Where were you when Bethesda desperately started backpedaling?
>>336796921
I don't understand
>>336796921
What?
>>336796921
That's a mod.
I'm confused.
>>336797162
it's from far harbor
>>336796921
Que?
He's talking about SPECIAL or perks influence dialog or choices, which I think the base game had one or two instances total of?
>go to Institute with 10 int character
>HURR WOT IS ENERGY CONSUMPTION ME NO UNDERSTAND
>>336797040
>>336797076
>>336797125
Skill checks, retards.
>>336797204
And?
>>336796921
Did it leak? Got more pics OP?
>>336797307
Skill checks were in 3 you colossal fucking sperglord
>>336797204
Ok? What are you trying to say?
>>336797307
That's the target audience.
>>336797307
Isnt Medic one of those perks you have to take to make medical shit more effective?
Like, its retarded not to take it no matter what type of Stealth Archer character you're playing.
>>336796921
>>336796921
I hope every single one of you pirated this game, because damn both the base game and the DLC is complete utter shit.
>>336797893
Yeah medic is pretty worthless since you have a shitload of stimpacks
>>336797204
NANI?
>>336797789
You are so fucking stupid you don't even understand the point of this tjread. Fucking end yourself faggot.
>>336797730
Not OP but there are a few leaked images and info here and there, most of its on the /vg/
>>336797979
i bought it day one full price i still want to kill myself
>>336797979
Its okay, ill get my moneys worth from the upcoming mods adding in sex dunge- I mean new base building.
>>336797979
I bought Fallout 4 and the season pass. I also pirated New Vegas when it came out.
>>336798035
>op makes unclear thread
>gets mad when people don't automatically know whats going on
>>336798045
Care enough to repost them here so we can discuss them?
I've never felt more down in my life after purchasing and playing Fallout 4 at launch. And I did really enjoy Fallout 3.
>>336798278
This. I'm not autistic enough to go to /vg/.
>>336796921
Is bethesda insulting us? Is this some kind of sick joke? Fuck Pete "I apologize" Hines and Todd "DYNAMIC MOUNTAINS" Howard.
>>336798035
Jesus Christ, son. Cure yourself
Doesn't the USS Constitution quest require skill checks?
So this thread is about how Bethesda is incompetent and they're trying to salvage whatever RGP reputation they have left?
Might as well just accept that they're idiots until they prove otherwise.
>>336797559
>>336797802
>>336798023
That means it's not a mod. It was a good answer to the post I was replying to.
How nice, you can buy the "turn F4 into an actual RPG" dlc.
>>336798278
Actually its been leaked, so people are playing it right now
No idea where the link is, have a giant trailer crab
>>336798408
Or you can walk 5 meters and get the part.
>>336798408
They're the only "skill checks" in the game, and they're merely used to skip quest objectives
>>336798524
and you attack its weak point
>>336798590
You know what they say, you can take the girl out of the trailer park but you cant take the crabs out of the girl
I'm surprised no one is mentioned how similar it is to New Vegas which had the same idea. Of course, New Vegas did it better since you had more skill checks to choose from which I think caused different solutions to healing the injured.
>>336798035
embarrassing
>>336797307
Skill checks were in the base game
They only appeard in one whole place though
>>336798549
>>336798568
Then I don't understand the point of this thread. Base game has optional skill checks, expansion has skill checks and that's back peddling? Are these ones required? What happens if you ignore the NPC?
>>336796921
If this is real then It gives me the hope that the DLC(s) after Far Harbor might implement more removed features and actually make the game more immersive and rewarding.
>>336798474
>>336798524
>>336796921
There was a beta where some people got the whole thing including achievements free, you get selected """""" randomly""" despite having to enter level
Apparently they have no interest in a level 93 exploring the beta. Fuck these jews
>>336798884
I think what OP was trying to say was that FO4 didnt have skill checks (USS was utter shit, skippable ones) and now Bethesda realize that was a mistake so they are putting it in the new DLC.
>>336799014
This looks like more of the optional medical tent shit that was in New Vegas though.
Give it to me straight boys... Will there ever be a mod good enough to fix this game and make it play like a real RPG?
>>336800578
Nah
>>336800578
Unless you get someone really dedicated to redoing the entire game, no.
>>336800578
They'd need to generate additional dialog for every voiced protagonist conversation in the game at a bare minimum. The only way I see that happening is if Bethesda decides to release DLC voice packs.
>>336798432
They tryin. Somhow with somthing?
Its a start. Oh jesus i hope its a start and not just a hick up.
>>336798883
Actually 6.
Not much better, but better than just one.
>>336798348
It is one of the most disappointing games ever made.
>>336801464
Makes me sad, the other games were true experiences for me, 4 is garbage that I don't think even mods can fix because it's problems relate to the core experience.
>>336798702
The problem with the skill checks in vegas was that you could easily pass them all. With the special/perk system in Fallout 4 you can't pass them all because you must prioritise certain stats.
>>336802226
It's permanently fucked. The single worst decision was having a voiced player character with only 4 responses to every situation.
I have no idea how shit like that got greenlight in a fucking RPG game. Like, they didn't even bother to get several player voices.
I don't understand how they fucked up this bad. All we can do is hope Obsidian gets another go.
>>336797789
Don't worry they are all faggots NV would have never been made without FO3
>>336798035
he's right
all these retards in this thread are the exact audience that bethesda is after and the reason why fallout 4 is so shit
>>336802893
Yeah that would be ideal.
I probably like 3 and NV equally, TTWL was an absolute wet dream, but none of the charm 3 had was in 4, and like you say the roleplaying that was perfected in NV was completely absent like they ignored all of the advancements Obsidian made to the formula.
>>336802893
Having a voiced character helps with immersion and makes it more cinematic.
>>336802226
>>336803579
>been getting the urge to dive back into NV/TTW
>dumped a shitload of quest mods into it as well
>takes 30 minutes just to load the save
>>336804186
>implying it didn't have precisely the opposite effect
Good one Todd.
>>336796921
>no skill checks
>no option to kill him
great
>>336796921
skill check is in 3, NV and 4
So Bethesda starts adding small fixes to their game and you whine about it?
>>336796921
HOL UP HOL UP
JUST what did Bethesda mean by this?
>>336802893
NV was a severely mediocre game and while it did RPG elements and writing better than FO3 or FO4, that isn't much of a high bar to clear.
>>336797979
I didnt even pirated it. Maybe I will when there are enough mods to fix it.
>>336798035
>the point of this thread
Literally laughing out loud over here
>>336802893
>4 responses to every situation
>4 responses
>4
Pump the breaks there anon that's being really generous.
>>336805435
FO4 design document.txt
>>336805123
Just buy a ssd :^)
>>336805993
>>336806016
Well when you put it like that, I don't know if it was a serious suggestion or not.
>>336800578
Yeah when obsidian makes the sequel
>>336796921
>still the exact same bed model as every other bed in the game
>probably the same model from FO3
bethesda please, why can't you just TRY sometimes
we live in 2016 for fucks sake
bethesda games always look like two console generations behind
>>336798035
I agree op
People on this website are literal retards and children, dont take it personally
>>336805993
Nice.
>>336805993
Convinced myself fo4 wouldn't be as bad as I feared. It was worse. God it is such a mediocre game
>>336805993
>>336796921
Why doesn't he just become a ghoul like literally everyone in fallout 4 seems to
like seriously becoming a ghoul from overdosed radiation now seems more common than just flat out dying
even if you're stuck in a fridge or a submarine for 200 fucking years
>>336798978
>they expect people to do more than one run of FO4 and not be sitting at lv70+ already waiting for this stupid DLC
>>336796921
Why do you even play this shit?
Are there really people out there who finished it and thought they need to play more?
>>336807765
This is from leaked DLC.
And maybe, just maybe, people ENJOY things you don't? Ever consider that?
>>336807765
i finished it and my first thought was "is that everything?" and yeah, turns out it was. fuck radiant quests
>just ran with every faction until i reached endgame where they start killing each other off (since there is no NV-style faction karma), saved and ran through all the faction endings in one sitting
yawn
>>336797979
I had faith it would be at least as fun as FO3, which I remembered putting a lot of time into...
>waited in midnight launch line at gamestop
>almost $90 because of canada + tax
>thoroughly underwhelmed the entire time
i'll sell it to some other chump for like $50 and say it's really good, try to recoup my losses
RPG MODE WHEN, BETHESDA?!
>>336807765
I've played through FO4 twice so yes I'd say more content is needed.
>game where RAM speed actually impacts framerate
One more justification for my 3600mhz kit
>>336807868
>And maybe, just maybe, people ENJOY things you don't? Ever consider that?
Yeah and it still doesn't make any sense to me since F4 has no redeeming whatsoever. It's shitty both as an FPS and an RPG.
>>336797307
That's a perk check.
>>336808128
>tfw you bought it digital
>>336808153
why would you need a second playthrough when the concept of "builds" is non-existent thanks to removed level cap?
By lv70 you should have every worthwhile perk on the chart, considering all the completely useless ones
>>336805993
>>336808272
I'm so sorry, anon.
level scaling was a mistake
>>336807929
That lack of faction interaction just killed it for me.
In NV I played every side and worked really hard for a favorable outcome, it took specific quests, insane speech checks, shit like that.
Getting the desired outcome through diplomacy and social engineering is very satisfying.
In 4 it just ignores all your actions and makes you pick A, B or C.
Everything feels so fucking hollow and pointless.
>writing
>>336808519
but at least the graphics finally look almost-acceptable by modern standards. style over substance-- it's the next-gen way
>>336808284
You don't get level 70 just by playing the game normally so there are lots of skills to try out in your second game.
>>336808683
There's a lot to like in 4 but it's all superficial, none of it is important to a Fallout experience.
Are there any good UI change mods yet?
Because I absolutely hated FO4's UI
>>336803579
>the charm 3 had
???
>>336808729
>You don't get level 70 just by playing the game normally
yes you do.
i did every quest in the game except endgame faction quests, found/scavenged all locations and did a decent amount of radiant quests and then saved before going through each faction's endgame, I was Lv65+
i bet you didn't get idiot savant which is the most broken perk i've ever seen. you can gain three levels off a quest turn-in and even with max INT it still activates hella frequently
>>336808681
Does that happen in the Far Harbor?
>>336808824
>trudging through water
>notice if i stare at the ground at a particular angle the shitty fog layered over everything vanishes
>underwater plants actually look nice
>can never see them unless i'm staring straight down to remove fog
>>336809101
>played the game normally
>did every quest in the game
That's not how it works.
>>336808681
God I fucking hate it when literally every single mistery in the game just needs to be resolved by the PC eventually no matter the odds or even if it doesn't make any sense.
Now I remember that despite its fault Pilars of Eternity did one thing right. Eders only motivation to join you was that you could help him learn the truth about his brother. He knew the odds are slim but he wanted to take a chance.
After a lot of effort and quests, he ultimately learned nothing significant, as expected by him.
>>336808459
>Prayers for Todd
>Implying he didn't shoot them
>>336801357
>>336801464
I'm going to try and be as real or human as possible here. Fallout is one of my first favorite games from my early adulthood. The things it brought to me that console RPGs I had experienced at the time hadn't were its unique characters, settings, and stages in which what felt like any number of potential outcomes could spring from how I chose to handle them, and how my character -could- handle them. Multiple play throughs varied wildly thanks to the interactions of character builds and the multiple choice style problems presented themselves in.
There's a reason talking heads and the "You can beat the end boss by talking him into suicide." were the sort of posterboys of the game.
I don't hate Bethesda's style of game. I hate that it's been applied to what was once my all time favorite franchise. I can only imagine how fans of any other series would feel if their game series had been bought up and changed so much, and I only have empathy for them.
I'm a pretty lame mix of bitter and happy. Sad that my first love with RPGs has to die like this, and happy that there's a cool post apocalypse shooter out there that people enjoy. I just hate that I had to lose something for others to gain.
>>336809330
I agree with this.
Normal people eventually drop F4 and never return.
Is there a torrent yet?
>>336809515
yeah, although you don't have to bring nick with you and you can bring any companions along but this one conversation is triggered by having nick with you, fast travel works the same way as dragonborn thankfully.
>>336809784
its up in 2 hours
>>336805993
>>336809258
ye
>>336809330
>normally
Sorry, I mean I played through the tutorial, posted some pictures of my progress to social media, got a power suit and a minigun (tweeted that out to my followers), killed a deathjaw with a minigun (epic), turned the game off, then never played it again.
>>336809784
shouldn't you be browsing with an adult. torrenting is illegal you know!
>>336809712
iktf desu senpai
>>336809963
H-hey now
lets not steal my, I mean, Bethesda's content.
You should buy it, I mean, it is SO worth it
>>336809963
Is that a leaver action rifle?
Does DLC have weapons that don't look like utter shit?
Why Bethesda can't use something similar to IRL looks of weapons like NV did?
>>336805993
fukken saved. filename thread here I come
>tfw the whole modding system in F4 is actually pretty shallow when you think about it and serves as a poor distraction the extremaly low weapon variety
>>336810324
You realize that joke is pretty old by now right?
>>336797979
>bought it day one with the collectors guide and season pass
Every time I look at it I feel stupid, it was so underwhelming in so many ways. I have never felt buyers remorse like this before but man did I fuck up. Only reason I still own it is because I still have the season pass. Is this what its like to be cucked?
>>336810396
They don't have any variety. Theyre all just recoil management, scopes, and extra damage recievers
>>336797979
>I hope every single one of you pirated this game
I did and it wasn't even worth the pirate.
>>336810217
b-b-but i bought the season pass
>>336810306
to be fair it does actually look like the weapon it was based off of although I agree the ironsights are crappy, also it uses .45-70.
pic related, new companion and radium rifle, does radiation damage aswell as normal dmg, semi-auto uses .45.
>>336810790
Was radiation damage even worth shit?
I remember them making a huge deal out of it in F4 but I never saw it being useful.
>>336796921
Isn't that like in the Boomer medical station quest.
If so what's the problem?
>>336810657
pirate it then seed it. THAT WILL FUCKING SHOW TODD THE JEW! EVERY PIRATED COPY IS A LOST SALE!
>>336797979
>pirated the game
>do some shit
>nah this is too awful
>try to finish the main quest
>glitches out when building the teleporter, game won't realize all parts are powered up
>glitch was probably overlooked during the development
>not waiting to pirate the rushed out 6 patches to fix this
>mfw
>uninstall
>go back to Morrowind and New Vegas
maximum (^:
>>336810994
It does pretty well against humans, but I always found it incredibly funny to find a legendary radiation gun that does +50% damages against ghouls.
so for the E3 livestream, are we just gonna spam "tell me lies" when it is Bethesda's time for coverage?
>>336811113
Was that better or worse than the cryo-flame thrower that did 50pts of freezing damage in addition to fire damage?
>>336811113
Thanks Bethesda.
I'm still bummed by how Unique Weapons are just same shit with different stat.
Dunno what happend with Bethesda, in Morrowind and even Oblivion Uniques had new textures.
>>336811145
YOU KNOW ME SO WELL
>>336798524
VERY fast vault dweller travelling at incredible hihg speeds.jpg
>>336804186
>immersion
You know what breaks immersion? ME SPEAKING IN A VOICE THAT ISN'T MINE
>>336797040
>>336797076
>>336797125
>>336797174
Fallout 4 had very very little amount of skill checks in the base game. Alot of people complained about this saying its another reason why youre special doesn't matter and another dumbing down.
>>336811085
>not chilling in Sotha Sil with SSE in CURRENT YEAR
>>336797979
>797979
But yea i bought it because i needed to kill time for about 3 days. It lasted about 2 and that was pushing it. I logged like 20 hours and by the end i was only playing to see if crafting got better.
>>336811384
You are to be immersed as prescribed, Anon. Do not deviate from The Path.
>>336811390
???
Sup
>>336811489
I'm not sure what you're confused about anon, care to explain?
>>336811495
hey
>>336811495
Do you think you're SPECIAL or something? I miss when attention fags like you would get banned for being attentionfags.
>>336811495
yeah, that's about the time for doing everything in the base game plus dlc
>>336811489
(You) were looking for one of these?
>>336797979
Yeah
>>336806747
Remove the read only flag on your save folder. Then use CASM. If that doesn't work, there's a program on the nexus that removes all the references from your saves and lowers the bloat.
>>336811495
After the first maybe 15-20 hours did you just leave the game running in the background while you did other things? If not how exactly did you get that much time since there fuckall content after a a short time even with DLC and there's no mod support yetor more likely NEVER EVER
heres a pic of the harpoon gun, its a heavy weapon, does decent damage if you're specced into heavy weapons, harpoons are relatively cheap aswell, and you can retrieve them.
>>336811495
sup
>>336811495
>>336811585
These say more about your poor taste than anything else.
>>336811760
I haven't even touched the DLC yet. I just roamed around exploring and did a lot of the settlement building stuff. I have a mortar canon in every settlement spot in the game.
>>336810790
what the fuck is going on in the top left of that screenshot? Did you save someone's footage and take a screenshot in vlc?
>>336811876
>public trackers
"lol" as the kids say.
>>336811052
Eh, easier to just stay away from Bethesda. They garner the most undeserved amount of hype in the history of gaming for every modern release.
>>336811974
>elitism in stealing
"cuck" as they say
>>336811892
okay.
>>336797789
That's not 3 anon
>>336810657
same
never felt so burned by a game before.
never again will i buy a bethesda game. ever.
>>336811867
>picking up reusable ammo technology
bethesda really stepped their game up.
>>336811931
I intended to do the same, but after the first few installations, I couldn't justify the time it took. If I want something dead, my guns and grenades do the job too quickly to make mortar strikes worthwhile.
>>336811974
>anything wrong with public trackers
I'm on some private ones too but I use publics most of the time unless it's something specific I'm looking for
>>336812058
>jealousy
"kek" as reddit says.
>>336811947
im using dynavision, also theres alot of quests in this dlc, my quest log is pretty clogged with this shit.
>>336810657
thanks for the purchase baby
>>336812195
how do you know what reddit says?
>>336812276
This is /v/, you're all redditors.
Is the new survival mode any good?
>>336812134
>>picking up reusable ammo technology
>bethesda really stepped their game up.
Couldn't you do that with arrows in vanilla skyrim?
>>336811052
>EVERY PIRATED COPY IS A LOST SALE!
Shut up retard, every pirated copy is a sale that ever existed in the first place, the only thing pirating a game can do is encourage someone to buy the game.
Not saying that's the case with Fo4 though
>>336812396
i haven't played any tes games. I was thinking of bethesda's fallout designed and published games.
>>336812254
Burn in hell, Todd.
>>336812369
>Have to eat drink and sleep
>No fast travel allowed
>Enemies and food give you dieases
>Ammo and other weight restrictions imposed
>Can only save at beds
Wow this is pre-
>Difficulty is set to maximum
>Meaning all enemies have health bars that are six miles long
>however, both you and the enemies do 2x damage so its not SO bad
I tried doing it as a melee build and its just non viable because everyone one shots you. Might be fun for a stealth rifle character though
ITT: try and have a better build than OP
>amd fx 4300 unlocked 4.3ghz
>gtx 970
>16 gb of ram
>120 ssd 1 tb secondary
>ax 760 watt psu
>>336812564
Just saying that this is nothing new for them.
>>336811495
I'm going to squeeze that $90 of enjoyment out of it even if it kills me
>>336812463
>getting this mad at someone who wasn't being serious
>>336812463
>not getting the joke
found the retard
>>336812671
cpu @ 4.4ghz
280x x2
950 watt corsair something or other
>>336797979
I bought the game at full price and fucking loved it
>inb4 todd
I liked the game a lot.
>>336812901
I pirated the game and fucking hated it
>inb4 Todd
I hated the game
>>336812770
>>336812821
>I was just pretending to be retarded!
>>336812747
>tfw got gifted base + season pass
>wanted to play it BAD, game drops and is shit
>quests and writing are godawful, game is shallow as fuck
>actually getting some drops to 30FPS sometimes with a 4690 and 970
>literally every quest is the same thing, with one or two exceptions TOPS
>go to place X, get item Y/kill npc Y, return
>try a lot of different things to try and have a good time, including maximum difficulty so the game isn't piss easy, mods and shit
>this is still the most i could stand playing it, i was already hating myself by the end of it
how could they fuck it up so bad?
this place looks interesting
>>336812982
>making fun of how devs say that a pirated copy is a lost sale
>still not getting the joke
you dont have to pretend at all.
>>336813012
thats the thing with fallout 4, everything APPEARS interesting at first, and the further you get the more you realize its completely shallow and empty
>>336813115
>NOO!!! I SAID I WAS PRETENDING!
if you're not actually retarded, don't act like one
>>336813130
Just like the other fallouts?
>>336797979
Last Bethesda game I bought was FO3
I don't feel sorry for anybody who bought 4 and regrets it
>>336813130
But there's a robot vault in there.
>>336813283
Yeah, just like the other fallouts
>>336813283
haha damn nice one
>>336813408
Are you gonna try to prove me wrong or am i right?
>>336813006
But seriously, HOW?! They had tons of time to work on it, they have money considering how fucking much of a success 3 and NV were..I mean it really is just a huge middle finger to everyone who wanted the game. I was anticipating it but even my huge fanboy friend who was gushing like a pleb for months was let down and doesn't play anymore. I don't fucking get it man, they're supposed to be a bit titan of the industry but they just deliver shit.
>>336813186
I know we joke a lot about autism, but as we can all see here, it isn't a joke.
Imagine a world where a comment intended to humor is taken as seriously as a blood oath. Imagine the joyless life someone who can't recognize a joke lives in?
This is why I support AGDQ and their partnership with Autism speaks, because I've seen it speak, and it's fucking retarded.
I enjoyed Fallout 4, it wasn't a rehash of NV/3 and was fully its own thing. Thats how games should be otherwise you start getting yearly iterations of the same crap like COD and Souls
>>336813012
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK HOW CAN ANYONE SAY THIS LOOKS BETTER THAN SKYRIM
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODD
>>336797125
this
fallout4, despite how "shitty" neogaf, or /v/ says it is, will always be better than the deepest asian game you can think of
>>336813513
are you going to explain to me why the other games are shallow and empty or are you just going to continue showing everyone how smart you are for having a different opinion?
>>336813617
Nigga it was just a more dumbed down version of FO3 with base building tacked onto it
>>336813727
sure
>Go into location
>Kill things/talk to people
>leave
Wow such detail and immersion, fallout 4 never does anything on this level
>>336813968
nice
>>336813708
I had more fun playing MGR or Chrono Cross to be honest man but I get your point.
Doesn't take much to be better than Weeb Dating Sim #81283 tho.
>>336813617
>and was fully its own thing
Skyrim is to Fallout 4 as Oblivion is to Fallout 3.
this place is fuckin creepy
>>336813283
Fallout 3 was great because of how new it was. The idea was fresh as fuck at the time so it really worked well, it was a very interesting game all around. NV had everything going for it too, 4 just didn't do much to change it or keep it fresh..they made it look like they did but the dialogue wheel is shit, settlements is alright if you get into it I guess but it is mostly a gimmick, mods you can easily go without. Just didn't do anything great, streamlined all the way through.
They should have stuck to their shit by just updating gameplay a bit, sticking to the level up system, gotten rid of the craft shit and just designed tons of weapons and cool unique drops, diverse and interesting settlements, better writing, more expansive story.
>>336814021
ikr
>>336796921
I'm really excited to see the are adding skill checks. Now if only actual skills were a thing. Is this the dlc
>>336814112
>Fallout 3 was great because of how new it was. The idea was fresh as fuck at the time
Literally the only difference between 3 and 4 is that you weren't 14 when you first played 4. Both are equally terrible RPGs, and lightyears behind 1 and 2.
>>336814087
evocative of bioshock
>>336813617
It had some good ideas but was so utterly worthless where it really counts.
Whenever something cool came along I just found myself wishing it was in a better game.
Being able to walk on the sea floor in a power suit, the modding system, vertibird pickups, manual crits, melee kill animations, Minecraft-lite, none of that matters if I fundamentally don't give a shit about what I'm doing and I'm not immersed.
What absolutely killed it for me and made me uninstall the game was when I spent HOURS meticulously crafting this village on an island, setting up trade routes, building defenses, making a mansion for myself, going to all the different settlements and redirecting residents to the island, only to have them all stand in the middle of a fucking field, ignoring the village, and the trade caravans spawned in the floor of my mansion and people would wander into the ocean at random and fuck it fuck it fuck it fuck it.
I fucking hate how with the addition of settlements caused the amount of playerhouse mods to decline.
I'm not autistic/artistic enough to spend hours fully decorating a house.
Describe FO3, FNV and FO4 in two words each.
>>336798035
This wasn't hard to pick up. Anyone doesn't understand is completely clueless on the major overlying problemsmiu
>>336814763
>FO3
Everything's green
>FNV
Cowboy's paradise
>FO4
HATE NEWSPAPERS
>>336814763
Green filter
Orange filter
No filter
>>336814763
Fucking shit, good shit, meh shit.
>>336814408
Why are you comparing 3 and 4? I said 3 was fresh at the time, that has nothing to do with 4. It's aged pretty bad too but at the time it was good.
>>336809330
Yes it is because there are so few quests in FO4 that it isn't even difficult to end up finishing all of them. i actually looked up the fucking wiki to see if i'd missed any. there are less overall quests because of them considering radiant quests as good filler when they are actually fucking shit
>finish scavving a building
>radiant quest tells me to go clear the building i just cleared
>loot just respawns with enemies
fuckin hell
>>336814112
Idk man I thought alot of shit they did was great. A lot of shit they did sucked too but overall i think the good outweighed the bad.
They made power armor how I always felt it should of been, A walking tank.
Npcs actually react to being shot, they can take drugs during combat and certain enemies can lose body parts changing how they fight.
Settlements aren't anything special but its a nice side thing to break up the combat any with each dlc and some updates new shit is added.
Customization isn't the deepest, but its more than new vegas weapon mod. You could argue without it there would of been more weapons but the only weapon category i felt a lack of weapons for was unarmed.
Perk system was meh, but special is kinda important now more than it was in 3 or NV.
>>336814606
B-but you can build and design your own town! Several towns!!!
Sure, it has very little impact on the actual gameplay and no impact at all on the story, but kids love it!
>>336812315
That sums up most of the problems in FO4 very well. I loved 3 and NV. Agreed with the criticism for both games and foolishly hoped Bethesda was paying attention and would try to improve on things. That was my hope. Realistically I thought it would at it's worst we would get a bigger, fleshed out FO3 with no factions, new enemies and NV style skill system.
Then the voiced protag was announced with those pictures of the dialogue system. I knew then "uh oh" this could be worse than I imagined. I talked myself out of it. Thought of all the ways it could work and kept the faith.
FO4 ended up being such a joke it's almost unbelievable. I never imagined such a poor product would happen.
>>336797893
healing items are plentiful and if you're being sneak you shouldn't be getting shot in the first place
So medic is a useless perk to invest in
>>336811495
Whats hanging
>>336797893
By Level 13 you already have enough stims to do whatever the fuck you want.
>>336814763
No lets make a haiku.
F3:
all the world is green
the mobs are bullet sponges
sure is a lot to do
NV:
I care what happens
exploring the world is very fun
loads of cool stats
4:
actions don't matter
everything is recycled
I want a refund please
>>336810086
>tfw your favorite franchise gets bought and starts pandering to sjw's and cod-bros
>>336797789
But they weren't there in vanilla 4 you colossal moron
>>336814763
I'll do three.
>Fallout 3
Good at first
>Fallout NV
It's pretty good
>Fallout 4
>Big Fat Meh
>>336813536
Because they can easily get away with it
Why spend time and money on something your average audience doesn't care about? Old school fallout fans have been replaced by the new Skyrim fanbase who wants instant gratification and mostly don't care about story/ the setting / whatever.
You're not their targeted audience anymore.
>>336810657
I have moer buyers remorse over Shitout 4 then over Lost Via Domus. And that says a fucking lot.
>>336814763
3
Good game
NV
Great game
4
Bad game.
>>336814763
fun game
fun game
fun game
>>336814871
>Cowboy's paradise
not
>JINGLE JANGLE JINGLE
You dun did wrong there, partner.
>>336814763
>FO3
FIGHT GOOD FIGHT
>FNV
FEELS SOOOO GOOD
>F4
.YES .NO .(SARCASTIC)
>>336815017
That's all fine and dandy in concept but with limited tools and shit like this >>336814552 happening it isn't worth it, plus it murders your framerate.
I'm sure glad I can build empty wooden shacks with 2 beds each before the AI's pathfinding goes out the window.
Fuck, the settlements could have been so good, but all you have to choose are
>metal shack
>wood chack
>metal wall
>wood wall
>light bulbs
>water/electric generators
>beds
>stores
And that's really it. I know you can download Settlements Expanded mods that add a bunch of models, but I'm talking what's purely available to you.
>>336811931
>Generators up high and exposed to enemy fire
come on now
>>336815584
>two words
You dun did wrong there, partner.
>>336815380
Actually, yes they did exist in vanilla 4, you could repair the entire ship for the robots without going out for the most part due to skill checks.
>>336815597
Never had anyone spawn on the backside of the Castle like that, so I'm not worried.
>>336811636
I've spent about 100 hours playing. It can be broken up into three parts:
A) Actually playing the game for a few hours
B) Playing with a friend to alleviate boredrom
C) Spending the rest of time in Minecraft Mode to alleviate what was supposed to be alleviatation for the original boredrom
I spent a fucking fortune buying the game and season pass, no way in fucking hell am I going to just play it for a few hours then let it collect dust.
>>336814034
yeah
souls are shitty too
the combat is boring
>>336815791
i don't know if 80-90 dollars is considered a fortune anon.
>>336816024
this is a childrens board anon
>>336815596
For me the main problem is that it's a fairly deep part of the game (quests dedicated to it, shit to unlock, manage trade routes and sharing resources, etc), but it has no reason for being there. You gain nothing, other than your own satisfaction. If I wanted to build towns I'd play something else.
They could have fixed it by changing the game a bit. Let's say there was no quick-travel - you had to use caravans. That would make towns much more important, as you set up your own "quick-travel" routes throughout the wasteland. Or what about just having special shit for sale in each town, so your invested time actually pays off in the end.
And yes, one can claim that you could just skip it (and I quickly did), but when they've obviously spend time and effort on it, and the rest of the game isn't exactly brilliant, it's ends up being annoying. It's time and effort they could have used better elsewhere.
>>336796921
>barely clinging to life
>Medic 2 required
Nice to see them trying to improve the game, but it seems like they will just disappoint again. Really disappointing that a dev with so many resources doesn't take the opportunity to make something groundbreaking. FO4 took a step backwards in many ways compared to other RPGs and even the previous entries in the franchise.
>>336815662
it's two unique words. May as well use the proper NV experience.
>>336812639
How about speech builds or tech heads?
>>336810396
So I did a small comparsion of firearms in F4 in NV:
Pistols:
F4: 3 different semi-auto pistols (10mm, deliverer, pipe) and one bolt action pipe that is literally the same as semi auto pipe. Uniques are the same thing as originals.
NV: 6 different semi-auto pistols (.45, That Gun, 9mm, 10mm, 12.7mm, .22) not counting 3 uniques with different appearance (Maria, Light shining in Darkness, Lil Devil)
Revolvers:
F4: 2 single action revolvers (.44 "pistol" and pipe revolver). Same animations and different models for both.
NV:1 single action revolver with fixed cylinder (.357) and one double action (.44) and unqiues with different appearance (and tune in case of .44) for each.
Rifles:
F4:4 semi-auto/full auto (combat, assault, railway and pipe rifle), 1 full auto only (submachine gun) 2 bolt actions (hunting and pipe rifle) and one special single shot (syringer)
NV: 4 semi auto (This Machine, marksman carbine, service rifle and sniper rifle) 3 lever action (BB gun, cowboy repeater, trail carbine, brush gun), 9 full auto (Automatic rifle, assault carbine, light machine gun, .45 SMG, 9mm SMG, 10mm SMG, 12.7mm SMG, .22 SMG, nail gun) 3 bolt actions (varmint, hunting and AMR) and almost every single of them has an unique
Shotguns:
F4: one semi auto and one double barrel
NV: single shot, double barrel, lever action, pump action and semi auto and, as always, uniques.
>>336816182
it doesn't matter what kind of build you have, you're still going to need a way to kill stuff.
>>336811390
>>336796921
Isn't that called learning from their mistakes?
They can't exactly go back and re-do the entire game, but at least they can try to apply lessons from player feedback into the DLC for now.
