGS3 story of weird super villains and heroes fighting in the cold war, fuck, even the backstory of the US and Soviet Union fighting proxy wars in latin america was great, unlike the retarded shit of word magic and almost ancient aliens bullshit kojima shitted on 5
>>336865484
what of goethe?
faust
sorrows of young werther?
aside from faust part 2 they are good but nothing that warrants the deifying that goethe and his work and literature in general receive. its not like "wow this is the greatest thing ever i am now imbued with the wisdom of gods" more like "hey that was a neat movie. anyway what am i going to have for lunch"
its been a long time coming but book-obsessed people really need to calm the fuck down. its not any better or worse than other media
>>336857774
>dressing a horse in human clothing
isnt that... like animal abuse or something?
>>336865632
>Dat gay beach scene
WTF Snake
>>336865518
>tumblr
>>336865793
>>336865787
Are you just completely ignoring what it did to The Boss?
>>336864961
>needs more base colors, more colors for the weapons/vehicles
finish the game before opening your mouth
>>336865606
>he allowed quiet to leave him
>>336865518
without using acid, portable ops, babel because it would be too easy
>the worst videgame in the series
mgs4
>the most rushed videgame in the series
doesnt mean anything
>the worst story in the series
mgs4
>the worst character design in the series
mgs4
>the worst progression in the series
story pacing? mgs2
>the worst armament in the series (Metal Gear Ac!d 2 had twice as many weapons and with their real names)
weapons? yeah no this is the best by far
>the worst ending in the series
again, mgs4
also
>a bunch of greentext lines of hyperbole
>""""""argument""""""
Post a picture of yourself im genuinely curious
>>336865889
You say this every time she's mentioned
are you obsessed or something?
>>336865889
Not if the cute horse likes it
>>336865873
But Kojima is not a good writer. His characters don't act like actual people, his dialog is completely unrealistic and filled with parrotspeak, and like many people involved in the videogame industry, he has a child's understanding of narrative complexity.
The only reason people are so attached to The Boss's death in MGS3 is because they played it and thus they had a hand in it. If it was just a movie where you're just an audience watching it happen, it would not get nearly as many reactions of "this is the saddest thing ever". It is emotional manipulation through association, like how people give more of a shit that someone's hurt because it's a relative.
>>336856116
It wasn't even bad to begin with
>>336866135
I don't need to finish the game to have a valid opinion.
Also there are not many base colors even post game. There is a thing called google.
Grow up
>>336865518
>Diamond dogs log
Every fucking time, Like it's actually kinda okay, but what the ever loving fuck is that shit.
>>336858669
As you're running at them there's a river. If you follow the river they will not detect you and you can climb a wall near the waterfall to get to the mansion
I do wish that there were civilan villages spread throughout the map.
>>336866210
I hated quiet
She only caused trouble and DD was much more fun to fuck around with, should've just shot her
>>336858669
literally just run, with the stick pointed anything but straight forward
>>336856116
I liked 5 more than 2
>unlock the battledress
>wear it all the time even though it hindered me and I was sneaky punch guy
It just looked real neat in the cutscenes and didn't look weird with the rocket launcher on my back
>>336866239
I'm not even him but you're autistic as fuck. You're more blinded by the MGS4 hate than anyone I've ever seen. What the fuck does him posting a picture of himself have to do with anything? This isn't even some meme argument, you're literally just autistic.
>I BET I LOOK BETTER THAN HIM!!!!!
no one gives a fuck
Every game in the series is shit after MGS3.
>>336856116
Big Boss being silent the whole time was dumb
Silent performances only work if the person involved is very expressive or if the director wants to really emphasize the few things they do say, Big Boss just has this autistic blank look on his face whenever something happens, like when Quiet is getting tortured
And yes I get it hurr he's silent because you're big boss! but that was a dumb twist that was basically just a rehash of MGS2's twist where raiden was supposed to be the player
literally the only problem was that they said it was the 5th metal gear solid game, when it's actually a fully realized version of Peacewalker.
If they marketed the game as a spinoff that focuses on short repeatable missions and all the basebuilding/upgrading mechanics, then people would not have been disappointed.
It's a phenomenal game. It just wasn't the 10 linear narrative experience people wanted
>>336865518
>not just makeing her full bald
WHATS THE POINT
>>336866297
>kojima is a good writer
I never said he was or that mgs is a game with good story.
But now that you bring it up, I would say its no less of a clusterfuck than faust part 2.
MGS, DBZ, Kingdom Hearts. Look, Japanese people love surprises so theyre just keep tacking on random shit all the time. They don't make for good storytellers or much of anything other than laborsheep.
That said, no, the dialogue and speaking of characters in mgs is pretty damn good so youre completely wrong there.
Tell me oh wise one, what is in your eyes narrative complexity? show me an example
>The only reason people are so attached to The Boss's death in MGS3 is because they played it and thus they had a hand in it.
thatsthepoint.jpg
You use your respective media. In movies you show things happening instead of explaing it. In games you can involve player interaction to get things across. Words are just tools in the same way that movie visuals or game input are tools to communicate feeling. Once you get over this "books are the bestest ever none of this new mumbojumbo will ever compare" and understand their differences you can see that books and their words and their descriptions of things only work to do achieve the same end. Many of which written before other options existed.
>in a movie it would not happen as much an impact
If done properly using the strengths of film it could.
Comparing books to games or movies is literally comparing apples to oranges. They function differently but achieve the same goal.
Your argument is like if I said to you "books are shit because there is no visuals and just really long explanations of people clothes and the room they are in"
>>336866640
>choosing to have even less cutscenes
she was a useful buddy and her arc lead to one of the best missions
>d-horse
now there's a pain in the ass
>>336866623
why? what would that add to the gameplay?
>Staff member has died
when will the mgsv has no cutscenes meme end?
>>336867197
It wouldn't add anything gameplay wise, but just something to add a bit of life to the world.
>>336867286
really the parasite outbreak was entirely Venom's fault.
>>336866871
>hating a game
>throwing out a bunch of hyperbole and calling it an argument
>calls me the autistic one for pointing his shit out
You realize words have meaning right? That "autism" means something and is not just a generic insult, RIGHT?
>you said mgs4 had the worst of a few of those categories in a pool of 6 games
>you hate it!!!!
Think dude. Think. I don't hate it.
>every game is shit after 3
Yeah, you and the other guy (assuming its not just you samefagging) should definitely post a picture so we can see how much of a fat neckbearded faggot you are. That manchild who obsesses over game news so much and raises expectations through the roof and be disappointed whenever people make a product different from what you wanted so you cry and whine about it.
If someone here has autism I would point the doctor in your direction honestly.
>>336858772
Fine, okay. That's completely fair.
>>336867330
Whenever Konami releases the rest of the game.
No one is really complaining about a lack of cutscenes, they're complaining about a lack of story. There's a difference.
>>336867373
Huey literally caused the mutation you cuck
>>336867481
there is no rest of the game anon
let it go
>>336867002
>I never said he was or that mgs is a game with good story.
No but you said the series is "thought-provoking", which it never was. Unless the stuff he writes legitimately impresses you.
>That said, no, the dialogue and speaking of characters in mgs is pretty damn good
How? They're so expository when the medium allows them to tell, Snake constantly repeats back what is said to him, and characters talk as though there is actively an audience to speak to, which outside of theater you're not supposed to do.
>thatsthepoint.jpg
And it's emotional manipulation. It shows that the story itself isn't powerful enough to create that reaction on its own, but if YOU'RE part of that story then you feel for them. Interaction should compliment the story's strength in emotional scenes, it shouldn't rely on them.
>>336867373
You're not fooling anyone Huey.
>>336856116
It's a solid 7/10, but it's no 10/10 masterpiece like the Witcher 3. Not sure why fanboys screamed GOTY for MGSV.
>>336867523
literally all storytelling is emotional manipulations. That is the entire point, to make you feel emotions.
>>336867596
>witcher 3
>good story
>>336867596
because unlike Witcher 3 MGSV is an actually good *game*, not just pretty forest and cutscenes with sluggish combat
>>336867373
t. Huey Emmerich
it was alright
>>336867613
It shouldn't be forced. It shouldn't hammered in THIS IS A SAD SCENE, YOU SHOULD BE SAD NOW. A person shouldn't have to be told when an event is sad.
>>336866286
probably some ugly jealous ho-bag
>>336867710
sure, if you enjoy the rehashed missions, the annoying fast travel system (even after upgrading the chopper) and the bullet sponge boss fights
>>336867596
Because MGSV is actually engaging to play.
>>336867002
>>336867523
Dialogue and plotting--especially from game to game-- were never the strong point. But, on a thematic level, the subcutaneous stuff, I think Kojima can be an effective storyteller. The way the thematic ideas interweave and complement the sneaking scenarios was frequently pretty well-done, if also heavy-handed. Well-done "for video games" maybe, but nonetheless set Metal Gear apart from its contemporaries.
>haha theres no ending because that REAL phantom pain? DID YOU RIKE IT?
Fuck you Kojima, how does it feel knowing platinum made a better ending then you did you fucking hack.
>>336867968
>Well-done "for video games" maybe, but nonetheless set Metal Gear apart from its contemporaries.
Metal Gear has nothing on Planescape Torment.
>>336867197
It felt lifeless without any civilians anywhere. Maybe you could go into villges and fulton out doctors and prostitutes and stuff
Disarm the fucking nukes you mongoloid shits
>>336867897
The fast travel system is perfect and the missions are open ended with what weapons and level of sneaking you want to accomplish them with though lol.
>>336867406
I typed out a big long response talking about your superiority complex, what with the whole "let me see a picture of you because you disagree with me" and whatnot, but alas, my post was continuously considered spam by the system, despite how many times I reformatted.
Just know that if you're getting offended because someone said "autism" you shouldn't be on 4chan. And if you've never heard it used as an insult before, you shouldn't be on 4chan.
Don't try and kid anyone and pretend like you don't give a fuck about video game news and whatever and then try and say other people are fat neckbeards for doing so. You're on /v/, faggot.
>>336867486
>>336867551
>>336867742
If Venom hadn't brought the kids to motherbase there would have been no parasites in the first place.
And if he hadn't let him get tortured for a crime he didn't commit, he wouldn't have wanted revenge (though I don't believe he intentionally mutated the parasites)
>>336867995
>then
Average Plat-tard right here
MGSV was my GOTY 2015
suck my dick /v/
>>336868106
holy shit this is a good point. all in all, there wasnt actually a single person in that entire land who wasnt a soldier, was there. "explore an open world...of....soldiers with slightly different camos"
>>336867596
I will never forget how analblasted W3 fuckos were around MGSV's launch because no one gave a fuck about their threads. MGS threads would just be people talking about the game, whereas W3 threads were 50% people crying about how it's "G-G-GOTY, honest! Fuck MGSV!", along with the usual Yen/Triss/Ciri is best girl circlejerking.
>>336867968
>But, on a thematic level, the subcutaneous stuff, I think Kojima can be an effective storyteller. The way the thematic ideas interweave and complement the sneaking scenarios was frequently pretty well-done, if also heavy-handed.
I disagree, he doesn't actually understand what it's like to be a soldier and yet he writes the whole series around what it's like to be one.
Granted, not everyone is a US marine, but Generation Kill gives a much better depiction of soldiers, because those guys were real people.
>>336867710
good game with a lot of openess and nothing to do. fuck off... its a generic shooter
>>336868249
That's understandable in Afghanistan, the place you were in was evacuated due to the war, there wouldn't have been civilians living in the area north of Kabul at that point.
Africa has no excuse.
>>336863124
yeah.. but when you think in everything that is missing you feel bad.
>>336868181
>for a crime he didn't commit
wew lad
>>336868330
you have plenty of tools and guns to fuck around with though. Then there's the management game on top of everything and FOBs.
The game cuts back on cruft that may be cool a few times, but doubles down on a core that's designed to be highly replayable
>>336868369
In Africa, the people you were shooting WERE the civilians
>>336868503
No they were PMCs that were in the area.
>>336858669
Just snipe them. Its super easy.
What doesn't make any sense is someone wanting to kill everyone who doesn't speak english. Who cares if some nigger in africa is making clicking noises? It would make more sense if someone wanted to kill everyone speaking english in order to stop evil america or something.
>>336868421
This can be said for basically any single game. Thinking up an idea is not the same as implementing it satisfactorily
>>336867710
>>336867962
ur having a fucking laugh
MG was great, but fucking hell the witcher was the better game, no question
>>336865291
I hope that mgs 6 is going to be like godzilla final wars with everything that makes mgs good with tons of classics characters like solid, big boss, gray fox, marv and close venom, liquid, code talker, kaz arc.
>>336868267
"Being a soldier" isn't really, despite its apparent significance, really the central idea of Metal Gear though. It's mostly just the lens through which the series chooses to highlight various things. Whether it be existentialism, influence and legacy, the significance of the digital age etc. with an amti-war emphasis. You might be right, but that's really only a fraction of what it's about. Kojima deals in pretty broad strokes when tackling subjects like nationalism and duty etc. anyway.
>>336868595
Nah, it wasn't.
>>336868595
better story does not make a better game. Witcher was a clusterfuck of half baked mechanics from a gameplay standpoint
>the ending will never be released
>it will forever be a game without a real ending
Just kill me. There are credits after mission 46, but thats not even the last mission so what the fuck. Also mission 46 has no context. Why is he suddenly questioning himself
>>336868249
>that image
please don't make me fap again. I gave myself a friction burn on my dick.gwen is the only loli for me
>>336868698
prove me wrong m8
>>336868265
I still see Witcher 3 threads every single day on /v/
MGSV threads are like a monthly deal
lol
>>336868775
we're too busy actually playing the game.
>>336868775
>I still see Witcher 3 threads every single day on /v/
That's funny because I don't.
>>336868775
What about the depressed ones were MGS fans want to kill themselves? I see those every few days
>>336857774
>The twist is that Venom Snake is YOU, the player
>That's why you create an avatar in the beginning
>Kojima: I am a genius
>What if the player is a woman? Wouldn't that be a flawed twist since you can only create a male Medic?
>Kojima: Fuck, well just keep it in anyways.
>>336869035
>a game is only as good as it's story
nah
>>336869035
>muh female protagonist
I liked it a lot, but i seriously think that Konami should've gone full episodic with the game.
If TPP would've ended on the Sahelanthropus fight, there would've been more time for developing a real ending and not just repeating missions like in chapter 2.
>B-B-B-BUT EPISODIC IS BAD!!!!!!11!!
Come on, you already bought Ground Zeroes and TPP, you would've bought a third chapter.
You would buy the third chapter right fucking now if you could.
>>336869035
>implying any significant amount of girls played MGS5
>>336869035
>the twist is literally the first thing you do in-game
bravo kojima
>>336869464
she looks a whole fucking lot like James Willems from Funhaus
>>336869278
Would have been cool if Kojima had the balls to let you choose the gender of the Medic though, and have it so female medic got a sex change. Though forcibly changing someones sex would probably be too fucked up in a story.
>>336868775
There is atleast one MGSV thread on /v/ daily, to this day even 8 months after release.
Does anyone have the screenshot with the greentext of why kojima was fired for fucking joosten all over the konami offices?
>>336869464
She used to be so fucking skinny
>>336869534
They both have angel faces.
>>336869350
Episodic wouldn't have been bad, but it wouldn't mesh as well with the base management portion of the game, which is where a lot of the replayability comes from.
>>336869035
Chico should've been Venom Snake. The twist would've made more sense.
D-Dog/quiet and that tranq sniper broke the game
if they only gave you the horse as a companion that would've made missions more interesting
>>336869737
but tranqs have no penetration and you can't use D-Horse so no
>>336868265
And W3 is still the most awarded game in history.
>>336869464
kojima actually looks better than joost here
>>336869835
ok?
Who would win in a fight between Tony Stark and Solid Snake?
If Stark gets his suit Snake gets his Metal Gear.
>>336869534
both have diamond shaped faces and that's it
>>336870037
Captain America
>>336870037
well, without the suit Snake because come on
>>336869035
that twist is in practically every game with a deep story
kojima even already did it in 2
>>336869835
Since when are publication awards and reviews meant to be impressive? It's worth noting that as far as I remember, W3 only barely beat the record set by TLOU. Which was middling at best, for reference.
>>336870154
Okay. Who would win between Iron Man and a nuclear-equipped Metal Gear REX?
>>336869595
QCQ is a good workout
It's the first MGS game I just put down eventually and didn't want to pick back up again. Everything about it is just boring and repetitve and there's no story. I don't care enough to infiltrate some random base where every enemy acts the exact same to do the same missions anymore. And the open world is boring as fuck.
>>336865518
>all this applies to mgs2
huh.
>>336856116
It wasn't bad at all. Maybe story was cut in the middle, not exactly great and plain bad in MGS standards, but gameplay was so infinitely awesome it makes up for it.
I don't regret buying it.
>>336866407
in this case, you do need to finish the game before you talk about it
protip:the game is unfinished and everything falls apart in the second half
>>336870283
The game continues well after the last mission though
>>336870236
hey i'm not complaining
>>336870262
change up your playstyle if your bored
>>336856116
It only became bad after I did every single side-op. That was torture.
>>336870402
THICK
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>>336870472
I dont think you know what 'thick' means
>>336856116
It was you revisionist piece of shit.
>>336870612
compared to >>336869464 maybe
>>336870667
you can't be a revisionist when the dust hasn't even settled yet
>>336870472
THAT'S NOT REAL THICK
It was a good game, even with the cut content.
Here's the thing, games often have content cut for all sorts of reasons, games like Deus Ex or Fallout 2 were originally larger in scope but for different reasons certain ideas never make it to the final game (Although there's often cases where a fan patch restores most of it, like in the two games I mentioned).
In this case the reason things got cut or left unfinished was because of the fallout between Konami and Kojima Studios. Though I agree that what we saw in the "Phantom Episode" video would have made for a more fitting climax than what we got in the final product.
Now if there's one thing I didn't like about the game, it was that 90% of the story was contained within audio tapes ala System Shock rather than a mix of cutscenes and codec calls, and certain questions left without answer thanks to the fact that this is the last game in the series.
>>336870472
>Why are you looking at me like that, anon?
>>336868249
sauce pls
>>336871336
Ben 10
>>336871373
yes i know that.
Are there any mods that make stealth better yet?
I disliked the see everything through wall, but I hated the fact the dog just up and gave you wallhack.
And don't use the "don't like this OP tool the game gives you don't use it" bullshit.
>>336871732
Then why did you ask?
>>336868591
That is what Skull Face actually planned to do, the intel from Code Talker and Kaz's suspicions were wrong during the mission.
>>336856116
It honestly would have been better if they just axed act 2 entirely. And it still would have been the longest MGS.
>>336871815
well
you don't have to use the dog.
Use the Horse or Walker instead, they have their own uses
>>336871867
i wanted the source of the image, not the series.
>>336871960
it's a lewd image of Ben 10 characters...
>>336871815
Turn it off in the options menu
>>336871815
if you're on pc, infinite heaven turns every single mission into subsistence mode. if you're a console cuck, sorry for your loss.
>>336871960
>>336872021
This is actually really funny.
>>336872021
nvm i found it ;)
>>336871815
>And don't use the "don't like this OP tool the game gives you don't use it" bullshit
Literally don't use it. It's no different to not selecting an easy mode in any other game.
>>336870267
False
>>336871815
>hating on based Hallhack dog
He's a fucking bro, and there's nothing more comfy than running around the lifeless terrain while D-dog yelps out the position of everything in a mile radius around you
Felt like a long Ground Zeroes spinoff, GZ was better than the whole MGS5 game, sad.
>>336856116
It should have never been open world, just large, open ended missions like GZ.
Failing that, they should have ditched africa and only had afghanistan.
>>336874354
It was a bunch of GZ styled missions just with empty wilderness connecting them so you wouldn't have to ride the helicopter into them.
It needed more varied scenery, not less. Afghanistan was a bitch to navigate around.
Ignoring the fact that, because it's a sandbox, the gameplay siffered tremendiously
Ignoring the fact that the entirety of the game takes place outdoors
Ignoring the fact that Peace Walker, a fucking PSP game, has more content and variety
Ignoring the fact that the game hardly has ANY cutscenes or dialog
Ignoring ALL THAT, the game is still LITTERALLY UNFINISHED.
IT'S MISSING IT'S CLIMAX
IT'S MISSING IT'S ENDING
IT'S AN AUTOMATIC 0/10 BECAUSE OF THIS
YOU DENSE FUCKS
And I say this as the biggest fucking Metal Gear fan. One how owns a $500 REX replica, and has beaten every canon game, including both MSX titles, Portable Ops, and Peace Walker, ALL with Non-Lethal means when possible.
FUCK any of you who thinks this game was even okay. Just, fuck you.
>>336860298
>one of the best shooters ever released
>Shooter
Your opinion is worthless. You're one of those retards who treats a stealth game like a fucking TPS, which means you are fucking stupid. You do not have the proper mental capacity to claim a game is neither good nor bad. You're just too stupid.
>>336875305
>IT'S MISSING IT'S CLIMAX
>IT'S MISSING IT'S ENDING
You beat Sahelanthropus and Skullface gets killed. That's the climax and ending. Chapter 2 is post-game content
>>336875502
>getting mad because a stealth game has better shooter mechanics than most shooters
>>336875305
almost all of these are wrong and you sound like a bitch
>>336875756
The climax was the cut Lord of the Flies mission.
You never beat Sahelanthropus because it got fucking stolen and is still operational.
The mission you described did not bring a resolve to the story. It did fucking nothing.
The game is unfinished. Stop being a dumb shit-gobbling casual fuck and open your fucking eyes.
>>336875756
Chapter fucking 3 was the climax
>>336875973
...wait...so...what even happens in mgs5. your not snake, and then you die?
>>336875973
The story was about getting revenge on Skull Face. Lord of the Flies doesn't resolve anything except another extraneous plot point.
>it's the last action scene so it's the climax
quit being a casual fuck and actually read a book, retard.
3 >= 2 > PW > 1 > 4 > GZ > V > PO
>>336868054
The problem with PS:T is that it's not even remotely fun to actually play, and fails horribly as a video game for that alone.
>>336876169
A young Liquid Snake steals a fucking Metal Gear and has an army of african children
Huey builds you a big fucking "Battle Gear" robot that you never see and never use (outside of a shitty facebook game) despite being an obviously intended plot point
NONE of these things get resolved, and then the game ends.
Also, you were a random medic and you go on to be a decoy Big Boss that you fought in MG1 because reasons.
>>336875756
This is true desu.
>>336875305
The climax was the awkward car ride with Skull Face and the subsequent fight. Mission 51's exclusion is awkward, given that it makes Eli's inclusion in the game utterly pointless, but that's the least of the game's worries.
>>336876451
A resolve goes downward, not upward, you fucking mouth breathing retard.
If the fucking climax was reached, it WOULDN'T FUCKING BUILD UP TOWARDS A CLIMAX, OPENING UP NEW CONFLICTS AND PLOT POINTS
Fucking Christ. Are you even old enough to drink yet?
It was ok, but I hated the second part where you had to repeat all the missions in hard mode, instead of having new missions.
Also the fact that they teased us with what would have been the mission 51, and to know that we will never see it, it's kind of a dick move.
The first two weeks after this came out was honestly the most fun I've ever had playing a video game ever. The pacing and lack of story at the end are a real fucking bummer, but holy shit was it fun.
>>336876716
Would you call "The Scouring of the Shire" from The Lord of the Rings the climax? It's falling action. Just some last minute resolution to keep the reader interested.
Skull Face was the turning point that the story of V was leading up to. It's the climax.
also, why do you write like an autist?
Very enjoyable, but very disappointing game that showcases everything Kojima does wrong with his writing.
Glaring problems list
>AI kind of dumb
>Why would ever use anyone other than Quiet or the dog
>Do you seriously expect me to farm for literally 300 hours to unlock a silenced version of a shitty gun I'll never use?
>only 5 cars, 12 animals
>Hey kojima do you think we need a cutscene of notBoss staring out of the helicopter for 2 minutes every time you take off and land?
>Enemy variety a shit
>Micromanaging your soldiers is tedious and annoying, see grinding complaints
>Fornication
and I even liked it
>>336878356
I think the level design is the biggest problem. It carries most of MGS3's problems but also exacerbated by the "open world" system and bland repetition.
Oilfield was solid, though.
the level design was a joke. and the hospital was a painfully slow, interactive cutscene. it could have actually been a really good gameplay portion
>>336880825
The entire context of the hospital scene was so great, too. Perfect for a more dynamic sneaking sequence. Imagine if it effectively played like an older MG in Caution Mode or something. Great concept wasted on a glorified tutorial.
