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what happened
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>>336802001
Jews.
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On the left is Metal Slug 5? I think. Made by the people responsible for some of the best if not the best pixelart ever done.
In the right is undertale, made by 1 guy without any experience or education.
Post more pixelart you slut.
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Western developers.
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>>336802428
This desu senpai
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>>336802001
western devs
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>>336802352
Metal Slug 3, actually, best one in the series.
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one was made by one dude with little experience

one had dozens of professionals of some of the best pixel artists who ever lived working on it
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You posted a picture of two different looking games.
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>>336802428
modern western developers*
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>>336802001
>team of skilled artists with a significant budget for a 30-45 minute game
>a inexperienced tumblr tard with a laptop and game maker studio
Gee I wonder why one looks shit
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>>336802120
/thread
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>>336802001

One's literally has been rated as the best game ever made and the other is a second squeal to a failed series.
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>>336802595
>he didn't play Metal Slug 6
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1 guy with no art experience with a 50k budget vs a comparatively large team of artists and animators with a much larger budget, who are making a much shorter game

it's not fucking rocket science
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>>336802847

This.
Not saying Undertale's art is good, but the comparison is retarded as shit. Can't expect otherwise from people who such hate boners for any game.
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>>336802961
>It's okay when the Japs do it!
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>>336802961
DELETE THIS
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>>336802001
That's hardly fair, op. I can't think of anything that looks as good as Metal Slug.
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This is a typical Japanese game nowadays... wow. What happened?
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A large budgeted AAA title, sold at full price (or as an arcade machine each costing 599 dollars), essentially equivalent of modern day CoD series in production budgets and goals, compared to a one-man-made indie title costing less then ten bucks on release?
Gee, /v/ you sure as fuck are a smart bunch. Also, graphic whoring used to be looked down upon some time ago. What made you change your mind? Maybe the fact that you don't give two shits about games to begin with, and are here just to shitpost and whine and think that makes you a master troll?
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>>336802961
both are good games though
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>>336802847
>1 guy with no art experience with a 50k budget
Dust is also by one guy with no budget and no experience
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>>336802961
>>336803405
whats the one on the right?
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>>336802001

When it comes to sprite art, americans just do not have the talent and expertise of those old Japanese games. Truly a lost art
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>>336803096
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>>336802001
one of those games costs 100x the other
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>>336802001
Laziness plus game making tools became more acessible

with availability comes mediocrity.
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>>336803559
kek
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What the fuck happened?
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>>336803278
>jap games made by small studios of 2-3 people have gorgeous 2D art
>western games made by any studio under 20 members are all pixel shit
No fucking excuse
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>>336803525

Dust also looks pretty shitty
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>>336803540
kero blaster
it's by the same guy who made cave story. it's fun but really short
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>>336803716
what's right?
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>>336803716
what game is that on right
tell me right now
no memes, god damn it
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>>336803739
>2-3
More like 20-30

>gorgeous
Looks like shit
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>>336803842
>>336803883
Japanese porn game.
>RJ173746
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>>336803952
>Looks like shit
underage detected
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>>336803804
cool thanks
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>>336804103
Pretty shitty
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>>336802001
well, the game on the left is a full game while the one onj the right is a cheap game

it's good, but only because it costs less than 15 yuros
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>>336804224
>if it's japanese and it's porn, it's good art!

No john, you are the underage.
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Talentless indie plebs.
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>>336803525
>no experience
>A self-taught illustrator and animator, he had previously done artwork and cinematics on Epic Games' Jazz Jackrabbit 2, and was in the process of creating an independent animated film, Elysian Tail.

He has a background as an artist but needed help with the music, as opposed to Toby who had a background in music but not much in art.
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>>336803525
>no experience
it was made by the lead artist and character designer for the jazz jackrabbit games, amongst other things
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>>336803952
>Looks like shit
1/10.
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>>336804519
oh shit
thought you guys were talking about Metal Slug
fuck me
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>>336803525
>>336804603
>>336804665
Take a close look anons. This what getting BTFO looks like.
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>>336802727
>>336802476
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>>336804849
>tfw Owlboy will never be finished
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>>336804849
looks like shit desu
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>>336804849
Nice mockup.
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>>336805030
still looks like shit desu
i've been better art on a fucking saturn game
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>>336805108
Let's see it then
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>>336802001
Many things happened. Mostly, lots of kids from the 80s who played too many games became manchildren in their adult lives, bitter and resentful towards the more successful, and came to inherit many of the internet journalist jobs since you don't have to be very competent to be a journalist. Journalism then became a tool for them to promote new values that would take down AAA games and support shitty little college student projects, because it benefited them and their manchildness.
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>2004 indie game
What went wrong?
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>>336805372
what dumb bullshit are you talking about
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>>336805252
too bad it's japanese only
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>>336802961
>filename
PRAISE LORD KEK
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>>336805478
you're fucking kidding?
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>>336805478
It looks good but besides not being pixel art (except for the player I assume) it's identical to Owlboy, Anon. The animation on that big thing is really unappealing though.
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>>336802832
>6
>good
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>>336805584
>>336805667
kill yourselves
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>>336805478
>30fps vs 60fps
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>>336804959
>>336805108
How so? Are you able to criticize it beyond saying "it's shit"? A weak argument like that won't get you anywhere. I can see the grass and leaves need work, and I'm sure other parts that we can't see in those screenshots need cleaning up, but the rest of it looks great. Nice colours used, they aren't muddy or overly bright. The lighting and shading are consistent. The objects drawn look good. Overall, it's looking damn good.
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>>336805478
It looks worse or the same at best, are you blind?
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>>336805478
wat game?
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>>336805784
no no, you first. It's not even fucking pixel art, and the green character looks like shit, and the animation is a poor man's metal slug. Please, PLEASE kill yourself.
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>>336805872
Don't worry, you can't expect rationality from weebs. It's western so therefore it's shit.
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>>336803952
Nah, 3 devs and 5 artists. Including one of the best loli artists known to man. Pic related, that's one of his artworks. This guy has been drawing since before 2000.
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>>336805478
That green frog thing looks like fucking garbage.
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>>336805903
Jesus Christ what a faggot.
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>>336805903
>>336805874
>>336805983
>looks like shit
0/10
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>he cares about graphics

fuck off retard
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>>336806040
Please tell me how that green frog looks good.
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>>336805474
I'm talking about how retarded abortions like Undertale, Papers Please, LISA, Hotline Miami, Super Meat Boy, etc. that are no better than a college student's half-assed classroom project now have mass amounts of supporters online, with many journalists writing POSITIVE reviews for them, as if they are worth writing reviews for at all.

Why do you think that is? You think it's just general human stupidity? Journalists jumped on that shit for a reason, people jumped on that shit for a reason. To me, it's because of the indie label, and how it carries the notion of being anti-AAA at its core. That's what these losers find appealing about them. Most of them can't go a fucking minute without mentioning Call of Duty or whatever in their GOTY lists anyway, it's even mentioned in that stupid Indie Game movie, as if their hatred for AAA is always sitting in the back of their minds.
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>>336806104
It's not a green frog.
Tell me how that shitty owlboy looks any good, he looks terrible compared to the rest of the environment.
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>>336803278
I don't see anything wrong with this image
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>>336806029
obviously you are the faggot. fag
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>>336806239
kill yourself
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>>336806351
the world needs me to call out fags like you
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>>336802001
The difference is that the game on the left is the equivalent of an AAA game in terms of how far they could push graphics given the limitations of televisions and computers at the time, and the game on the right is a lazy attempt as using a pixel "artstyle" to justify not caring at all about the graphics.
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post good pixel art
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>>336806203
Nice job avoiding my question. It's because you're unable to tell me how he looks good, right? Because you realize he actually does look like a hot, steaming piece of shit who sticks out of the environment like a sore thumb and you just don't want to admit it.

And Owlboy's sprite obviously isn't the greatest, but at least he isn't as bad as your bright green boy. Nicely used colours, nice proportions, he fits in with the environment. He doesn't look out of place. Because the sprite is so small I can see why they wouldn't want to try and force a lot of detail into his sprite, because then his design would look too busy and therefore, look really bad.

Green boy here has far too much going on in one little sprite. It's really busy and because of that it looks bad. Look at his arm. It's so stiff and unnatural-looking. The shading isn't clear, the colours are muddy. Why is only the under part of his tail shaded? Looks like a poorly drawn sprite.
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>>336802961
I played Kero Blaster a few months ago, when does that scene happen? I don't recall it at all.
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>>336802961
man, why do you have to remind me of what Kero Blaster was originally suppose to be.
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>>336802001
Progress.
There are more games including games that you don't like.
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>>336806728
Is this from Kingdom?
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>>336806875
it doesn't, it's one of the earliest beta screenshots Pixel released.
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>>336805473
They stopped having good music.
Think of any good indie game. It has good music.
Think of any bad indie game. It has bad music.
Music makes or breaks indies.
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>>336806782
>poorly drawn sprite
>unnatural looking
Considering it's not in motion, no shit. At least bother to look up how it looks before you assume from a mere gif.
Owlboy looks like shit.
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>>336806942
No idea, saved it off of /b/ sometime back.

Wait, just did some research, apparently it's a background from SNK vs. Capcom: SVC Chaos
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>>336802001
>>336802120

It doesn't matter what the graphics look like. People get sick of realism and want to go back.
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Just waiting for my gay furry pixel art game.
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>>336803716
What is on the right?
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>>336807382
When will this thing be done? Had the author released any new webms since those 2 way back?
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>>336802001
What happened is people don't need to use pixel art anymore.
With the limited data on old systems and bad graphical capabilities it encouraged innovation and skill to work with what you had and so people figures out how to make things look as best as possible because they had to. This led to people becoming really fucking good at pixelart, a skill that has largely been professionally lost.
New games don't need to do it, the only reason is exclusively lack of artistic skill to make real 2d art, being too lazy to do half decent 3d or just plain playing the nostalgia card. That means there's either no effort, no skill or both.
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>>336807469
japanese porn game that supposedly had the help of a witcher 3 dev
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>>336807541
Or maybe because you don't need graphics when the gameplay is good
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>>336807541
Technical limitations really encourage some crazy ass shit.

I remember watching a video on how the color mode of some old Macintosh worked, and how each 4x4 block on the screen could only use two distinct colors, so the image had to be micromanaged with color profiles to look decent.

It gets even better if you consider how scanlines on a CRT TV were actually implemented into the design of sprites to make sure that they'd look good when displayed on a TV, even if they were crap on paper.
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>>336807335
>People get sick of realism and want to go back.
So then play some older games. They're infinitely better than 2D indie shit from the 21st century.
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>>336807487
Not that I know.
What's the other webm? I only have this one.
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>>336807382
I hope they make it so you can warp to different save points, and put in lewds for normal monsters too.
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>>336807921
I don't have it, but there's a lewder one where he covers the sex with other screens.
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Why do they always have stupid red noses in western games
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>>336807228
I love how you're unable to tell me the flaws in the sprite. If you love it so much you'd be able to tell me what's wrong with it. Everything has its good points and bad points.
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>>336808126
kill yourself
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>>336807863
When did I imply graphics meant more than gameplay?
Gameplay>music>artstyle>graphics>story
A game is made better the nicer it looks but it's not a necessity because if it's fun then it's good, but if the game's shit it doesn't matter.
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>>336802001
jesus fucking christ you people are the fucking worst
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Wish I could TURN BACK TIIIIIME
To the GOOD OLD DAAAAYS
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>>336808207
Go on, give me a single bad point. I'm sure you can at least point even one out. But you're blind, right? So maybe this is a little unfair to you.
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>>336802352
>made by 1 guy
The sprite art was actually by a second person who was hired for it.
Was paid money for it.
Someone was remunerated for that garbage.
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>>336806235
How about this one?
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>>336802001
Jewish iconoclasm.
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>>336808226
> Element 1 of vidya > Element 2 of vidya > Element 3 of vidya > etc

When will you idiots stop this and realize that all elements are required to make up what we call a "video game" and that it is pointless to divide them up by priority? They ALL should be priority for devs, and bad graphics are AS DAMAGING as bad gameplay to a video game.
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>>336808064
Almost all western indies are made by people who frequent twitter and tumblr

Naturally, the artstyle rubs off.

This is also the reason why most jap games have an animu style because their surroundings rub off on them.
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>>336803278
Otakus
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>>336808064
It's been around in western art for centuries. Red noses/cheeks/ears are just another illusion (much like shading) to try and trick the mind into thinking that the object you're looking at is "alive". To give it depth and life.
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>>336806882

What's that game called? I'm pretty sure it's on the N64 but the name just isn't coming to me.
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>>336805872
The amount of detail in the sprites would make it impossible to tell what's a platform and what's a background decoration.

Just because it looks nice doesn't mean it's practical.
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>>336806126
Maybe they have a lot of supporters because they are good games
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>>336808338
Actually only some of the pixelart was by her
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>>336808392
It's that logic that got us into the mess the industry is in, the gameplay is shit but the graphics will make up for it since they are all the same importance right?
I'm OK with being against tier lists but gameplay has to come first every time
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>>336808338
nope, all the sprites from the demo (like OP) are by toby

temmie did only some of the battle sprites
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>>336808496
The only good games in there are Paper Please, Hotline (the first one) and Super Meat Boy.
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>>336807382
yiff in hell dog fucker
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>>336808552
>the gameplay is shit but the graphics will make up for it since they are all the same importance right?
But I just said that bad graphics are as equally damaging as bad gameplay. If they followed that logic, they wouldn't think that good graphics will save their games. So no, it's not that logic that got us where we are today.
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>>336808552
>the gameplay is shit but the graphics will make up for it

And this is why Battlefront is shit.
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>>336808449

I just remembered. It's Wonder Project J2.
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>>336808449
Yeah, it's Wonder Project J2.
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>>336808663
>hell

>being over 18 and still believing in fairytales
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>>336808632
...so that majority of what you listed? Im not sure I'm following. Shouldn't it be a good thing that journalists are supporting indie games and not just sucking AAA cock?
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>>336808496
None of those games are good, if you've been playing games (and more than just the most popular releases) for over 25 years and have any form of capacity to judge and make comparisons between things.
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>>336802001
Intersectional femnism
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>>336808460
That's a good point. Like the stairs in >>336804849 really do just look like a background decoration, don't they? It would make you feel like an idiot if you got stuck somewhere then found out something you're meant to use is an intractable object, and isn't just something in the background. I hope they work on that.
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>>336808894
too bad the game will never live up to expectations
now move along
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>>336808860
Hey man I'm not saying they're the best games ever made but they are certainly above the modern AAA bar.
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>>336802832
>pre-rendered backgrounds
Fuck you.
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>>336808714
Bad graphics are in no way as damaging as bad gameplay. An old ass game is gonna look like ass but is still fun as fuck.
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>impressionism is shit because reasons
>everything must be depicted with realism

/v/ is truly the dumbest board.
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>>336809052

Who the hell said that?
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>>336809052
>right side
>impressionist

There's impressionism, and there's bad art.
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>>336809052
Your post is retarded because reasons.
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>>336809052
Three replies within a single minute. 10/10 amazing bait.
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>>336809007
Absolutely fucking not. Unlike you, I can't play any of those games for more than 5 minutes without falling asleep, or feeling disgust at how blatantly they shit on the medium. Any day of the week, any week of the year, any year I would rather play a game like ACIV: Black Flag, Arkham Knight, RE6, Deus Ex, Hitman, Halo, Far Cry, Max Payne, Wolfenstein, GTA, etc.
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>>336808860
Who made you the god of the good games so that we have to take your opinion about what's good and what isn't?
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>>336809031
They are when your interest isn't to just dick around and have fun playing a game. I want to have fun and feel challenged, sure, but I also want to role play and feel immersed in the game's setting. Bad graphics ruin any possibility for the latter.
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>>336809345
I knew it was bait and yet I bit anywhere
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>>336808764

How is it? Is it one of those games with a lot of auto advancing text? I'm thinking of playing it to practice my Japanese but I can't read all that fast yet.
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>>336805473
Nicalis
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indie cancer
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>>336809576
If you want to just roleplay and have you skills go unchallenged just fuck off to some roleplay forum
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>>336809576
I'm talking about RPGs anyways, it's never been an issue if the game has AAA tier hyper realistic graphics. Baldurs gate, diablo and shadowrun look like shit by today's standards but I'll play the shit out of all of them because they are fun, immersive and interesting
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>>336809587
>I disagree and don't think it's possible to think otherwise so I'll call it bait
Those games all have fucking mini games embedded within them that are more technically advanced than those little indie shits. Fuck your shit taste.
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>>336807382
name?
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>>336802001

One is a arcade cabinet for get 1000 pennies every day

One is low budget game with engine & assets of a 1992 game
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>>336809031
>An old ass game is gonna look like ass but is still fun as fuck.
Lemme guess: You also think Pong has better gameplay than Call of Duty simply because it's old.
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>>336809927
>If you want to just roleplay and have you skills go unchallenged
lol, what is with dumb cunts thinking I said the exact opposite? When the fuck did I say I want my skills to go unchallenged and only want that?
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>>336809638
Just get the English patch senpai. it's fun
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>>336810135
when you mentioned "role play" and "immersion", dickmuncher
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>>336810123
Oh right, you were baiting. Congrats on getting me to reply for so long.
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>>336803405
>Kuso Blaster
>good
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>>336810267
>I want to have fun and feel challenged, sure, but I also want
>I ALSO WANT
Stupid fuck, learn to read.
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>the Metal Slug series has good pixel art!

I love this meme. I really do. It's genuinely one of my favorites.
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>>336802001
why is the concept of an art-style so difficult for /v/ to comprehend?
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>>336802001

What happened to what? Your question isn't very clear.
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>>336810161

Now that I'm learning Japanese I almost feel like I'm wasting time playing Japanese games in English when I could be playing them in Japanese and getting better at it.
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This is a typical indie Japanese game.
Thanks Japan.
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>>336810436
Why do people think that autistic draw thread tier art that might as well have been made in Microsoft Paint is a good artstyle?
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>>336810538
>Splatoon
>indie game

F U C K O F F
U
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K
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>>336802961
DELET THIS NOW
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>>336810596
That's not Splatoon anon...
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>>336810436
The "artstyle" of Undertale is shit, and that's coming from someone who liked the game.
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>>336807213
Shovel Knight is terrible but has a decent soundtrack.
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>>336810454
The Japanese version functions like the English patch, so yeah you should be fine. It's a fun game, give it a try anon.
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Wasn't Another World made by one guy?
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>>336810715
>Shover Knight
>terrible

You're terrible and you should stand in the corner until you reflect on the idiocy you just posted on the internet for everyone to see.
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>>336810715
I thought shovel knight was great
Your opinion is valid
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>>336810370
it's cute 2bh
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>>336810121
>One is low budget game with engine & assets of a 1992 game

This is a 1992 game, don't be fooled
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>>336810538

That looks cute but there's something kind of off about it that I can't place. What is it?

>>336810729

Can't imagine it would have a whole lot of difficult vocabulary. I'll go download the first one and give that a go. Hell, even if the text auto scrolls maybe I should just bite the bullet and try anyway. I can use savestates if I end up missing too much.
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>>336811278
Maybe lack of AA?
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>>336811278
>there's something kind of off about it that I can't place. What is it?
It's that generic cute anime face. The kind of thing you see in the Unity Asset store.
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>>336811392
Can you see loli pantsu in Unity Asset store? I doubt it since it's a western cuck store, right?
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>>336810793
It's a shitty "throwback" platformer that's way too easy and filled with modern cancer like quirky dialogue and pointless RPG elements. The levels are boring as shit because they're all gimmicks and no substance. The boss fights are tolerable, but still stupidly easy.
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>>336811798
I want to argue that you're wrong and that it would hold up even without the retro artstyle, but if it wasn't for the artstyle I probably wouldn't have even picked it up.
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>>336810436
Covering up something that's shit by saying "but it's my style!" is something that pretty much all of /ic/ shits on.

But then again they're /ic/. They shit on everything. Much like /v/.
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>>336802001
Tumbler and hipsters
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>>336811798

Are you saying that old games didn't have quirky dialog?
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>>336811236
>literal 1992 RPGs have better graphics than undermeme

holy hell.
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>>336802001
SNK died, their artists started doing porn, and they will never returned.

Your image would be more accurate as this in the 2016 slot.
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>>336812140
Undertale can only be graphically compared with 1986~1989 games
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>>336811236
You're now aware of how many hours of artistry that floor and those columns must have taken for a single battle arena in a single zone.
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>>336808338
tuyoki did mostly sprites for the shopkeepers and some battle sprites but not all

you can tell her work apart because it's actually good, like the snowdin bunny and shopkeep temmie
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>>336802001
Kino. Vidyakino happened.
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>>336810436
Lisa looked better and was made on a much smaller budget
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>>336804603
>>336803525

his character designs look like fucking garbage, I would rather have pixelshit
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>>336807382
I'm not too into gfur but this still looks pretty awesome. It's almost sad it's a porn game because it could get a lot of attention from the indie scene if it were SFW.
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>>336812621
>that
>good
lol
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>>336812140
woah, it's almost like undertale was primarily made by one guy who happens to be a musician instead of a visual artist
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>>336812703
how is it bad? sure it's not spectacular but it was made by one person.
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MEANWHILE

>SNK in 2016 on a next-gen console

wha happen
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>>336813117
Tries to imitate NES hardware but looks nothing like it.
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>>336813142
China happened
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>>336802001
>Artist vs code guy's art
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>>336812221
shoryuken.com/2016/04/25/snk-playmore-rebrands-itself-back-into-snk/
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>>336814105
And what a great job they're doing.
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>>336809936
That's fine, but a game with modern graphics and the same level of writing, and maybe a more immersive genre like first person, would be much better.
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>>336810596
>Splatoon is on PC
Really?
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>>336813338
>NES
I wish school ran through Saturday like in Japan.
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>>336810436
>it's deliberately being shit therefore it's art
Intentional or ironic or whatever buzzword you try to hide behind it's still ugly as sin and shows the artist has no skills or sense of style.
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>>336802120
>>336802815
>muh joo boogieman
God you faggots are sad and patethic
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>>336815176
Are you impling jews didn't happen?
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>>336804665
>it was made by the lead artist and character designer for the jazz jackrabbit games
Why do so many people get this wrong?
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>>336815176
Is this your first day here?
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>>336814881
kill yourself
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>>336802001
One was made by a team of skilled developers the other was made by a furfag living in his mom's basement.
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>>336809052
>LE MODERN ART IS SHIT
>PHOTOREALISM OR GTFO
/v/ is full of plebs man
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>>336812621
because furries only want porn, they don't care about any other aspects
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>>336802001

UT is pretty much a new spin on its genre (there wasn't a peaceful tohou RPG that I can remember), it's decently writen if you ignore the most memetic parts of its dialogue, which are horrible; has ok music, and the design of half the cast is very strong. The main mechanic of the game (trying to trick the player into thinking they're leaving the standard model of the narration) works very well for young players, moreso with a morality system in it. The game is smug enough to presume a lot of people are going to kill everything after they hug everything, and guess what the game is right, a lot of people are psychos and just too sheltered to realize it. This isn't actually new, but it has been a while since anyone did it right; and it remains a powerful tool if you know how to use it.

It also came out at a time when a lot of players were going back to old JRPGS like mother as a reaction to games that were mostly graphics and engine, and squaresoft basically trumpled over fanmade sequels.

Many weebs also were drawn to the fact that Toby Fox was basically the main designer, homosuck gained a large and notorious fanbase that could be used to give the game more publicity and paint it in a favorable light.

It also draws on the wishes of a large casual base that likes dancing games, cooking games or other genres that aren't that hardcore and have been somewhat neglected for this reason, and the numbers add up.

It's overhyped, but that doesn't make it a bad game. TB was right on giving it the title, because even if it was full tumblr pandering, at least it was trying something different, it moved with a very small budget, and somehow it has substance. Suspiciously looking like seamen, but it's something.
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>>336807948
>>336807382
http://harmarist.tumblr.com/

https://harmarist.itch.io/anubis
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>People say Undertale has lazy terrible graphics while they praise Dwarf Fortress for being a god tier game
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>>336812593
>Lisa looks better

Lisa looks disgusting. The art is the reason I will never touch it
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>>336816865
>disgusting

that's the entire point m8
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>>336816421
>The game is smug enough to presume a lot of people are going to kill everything after they hug everything, and guess what the game is right, a lot of people are psychos and just too sheltered to realize it.

This isn't true at all. After you learn the trick, the game is braindead easy. The game doesn't do a very good job at conveying that trick to you on the first pass (use 'spare' on everything).

The only reason people go into the game killing is because they've played RPGs before, and the game's lack of information about the numbers on their hud means that people usually think nothing of it. The only time that the game even hints that killing is bad is maybe 3/4ths of the way into the game when some of the characters even start mentioning it. The first boss in the game is someone that takes eight turns of sparing with no text to even start to notice a difference.

It's a big bait-and-switch scheme that only works once. It's no different than what Ultima or Final Fantasy has done in the past (IE: this thing you thought you were doing the whole game which would solve things? It was making things worse).
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>>336802001
one is metal slug and the other is undertale. was that so difficult?
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>>336816782

Nigga honestly, tell me how are you going to simulate an universe with that level of detail in realistic graphics and whatever engine without you PC blowing up in a catsplosion.
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>>336816782

have you noticed that /v/ only thinks things if they aren't popular? hmm....
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>>336816782
because its funner and challenging
also complex as fuck
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>>336816782
>/v/
>is
>one
>person
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>>336805108
>talking shit about the Saturn
>the system capable of arcade-perfect fighter ports, SHMUPS and other great 2D games like Guardian Heroes and Princess Crown
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>>336816782
>undertale simulates, in real time, an entire world of inhabitants
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>>336813142
SNK being bankrupted (or at least near bankrupted) again and KOF XIII sprites being expensive as fuck and requiring a shitload of time to finish happened.

While basically everyone wants SNK to do 2D again, they really don't have the resources for really good sprites anymore.
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>>336817041

Granted, it's shittier and it's bait, but most people will get neutral ending first, then good ending, THEN bad ending, even if it's just because they want to try the super chubby skeleton fight. The game is banking on this: Sans is the most popular character in the game by far (fanfiction, comics, tumblr, reddit), which shows that the trick worked well for its intended audience. It's been done before, it's been done better, but nobody did it for a while.
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>>336807382
>that wasted potential for gay furry porn
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>>336815176
Gee, I wonder who could be behind this post...
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>>336803405
So is the OP but everyone's going to bitch.
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>>336813338
>NES

hi
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>>336806974
>ACKCHYUALLY
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>>336816782
dwarf fortress uses ASCII graphics

undertale uses ASHIT graphics
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>>336818792
I bet you spent all day trying to come up with that
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>>336803525
The work of one who consorts with beasts
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>>336802961
The one on the right doesn't exist. The concept of saving qt catgirls was dropped for some sitcom-like story about a frog janitor for a teleporter company. The only cat is your boss, which looks nothing like his original cats from his comic.
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>>336818865
6 gajillion men died in billions of hours in paint
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