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>>336849279
It's not the best.
It's my favourite.
It has the best OST.
Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSt-fNv5d68
>>336849432
It's got the best of all worlds desu.
I'd argue that the drawing and Junction system is a very serious criticism as that's one of the core mechanics of the game. The missions are awesome. The lack of real equipment upgrades sucks. Triple Triad is GOAT. The story and characters are underwhelming. Beautiful graphics for a ps1 game. It isn't at all a worthy succesor to ff7.
7 > 6 > 9 > 10 > 5 > 4 > 8 > 12 > 3 > 1 > 13 > 2
>>336849676
>>336849780
>implying 7 was even good
Sephiroth and tifa shills will refute this.
>>336849818
Oh fuck off 7 was the best. This is a fact. Only hipster faggots think otherwise
>>336850498
>>336850498
>people actually believe this
>>336850541
>>336850626
Leave it to fucking /v/ to be a bunch of hipster fucking faggots. Why do you think 7 gets so many attention? BECAUSE IT'S THE FUCKING BEST. 7 put the Final Fantasy name on the fucking map. It's why it's still talked about and celebrated 20 years later. Fuck you hipster pieces of shit who shit on it because HURRR IT'S POPULAR THUS I MUST HATE IT. Fuck /v/ and you faggots
Anyone who thinks this is a complete idiot who most likely started with 8,
8 is a terrible game with great music.
Disk 1 may very well be the best final fantasy. A shame about the rest though.
I agree desu second best is XIII
>>336850498
VII is my favorite as well
>>336851069
You have shit taste in games lol
*unsheathes discussion*
Question to those who claim 7 to be the best:
How much competition did Final Fantasy 7 had when it came out?
>>336849780
12 > 5 > 3 > 7 > 9 > 2 > 6 > 4 > 1 > 8 > 10 > 13
>>336850541
>>336850626
7 is easily the most popular FF game.
>>336849279
Yes but i have 2 favs
>>336851967
and? no one is disputing that
>>336851069
>7 gets so many attention?
Nice grammar fucktard.
It gets a lot of attention because most people in their 20s/30s grew up with it.
>>336851069
7 does nothing new. It may as well be 6, 3D edition
>>336851642
>>336851874
>>336849780
ohh look, people unable to discuss that posting chart and rankings
Riddle me this you hipster pieces of shit. If VII isn't the best then which one is it? Watch you faggots say IX because it's the one that doesn't get much attention and of course /v/ loves to hate popular things
>>336852305
XII or V.
Feel free to call me a "hipster piece of shit" for disagreeing with you.
>>336849279
I agree with you and simultaneously feel that you are a shitter.
>best final fantasy
Whatever...
>>336851069
>>336852570
I like V, but I can't stand XII.
Fucking gambits make the game way too easy for me, and I'm not the kind of person that handicaps myself to seek fun most of the time.
>but muh international version
I booted that shit up and just couldn't keep going, so I'm not judging that. I should play it though, heard it was better. Also wtf is with the voice acting? It sounds like it was recorded in a bathroom ffs.
>>336852305
XII, probably.
>>336852813
I like exploration and a grandiose sense of adventure, V and XII capture that the best.
>Fucking gambits make the game way too easy for me, and I'm not the kind of person that handicaps myself to seek fun most of the time.
Do you change the difficulty to easy on every game you play with such options available? You're only handicapping yourself if you don't, the game gives you the option to do that so why wouldn't you?
>international version
It's quite the improvement but if you didn't enjoy the original at all you probably won't find IZJE to be a worthwhile experience.
8 is easily the worst FF, next to 2.
>>336849279
It's the best, what is there to discuss?
Nothing wrong with other FF but it wont get better than 8 sadly however thankfully it can't get much worse than 9.
>>336853191
>mmorpg controls
>game plays itself
>no likeable characters
>boring story
sure
>>336849279
FFX is the best Final Fantasy, followed closely by VIII.
>>336853440
>no likeable characters
>boring story
Just like the story of your life, hahaha.
>>336853260
No, I play on normal generally on a first playthrough, or hard if that's too easy. That isn't handicapping myself is it? That's changing the game's setting. IMO the most well designed games have no slider for difficulty - it usually just makes the enemies' health higher which I find is poor design.
*tips fedodo*
>>336852072
Some of the greatest works in history weren't new. They perfect what has already been done.
>hey fellas, remember how we all grew up in that orphanage? No? Oh, I guess I forgot to mention it over the past few weeks. My bad.
>>336853529
kek
![shit-poster[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/PAGpTdA.png "shit-poster[1].png")
>>336853529
oooh, fookin roasted m8.
>yfw
>>336853298
2 really isn't that bad. It's a really ambitious game for its time with some neat innovations. It's not perfect but it's hardly utter trash. I'm pretty convinced that all of the loathing for it is spawned from a vocal minority and then people that can't be bothered with older JRPGs just parrot what they hear to seem knowledgable.
>>336853752
2 is shit.
Shit stories and characters.
>>336853752
I agree with you about the ambitious part, but I could do without that game's pacing.
Also I generally agree with >>336853810 though I wouldn't say it so bluntly.
>>336853615
>what is Doom
>what is Shadow Warrior
>what is Unreal
>what is Quake
>what is MUSHA
>what is Gradius
Let me guess, you think Souls is the pinacle of the medium? There's games that do difficulty options poorly like Oblivion but difficulty options are by no means a measure of what games are "the most well designed".
I don't see how anyone can make a case for anything but 6 as being the best FF game. 6 is the magnum opus of the series and it's never reached those highs since.
My personal favorites, counting only the ones I played are,
FF 6 > FF7 > FF9 > FF10
>>336854690
>I don't see how anyone can make a case for anything but 6 as being the best despite having only played 4 of this 14 entry franchise
Colour me surprised.
>>336854630
I never said that, I said that buffing enemy health as the sole mechanism of difficulty is poor design, I was also speaking of the temporal present, where most games designed with difficulty sliders do in fact use enemy health as an important contributor.
Also on that dark souls note, seriously? Trial and error gameplay from the atari days is the "pinnacle of the medium?" Calm down, jesus.
>>336854630
Also I see no reason to get upset because FFXII has no difficulty slider and I personally don't like handicapping myself, if you like the game that's fine, but I found it a bit easy, and honestly I was just holding down the right stick and playing the unseen healer like 90% of the time. It got old fast.
>>336849279
After Theathrythm, I agree. It is the best FF game. But that's not saying much. Even FFVIII is average with all the story and gameplay flaws it possesses.
>>336849818
Seph shill here,-FFVis the best
>>336851510
disc 1!? you hardly even do anything in it
>>336856274
Does FFV on the PS1 have the same horrid load times as the other FF ports? Its the only FF game I have yet to play.
>>336856421
>you hardly even do anything in it
Off the top of my head you have
-Tutorial
-Go meet Zell's mother and his home town
-Get Diablo and a few other GFs
-Dollet Duknem Mission (best part of the game)
-Dance with the Balamb Fish...I mean Rinoa
-Quistis gets fired
-Seifer goes crazy
-I greatly prefer Trains over other means of travel
-Squall goes crazy and dreams of Laguna
-Timer Owls Mission
-Get (useless) Irvine
-Prepare to kill the sorceress
-Everyone fucks up
-Quistis running through the sewers
-Irvine has issues with finishing
-Squall cleans up everyones mess and gets impaled for it
There's plenty you do on Disk 1.
>>336849279
It's one of my favorites, top 3 easily.
>>336856887
what I meant was gameplay wise, I always felt like you never actually DO much
you just kinda walk around talking to people to advance the story and not really deal with any difficult fights
>>336856887
>-Irvine has issues with finishing
>>336856421
I kind of enjoyed how disc 1 was just like my japanese animes
>>336857275
Actually killing the spiderbot is tough.
Fighting Diablos as soon as you get the lamp is pretty tough.
The Earth Brothers can be tough.
>>336857275
>what I meant was gameplay wise, I always felt like you never actually DO much
That's basically how all FF games are. Unless you're fighting a trash mob or a boss, you're watching a boring cutscene. FFVIII actually has more exploration than most FF games. Though that isn't saying much.
FFVIII would have been better if more of the story focused on Laguna. But sadly, its still the best main series game.
Why is there no good porn of Rinoa? She's absolutely fuckable in the best of ways
FFVIII Thread Bingo
If you get 5 or more, you win a trip to Balamb Garden.
>"Whatever."
>someone brings up the orphanage stuff
>Disc 1 is best FF
>someone complains about the Draw system
>squallisdead.com
>Rinoa = Ultimecia theoryposting
>Balamb Garden copypasta
>"Squall is gay for not fucking Quistis"
>You're the most handsome guy at this party.jpg
>Lewd Selphie images
>"Laguna should have been the main character"
>is Adel a boy or a girl?
>what the fuck is NORG?
>Replacing C's with K's
>tfw no G.F.
>Rinoa a shit
>Galbaldians on motorcycles
>Hot DogsI love this game.
>>336849279
>completely broken battle system
>dumb plot
>mostly awful characters
>dull world
It's the worst PS1 FF by a mile. It's saved by a good soundtrack and a weird atmosphere.
>>336849279
8 had potential but its my least favorite of the series. squall was a terrible character, gunblades are stupid, the whole GF's wipe out your memory bs so you dont remember all being orphans together was dumb, the master sniper dude not being able to sniper was dumb, ultimacia was dumb. i did like the new take on magic sytem with the draw thing, i wish they would have tried and refined that in future games. also, i know lots of people love it, but i hate card games in video games
>>336849279
FF8 has arguably the worst cast in the series.
>main protagonist is a moody douchebag
>his father is a retard
>the rival is an even bigger douchebag
>love interest is a realistic depiction of a teenage girl
>friends include an annoying dumbass, a tryhard 'ladies man' and a girl who is mentally 8-years-old
Quistis was the only tolerable one, even if she didn't get to do much.
>>336849279
I really liked the music, graphic quality, and Laguna's segments, but everything else didn't really resonate with me. Biggest problems for me were the draw system, how level scaling was handled, and the playable cast not being all that interesting. It's not a bad game and I can see the appeal in it to some extent, but compared to a lot of other games in the series, it doesn't really hold up.
There was a point in my life fairly recently where I believed I was Squall. I also fervently read Catcher in the Rye. I'm not sure what was going on.
>>336860186
Did you also watch Fight Club?
>>336861045
No, I never have and probably never will.
>>336849279
I hear the PC version is wonky. Did it get modded?
>>336860186
You and every other 15 year old loser
8 is garbage.
IX has the best waifu.
meh i used to think the same thing but replaying them on steam i actually couldn't bring myself to finish it but had loads of fun with 7 and 9. I also prefer tetra master to triple triad
>>336849279
I don't think it's great on a technical level but I can't deny I always like playing it.
>>336861463
But I'm already in my 20s. I actually wasn't ever that edgy as a teenager, just horny.
>>336862846
You're not still horny?
>>336862919
No he's a mature old man """"already"""" in his 20s
>>336849279
it's my favorite too, anon
>>336862919
I'm on Lexapro nowadays so that probably has something to do with it.
>>336862972
Never claimed I was mature, just that I'm not an edgelord nor am I a horny teenager.
>>336853440
>Hasn't played the game the post
I fucking wish an MMO played as well as 12, 12 is more of an RTS than anything, you set up macros and your hit squad carries them out, it's not spam abilities, it's real time battle management and it's fun as fuck.
>No likable characters
Vaan, that's it. The story shouldn't have focused on him, that's true, but the story is still great. Every FF has shitty sub plots you're forced to go through, just because 12 has 1/3 of it;s story devoted to pretty boy Vaan doesn't mean the other 2/3rds aren't great.
>>336858647
>The horny 20 year old was tolerable
She was literally smirk and shake head the character.
>>336858169
>gunblades are stupid
>hates card games
>hates having a level-headed male for a lead character
>"why don't we remember being friends?"
>wow magic
>>336849279
Partially true.
One needs to be a matured adult in order to enjoy the game.
>>336849780
literally the only reason you liked 7 was because she had huge tits
that's why you hate all the post-7 spinoff stuff, because she doesn't have them anymore
prove this airtight logic wrong
you cannot
Thoughts? Personal feelings on the matter?
>>336869381
Wishful thinking. Would make the game better but it's not actually true.
>>336869308
What's wrong with enjoying her giant breasts?
>>336869381
right
I wish this game had more battles with sorceresses. Also why were Quistis and Selphie far more magier than Rinoa, when it came to limits?
>>336869536
> would make the game better.
FUCKING IMPLYING.
>>336869774
it's true
>>336869381
Only considered by retards at this point, after years of knowing the Ultimania explicitly addressed the issue and said Rinoa is not Ultimecia.
>>336869784
How is it true? What makes Rinoa becoming evil (somehow surviving far into the future) for no discernible reason interesting?
The whole draw and junction grind dragged it down. Other than that it was great
>>336869308
So?
>>336849279
It's my favorite, by far.
>>336869381
reminder of Dissisdia
>>336869578
>>336870091
Not that guy, but the problem with only liking FFVII for Tifa's breasts is that there are numerous JRPGs where the girls have the same size (or bigger) breasts. But those games are also better in gameplay or story than FFVII.
>>336870246
like which? I find that hard to believe, given how stacked she is in 7
if you meant the nerfed/reduced redesign sure
>>336870368
Try the girl in the image I just posted.
>>336870553
fanart?
>>336870368
she's average (for a game) post redesign, you'd find plenty of western games with bigger breasted girls there
but even in her big stage >>336870091 there's way bigger, even recently (like that chick from Hyrule Warriors)
>>336849279
8 and 10 are the best.
>>336869381
would make the story make more sense and the time travel shit more reasonable. some of the shit rinoa says makes it seem true. at the least its more interesting to imagine if its true even though developers deny it
Hyped?
>>336870929
that doesn't mean it's untrue
>>336869381
I don't get it.
>>336870657
Yes? Just like Tifa's tits get exaggerated in fan art as well.
>>336871332
yeah but we know they're massive for real >>336870091
>>336871394
Those look tiny compared to most fanart.
>>336870760
can't disagree
>>336871475
we're not talking about fanart
>>336871618
>we're not talking about fanart
You brought it up. Idiots, I swear...
>>336849279
FF8 had potential but fumbled the ball in a number of ways, not the least of which was forcing Rinoa on us. I would've taken Fujin over her in a heartbeat.
>>336849279
The only flaw with this game is that I can't ditch Rinoa and waifu Quistis intead.
>>336871704
You brought up some character but only showed fanart
>>336871854
The story of FFVIII should have focused on Laguna's events in the past that influence Squall's future. Whatever choices you made in the past (marrying Ami or not, fighting in the war or not, etc) should have changed how Squall's story happened in the future. And of course, some choices would make it so Rinoa never existed.
But that would imply the developers of Final Fantasy put gameplay ahead of story. Which they will never do. "You will play our crappy story and like it."
>>336871854
>>336871908
mein nigers.
Having options other than Rinoa really would have been nice.
>>336870971
Abso-FUCKING-lutely
I appreciate the opinions of the lesser educated, but let us get some objective top 5 going here:
1: FF6
2: FF4
3: FF7
4: FF5
5: FF10
>>336872015
Cool idea. so it borrows a bit from chrono trigger/cross? Those were always interesting how they impacted history/reality.
>>336871704
Jessica is big, but she's nowhere near as big as Tifa.
Also to claim DQ8 has better gameplay than FF7 is laughable. Both games were shitty.
>>336870760
You're right on that part.
Tifa got left behind in the dust.
>>336869381
I have no idea what you are talking about.
>>336872318
she's easily bigger than redesigned Tifa
>>336852813
How is turning off an optional feature "handicapping" yourself? Literally the same thing as picking hard mode.
FF12 is complete shit, anyway. The story is literally nonexistent, the environments are long, repetitive, copy-paste jobs, and the characters vary from bland to uninspired to annoying, with the exception of Balthier.
The game is a complete failure and honestly one of the worst JRPGs that have ever been made for any console, much less the fucking PS2.
>>336872256
4,5 and 6 are classics, bar none. I think 7 is either classic or not depending on if you played it when it first came out, 10 was functionally fine, but many of the plot points were irritating.
>lulu claims she will never have a relationship with wakka.
>in the sequel, she had a relationship with wakka, just 'cause.
>>336872318
Jessica is about the same size as the new design of Tifa. In other words, 'realistic huge'. And that's what Tifa will look like in FFVII:R.
>Also to claim DQ8 has better gameplay than FF7 is laughable. Both games were shitty.
Its funny how the go to defense for FF fans is 'they both suck so that makes FFVII decent'.
>>336872497
Tifa's gonna be pretty average in 7R
>>336869381
this is reference to the theory that rinoa is somehow ultimecia reborn or something?
>>336872581
they referenced it in Dissida
>>336855264
Why do stupid underage kids keep repeating this?
There are TONS of games that become genuinely difficult and honestly completely change the game just by giving the enemy double HP or damage.
Tales games come to mind. The games are insane on hard mode, and require genuine strategy to barely survive fights. It gets to the point where giving bosses even 5-10 in STR or 500-1000 more HP would completely change your strategy, just because of how close every fight becomes.
If you honestly parrot this same stupid "hurrdurr more hp doesn't equal more difficulty" meme, then you're a stupid underage kid who has never played a really balanced game.
>>336872572
Since Final Fantasy keeps trying to push towards realism, she'll basically look like your typical runway model. While Akira Toriyama doesn't care about being realistic.
>>336872497
The new design of Tifa is "big" but nowhere near huge. The old design was huge.
>>336855498
You still haven't explained how turning off a COMPLETELY OPTIONAL FEATURE is "handicapping yourself." You're literally just talking in circles, and until you can explain your logic, then this conversation is over.
Incidentally, I fucking hate FF12. I still 100%'d the game on high-speed, real-time active, with gambits turned off. Because I'm fucking baller.
>>336864242
>he's never played FFXI
literally copypasted the combat system faamalam.
>>336864242
>he's never played the game the post
Literally zero of the story is dedicated to Vaan. Who's not even "pretty."
The game literally HAS no story, outside of the final dungeon. It's pretty much just endless meandering through deserts and jungles, with no progression other than Ashe saying "we need to go over to this desert. For my FAMILY HONOR."
Finally, at the end, Cid is Balthier's dad and Laguna transforms into Airplane Bahamut. The end. That's it.
>>336849279
It's up there, I liked FFT more, I really with they would make a modern FFT, sort of like in the world of FF7 or 8. Would murder for Valkaria Chronicles mechanics in an FF world. Any tactics games like that really
>>336872497
When the fuck did I say FF7 was decent? I literally said they both suck. How defensive are DQ fanboys where they interpret a game sucking as being good?
Also, I'm talking about original games. Quit being dense.
>>336872486
fair enough
10 was fighting for spot 5 with FF9.
I really liked both, but after a few replays of 10 (especially as a more mature adult) I began to appreciate the main story line a bit more, especially if you look at it as a self-contained game (IE not looking at X-2)
>>336872703
so she'll look shit?
>>336872497
>he said one thing, so he means the complete opposite!
Funny how you assume I'm an FF fan, literally off of one line where I complained an FF game sucked.
How the fuck did you even make it through second grade with that reading comprehension?
DQ games suck. FF games suck. Both have exceptions, but both series are bad. DQ is overall slightly less bad.
I really want to play ff9
Is the steam version good, or should I emulate it?
>>336872473
cos that's supposed to be impressive?
>>336873401
>>336873261
Not even going to hide your samefag I see. Yeah, you totally are worth arguing with.
What the FUCK was his problem? Quistis best girl.
>>336873764
Too socially awkward to discuss feelings with his hot teacher, I guess.
>>336873410
What a shame.
>>336869381
makes sense, I think at one point they were going go with that, but the game seems unfinished... so... no, she's not ultimecia.
>>336874276
>not fucking your hot ass teacher
Squall you fucking beta faggot.
>>336873764
Any mods that can fix that Jew Face?
>>336874780
Any mods that can fix that /pol/ attitude?
>>336873764
Quistis was more naive than Squall was. In fact, everyone in the game was more naive than Squall was.
>>336874903
>not liking Jew faces means you are /pol/
Go back to LGBT please
>>336874960
Explain jew faces.
>>336874780
yeah, put a picture of ur mum over it
>>336849279
7 is the best.
But 8 is a good second.
FF8 was also my favorite. Looked so much prettier than 7, which was pretty ugly in comparison.
>you will never live in Balamb Garden
>you will never practice with bros in the training area
>you will never go on a quiz with your hot teacher to tame a fire god
>you will never build yourself a shitty swordgun out of junk that you stole your roommate and hit a mighty fire demon so hard with it that he becomes your slave for all eternity
>you will never arrive too late for hotdogs at the cafeteria
>you will never get that Hot Dog
>you will never be praised by Robin Williams
>You will never be told "whatever" by Squall
>you never just fly away with your school when the missiles approach
>you will never pilot Balamb Garden
>you will never turn cards into nuclear materials
>You'll never receive a massive facial scar and still remain a 10/10 gorgeous pretty boy
>You will never summon a Cactus to sodomize your foes
>You will never summon Eden and wonder what the hell it is
>you will never get a GF by just downloading one from your computer
>you will never live in Balamb Garden and play Triple Triad with Edeawith the "Remove one piece of clothing if you lose" rule you brought with you
Why even live?
>>336876853
>Looks matter in rpgs/jrpgs/
18+
>>336870971
Ye
>>336873409
Anyone?
>>336874419
>>336873410
That's outdated as fuck and ignores that gbike Tifa from 2014 that Nomura drew is bigger than any other Tifa he ever drew even on 7
>>336860186
>>336861045
I hope you guys aren't actually implying that Catcher in the Rye and Fight Club are bad.
>>336879348
>menu has a special Attire slot
Thank fuck. Roen's catalogue isn't all terrible, so there have to be some better outfits.
