Could this game save 4X?
>>336666252
Legit excited for it. Especially the anomaly/late game crises elements of the game that refer to classic sci-fi. All wrapped up in a big 4X. Took a day off to get into it.
what the fuck is stellaris?
>>336666345
From my perspective:
It is a space themed colonization type game in which you can make your own people and decide what their boons and flaws. You explore galaxies and meet with other species and interact either peacefully or with extreme prejudice. The objective of the game is to stand the test of time and survive an end game catastrophe.
Sounds fun. But I never really played a game like this.
here's a race maker if you want to fiddle around with it kaisersly.github.io/stellaris_race_maker/
Crack when
>>336666345
>you can make your own people
so wait, are we talking like star trek make your own crew, or creating your own civilization? After STO, I've been wanting a good game involving me and a bunch of other folks touring the galaxy and doing some good.
>>336667042
its a 4x/grand strategy not an mmo
>>336666252
whatever it'll do to the genre, such mix of two genres is more than welcomed
late game 4x usually all about combat and that's boring
>>336666324
This is what I'm most interested in. Late-game 4X games all seem to just settle down into an endless grind as you consolidate and then creep outward with your military/culture/influence until you win. Anything that will shake that up is worth a look.
>>336667380
I also like the ongoing quests during the initial gameplay to make it feel like there's some purpose to progressing, rather than simply blobbing.
i wish sins of a solar empire didn't shit itself when you tried to play with 100 planets
who wants to play that kind of game with like 20 planets
Will it be sold in retail format?
There's a 25% off coupon on GMG
>implying preordering
But it'slooking so good!
>>336669882
Digital only as it's looking.
it's the true MOO2 sequel in my heart... I'm hyped af
>>336666324
Well sword of the stars already does this. Does it really well. There's heaps of random encounters and events, but late game only 1 crazy one will spawn.
Can be a planet destroyer that just goes from planet to planet destroying them, an intergalactic peacekeeper that sets rules and limits and fucks up anyone that breaks them or a replicator moon that eats planets and creates more replicator.
Can't recall if there are others. I'm looking forward to what Stellaris does.
>>336670118
I don't mind breaking my never-preorder rule since Paradox has a great track record for long term support, and I've seen enough if the game on the Blorg streams to decide that I think it looks good.
>>336666572
It's called a 4x game. I've you've played civ then you've played a game like it.
>>336671019
It's enough of a grand strategy/4x hybrid that it will do some new things I geuss.
>>336671123
Hopefully.
>>336670973
Legit hadn't heard of this before.
Thanks anon.
>>336671123
>I geuss
>>336666252
will it be autistic? gsg games are generally too much for me, so I never played any
there are no pauses/breaks in the multiplayer right? or how does it work
>>336671732
seconding the question
>>336671727
probably about the same level as CK2, so not very
nothing close to eu/vicky/hoi anyway
>>336671717
>*It's a hologram"
Every time
>>336671717
>It's a hologram
Everytiem
>>336671717
>it's a hologram
oh im laffin'
>>336671703
>It's enough of a grand strategy/4x hybrid that it will do some new things I geuss.
Just play the first, ignore the second. Looks and sounds like ass, but it's legit one of my favourite games. Pseudo random tech tree, very different factions, lots of random factors, real time space battles with physics so things like tractor beams and grav mines are actually feasible, etc.
>>336671727
They said this was going to be the most -easy to get started with- paradox game up until now. So if any gsg is gonna be your entry point, it might as well be this one.
>>336671717
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf0NCHMWcZA
>actual first contact in a space 4X game
>>336670263
The store near me (Game, UK) was selling codes on cards, but no proper box, and it was a bit more expensive (£29.99) than GMG with 25% off code (SPACE25, £34.99 to £26.24)
Unsure how that translates into other currencies.
>>336673248
Shame there is no box though, first time in a while I would have liked to own the box desu.
>>336666324
hello Johan
>>336674136
I ain't no Johan familia.
What kind of society are you guys gonna play first? I'm gonna try and prove ME:3 wrong and make a perfect robot and organics utopia.
>>336674610
http://empiredesigner.xyz/
I'm gonna try and do some space science.
>>336675008
100% reddit tier.
Of course all of you sperlords have to go materialistic+Intelligent for the tip fedora meme science boost.
Why do so many replies in these threads look fake and committee-designed?
>>336675240
Because you are in a shill thread
>>336670973
>Sword of the Stars
My
Fucking
Negro
>that 4x gameplay
>that real time combat
>that open ended first contact
>that lore by the same writer as Homewrold
>that genocide Hiver scum on sight
How long until horsecock futanari draenei race mod?
>>336675605
>>that lore by the same writer as Homewrold
Not entirely. The bigwig worked on the Homeworld expansion, which is cool and all, but he is like the Anthony Burch of that team.
Most of the law was written by this hyper feminist that got mad when some dude in the forums pointed out that her entries on human women in the military were wrong.
Also pretty sure the guy in charge of art is a furry.
The developers are all completely fucked, which is why SotS 2 was such a disaster. Still, they struck gold with the first one.
>>336671717
>It's a hologram
>>336675126
Am I a meme too?
interstellar jihad when
>>336676130
Why would you?
>>336673248
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ikaron-0638264151994-Stellaris-PC-DVD/dp/B01DP02J1O
There you go, proper boxed DVD version.
We Star Trek now
>>336675126
>minmaxing is bad
>>336676543
I didin't said anything about minmaxing, we don't even know if the science boost is that good in this game.
I just said that it is funny to see all the redditors going intelligent+materialistic.
>>336676687
Like the 40k Imperium memers are any better.
can I win by interbreeding the xenos out of existance?
Gonna turn up the May 9th Russian victory parade when playing this.
>>336675008
I can't wait to purge.
>>336676687
>we don't even know if the science boost is that good in this game.
What? Faster research speed in ANY game is incredibly valuable, it gives you a big edge over others and this is emphasized when you eventually get to war. It's not necessarily the be-all end-all strategy to take materialist/intelligent but it's a combination that makes sense.
I tried and i failed
>>336676130
Jewish reference?
>>336676353
>>336677089
why not?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUnSGz8vW0U
Gotta get that money
*tip*
>>336677776
Very swarm-like.
>>336677041
For the eeeempraaaah!!
>>336677831
That's actually a neat idea.
>>336677776
Switch xenophobic for spiritual, then you can mod this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUohUrWlJeE as the background music while you spread based orthodoxy across the galaxy
>no consume all swarm type faction
I'm disappointed
>>336677973
Not sure if I want to get rid of militarist for xenophobe.
>>336678090
All the government types have upgraded versions of them. One of them is Hive Mind.
>>336678090
There is at least three of them
>>336678230
>View screen off
Pretending you didn't see is the best answer.
>>336678216
Wasn't that AI only though?
>>336678230
Can I play as them?
>>336678560
no to both
>>336677831
I don't see a problem there.
>>336670794
You know, even if it's not like Master of Orion 2 all the way, it's much more of a successor than MOO3 ever was. I can't wait to play this game until Star Citizen releases.
>>336678613
Well you can probably tag-switch to them, you can do that with AI empires and Fallen Empires, so why not with late-game threats?
Not entirely sure the traits are right
>>336678813
>so why not with late-game threats?
Because they are going to be insanely powerful galaxy-threatening powers, and making them controllable by players is dumb. Same applies to fallen empires and how they can't be playable.
>>336678987
Well, you can probably tag-switch to them as I said, which is not official but it makes everything playable.
The Devs said so in the MP stream.
Someone do Galactic Empire and Free Planets Alliance.
someone needs to mod in asari so I can go around the universe giving every race the BBC
>>336671727
/gsg/ hates it because it's not autistic enough. Plus paradox is including a voiced helper AI if you want help figuring out what shit does.
>>336679192
>Well, you can probably tag-switch to them as I said, which is not official but it makes everything playable.
You're misinterpreting what the devs have already said numerous times. You can switch to AI empires if your empire is eliminated or if you join in progress. But you cannot join as fallen empires or late game threats as they are too powerful.
Suddenly it's may. What the hell.
>>336679601
I know man, Stellaris and the next Witcher audio book are coming out so soon.
It back in January it felt like it was going to be so far away.
>>336679464
Not him, but do you know what "tag switch" means?
>>336679710
>le funny cuck meme
>>336675126
>>336676687
>wanting to research shit is reddit
Oh fuck off already. Research speed increases are always valuable in almost every Paradox game ever.
>>336678230
>Something with 'scourge' in the name
>Can we coexist?
>>336679464
In the MP stream, the devs clearly say that they want to tag-switch to a fallen empire and kill the streamer that is living next to it, but they won't do it because that isn't fair.
>>336679780
Yeah. I'd been watching the stream videos the past couple months and it felt so distant. I hope it turns out to be good.
>>336680048
>the devs clearly say that they want to tag-switch to a fallen empire and kill the streamer that is living next to it, but they won't do it because that isn't fair.
Because they're the fucking devs, they could do whatever they liked, which was also the reason why they could play AND act as spectator simultaneously.
>>336671717
>Its a hologram
>>336679993
That is what happens when you play a race with the hippi trait
>>336680386
In every paradox grand-strategy game you can tag-switch, and yes it is always done through the console so you need to type out the comment.
>>336666252
awww shit niggers we becoming the southern spess confederacy
>fanatic xenophobes for dat sweet slavery
>mild individualists for dat sweet southern independence
>going around taking over filthy space niggers and enslaving them in my space cotton fields
>naming my sectors after famous confederate politicians/soldiers
>getting cucked by liberal fagocracy's
can't wait
>>336679993
Space liberals man.
>You want to wipe out all life in the universe? Well that's your culture :^)
>>336680950
>>336678392
>You notice all the other civs across the galaxy are being exterminated.
>You get this transmission
No, no everything is fine. We are all going to be ok
>>336679993
You don't like refuges? What are you? a nazi? :v)
>>336681181
the end game crisis events better be actually strong and not just mildly inconvenient after the initial push
I want literal spess empire to cease toe exist in after a month of contact
>>336681778
One of them shows up around 1:39 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sN6LQykAdM
They are called the unbidden.
In that video of the AI only map the UnbiddenChaosrampage through the southern part of the galaxy and are only stopped by hitting the fallen empires
>>336681778
They are very strong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sN6LQykAdM
>>336681778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sN6LQykAdM
Keep your eye on the Ikarzuri
The 'unbidden' is a crisis event.
>>336669882
Only in Germany/UK
>>336666572
Sounds more like gala civ, been hoping for a more refined distant worlds which is like a 4x that turns into almost a grand strategy late game
>>336681181
>some unknown force is destroying the outer rim
>picture shows a desk and some shelves
>>336677041
whats the point of slavery if you are going to kill other species anyway'
>>336682595
Gives them something to do while I purge their brothers
can someone make the 40k races using this?
http://empiredesigner.xyz/
Who here making a Sweden Yes faction?
>>336677831
Me and my friends already planned out our empires and the shenanigans we are going to pull.
>You can only have an enlightened monarchy if you're a pacifist
>>336683528
>wanting gods or kings
>>336683174
Adeptus Mechanicus is a Science Directorate with Xenophobes, Militarist and Materialist
Probably with Solitary, Enduring, Resilient and Natural Engin(s)eers
Why should I play this instead of distant worlds?
>>336683528
yeah I'm not liking how limited the race builder is
for example, you can only either be a cold robotic materialist or a full blown hippy spiritualist, nothing seems moderate here
>>336683843
you can pick neither of those though?
>>336683843
i think you're looking at only one of the opposing categories
plus just because you're spirital doesn't mean you're a hippy
my first empire is going to be fanatic collectivist spiritualist insects in a divine mandate who enslave everyone
>>336683843
The bonuses are already minuscule. Anything in between would have +3% food production or someshit, completely irrelevant.
Why would they even include pacifist traits if the fucking Tyranids invade at the end and you need to go out all guns blazing?
>>336684497
Just because you're a pacifist doesn't mean everyone else is.
>assume the system requirements will be kind of similar to EUIV
>recommended; AMD Phenom II X4 850 @ 3.3 Ghz or Intel i3 2100 @ 3.1 Ghz
well fuck, now I get to upgrade my shitbox PC
>>336684814
Those are some ancient processors. My computer is almost 7 years old and I have a slightly better processor.
>>336672176
>geuss
Lost it
>>336675008
Space Beetle Master Race
>>336684884
Yeah, still EUIV had significantly lower requirements and it's fairly recent
>>336682412
Everyone's dead.
>>336685132
OUR TROOPS SCUTTLE FROM THE BATTLEFIELD
SHAMFUR DISPRAY
>>336675008
>you can't be a hivemind that consume all live
1/10 game, would no play
>>336676874
>Russian Engineering
>Shakhty Trials
>>336685218
It's not that recent. It was released almost 3 years ago. Back then my computer was only 4 years old.
>>336683814
>Why should I play this instead of distant worlds?
Removing unrewarding minutia. (This can be a plus or minus, but just go play Aurora if you want to go full autism)
More nuanced diplomacy.
Bigger variety of events and flavor to the world.
Graphics, if you care about that.
Multiplayer
Modding tools that support total conversions.
The biggest things that Distant Worlds does best are the Civilian sector and sophisticated automation vs. micromanagement options. Stellaris does seem to be doing the latter pretty well.
![2633177-trailer_endlesslegend_drakken_20140821[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jDyi0SQ.jpg "2633177-trailer_endlesslegend_drakken_20140821[1].jpg")
>>336684497
Different game, but Endless Legend did their diplomatic / pacifist faction in a very novel way. Basically the faction starts with the location of all the players' capitals and is able to communicate with them from the start of the game. They're also best at accumulating Prestige, which is a currency used to provide empire wide bonuses or commit diplomatic actions.
The main kicker was that they could force peace and alliance on any player they wanted. While their main victory condition was pacifist (accumulate diplomatic points by being in peace or alliance treaty with as many players as possible), they could also wage war really effectively. In case of offense; declare war as usual, quickly ninja few enemy cities then force a peace treaty before they could react. In case of a losing war quickly accumulate prestige and prevent the enemy faction from finishing you off.
Where my fascist xenophobic theocracy brethren at?
>>336684497
Think of it this way
If you're a pacifist, chances are you're playing very diplomatically. Your neighbors may not be pacifist. You can be the one to convince them all to join a federation of your making to fight the galactic scourge.
You too can play your part
>>336685272
Underrated post
>>336675859
Yeah the devs are a goddamn clusterfuck.
Back in 2012 they made this big bleeding statement about how mean bullies on the internet dare to criticize """gaming journalism"""" and use mean words. Ever since the goddamn disaster known as Swords of the Stars 2 release, they have been making shitty card games based on the SotS universe.
I don't think they have still recovered from it.
>>336686295
I chose to recreate the empire while the Big E was still alive
>>336686012
Fair enough.
Might give it a try at some point then.
>>336678903
Are you me?
>>336687165
Decadent?
>>336688462
well I needed points. But there was plenty of heresy already spreading in the prelude to the HH
>no space elves to subjugate and keep as sex slaves
No.
>>336688656
Gotcha. I'm a total novice when it comes to 40K stuff, sorry.
>>336681778
Not end game crisis but in the multiplayer stream a forgotten empire easily repeled the forces of almost every human player.
Anyone got suggestions for this?
>>336689079
Likely they attacked it simply because it was the last day of the 2-day multiplayer event, it was still mid-game where it was really too early to tackle them. I think in MP games with friends we will probably try to do the same and split the worlds between ourselves.
If I were to create a 40k mod, I'd probably divide the Imperium to different factions to better portray the ethos picks. Otherwise, Imperium is pretty much a fanatical everything.
Maybe something like Imperial Navy being Fanatical Militarist & Xenophobe, while a Rogue Trader dynasty possibly a Fanatical Individualist & Xenophile, and so on and so on.
Are the planets and systems randomly generated? Is Sol, Alpha Centauri, etc. always going to be there?
How would you recreate the Culture?
let's assume no point limit for now
Individualist
Xenophile
Pacifist
Materialist
Government type is tricky, since there is no "AI oligarchy". Some mix of direct democracy and science directorate
Adaptive
Natural sociologists
Quick learners
>>336689424
Oh yeah for sure and it was horribly coordinated. They did wait until they superior force or whatever that number is called but the forgotten eventually brought in big renforcement fleets.
It was mentioned that forgotten empires don't rebuild ships so I think it will end up being more of an attrition thing which would have taken too long to show.
I need something new because EU4 is going down in flames, and fast.
Has there ever been another game so fundamentally ruined by patches?
>>336689282
I wouldn't call the Mongols adaptive, they could only thrive in steppe/plain environments and they barely lasted a couple generations
>>336689431
Different empires in Stellaris-terms would better suit the Imperium given it's size.
This is going to be fun.
>>336689735
Randomly generated.
But you can pick Sol as the starting system. Then you get all the planets like Mars, Venus and so on (but the minerals, energy, anomalies and other stuff in the system is still randomized).
If you don't pick Sol starting, then there is a random chance it appears somewhere in the galaxy. Then it might have a human empire, an irradiated wasteland, or primitive human civilization, and so on.
>>336666252
>Paradox
>It means it will never drop in price below 10 and the entire game is going to have more than 100 Dlc's
No
>>336689994
Adeptus mechanicus is individualist as fuck bro,the individual magi fight each other all the time.
>>336690290
it also means you can buy the core game and easily pirate all DLCs
but you're a retarded tripfag so you probably didn't know this
What planet types are you all going to start on?
>>336690306
My bad, admech aren't that familiar to me. Individualist also gives the credit boost on top of being Industrious.
>>336690389
Tundra probably.
I assume they all have equal distribution of resources, else playing on something like continental would be a massive advantage due to having extra food for growth at the start?
>>336690389
Desert
We Dune now
>>336690389
shouldn't tundra and arctic switch places? even looking at the visuals alone
>>336670973
Forgetting the Puppetteer, brah. Locust Hive World too.Von Neumann homeworld isn't a grand menace, but it's dece.
>>336690290
>more than 100 Dlc's
95 of which are purely optional cosmetics and the remaining 5 are solid expansion packs that add meaningful content and gameplay functionality.
>>336690795
wut? Tundra = northern Siberia, Arctic = ice
Which traits and ethos fits for a human military dictatorship? Ethos I think im gonna go for collectivist, militarist and either materialist or xenophobic. Traits I have no idea really, quick learner seems good but I cant decide on a negative trait
>>336690389
probably artic, arid or tundra in multiplayer games
need to get the opposite of what everyone else wants
>>336690898the locust is the replicator
>>336690795
I think its to do with presence of water, so tundra is supposed to be somewhat drier and more rocky.
>>336691012
communal, industrious, engineers
>>336690967
yeah exactly
isn't tundra closer to an Earth like planet than arctic?
>>336690389
>Can't be industrious Volcanic World
It hurts man.
>>336690898
That's right, the puppeteer. It was really rare for me.
>>336691196
oh, did you mean it's further in the pic? I don't know if that actually means anything gameplay-wise, it's all about your starting species's home planet. If you start on Earth I presume you can colonize tundras
>>336691131
Missed it, my bad.The version of it in #2 is seriously hardcore.
>>336691420
the centre of the pic talks about "steps", I assume it means the links between planets in the visualized circle
>>336691153
right I guess that makes sense
>>336691727
now that you say that I noticed it and it doesn't really make sense
if your homeworld is tropical you can get 60% from deserts?
>>336691420
>>336691727
>>336691953
If you start on Earth you won't be able to colonize tundra.
The further a planet is in that circle from your homeworld the lower its habitability for your species. Habitability is a pops maximum possible happiness, so settling on a tundra world would let you have a max happiness of 0%.
You also need to research a tech to colonize each type of planet that is not the same as your homeworld.
>>336691953
Correct
>>336692138
I get it but tropical and desert being so close (also arguably arctic and ocean) is weird
>>336675008
RED SPACE
>>336691727
It'll be partially heat based, deserts and tropics would have to be quite warm. then water based so desert and arid would have to be quite dry.
"You guys are used to hot and dry, so this hot but wet place works a bit, as does this dry but not necesarily hot place"
>>336692138
If you pick tundra as your homeworld and Sol as your system, won't Earth turn tundra?
>tfw Human Empire rising from nuclear winter
>>336692371
>intelligent
lol
>>336692435
No idea. They may lock it so you can only play Sol if your continental or something like that.
>>336692652
>>336692752
>>336692258
Yeah that is a little weird. Some of the planet make ups make sense (Ocean planet races being unable to deal with arid or desert), but the fact that continental races are somehow better adapted to living on literal ice rather than a snow covered tundra is a little sketchy.
Who /democracy/ and /freedom/ for the universe here?
>>336693018
Gonna try and make the Morrigi at some point but not sure how to go about it.
Failing that, United Federation of Planets might be fun, or idealistic spacemonarchy.
How do y'all come up with names for civilizations? I'm not having any luck with my war hawks.
Also, there's an advanced government type that gives your leader the title God-Emperor, for everyone who wants to make the Imperium
>>336693018
fuck off Dubuya
collectivist militaristic xenophobic dictatorship or bust
>>336692883
Could be mostly about growing the right amount of food, it would be slightly easier in the arctic than in most tundras IIRC.
>>336693168
>God-Emperor
Awww shit. Do you know what all of the advanced governments / titles are?
As for names, I just kind of let it come to me. Depending on how serious you want your space turkeys to be, I think some variation of Cawcaw will do fin. Like, Keraka or something.
>>336693247
I'm just nitpicking, I think the system will work pretty well from a mechanics perspective, and that's what really matters.
>>336693478
http://www.stellariswiki.com/Government
>>336693616
>http://www.stellariswiki.com/Government
Sweet! Thanks.
Are grand strategy games considered 4X?
Or is Stellaris more similar to traditional 4X than it is to grand strategy?
>>336672176
geuss
>>336693740
it's more 4X than grand strat
but it has nifty elements from GS
>>336693740
Some people say it's more 4x in early game and more gs in late game.
>>336693478
>Keraka
Kek, that's actually not bad.
And as someone linked, it's apparently Transcendent Empire. You need to be spiritualists.
>>336666252
>can Paradox save 4X
No. That would be Amplitude.
>>336693740
Stellaris starts off much like other 4x games, where you start off on your homeworld, explore the galaxy, build an empire, etc.
Once it reaches mid to late game and the empires have expanded to fill the map, it becomes more like a Grand Strategy game in terms of scope and diplomacy.
This unique hybrid approach is why people are so interested and have high hopes for Stellaris. It has the potential to make end-game much more interesting than typical 4xs, and it has a small symmetical start that GSs don't have.
tfw you can't turn your people into robots
>>336693976
>Craplitude
>Save 4x
Kek
STELLARIS IS GRAND STRATEGY FUCK OFF LIQUOR LADS
>>336666252
It will never be better than Endless Legend
>>336670118
I don't see any coupon...
>>336694161
>>336693976
I didn't enjoy Endless Space, but I loved Endless Legend.
They seem like a developer that learns from mistakes and listens to feedback, so I have high hopes for ES2.
>>336694161
>supporting Parajew
>>336694161
Not them, but they've arguably done more to innovate the 4X genre than any other company.
Plus their DLC is policy is better than Paradox.
>>336694387
>not enjoying both Amplitude and and Paradox games
Fuck off both of you.
>>336681181
>extra-galactic organic invasion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sN6LQykAdM
>unbidden
>>336694627
what happens if a hive fleet enters the eye of terror?
>>336694957
You don't really want to know the answer to that.
>>336691560
Hardcore as "difficult to defeat because it's stronk" or "because the game keeps crashing"?
>>336694571
I enjoyed EUI4 till the latest round of updates. Fuck the bullshit they keep adding.
>>336694957
It literally can't. The Hive Mind is so strong it pushes back the Warp as it advances.
Game for Aggressive knobs.
>4X
Who actually plays that shit?
>>336695213
How's that? The tyranids aren't even sensitive to the warp, are they?
>>336695740
>The tyranids aren't even sensitive to the warp, are they?
They are psykers. It's just that the single-minded will of the hive mind is so god-damned strong (trillions upon trillions of organisms) that it can tell a Chaos god to fuck off.
>>336695740
Shadow in the Warp. It makes psychic stuff hard to achieve and keeps whatever is in the warp inside.
>>336695738
This guy
>>336695738
The people posting in this thread, clearly. Use your brain, anon.
>>336695738
Everyone here but you
>>336696035
Why did he kill EU4?
Oxygen therapy for autism. Check it out. Just breathe when you need to and exhale when theres too much activity.
I just tried pre-ordering Stellaris on steam but my credit card was declined for being $300 over its limit.
>>336696181
pls buy
>>336695081
Hah.
The Hiveworld is a leviathan-class ship now, instead of dreadnought-class. No big deal; 'largest class available' is how it was in #1.
When it finishes eating a world it sends out Herald Moons. Like, every system within fifteen lightyears or something. These are dreadnought-class ships. Only one. Not too difficult to fight or destroy, even, if you have a combat fleet ready.
They go out, visit a system for one turn to survey it, then return to report on their findings. Of the ones that return, it totals all resources in the systems, then embarks to the one with the largest sum. With its full fleet of herald moons.
So you can keep it from coming at you by destroying every herald moon in one of your systems, but if it does wind up deciding to visit, it comes with an attendant fleet of dreadnoughts.
It is sort of boring from a stand point but no jokey here when you are in a nice fresh air room and you oxygenated out it sum good sheet playing this kind of thing, you can get creative and you need good circulation to appreciate this sort of game. If you aint got these prerequisites for this shit it move slow and is dull as poop so faster pace is a must. Call of duty fantastic for autism.
>>336682595
You can enslave your own species if they're being shit disturbers.
>>336696442
SoTS 1 or 2? Which should I play?
>>336684497
I believe pacifists get access to defensive tech and bonuses later on, also federations exist so you can employ more violent civilizations to fight enemies while you pull the strings in the background and manage administration.
Anyways I'm super psyched for Stellaris, I'm glad it's real time since turn based games start to wear thin in the late game when turns take 5 hours to process.
>>336697050
1.
11111111.
2 you can try after 1, if you want. It's much less popular and much less polished.
1 is fucking solid. Excellent.
2 is very... subjective.
>>336697050
1.
2 crashes everytime and the "officer" system thingy is retarded
>>336697050
Play one first for the love of god
>>336697569
It should also be noted that unlike every other 4x ever, there's actual timeline and story and canon progression between 1 and 2. It's not just civ 1, civ 2, civ 3, etc.
So play the original first for a variety of reasons.
>>336666252
I will like early game multiplayer before everyone finds the exploits
but afterwards everyone will spam optimum builds and fucking cheese it
I'll probably play something like this at the start.
Until I get bored and start to cheat/mod like fuck in SP.
