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>The GTX 1080 will be available for $599 on May 27, and y
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>The GTX 1080 will be available for $599 on May 27, and you can also snag a special NVIDIA-designed "founders edition" for $699 (which looks like it includes a stylish new cooler). Almost as an afterthought, NVIDIA also revealed that the GTX 1070 is coming on June 10 for $379 (the founders edition will run you $449).

Is your wallet and neet bux ready, /v/?

http://www.engadget.com/2016/05/06/nvidias-new-gtx-1080-gpu-is-even-faster-than-the-titan-x/?sr_source=Facebook
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>>336758553
>Is your wallet and neet bux ready, /v/?

I wish it was, but it's going to be like $1100 after tax in Canada and there's no way I'm affording that with NEETbux
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But I just bought a 960.
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>>336758774
>Almost bought the 980ti because it had a sudden price drop

thank god i didnt have enough at the time
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>>336758774

If you're a person who buys x60 cards, then you're never going to buy top end cards anyway.
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Wait for Polaris to drop before you buy this GPU. If AMD's offerings are equivalent or better, Nvidia will drop price by at least 25-30 dollars.
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Just got built a comp with a 970, but if the 1080 delivers I will totally snag one.
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>>336759934
Not only that but a founders edition is a slight red flag.
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>>336759934
While I agree waiting for reviews and/or alternative options all signs so far have pointed to polaris being low and mid tier GPUs until vega releases in late 2016/early 2017. So the 1080 might be your only choice for the high end. The 1070 might face stiff competition though and Nvidia doesn't have anything below $380 yet.
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I don't think I need to upgrade for a while. I can play pretty much anything I want at max settings without frame drops.
When 4K and VR gain traction I guess I'll make the jump.
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>spending $600 on one computer part to play shitty console ports with hackers

Topfuckingkek
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>599 US DOLLARS
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>>336758553
Can it play uncharted 4?
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>>336761015
I'm in this boat.
Got a 970. Have literally zero problems with it, performance-wise. I think I might end up replacing it with another 970 when this one goes belly-up, to be honest. I never game above 1080p anyway.
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>>336758553
I'm actually going to buy a 1070 if it can run Fallout 4 on ultra settings at 60fps, if not i'll buy a 1080
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>>336758553
>A NEW KING
AYO HOL UP
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>>336761052
>>336761052
This is what i don't understand, all they play is fukcing multiplat console ports and mobas and shitpost on any game releassed on console because its not running at 180fps and 4k resolution.

These people literally throw thousands of dollars down the drain
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I think this new card will finally be the one to put the last nail in the AMD coffin.

Nvidia master race always prevails.
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>>336761002

Polaris 11 is Low/Mid Range. 10 is the flagship chip. Just wait for it, it's literally till the end of the month.
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>>336759934
>25 to 30 dollars

Hahahaha

Invest, you fucking morons.
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>>336761269
WAT MY NIGGA YOU DONT THINK THIS CARD CAN FUCK UP AMD'S GAME!?
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I'm alright.
My 980 is fine.
Will look into the 1180 or 1280 though.
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>>336761359

>Invest

Working on that actually. Nonetheless, money saved is money saved. Also, there's no harm in actually waiting to see if AMD's offering actually causes Nvidia to price drop. Don't be such a faggot.
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>>336761434
>1280

see you in 2021 my nig
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So does playing a shitty game with slightly better fps/gfx make it more shit because the shit is in a higher resolution?
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i love how these threads are always filled with broke bros crying about

>just a console port
>i dont want to play with hackers
>i'll stick to my wii-u thank you very much

so great
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>>336761509
Haven't even OC'd mine yet so yeah, see you then m80.
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>>336758553
>that point up top

WHAT'S THAT FROM ABOVE?

A NEW MODEL!?
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>>336761631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it3HVZMSBfY
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>>336761359
An investment is something that will make you money in the long run, buying a $600 lego that lets you play league at 201 fps is not an investment
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>>336759934
>worrying about $30

third world scum
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>>336761682
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>>336759934
>Nvidia will drop price by at least 25-30 dollars.

being a poorfag
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>Buy a new card that will last you for years.
>Buy a whole new console that will only last two years.

Console kids BTFO again.
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Whats the point if it will be outdated in 3-6 months? Cant most toasters play mobas anyways?
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>>336761802
my bad he did ask for sauce, so i gave the nigga sauce.
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ITS CALLED THE GTX 1080 BECAUSE WHENEVER YOU SEE IT YOU DO A 1080 AND WALK AWAY
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>It's an "all pc players do is play assfaggots" shitpost
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>>336758553
>vetical axis doesn't have units
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>>336761903
>nvida
>will last you for years
Top Kek
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>>336762014
poor bird
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>>336761314
damn nvidia just owned AMD in that picture
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>>336762045
5
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3
2
!
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>>336762027
Pretty sure assfaggots is far and away the most played pc game
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>>336762014
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>>336762138
those are integers not units
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>>336762225
Vertical axis can have whatever it wants.
Sky's the limit
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>paid $700 for a 980ti 6 months ago
Just fuck my shit up senpai
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>>336762176
And everyone on consoles play COD?
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>>336762329
ahahahahahahaahah

get rekt faget hahahahahaha
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FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS

PENIS
AND ALSO DICKE AND BALLS
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Alright, /v/. You've shoved it in my face long enough and I think I'm gonna build some sort of a gaming rig.
Where do I start and how much is it gonna cost me as an Ausfag?
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>>336761271
>thousand of dollars down the drain

Like spending hundreds of dollars per game on a console for sub-par 30fps at 720p?
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>>336762490
google.com is a good start in your journey
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I'm using a 660 and have no issues with anything besides unoptimized trash so why the hell would I need it?
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>>336761314
this is 4chan, so I honestly can't tell if you're joking or not
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>>336761271
this much asspain in one peasant
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>>336762490
What's your budget m8?
Unfortunately, it's gonna cost a bit extra due to austaxes.
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>>336762176
And most people on PC also play on laptops or low-tier PCs. While most console players are dudebros who play CoD. What the majority does doesn't matter.
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Is the 1070 a big enough upgrade to replace my 970?
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>>336762709
it's at least 2x as fast for sure
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>>336762709
Don't bother
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>>336758553
All of you shit-eating mongoloids should check /g/ before you post.

Polaris is looking like it's absolutely going to blow this out of the water.

The GTX 1080 does not outperform the 980 Ti.
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>>336762709
wondering the same
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>>336762490
Get some ideas from www.logicalincrements.com

Ask around on /g/ or google, and then look at parts using pcpartpicker.com to get the lowest prices and make sure your build is compatible
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>>336761314
>that image
10/10.
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>>336762374
>>336762683
Confirmed assfaggots
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>>336759934
>If AMD's offerings are equivalent or better

They could include a free blowjob machine, after the fucking endless nightmare that was my 7970, I'm, not touching their shit again.
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>Inb4 1070 is gimped as well
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>>336762773
From that one german benchmark?
Nah, I'll wait until a myriad of different ones come out.
/g/ are also notoriously AMD bias'd as well and still unironically rec the 8350.
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>>336758553
>buying a video card that costs more than an entire console
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>>336762896
stfu
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I can count the number of games that are more graphically demanding/impressive than MGS4 (Release date(s) WW June 12, 2008) on one hand
who the fuck cares
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>tfw I'm still using an AMD 5770 and there is nothing you can do to stop me
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>>336758553
Holy fucking shit is that a graph which almost nobody here has the technical context to understand the implications of? OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYYYYFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKIIIIIIIINNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDD!!!!!!
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>spend 400 bucks on a GPU
>my PS4 sees significantly more use nowadays thanks to all the Japanese games finally coming out of the woodwork
>mfw
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>>336762973
worded this like dogshit, meant new games after it.
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>>336762936
>>336763004
Meanwhile Sonyggers are about to spend more than an enthusiast upgrade on the ps4k come Q4 making it 3 years upgrade as they used to shitpost about for pc friends.
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>>336758959
But there will be 1060 cards later this year too
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>>336763115
deflection is not a defense
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>>336762773
>All of you shit-eating mongoloids should check /g/ before you post.

For what? Comedy factor?

/g/ is the tech worlds Chuckle Barn.
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>>336758553

>relative gaming performance
>1 2 3 4 5

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN
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Gonna wait for 1060 to release. Top end cards are out of my paycheck.
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>>336763004
>Japanese Games
Who cares. USA USA USA USA
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>>336763154
The difference is this card will give you far better performance than any console this generation could even dream of.
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>>336762086
My 670 is 4 years old and has always ran things better than the PS4. It will likely run things better than the PS4K too.
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>>336763213
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBOpbOQsAuA
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>>336763154
Defense from what?
I don't have to rationalize my pc build.
It's done me good, gotten more than my moneys worth and far more than any console purchase, and I saved way more on Steam sales than you ever will on SONY/MS sales.

>he still pays full price for games
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1070 seem to be the best choice honestly. That's a fucking good price for the (supposed) longevity.
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>>336763213
its how many games you can play on each
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>>336761118
Probably... 10 cards will support unified memory model, so it is possible we will see some fine emulation or even cross compiling. Although I bet u4 optimized the shit out of amd graphics at low level, so maybe not
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>>336762896
/g/ mostly hates nvidia and intel because of what they do with software, the hardware they like. Also the 8350 is still pretty acceptable for a budget build but anything more is i5 territory.
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>>336763362
Imma wait for benchmarks
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>>336758553
What's the difference compared to Titan X
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>>336762773
/g/ is literlaly an AMD hugbox. Just a bunch of faggots circlejerking to Keller and Zen nonstop.
>A-AMD will hit H-haswell performance we swear! Intel on suicide watch!
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>>336763486

Yeah there's gotta be a catch desu
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I'll just pick the GTX 1050 when it will be 150$ or less, my 750ti is still going stronk.
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>>336763469
>/g/ mostly hates nvidia and intel because of what they do with software,
Yeah, but it's not like /g/ are huge contributors to the FSF or leading FSF software, let alone hardware. I see the point, but it's still a fucked point.

And half of them still pretend to hate games.
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>>336763469
>/g/ is the source of the neverending meme that Nvidia drivers make older cards worse
I was wondering where that thing came from. Still have yet to ever see any proof of it, only meme spouting retards.
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>>336762878
7970 was a top notch card, though.

Bought one at launch and it was still running everything just fine up to a couple months ago when I upgraded to a 390x because I had some money lying around. I was still able to get 50-60 fps in Witcher 3 at 1080p with Gimpworks off and most things on medium/high just fine. 4 year old card running things much, much better than consoles at a higher visual fidelity as well, not sure what more I could want from it. I didn't have any issues with it during its lifetime either aside from some stuttering in a couple of games, typically Bethesda trash and shoddy ports but that was pretty much gone by the time I got rid of it.
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>>336762973
DaS3 is the first good game I've played that my 650 Ti couldn't get 60 FPS on at max (or almost max sans intensive stuff like AA and shadows) but it's optimized like shit.

HR:Mankind Divided and Bannerlord are pretty much the only games I can see coming out that might make me want to upgrade, thought I might get a 1070 and a new CPU just if I have some spare cash.
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>>336761210
Is Fallout 4 optimization's really that awful?
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>Upgrading from a GTX 660
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tfw i bought a 970 less than a year ago.

Shoot me in the head, bros.
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>>336762014
What the fuck that bird's doing?
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>PASCAL was supposed to be a massive technological innovation which changed video card memory, size, temperatures and power efficiency forever
>It's the same old shit as before

Bravo NVIDIA
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>>336763659
It's the shadow resolution. Without that dynamic shadow mod you'll never be 100% stable 60 on any card in Bawston. A 970+ will power through it usually, but occasionally there will be a stutter or random drop.
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>>336761118
You don,t need a strong card to watch movies on youtube.
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>>336763857
Impress a mate

Birds are insane
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Do these cards support HEVC? I want to see kpop in 4K.
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>>336763857
getting rejected by a picky uppity slut, that's what
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>>336763761
me too, guess i'll just have to use two pcs at once.
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>>336764018
I can watch 265 right now.
It just takes a decent GPU and the right player.
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>>336764018
most of the 900 series does so I dont see why not
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>>336763657
>650ti couldn't get 60 FPS maxed or almost maxed but it's optimized like shit
DS3 was a lot more CPU intensive than previous games.
>http://www.pcgamer.com/durantes-dark-souls-3-port-analysis/1/
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>>336763761
>>336764116
serves your dumbass right
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>almost bought all the parts to build last week
>had to help gf with buying a tire so put it off

Life is kinda cool sometimes.
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>>336763635
The open vs closed nvidia driver is probably responsible for a fair bit of that hate. Meanwhile the hating games thing is a small minority who want /g/ to be a coding forum and a larger minority who hate gpu flame wars.

>>336763637
It's not really that /g/ thinks Nvidia purposefully makes older cards worse, this has been tested and is generally not true. What actually happens is older cards get less improvements from driver updates leading to less gains relative to AMD. Whether this is because of something to do with GCN or just having more room for improvement in their drivers isn't really known though.
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I'll sell my 970 and buy a 1070.

I got a 21:9 1080p monitor so that'll suffice for the next 2-3 years.
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Do we know how the 1070 scores?

It's about time to upgrade from my 2GB 7850.

Also we aren't getting another 3.5GB meme card are we?
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>>336763761
970 isn't going to be obsolete for a long time buddy
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>>336764483
1080 seems like it's ~1.5-2 better so 1070 will probably be just a little over a 980.
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>>336758553
WTF is gaming performance and how is it quantified?
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>>336758553
Maybe, I wonder how much I can sell a GTX 970 for. There is probably going to be a massive price drop for the old cards right?
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>>336764548
This is not the 1080p era anymore, buddy.
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>>336758553
these charts need an axis for "consumer trust"

i think most companies lately should really try paying a little attention to that particular statistic
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>AMD supposed to deliver a card as powerful as a 980Ti with lower power usage for $300
is this really possible?
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>>336764663
I cant imagine a 970 selling for more than $150 after the 1070 being so cheap and im talking brand new not used
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>>336758553
>what a perfect time to upgrade from my 380x

1070 here I come
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>>336764818
we'll have to see
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>>336758553
>it's not that expensive to build your own pc!!
>ps4 is so overpriced at sub-$350, heh, now i must go preorder my new grafix card for $700
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>>336764721
1440p is silly because if you can't get 1440p/60fps, upscaling from 1080p won't look as good. You'll have to upscale from 720p. 4k/60 is hella difficult, but at least 1080p upscaling doesn't look bad. Still, 4k monitors are too expensive for most.
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>>336764193
Native 4K content in HEVC is almost unplayable without a 960.

>>336764237
The 960 is the only card that supports HEVC decoding. The others support HEVC encoding.
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>>336764818
Where can i get 1070 with $80 discount?
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Man, I feel sorry for all those people who didn't wait to build/upgrade for VR. The price of this thing is incredible.
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>>336764892
4K monitors cost less that GTX 1080.
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>>336764895
>having below 9XX
Time for an upgrade m8
Your K-goddesses demand it.
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>>336764356
I'm 100% positive there was a version of this gif where the guy slows down too. Can't find the damned thing right now though.

>>336764437
>older cards get less improvements
Thank you, that is a substantially better explanation than any I have received previously. Doesn't Nvidia normally have better drivers when games launch due to their relationship with developers? It seems like that would be the reason. If /g/ hasn't figured it out after all this time though, then who knows. Thanks again for the information.
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>$100 special edition garbage bin tier reference cooler

nvidia
it's in the game
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>>336764889
The problem is the PS4 is equivalent to a 750Ti, a 2.5 year old $100 card. The PS4 NEO is probably equivalent to an R9 380x, a year old $200 card. The 1080 is better than the 980Ti, the best gaming GPU available atm, and the 1070 will probably be around 980/R9 390x performance.

Basically the difference is night and day, the PS4 NEO is an "upgrade" that's already out of date.
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>599 US dollars
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>>336762225
relative gaming performance points (tm) are a real thing
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>mfw I have an AMD 270

Should I upgrade?
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>>336765096
Yes, Nvidia usually has better performance on Day 1, while AMD gets better performance over time. If you want to be on the bleeding edge with lots of features and support go Nvidia. If you just want performance/dollar go AMD.
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>>336765262
i still don't believe 90% of retards who buy ps4.5 will be able to perceive any actual difference in visual quality. they would "ooo" and "aaa" even if sony placebo'd them
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>>336762086
I've had a pair of 560 Ti's for I don't know how many years now.
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>>336764889
>it's not that expensive to build your own pc!!
If you go mid-tier like 95% of people recommend you do. Things like the 980Ti are enthusiast-tier.

Also free online, steam sales, and pirating :^)
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>>336761776

good goy
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>>336765382
Devs probably won't even optimize the games any better, they'll just use the extra hardware to throw in more particle and lighting effects. Maybe consoles will finally get anti-aliasing.
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>>336758553
Post your face when nvidia saved PC gaming and put consoles in their place.
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>>336762773
how can people justify blowing another $4-700 for a new grafix card, can you seriously tell the difference without nitpicking or scrutinizing?

like where is the fucking ceiling on visual polish? will these extremely minute and near-unnoticable improvements seriously matter to the people who pay for it? or do people just assume if you don't have "the newest" thing then it must be shit?
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>>336762045
Units of gaming performance. Cant you read frogman?
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>>336765689
Thanks Doc.
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>>336758553
>$600 graphics card
I don't work for pixar pham, there is literally no point in buying this for video games. I do need a new graphics card at some point though, $380 is a little steep for me though.
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>>336765096
Ehh it's sort of a case by case basis. When Nvidia is a partner they generally use Nvidia technologies which means they've interacted with the dev team and in these cases Nvidia often has a day 1 driver out yes. But what I'm referring to is that older GPUs, like say the 780ti, see less improvements in new games after driver updates compared to it's then competitor the 290x. The tinfoil response is that Nvidia is actively not improving them in order to make them feel outdated faster. While there's no way to know for sure it's probably more likely that GCN scales back better.

One thing I left out though that /g/ also dislikes is Nvidia's love for proprietary things. Recently they've been more committed to open sourcing stuff (like vrworks) but they still partake in some things like g-sync which is basically trying to lock you into their brand if you want an adaptive sync monitor.
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>>336761210
NIgga i run that shit 60fps 1080 p on my 970.
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>>336765492
why bother listing steam sales next to "stealing"
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>>336765643
Nobody cares about experimental AMD or Nvidia features that tank your performance for a minor increase in detail. The real advantage of upgrading GPU's is higher resolution or >60 FPS. Expect 1440p and 4k to become more popular, also VR performance is greatly increased this gen.
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>>336765689
thanks doc
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>>336765643
Can't speak for loonies who buy a 980Ti and then just play LoL buy high-end cards are good for stuff like triple displays, 4K resolutions and 144Hz monitors. They are absolutely overkill for most things but they have uses.
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will this run games at max settings 4k 60fps?
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I really am not sure what to do, I have sli 780s that I got three fucking years ago (non ti version), they still run pretty great, 4k in quite a few games and runs most maxxed in 1440p.

Was hoping a 1080 would be a big upgrade (not interested in vr), but I'm not actually sure it would be? Anyone?
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>>336766010
>max settings 4k 60fps
maybe on really well optimized games but higher demanding games you might have to turn down some stuff
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>>336766030
Better to wait for the 1080ti versions and see how they perform - fucking pretty well I imagine
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>>336766030
Apparently 1080 is better than SLI 980s. But as always you wait for actual benchmarks.
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>>336766135
Yeah this is what I was thinking, not worth jumping in for a marginal upgrade at the moment. Disappointing though as it always feels like a card is never as good as you hope. I can't believe my three year old cards are still up there.
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>>336761314
Underrated post.
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>>336766184
Only for vr apparently though?
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Would a 1070 you think be enough for Citra/RPCSX3/Xenia once they're fully playable?

I'm a weeb so I mostly upgrade for emulators due to the rarity of weeb ports.
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What resolution and framerate will this run Persona 5 at?
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>>336762709
The 1070 will be just a hair better than the 980 TI - which is a sizeable jump over the 970. That said, if you can wait until next year, I would.
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>>336766385
4k upscaled. Don't know if the engine will allow gameplay above 60fps though.

The ps3 emulator is coming along nicely so I'm glad I don't have to buy a PS4 just to play persona 5.
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>Pascal is shit
>Polaris is shit

Billions of dollars spent on R&D and they came up with a 20% performance improvement over last year's shit
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>>336766010
Depends on the game and mods etc.

Titan X performs battlefield 4 maxed out at 4k around 60 fps. Nvidia says pascal is twice that of a Titan X.

Anyone saying otherwise is burned because they spent tons of money on 980ti's or AMD fans.

Polaris might be really good we have yet to see but if what Nvidia says is true it'll be the best bang for your buck. though expect a bit or a lot of PR polish on some of the shit they said still to be safe.
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>>336766546
Exactly, as I said above I'm fucking disappointed, my three year old non ti 780s aren't really obsolete, it's a joke
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>>336766384
Emulators are mostly CPU-bound, a 1070 would probably be overkill for last gen consoles. Invest in an i7-6700k or Haswell-E/Broadwell-E if you're looking to blow some money..
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This is the first time I've considered running two cards in SLI. I currently have a single GTX 780 and it's done me pretty well, but modern games are starting to hit the 40's at 1440p

How is SLI these days? Still tons of microstutter issues?
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>>336766546
The end of moores law is hitting everyone of us.

GPU speed will slow down from this onwards like the speed of CPU has slown down to a grinding halt.

We won't see any big performance gains until we have graphene processors which will give us HUGE gains. (like 1000x processing power increase at once so prepare your anus for that within 20 years time)
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>>336766521
>The ps3 emulator is coming along nicely
kek, it can't even run disgaea 3 at 2fps without tons of graphical errors.
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>>336765814
I've never put much thought toward open sourced vs. proprietary for myself. I can see why a tech oriented board such as /g/ would want more ability to look at and work with the drivers and software they're using though.

Thank you for the detailed response. I sincerely appreciate it.
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>>336766546
Much better power efficiency however, if new cards can make silent gaming without watercooling possible I'll be pretty happy.
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The fuck kind of retarded graph is that?

>The GTX 1080 is a 4.5 whereas the 980 is a 2.75

What does that even mean?
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>>336763145
And they will still be worse than x70, and x80 cards from 2-3 generations ago.
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>>336766734
Hey, I have sli non ti 780s and even after three years they still don't have many issues, I can run a lot of games in 4k and almost all in 1440p maxxed out. I was looking forward to upgrading, but from seeing the performance increase to the new 1080 I'm just going to wait, pretty pathetic really after three years
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>>336766734
I haven't encountered a lot of stuttering but dev support still isn't that great. Playing a game with day 1 sli/xfire support is rare, it's usually patched in much later.
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>>336766546
>20% performance boost

Where are you getting this from?
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>>336766641
Well I'm a bells and whistle fag.

I like my games in 1080p with shitloads of AA.

Re-rendering and AA is GPU based.

I have a 3570k but I'm waiting for kaby lake at least before I upgrade.
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>>336766521
Just get a ps3 on craigslist or something.
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>>336766737
>The end of moores law
I love this fucking retarded meme
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>>336758553
but i can buy a ps4 and a couple of games for that price.
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>>336767004
It should be the end of Silicon Moores law, not graphene.
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>>336766773
Fuck off Anon. Some of us grew up next to airports, and love the soothing sound of our GPUs hitting jet speed levels of noise output.
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>>336766981
Initial benchmarks
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>>336767131
Graphene doesn't really exist outside of laboratory situations right now.

It might be decades before it can be commercially used.
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>>336767004
Yeah I know it's not actually the end of moores law just the end of the silicon era.

Like switching from vacuum tubes to transistors to the integrated circuit we now need to switch to graphene circuits

We are on the end of the s curve of the A technology (silicon) B is the upcoming graphene circuitry. So yes Moores law will actually continue but not with silicon.
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>>336767253
>might be decades
Then Moores law is kill
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Probably not needed unless you want to run a 1440P or 4k setup. Fucking consoles holding gaming back. You cannot have 5-7 years between console upgrades.

There was a few seconds of game play in the BF 1 video at around 0:28. We could have nice games like that but there is no fucking way these already outdated consoles can run that so it will be nothing like what you see in the videos.
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When will they release the new Quadro card?
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>>336767398
No moores law is not kill if it stops for a couple of decades. If the new technology has a 1000x increase in performance it actually fits on the exponential curve as if the trend had always continued. The difference is that we won't really have any real improvements in those 2 decades so that will suck. But the graphene circuitry huge powerboost will still keep it on the moores law track.
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The only game I care about having the best graphics for is Mankind Divided, which is being developed for AMD hardware and I have a 290X, so I am good
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>>336758774
I just bought my 770
2 years ago
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>>336767398
It has been for quite some time.
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>>336767504
>W-well i can play it on previous gen!

Dude. Did you even read my post?
Let's see the PS4 pull off persona 5 on 4k 60fps alright?
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>>336767426
>consoles holding gaming back
I was playing Fallout 3 on PC a 1200p, but had to go down to 1080p and then even lower because GPU development has been slow as fuck!

Take an i7 920 and pair it with a 8800 GT and that is what it has felt like for the past decade.
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>>336767535
>No moores law is not kill if it stops for a couple of decades.
The law says it has to double. If it is not doubling in like 2yrs, then it is kill.
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>>336767504
I'm not a dumbass who brags about 60FPS or whatever. I own multiple consoles and a PC because it gives the best and widest range of games.

PS3 emulator is never coming out but a remake of Persona 5 is not a high point for the PS4.
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>>336767656
I thought Fallout 3 had horrid optimization
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>>336761903
>Nvidia
>will last for years

Planned obsolescence for an Nvidia card is 2 years after launch anon, after that Njewdia will driver nerf you in latest games that has partnership with them
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>>336766734
3gb just isn't enough man. Unless you have a 6gb model you might as well just upgrade.

t. a 780 owner who maxes VRAM usage all the time nowadays.
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>>336767883
No, just the gpu's sucked! CPU took it all like a champ.
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>>336766776
It means GRAPHIX Anon
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>>336767656

Well Bethesda is garbage and release unfinished bugged out games with shitty optimization. FO3 was the worst out of the three newest ones. FO4 is better but still chugs to 20-24 fps under load for consoles, its fucking sad.
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>>336767710
Look at pic related. there is never a real double every 2 years. The curve is still exponential because if 1 processor is not double but lets say 150% then the next processor will be 300% to make up for it making the growth exponential and thus following moores law.

If we have no data points for 20 years but after 20 years we have a 1000-5000x more powerful processor than the line you'd draw would still be exponential and thus follow moores law. It technically still doubled every 2 years for all intents and purposes but just "didn't have a release".

TL;DR the data points are variable but the trend is always exponential double every 2 years. If the graphene processor comes out in 20 years with a power increase of 1000-5000x then it will mean moores law never ended.
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>>336767656
>Take an i7 920
Heh i had one of those for YEARS at 3.x Ghz+ with HT and nothing could touch it.

Put a 290 with it once before it blew the whole system up.

Unforunetly the current gen consoles CPU's are so BAD you might as well stick two phenom x4's together at 1.6ghz with a 7870 and thats current gen consoles

No wonder they cant crack 30fps
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>>336758553
help me out bros

>sell gtx 970 now
>buy a 1080 in a month

Is it worth the hassle? I normally play on 1080p but sometimes I play games with a 3d monitor which is also 1080p. The only game that gives me trouble is GTA V if I try to max out everything.
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>>336762086
I had an 8800 GTX that lasted me from release until I built and new computer in 2013. I have a 780 GTX still in that build. the 8800 almost lasted me 7 years. stay mad console/poor fags
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>>336768276
I still have my 8 year old i7 920.

I bet intel regretted making such a good line of processors. Now no one buys their crap anymore.
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Is this to make up for the last fiasco?

You know, THAT one?
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>>336768359
The problems with GTA, specifically stuttering, are caused by the 970's ram problem. The 1070 will probably make you happy if it isn't gimped.
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>>336768140
dang why dont we just use mouse brains for cpu's?
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>>336768140
Are we stumbling into an era where in our lifetime computers will be better shitposters than us?

What will we do when computers take our shitposting jobs?
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>>336758553
Nah my 2 970s are plenty enough for my Vive right now
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>>336768276
What happened to your setup? I'm currently running an I7 920 @ 3.67 and a 290 and it runs like a dream
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>>336768487
Intel only cares about mobile shit now god damn it. Worse all the "energy efficiency" crap they keep stuffing in there makes their CPUs flimsier and less reliable and more of a PITA for any OS to deal with.
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>>336768678
>Vive
>posting angry joe

Leave.
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>>336761604
Uh, you realize Wii U and PC are allies, right? Friendly fire isn't allowed here.
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>>336768579
The problem with using biological brains for computing is that every pair of brains is unique. So the software written for them has to be specific for that brain. Which is bullshit. But i'm pretty fucking sure at least the chinese government and probably some black ops US military have some comatose donated brains and have written software for it to scan and interpret satellite data for military interventions.
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>>336764721
>he plays games at less than 120fps

Lol moron

I bet you post on pcmasterrace and /g/ too
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>>336758553
>$599
My guess is that it's gonna be $1000+ in malpesyrup bux, because they know they can get away with it. Guess that's another card I'm skipping.
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>>336768776
This, it's PCtendo Master Race here. If I had a picture of Gaben summoning Iwata as his stand, I'd post it.
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Why should I upgrade when my 570 still works great?
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>have a titan X
>it will twice its perfomance
Ill wait for the benchmarks.
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>>336758553
>now you can play Rocket League at 500fps at 4k instead of 300fps

What games are even coming out that are graphically demanding enough to upgrade from something like a 980ti to the 1080? I think Nvidia should release some better optimized drivers. I'm getting sick of this shit.
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>>336768502
They didn't improve IPC = it is same shrinked maxwell

with same TDP because muh 2ghz or it won't perform as fast or competition
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>>336769043
Niggerfield 1
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FUNKY FUNKY TURNIPSFUNKY FUNKY TURNIPS
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>>336758959
560ti was fucking great when it came out.
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They waited for 80% market to go full jew with founders editions. This is apple all over again, GPU market is fucked beyond repair this time.
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>>336769043
VR. It's why I was thinking about getting a 980Ti, and another along the way towards the Vive, but now I am concidering a 1080 instead.
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>>336769353
and AMD trashed it that gen
we just didn't know better in 2011
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>>336768824
that's creepy as shiit. imagine being a comatose brain that's just some shadow governments computer for the rest of your brain life.
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>>336760692

whats this shit anyways? you get another cooler oh wow i would buy a custum build evga,msi or whatever anyways.

i have a evga gtx970 (day1 btw) and will wait what amd bring on the table this time.
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>>336769043
One day you'll be able to click that skeleton. We just don't have the technology yet.
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>>336769582
are you one of those faggots that think body has any kind of value after person's death?
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>>336769712
The brains are the persons themselves.
>>336769582
They are actually doing these shit for a while now It'll reach the surface one day like those lobotomies of the 50's sound so absurd right now.

Things like this:
http://www.iflscience.com/brain/biotech-company-use-stem-cells-reactivate-brains-dead
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>been enjoying the 980ti performance for the past month and a half
>mfw getting the 1080 through EVGA's step up program
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>>336769692
Probably no partner cards. Meaning low yield rumors maybe true.

Basically we'll be lucky to get the cards in august at this rate, after thousands of reviewers and high priority markets.
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>>336769917
imagine PC running without monitor or keyboard
it makes it worthless
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>didn't even get my gtx 970 working completely before its replacement is announced

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>336769695
>played on low detail because my piece of shit windows 98 in 2004
>never got to hear the kickass music in this game until years later
>tfw no nostalgia over the music

not even this 5 can cheer me up
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>>336770131
you could have fallen for the titan x meme like I did
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>>336758553
FIRST I want to see the AMD cards.
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>>336758553
>buy NVIDIA

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA nice one op
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>>336770331
how does it feel to lose in real benchmarks to 390?
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>>336768712
Yeah im done with Intel

my i5 4690 is great but im not going to bother
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