>you have to level up 5 times in every NG cycle for an NPC to appear
i fell for the miyazaki meme again
>>336674761
tfw can't get duel bow because I capped my PvP character
T-thanks from
Which NPC?
>>336674939
Yuria the Bitch
>>336674921
And you have to pay a gorrillion souls to cure hollowing without Yuria.
True, luckily I finished her questline at SL 125 then stopped leveling
>>336674761
>tfw you literally cannot complete a questline if you want to cap your level
>>336674761
What's the problem here? Pilgrim-bro grants you a free level every two deaths. Just level once, kill yourself twice right outside the Shrine and return to him before continuing. Time consuming, but it works.
>>336675401
the problem is people intentionally stop at specific levels to keep the PvP community as active as possible.
>>336675401
I don't want to level up and get out of PvP range.
>Hardly died much
>As a result didn't get "power within level ups" from Yoel
>the one I did get gave me the dark sigil and I thought it was bad so I removed it with fire keeper cus I didn't know what it was and didn't want it to bite me in the ass
>Find out that by doing that, I've completely ruined an entire quest line
Plus
>all those weapons and armor sets locked by NPC invasions
>I only embered before fog gates for the extra health
>can't get those armors now because boss is dead
What the fuck From
>>336675535
>you can't get invaded when the boss is dead
Do they keep shitty mechanics from Dark Souls 1 for nostalgia too? Like blocking with a weapon in your left hand? Like some of the weapons being yet again useless just like in DS1?
>>336675535
>not walking around embered all the time
It's not like you'll ever get invaded by an actual person while going around solo.
>>336675658
I didn't see a point to it, I didn't summon at all the entire game
>>336674761
>people actually go hollow aka shit skin in Souls.
>>336675771
>more HP
It made some bosses take 3 hits to kill me instead of 2.
>>336675535
>all those weapons and armor sets locked by NPC invasions
It's a great system though, if you're kindled than you should be able to find more loot.
>>336675525
the pvp range is like 200-300
>>336675942
There is no disadvantage to being embered since solo invasions almost never happen.
Most people stay in NG or only go into NG+ or maybe ++ if they really want those +2 rings. It's easy to plan around it now that you know about it.
I don't know anyone who goes NG+7 with a pvp character.
>>336675981
>the pvp range is like 200-300
>>336675001
If you go to the next NG, it cures your hollowing. Can save souls that way. Doesn't matter much, if it's the apperance you can just put a ring or use a purging stone.
>>336676102
this is true my main is 190 now and I get more invasion than as low level.
Reminder: If you level higher than 80 you are no longer invading. You are just pvping with chuckle fucks who are standing around waiting for a fight
Doesn't resetting your stats also reset your level?
>>336676315
No, you can change your stats but you have to use all the levels contained withing the level you are currently at. You can't delevel yourself.
1. Do her quest on your first NG so you never need to do it again
2. Compensate by calculating the 5 levels up into your build during the planning phase
3. stop being such a try hard piece of shit and just play the game.
>>336676156
>If you go to the next NG, it cures your hollowing.
it doesnt
>>336676520
>3. stop being such a try hard piece of shit and just play the game.
but thats the only way to play videogames
>>336675535
>all those weapons and armor sets locked by NPC invasions
Some show up on corpses after beating bosses
>>336676520
>tfw did everything related to the quest right the first time without knowing/looking up shit
>got married and everything
>saw 8 dark sigils
>hell to the fuck nah
>cure them
>quest fucked
>look it up when I beat the game and realize how I fucked
I was already at PvP level when I beat it too.
Five characters in and I've never once gotten Patches to appear at Deacons or had Onion bro leave his well
Played the whole game embered and still ended up mssing half the NPC invasions because of arbitrary bullshit that I had no way of knowing
Miyazaki is a fucking hack
>>336675275
>wanting to cap your level
Lel look at these plebs
>>336674761
Why would you need Yuria any more after the first time you meet her in a new game? Don't tell me you fucked her quest multiple times
>>336676608
It does, you lose the Dark Sigil. Every items in your "Key" tab is lost.
>>336676990
but you're still hollowed?
>>336676990
I was hollowed in NG+ after doing the Hollow ending and had to cough up about 570000 souls to remove it
>>336677017
Nope. It cures it. Dark Sigil is necessary for Hollowing.
I went to NG+ 2 days ago after the Usurper ending. So i can confirm.
So I drew power until Yoel died,what do I do now?
>>336677132
You sure mate? I was still hollow in ng+.
>>336676990
Dark Sigil carries over, I got 5 more levels in NG+ and had to pay for 10 levels worth of souls to cure it
>>336677180
Kill the Edge Watchers.
>>336677186
>>336677197
>>336677125
Well i'm sure. I can even screenshot it. Maybe it's the patch version then? I'm using the release 1.03.
>want to male a cosplay build
>want proper bow emote
>but also want sunset set
Fuck off from, other games mutually exclusive quests never had this many rewards.
>>336677316
Why are you still on 1.03?
>>336677235>not "Anime Watchers"
>>336677407
Was doing a magic run and don't know if the magic was buffed or nerfed after the patches since they are obtuse about it on the notes. And since i have no trouble with it i kept on using it.
>>336675535
>What the fuck from
you're pissed because your actions had fucking consequences? holy shit stop being such a pathetic vanilla bitch
>One of the gestures is learned from an npc invader that's in a popular invasion area
>>336677386
This shit pissed me off too. I wanted to get all the gestures and rings in NG+ but can't now because I fucked up the first game by joining Rosaries fingers and not getting the Silver Cat ring. Now I won't be able to get Proper Bow and the stupid ring without going into another new game
>>336677536
But the thing is you have no way of knowing you are fucking up a quest or what the dark sigils are or that armor is locked behind NPC invaders. It's kind of bullshit
>>336675525
Then don't, retard. You only miss out on one possible ending.
>>336674950
Yuria of Londor. You essentially NEED to Level up 5 times from a certain NPC to get her to appear.
>>336677612
you have to get into ng++ anyway for all the rings
You guys are salty because things were obtuse in a souls game. Fucking bravo what a bunch of brain wizards we have here
>>336677186
>>336677125
Hollow and Dark Sigil are two different things. NG+ removes Dark Sigil, but you will still be Hollow if you did not use a purging stone to cure that. Just use a purging stone and it will remove the Hollow stat.
Paying to remove the curse cures both the Dark Sigil and Hollow; it's a waste of money if you don't have the Dark Sigil.
>>336677674
You mean like how the armor of thorns was locked behind killing Kirk the 3 times he invaded you
>>336677764
hahaha its shit on purpose hahaha look im retarded hurrrrrrrrr
>>336677734
What ring is in ng++ that isn't in the others?
>>336677612
>>336677386
>>336676812
>Things are missable or have particular requirements
>WAAAHHH FUCK FROM, SHIT GAME
and yet people like you fucking complain that "all games nowadays are linear casualized trash"
THIS IS THE ANSWER
YOUR ACTIONS IN THE GAME HAVE CONSEQUENCES, THOSE CONSEQUENCES CAN BE NEGATIVE, AND YOU MUST DEAL WITH THEM
STOP. FUCKING. BITCHING.
>>336677825
It was shit there too Anon, do you think I'm defending that also?
>>336677858
some +2 variants and a +3 life ring
There's actually this guide to get all the stuff in order if you want to try it
https://zkjellberg.github.io/dark-souls-3-cheat-sheet
>can no longer parry with your hand if you're carrying a Greatsword
what the fuck
>>336677816
ahh thanks mate
>>336677863
the problem is that these consequences are completely arbitrary and you can't possible know what will happen unless you read a guide
>>336677863
An NPC fucking off just because you joined a covenant is pretty fucking dumb. That was my only gripe with the game
>>336677816
Oh that's it. I think i used a purging stone before going to NG+. And like you said, it removes Dark Sigil and you won't go hollow again after dying.
So here's a tip if you didn't bought a purging stone from Yuria: there's one in the Profaned Capital at the poison swamp before the capel with handface monsters. So use it before going to NG+.
>>336677569
I missed this because I wanted to avoid the watchdogs.
Then joined the watchdogs and found this npc many times while invading. Fuck.
>>336677967
The ring achievement counts the + rings as well?
>>336677840
Yeah you are retarded
>>336678190
yes, atleast thats what I read, haven't gotten the achievement yet
>>336677878
It's not helping you since there is precedence. Why would people want to avoid the NPC invasions anyway?
>>336677863
except there's no way to even know where something will make the game decide "oh well guess ur not getting this npc anymore ;^)"
like being locked out of the mad covenant by killing the second fucking boss in the game
>>336678048
That's not a problem. Games used to have secrets that needed to be discovered. All the previous Souls games are "solved" too. Complaining a new game isn't completely described somewhere and COMPLAINING that you don't know everything means somewhere you lost you're desire to discover new things in the games you play.
>>336677863
Not really the complaints are more that the NPCs and Devs really fail to communicate to you what they want. Its pretty obvious accepting Yoels offer puts you on the evil ending but from there everything is just poorly explained to the player. You don't even get Cunt's line about being a dork moon until far later than when you meet the red invader covenant. Its just bad game design. If choices and consequences is what they were going for, they should have clearly outlined the choices and hinted at the possible consequences so players could make informed decisions related to the character they were making
>>336678217
not as retarded as you though :')
>>336678305
The thing that I'm getting at is not even being aware of NPC invasions, I'd prefer it be Black Phantoms like DS2 had
>>336678071
How is that dumb? Sirris shittalks Rosaria'a Fingers constantly. You join Rosaria's Fingers and *offer Rosaria fucking tongues, pledging allegiance*, and Sirris says fuck you.
What part of that, exactly, is dumb?
>>336678048
No, you're complaining that they're DIFFICULT. They're not impossible, but someone smarter than you or I can get them right without a guide. I accept that I'm not observant enough to figure it all out on the first playthrough.
In hindsight? With Yuria calling you "Lord of Hollows" it makes sense that she'd be pissed about you curing hollowing.
Of all the things to complain about in this game you're complaining that NPCs actually have some agency, personality and quest lines this time around rather than being merchants you find that sit in the hub doing nothing for the rest of the game?
What exactly does hollowing do anyway?
I heard you take more damage
>>336678190
No
>>336677878
So you're saying you didn't learn your lesson from the first time.
>>336678480
I had no idea what Rosarias covenant even was upon discovering her and joining. And Sirris doesn't mention Rosaria before you discover her I don't think
>>336674921
>>336675275
>>336675519
>>336675525
>b-but I wanted to c-c-cap my level...
Then fucking level another character with the knowledge that you have to do this shit if you want to unlock everything. You can get Yoel as soon as you beat Vordt.
Or go to NG+ because 5 levels isn't going to send you too far away from those lower level characters you want to invade.
>>336676672
Amusing that the Wrath of the Gods is selected for this screenshot
>>336678480
>In hindsight? With Yuria calling you "Lord of Hollows" it makes sense that she'd be pissed about you curing hollowing
I never had the chance to talk to her, yoel died before because I didn't know that he dies when I cure the hollowing
>they weren't reading the dark souls 3 reddit
>whine they don't understand the obtuse npc quests
I even got reddit gold for a few of my explanations lmao, you faggots don't even have upvotes and are too stupid to figure the game out :vD
>Check my messages
>Some of them have been turned into "Huh... its a crab"
The fuck?
>>336678048
>can't possible know what will happen unless you read a guide
Who do you think wrote those guides? How do you think they learned? Try experimenting and exploring. God forbid you don't get everything in one playthrough.
>>336678708
Is that what kills him? I thought using the free level up from him is what kills him after too many times, he died on my but I never cured my hollowing
>some nigga gives me free levels
>some bitch appears after nigga dies and offers waifu
>other nigga says your waifu ready
>penetrate waifu
>other nigga also ded
>remove armor and discover I'm beef jerky
>2+2
Granted I did this without even knowing, the steps are still pretty convoluted. Almost ruined onion bro quest while succeding on this one.
>>336678387
When you make decisions in real life, the possible consequences are not hinted at. They just happen, and then you can see how in hindsight.
>>336678335
if you'd explored undead settlement fully, you wouldn't have missed it. I found the creepy cage guy singing something about "climb into a cage," so when i snuck up on a monster with a cage I climbed in and woo, covenant
Why are casuals unable to comprehend that the mystery and secrecy of these games are an intrinsic part of what make them so unique and interesting
>>336678480
She shit talks them after the fight on the bridge. You can get to Rosarias Fingers before that, and you even have to beat Deacons to get to the bridge fight.
>>336678679
>I didn't talk to Leonhard, an NPC who automatically shows up in the shrine, and it's the game's fault for not spoon-feeding me
>>336678679
You're right she doesn't bring them up until you get to Irithyll and beat Creighton with her.
Then she says "Mm, I have not thanked you, for your generous rescue.
That Dark Spirit was one of Rosaria's Fingers. Vile bastard offspring who lurk in the darkness.
My sworn enemies.
Fearsome invaders, to say the least.
I would not have made it alone. You have my deepest gratitude."
I got Yuria in my first playthrough
git gud
>>336678850
Where the fuck was Leonhard?
>>336678793
He dies if you take 5 levels from him or if you reach abyss walkers(he dies regardless of you getting your five levels or not). Curing the sigil only makes him not want to share true strenght with you anymore
>>336678793
He always dies. The trigger is killing Abyss Watchers. Doesn't matter if you leveled with him or not.
>>336678907
Leaning against Lothric's throne.
Pretty sure he stands there forever until you talk to him.
>>336677863
They're millennials anon, the concept of responsibility and accountability are foreign to them.
>>336678907
Next to Lothric's throne in Firelink. He gives you cracked orbs, you invade someone and having the covenant reward in your inventory has him give you the key to get the full orb, then once you get it he tells you about Rosaria
>>336674761
Why would you want Yuria to appear if you're not going for The Lord of Hollows Ending? Plus if you get the five levels early curing hollowing is ez.
>in order to get the proper bow gesture you have to break sirris' questline, turning in a pale tongue to rosaria for respeccing or changing appearance does not count
>this is the only questline in the entire game like this
really don't get why they did this
>>336678758
>He doesn't know about the Crablord covenant
>Logged out and got permanently Crablorded
>>336678907
On the side of the big throne that you have no reason to ever go near by the time he shows up. It was halfway through the game before I found him.
>>336679070
You're a millenial too you cuck, 1980-2000
bet your world's turned upside down now :')
>>336679014
I had no reason to go up there so I didn't know he was there, and as >>336678883
Mentioned, Sirris doesn't mention Rosaria until Irrithyl, so the game essentially fucks you over when you join Rosaria without knowing what her covenant is.
>>336679163
No i'm not.
>>336679086
But doesn't Yuria give you proper bow?
>>336679206
Then you're way too old to be on here you fucking loser faggot
>>336679243
We're all loser here anon. Welcome home.
>>336679221
she gives you dignified bow
yellowfinger heysel gives you proper bow but you can't summon her unless you have killed her in an invasion and turned in a pale tongue to rosaria
>>336679154
But you have reason to if you explored the area. Manlet king talks about that transpoting thing, you get it, return there and voila, bloodborne dude is there.
>>336679070
dude i'm a millenial too, they're just average people who won't or can't try to understand slightly difficult concepts like "My experiencing permanent negative consequences due to mysterious factors is an intrinsic and appealing part of the character of this series."
>>336679295
whoa so true... i'm screencapping for /r/4chan :D
Beyond the levels is there an advantage to go hollow? I'm around level 45 and haven't done it yet.
>>336679164
>I had no reason to explore the hub despite knowing that random NPCs show up unannounced after Sirris arrives
You should have figured out that checking back would be worthwhile.
>The game fucks you over for joining a fucking covenant without knowing what it is
No shit, covenants aren't meant to be joined lightly you fucking retard. Do you join every organisation you're asked to without knowing what it is first?
Why do so many people complain about a quest being a bit harder to get blind? Why do you guys even feel the need to complete all quests in one playthrough? Souls games are meant to be replayed, just do them on another playthrough or NG+. You don't fuck up anything major either; if you are going for the achievements you'll have to get the other two endings at some point anyway, makes no difference if Lord of Hollows is your first one or not.
And yes, it's completely possible to get it blind (and actually likely I believe). It happened to me. Basically happens automatically if you explore and regularly talk to the people at fireshrine, the biggest hurdle being to not click the "cure sigils" option.
>>336679417
Completing the quest unlocks a secret ending.
>>336679417
you get extra luck when you're fully hollow on fully upgraded hollow infused weapons (+5 luck for each +10 hollow infused)
>>336679336
>If you fight an optional boss and then accidentally go up the right staircase instead of the left, close staircase to talk to Ludleth you might see Leonhard.
Wew.
>>336679417
If you haven't beat Abyss Watchers yet, no there isn't a down side. If you have, it's too late for it
One thing that definitely bothers me in DaS3 is the number of events/NPCs/etc that you can miss permanently if you just to happen to pass a critical event.
For instance, reach the Abyss Watchers before using yoel to level up 5 times? He dies and Yuria never appears. And there are plenty of other examples of event horizons where you pass and unwittingly seal yourself off from a bunch of stuff. A similar issue is how difficult it is to encounter certain NPCs in the first place. In DaS1, none of the main NPCs were super-hidden like they are in this game. You're GOING to run into solaire and laurentus and lautrec in all likelihood.
These sort of issues won't be big deals on replays, but the first time through the game, the world feels empty because you're missing a ton of the NPCs
>>336679568
Even still, after seing npcs come and go you should know better. Checking for new people or where is that new dude you just recruited is something everybody does.
>>336679649
This isn't true at all. If you don't explore you won't find shit, it's true in 1 and in 3. It's also the way it should be.
>>336679568
1. You're a faggot if you don't kill every single boss you come across
2. There are treasures hidden all around Firelink, some of which includes a key you need 20000 souls to buy.
3. Like lmao nigga look up he right there lmao
If you missed him, its your fault.
>>336679649
Well solaire is kinda mandatory for unlocking co op. You could miss the other two even if they aren't super hidden.
>>336678519
>What exactly does hollowing do anyway?
>I heard you take more damage
No, you don't take extra damage. It has literally no effect beyond an aesthetic change.
>>336679720
>After completing an arbitrary section of the game, you should have known to check for an NPC you've never even seen before tucked away in a place you've already explored.
The only NPC that "comes and goes" outside of Leonhard is Sirris, who shows up right in the middle of Firelink, and Eygon who is a package deal with Irina. Everyone else you actually meet beforehand and they all head to the lower level of firelink near the other NPCs that you are likely to visit.
>>336679480
When inside of Rosarias Chambers, there is no indication of what her covenant even is or what it might be if you are playing blind. I thought she was probably like a Cathedral defender covenant or something like that, considering she wasn't an edge lord looking person like the invader covenant usually has.
>>336679941
Not true, you get curse build up faster
>>336678519
You turn ugly.
>>336679874
That's what I meant. You could TECHNICALLY miss all of them, but the ways of finding them weren't obtuse whatsoever.
And if you missed them, you could always go back and find them later. It's not like they permanently disappeared and aborted their quest lines if you didn't find them at the right moment.
>>336679856
>1. You're a faggot if you don't kill every single boss you come across
I'm not a wiki reading fuck so I beat most of the game before I even took that path.
>2. There are treasures hidden all around Firelink, some of which includes a key you need 20000 souls to buy.
Which I got when I went there the first time.
Is it really so hard to believe that someone could find Rosaria and break Sirris's questline before Leonhard tells them about Rosaria?
>beat dancer solo with profaned GS
>feeling good, decide I want fire witch set
>die over and over to pontiff knights while trying to kill fire witches
>>336680021
Do you? My mistake then.
>>336679963
That nigga thiefalso c
Goes if you send him. Crestfallen 3.0 does too.
Patches is up there as well.
If you got the key for the tower you are likely to go down near the fucking throne. Hell, maybe you wanted to go up and check the tree of giants for a seed and took the wrong stairs?
Sorry dude, I just don't know how to explain it to you so you don't feel blind and stupid, retard.
>>336679480
Covenants only had consequences in DaS1, and that's if you abandoned it. DaS2 if I remember correctly doesn't punish you for joining and abandoning covenants at all.
It's the same in this game except that one covenant. I'd be fine if Sirris said that Rosarias was evil and whatnot, but she doesn't tell you that after the fight on the bridge.
>>336680230
This. This right here. Also who the fuck doesn't routinely check around the hub after every boss or major event to see what has changed? That's been a thing since DS1.
>>336680213
You beat most of the game before going through the designated undead village path and seeing the giant obvious boss door.
>Which I got when I went there the first time.
You didn't there is still shit there you havent gotten. Hell there is treasure right now not even in Firelink but outside of it that you havent gotten
No, its fully likely someone that did zero exploration would have a problem like that
>>336677235
Shit im actually right at that boss fight and havent beaten it, can i still level up through him?
>>336680217
Pontiff knights are the parry check. If you havent learned to parry by then, you're gonna have a bad time
>>336679649
I really liked how Solaire or Siegmeyer would reach an end one way or another, so you have a good story even if you fail, but in 3 if you beat a boss too early, progress a questline too much or join a covenant you only find an NPC hates later they just vanish.
Anri is a good quest, it only fails should you attack her. Miss Horace? You get some nice new dialogue in the next area and you can still find her in the end. Kill or miss the pilgrim? Get the items anyhow. It's a quest that adapts to your choices instead of suddently ending.
>>336680415
Nah. I'm at the final boss and I haven't parried a single time in the entire game.
>>336679824
I've been exploring the shit out of Dark Souls 3 and most of the NPC quests so far have been failed. Geirat literally died on his second pillaging because I decided to go to that dungeon bonfire near pontiff's castle area. Fuck this cryptic shit man.
>>336675519
>>336676102
that's bullshit, you're trying to convince anyone that 5 early levels ruin your pvp range? Do you even own the game or you just parrot some retarded shit to shitpost?
High level pvp was always a thing. It's like the same retards that cried about SM and the agape ring as if there is a difference.
>>336680493
You're an idiot. You were supposed to meet Patches in the catacombs, and if not he even makes a reappearance at the tower behind Firelink if you go in there.
Then you choose to forgive him and Patches becomes a merchant. Then he says how he knows Greirat. When you send Greirat out to forage for loot the second time, go talk to Patches. He'll say how he's been gone for awhile and he should go look for him.
Patches saves Greirat and there you go. Do NOT send him out a third time, he will die regardless.
>>336680472
Yeah, Anri's questline was well done and was very DaS1-like. The others were obtuse and you're highly lilkely to permanently fail them and have everyone disappear just because you didn't realize you passed a seemingly unrelated event flag.
The only similar situation in DaS1 was permanently missing out on Kaath/Darkwraiths if you decided to place the lord vessel with frampt.
>>336680415
Or spend STR for greatshield. Watch them suffer.
>>336680637
>Patches
>Catacombs
>>336680230
>That nigga thiefalso c
>Goes if you send him. Crestfallen 3.0 does too.
You're a dumb fuck, mate. I already talked about the thief and Crestfallen never "comes" he is already there in plain sight. No other NPC, except perhaps Patches admittedly, just "shows up". Even Patches has an event preceding his arrival and by that point you'd have already found Rosaria.
You're the idiot claiming that it is completely obvious that joining Rosaria's fingers breaks Sirris's questline when neither she nor Leonhard will tell you about it until it's too late in a majority of playthroughs.
>>336680762
Was it not the catacombs? I missed his first location and has to meet him at Firelink tower, so i don't quite know his original location. If not catacombs, where was it?
>>336680217
>the closest fire witch to the church bonfire is alone
>still dies to knights
????
>>336680831
Cathedral of the Deep in DaS3, Catacombs in DaS1
>>336680939
Ah okay, my bad.
>>336680637
Go fuck yourself, Doing this blind it's fucking impossible to know. Why do I have to be in specific areas at a specific time of the game and talk to people in a specific order just so that one faggot doesn't die. I thought Dark souls was suppose to be against linearity bullshit but I guess I was wrong.
>>336680990
Easy mistakes
>>336680350
>You beat most of the game before going through the designated undead village path and seeing the giant obvious boss door.
Yes, I went to the road of sacrifices, the actual path you need to go to complete the game.
>You didn't there is still shit there you havent gotten. Hell there is treasure right now not even in Firelink but outside of it that you havent gotten
Are you retarded? Of course I got it all, and after I beat the game I checked the wiki to make sure I got it all. The only thing I missed was the illusory wall up there.
>>336681027
>Why do I have to be in specific areas at a specific time of the game and talk to people in a specific order just so that one faggot doesn't die.
That's literally half the npc questlines from Dark Souls 1. Nobody whined about Siegmeyer's quest. What if you missed finding his daughter because it never told you to? What if you missed going down to Ash Lake with him? What if you missed finding him in the demon ruins?
Nobody complained about Petrus and that girl in the parish either. How were you supposed to know he'd kill her? Did you get buttmad when he did? Fuck this game for not telling me everything!
What about Lautrec? How were we supposed to know he was going to kill the Firekeeper? How would we know where to find and invade him?
You're just a dumb faggot.
>>336681087
Oh it makes sense now, you're a guide user. That explains why you didn't fight the Undead Village boss
>>336680415
Or just get a decent shield and block their attacks.
>>336680415
or just use a UGS/great axe/great hammer and stunlock them to death. Or use a buffed raw ASS which does the same thing.
>>336680415
I cant parry for shit but I swear thralls give me more trouble than pontiff knights. I absolutely cant get parries to work in pvp. and I barely scrape by when trying to parry in pve. I have never parried a pontiff knight. parrying has never ben required for anything.
>m-muh timing
just let it go
>>336681243
Not that anon, but these are the same reasons I didn't like Dark Souls 1, and only ever finished it once.
Demon's Souls and DS2? Several play-throughs. I want to choose the pace and direction of my exploration. If the game is going to lock me out of NPC shops or endings or whatever because of that, then fuck the designers. Invisible unexplained event flags are not excusable.
>>336681243
Why even bother, you're just another Fromfag who will suck the cum dry from Miyszaki's dick if he asked you. Enjoy being a brainless drone Fromnigger.
>>336680637
I've done 8 runs through the game and i've never seen patches in cathedral, always just use the tower.
>>336680415
wut? R1 spam the non-shield ones, weapon art the shield ones. give no fucks about them.
>>336681398
>You're a guide user because you found the easy, obvious path and chose to complete those areas first.
If I was a guide user, wouldn't I have fought the easy boss to get my kiln earlier? Think for five fucking seconds.
>>336681243
Pretty much this. Did you guys even play the first game? Quests in DaS always where like this.
>>336681478
>>336681504
>anon presents an argument
>other anon counters argument with evidence that this is just how the games work
>first anon proceeds to insult me
Yeah, nice rebuttal. And you're a Dark Souls 2 fan as well? Okay.
>>336681243
>defending the game where dickwraiths were locked behind a late game boss and only become available if you don't talk to the massive snake monster that you will most likely talk too
Thank christ I killed Kiln at level 83
Now I can kill Yuria with my big fat cleaver
>>336681578
>Hmnnn big 'ol door here that only opens on the otherside
>WELP BETTER GO TO THE NEXT ZONE
nah you're a guide reader who knew exactly where he needed to go and opted to come back for optional bosses later when you're over leveled.
>>336681747
>he dislikes Dark Souls 1
Ah okay, nevermind then. I thought you were a person worth discussing this with. So DS2 was your first and favorite, yes?
I still don't understand how people found Siegward in the well, who revisits that corner of the level again after the first time?
>>336681886
>thinking Dark Souls 1 was perfect
You shittin me nigger? Dark Souls 1 was great but there are still plenty of bullshit stupid things about it like the darkwrath thing I mentioned
>>336681605
What fucking counter argument did that nigger give me? I told him NPC quests shouldn't be failed because you decided to sit at a fucking bonfire then he proceeds to tell me all this very specific and cryptic shit I should have done and that I should know this despite playing blind. Also e hstraight up defends it because lol dark souls 1 did it so it's fine all of the sudden
>>336680415
on my fifth soulsborne game and I still haven't bothered with parrying
>>336682008
Not once did I say Dark Souls 1 was perfect. Not even close. You're projecting now, and you're just making yourself look like a fool. My original point is that npc questlines haven't changed and complaining about them in the third game makes you look like a faggot.
>>336681605
Say what you want about Dark Souls 2, but it doesn't have a key NPC drop dead just because you fight a random boss. Completely destroys your investment. Like I really want to restart after the hours I've already put in.
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>>336681858
>He went right instead of left, what a fucking idiot!
>>336682132
You are the one projecting by assuming I disliked Dark Souls 1, and just because it's been a thing since the first game does not mean it's well designed
>>336677992
I think the cool kids use the cestus in the off hand to parry
>>336682178
Nice reading comprehension you have there champ
>>336682132
He said that the dickwraith joinng was bullshit and you assumed he hated Dark Souls because of it. Look who the fuck is really projecting
>>336682309
>He accidentally went to the Road of Sacrifices first and decided to keep playing the harder areas before going back to fight an easy boss; clearly a guide-reading casual.
Why are you so upset? Will you get mad at me if I told you I beat Yhorm before Pontiff?
Do I stop leveling at 105? I still want to get summoned and invade.
>>336682178
Undead settlements layout was great.
Not exactly sure why the door by greatwood was one way only, it should have opened by either end
>>336682159
Yoel dies because you suck. You didn't fulfill his purpose correctly
>>336682548
>mfw I beat Yhorm before Pontiff cus I thought I was going the right way when looking for Aldrich
>>336682548
Just own up to being a guide reading faggot anon. Stop hiding who you are
>>336682132
Literally the only reason anybody gets on ANYBODY for not putting Dark Souls 1 as the best thing ever is because they imply that Dark Souls isn't perfect and the best thing ever, why the fuck else would you get on someone for not liking Dark Souls as much as the others?
Heres the thing about Yoel, if he died for you. You deserve to have that game fucked up.
>Guy shows up offering you evil power
>Obvious that some shit is going to go down if you accept it
>Instead of going balls to the wall just to see what happens, you puss out like little bitch you are.
Stick to Fallout, Souls aint the RPG for you. Pussy.
>>336682609
I suck because I fought the Watchers? Don't even start. Zero indication. Zero.
>>336682548
Fuck off this thread already.
>>336675535
>what is cheat engine
not our problem that you are retarded
>>336682783
I didn't even notice that the levels were free, and was wondering why the sorcery vendor offered level ups.
>>336676812
i managed to get patches to appear in my game at the cathedral
didn't see onionbro in the well and i still have no idea what i did
>>336682565
Most people are settling a 80 -100 for what I understand.
>that faggot who reads guides and then bashes all the people who are playing blind for not completing all the NPC questlines
>>336677536
you do know that the moment you walk into the itryhill dungeon before going in the sewer you fuck up both greirats and siegwards questline, and miss an invasion if youre not embered?
>>336676812
I read that if you enter the catwalk area (Near Rosaria)
This will prevent Patches from triggering at Cathedral
>>336681858
Not him, but my game was crashing whenever i got to the area where the Giant shoots arrows so I had to find Road of Sacrifices.
NPC questlines in Souls were never the most transparent thing in the world, but in 3 they are all so obtuse that the only way to do any without a guide is by pure accident.
>>336683339
No it doesn't. I never found patches in the cathedral, did the catwalk area, and then visited the firelink tower even though I had done so previously and patches did appear.
>>336683259
I never understood how people thought they could do a blind run and still get all the secrets? I did my first run blind and later realized that I missed 1/3 of the game and fucked up all the quests. DeS games always where games for multiple playthroughs, so I don't get what all the fuss is about.
>>336683647
That proves my point?
From what I read to trigger patches at the cathedral you have to
1. open a specific set of large doors.
2. bonfire/travel elsewhere and come back, you will then find patches in onion armor at the cathedral.
If you enter the catwalks before you do either of those steps patches will not show up at the Cathedral, and will only show up at firelink tower.
Unless you mean you went to firelink tower and then found patches at the cathedral?
>>336678692
I already did for the achievement calm down sperglord
>>336683885
Not >>336683647 but I think he thought you meant that missing out on the cathedral scene would mean you never see patches but you can guarantee his appearance with firelink shrine even if you already opened it before and he hasn't shown up.
>>336674761
>b-but muh cap
5 levels won't hurt your pvp activity.
>>336683783
Because once I beat a game I want to have a fulfilling playthrough and move on with my life. Why the fuck do I gotta beat a game multiple times to have fun.
>Giant archer dies because you picked branches
Defend this.
>>336677569
What gesture/NPC?
>>336684173
He leaves you the hawk ring. I love that fucking ring, couldn't care less about the giant.
>>336684173
Picked the branches? What do you mean?
>>336684279
Prolly heysel or tsorig.
>>336684489
if you pick up all 7? white branches the giant will die.
>>336681087
>couldn't find the curse rotted greatwood
>thinks his opinion is valid
>>336682178
I seriously love Dark Souls 3's level design. Each individual area was terrific (save for the flat boring swamp area). Only flaw is that the levels as a whole are not interconnected and you don't "experience" the world in the same way you do in DaS1 because you just warp everywhere instead of learning the world and constantly trekking through it.
>>336683221
I hope 80-100 doesn't become the de facto PVP range. It doesn't allow for enough build variety. At that range, you only have pure dex, pure strength, and pure magic builds and that's it.
SL120 allows for quality builds, dex/faith, strength/intelligence, etc.
>>336684685
Why not just kill him? Even after talking to him he shoots me at all other white branches locations.
>>336684090
> Why the fuck do I gotta beat a game multiple times to have fun
To try out different builds or play styles? To do some quests you could not do because you chose a certain route? A lot of people who like souls games enjoy the fact that those games can be played multiple times. Maybe you should let go of the thought that every game should crater to your specific needs. If you really don't want to miss anything, just use a fucking guide and look up everything beforehand.
>>336684926
He actually shoots at enemies near the tree, and if you still have the branch he gave you the arrows actually cannot hurt you.
>>336684757
Did I say that?
>Pyromancer is starting to suck hot shit
What do I play next.
>>336685050
Why yes, yes you did
>>336685147
Please point out where I said that, because I specifically said I chose to continue through the Road of Sacrifice.
Doesn't Yoel die on his own after Abyss watchers? What are people bitching about with this level cap shit? Are you guys hitting the PVP "cap" before then?
>>336685357
the issue they are complainging about is on a NG+ if they want access to yuria's questline they are forced to level up 5 times which may push them out of their desired pvp range.
>>336685357
If he dies from Abyss Watchers, his quest fails. You have to kill him properly.
>>336685357
The level cap bitching is mostly low level PVP Shitters bitching cause they don't want to level up any higher into levels where more builds are viable. But to get one of the Endings (Achievement), they have to and they don't want to invest in a new character cause "Muh one playthrough."
>>336684926
You probably used the branch he gives you. It is separated from the other branches
>>336678704
This is my cheat character, that WotG does around couple hundreds of thousands damage. My weapons buffed you with darkmoon blade, power within, toxic, dragon form and some cut status effect.
>>336680415
Kicking is more important than parrying in this game
>>336682796
I used up all his levels before Watchers.. I guess you didnt check in at the shrine enough?
>>336680560
>High level pvp was always a thing.
And it was always garbage, and infested with shitters.
