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OFFICIAL OVERWATCH TIER LIST. CHARACTER ORDER IS NOT INDICATIVE
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OFFICIAL OVERWATCH TIER LIST. CHARACTER ORDER IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ANY CHARACTER BEING OBJECTIVELY BETTER THAN ANOTHER, SIMPLY THAT THEY SHARE A TIER.

>GOOD: THESE CHARACTERS ARE USEFUL IN ALMOST EVERY SITUATION. PICKING THESE CHARACTERS WILL LIKELY INCREASE YOUR CHANCE OF WINNING, SINCE THEY HAVE HIGH IMPACT. THESE CHARACTERS ARE NOT AS EASILY COUNTERED AS OTHERS. THESE CHARACTERS ARE VALUABLE ON BOTH OFFENSE AND DEFENSE. ARE GENERALLY VERSATILE.

Lucio
Soldier 76
Tracer
McCree
Pharrah
Reaper
Widowmaker
Mercy
Every tank but Reinhardt

>USABLE: THESE CHARACTERS HAVE THEIR NICHE SITUATIONS THAT MAY NECESSITATE THEIR USE. HAVING A TEAM MADE UP OF A MAJORITY OF THESE CHARACTERS DOES NOT BODE WELL IN A GENERAL CASE, BUT CAN BE GOOD DEPENDING ON THE OPPOSING TEAM COMPOSITION.

Junkrat
Reinhardt
Genji
Mei
Bastion
Zenyatta (probably the most debatable, I think he's situational because of his low health)

>BAD: JUST DON'T PICK THESE GUYS. ANY OF THE ABOVE HEROES ARE BETTER 90% OF THE TIME.

Symmetra
Torbjorn
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BUMPING FOR ATTENTION
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updooting
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>>336664663
Shit list. So apparent that OP can't play builders whatsoever.
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>>336664663
>d.va
>good
choose one
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>>336664663
Why won't you guys fuck off and make a fucking general on /vg/
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Medic >Demo > Soldier > Scout > Sniper > Heavy > The rest.
Prove me wrong.
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>>336664663

>mei and reinhardt both not in GOOD

Are you retarded OP? Reinhardts shield is fantastic in 90% of situations and an absolute beast on both offense and defense sides.

And Meis freeze is too OP at the moment that as long as she can get in close shes going to win.
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>>336664663
Lel, well placed turret got me several 5-6 ppl killstreaks.
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post pharrah porn and qt
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>Torbjorn
>Not in Usable

Some maps he sucks dick, while other ones he can be godlike.
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>symmetra
>bad

when will this meme end?
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>>336664663

Symmetra is a team player. The teleporter just needs to be a basic ability though and give her a true support healing ability
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>>336665590
When the game dies.
So in no time.
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Toblerone is fine, the problem is that people don't rebuild sentries quickly if they're destroyed and people don't shit out armor packs constantly

Also his gun is surprisingly strong sometimes, especially at long range sniping, kind of like Lucio's
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>>336665468
Most of the time i see Reinhardt get ran circles around him, hence why I placed him in usable tier. He's good during pushes when you have the rest of the team to back you up, yeah.

Mei is a pubstomper but she's easily dispatched by a majority of the offensive heroes I placed in good tier as well as Bastion and Junkrat.
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>>336665605
this

or just move her to defense so people dont think she is gonna heal them
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>not 2 shotting people with Torbjorn from behind your turret

His long range shot is amazing once you get the hang of it, on close range you can almost one-shot squishy characters with the right-click ability
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w-what about my boy hanzo
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This game is fun as fuck.
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>everyone sucking off mccree
>every time I've used him I've never been able to land a single shot of his right click

How are all these people somehow getting these instant kills meanwhile my bullets just disappear into the ether even while point blank?
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>Game is completely unoptomized for PC, so much so that 80% of players can't play without reduced graphics or a shit framerate.
>The game is designed in such a way that you don't need the precision of KB&M for aiming.
>It plays better on PS4
>No little kids spamming chat
>PS4 was announced lead platform
PCucks, defend yourselves in this new era.
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>>336665590
Peoples opinion of Sym it the litmus test for whether a player is good or not.
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Here's a list of auto-aims in Overwatch.

Soldier 76 ultimate
Mccree ultimate
Reaper ultimate
Winston primary gun
Symmetra primary gun & turrets
Torbjorn turret
Roadhog chain (aim assist)


Here's a list of offensive effects or attacks which aren't auto-aim but you essentially cannot miss with them no matter how bad you are.

Bastion turret gun
Reaper primary guns
Tracer primary gun
Reinhardt primary melee
Zenyatta orb of discord
Winston ultimate swipes
Pharah ultimate rocketswarm
Roadhog primary weapon (both modes)
Roadhog ultimate
Zarya ultimate
Tracer ultimate

Additionally, almost every character has a skill that negates all positional mistakes. For example: caught on the ground as the rocketess Pharah? No problem, just press this easy button and you're instantly in the sky, where you're most effective.

Ran yourself into a bad spot as the fragile but swift Tracer? No problem, just press this easy button and you're instantly back where you were before.

Got caught in the open as the close-range slugger Reaper? Just press your invulnerability button and float over to a healthkit. You get this and many other movement tools completely free, there's nothing you give up for them, like sacrificing health with a rocket-jump.


The tools Overwatch gives you to solve problems are contained in a single, brainless button rather than a complex and difficult set of movements and/or offensive measures. The entire game revolves around identifying the correct rock-paper-scissors situation to press your button, then pressing it. There is no serious skill of any kind involved. You're going through the motions of what you think a video game entails.

The miniscule difference between a week-old Overwatch player and a year-old Overwatch player will be lost in the cloud of instakill ultimates, teleports and AOE abilities. This game is transcendentally shit, and there is no escape from it. This is the very profitable future of FPS. Hell. Population: you.
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>>336664663
Just don't pick Symmetra on very open maps

On maps like Volskaya where there's a lot of tight hallways and corners where she can hide a few sentries or a teleporter she's pretty damn good. Shame that her weapon's secondary fire is hot garbage. Might be decent if you could hold the charge instead of auto-firing it once it's fully charged.
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>>336664663
Found myself playing Pharah and Mercy most of the time, haven't tried to many other characters.
Most people are too stupid to target Mercy, so it makes it really easy to keep a team alive.

Also, how many people can I rez at once? Anyone who is close enough?
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>>336665894
t. poorfag
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I guess based Hog is in his own tier
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Mercy best girl
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>>336665897
Syms alt fire has a time and a place. You can peak Bastion with it and wreck Reinhedt.
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The pink haired lesbian is pretty op.

You just spam your right click and keep hopping and you'll get kills.
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>>336665869
>unoptimized
What are you taking about? At max settings with no AA I literally never dip below 60fps and average 70.

And I'm only running
2x GTX 670
i5 2500k @ 4.6Ghz
They're pretty old parts. The game is pretty light at 6GB too.
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>>336666016
Nice potato, my man.
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>getting meat hooked around corners

Nice "netcode" Blizzard
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>>336665905
Pretty sure you can res the whole team, since that's like the only way Mercy gets POTG.
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>>336664663
>shillwatch
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>>336666039
I just fire it into chokepoints and try to piss people off into chasing me to my turrets
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>>336665905
Yeah. All 5 of them potentially. There's an indicator telling you how many dead allies are close enough to be ressed
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>>336665869
None of this true.
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>>336665869
>Unoptimized

Nigger what? This game is REALLY well optimized. Runs like a dream on my toaster at medium settings.
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>>336664663
>every tank but reinhardt
>better than reinhardt

Reinhardt is the only actual tank, though.
Winston's shield sucks, so he's not great for mitigating damage.
Dva's absorption field is good for snuffing out enemy ults, but other than that she's supposed to be flanking instead of protecting her team. Plus, she sucks in general.
Roadhog isn't really a tank. He's like reaper but he brings enemies to him instead of the other way around.
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>>336666082
>>336666104
Okay, because I swear I was close enough to rez my whole team, but only two came back. Do you have to stand on top of them or have LOS?
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>>336665894
>Roadhog chain (aim assist)

I will never understand people who say this. Maybe it's just my horrible propensity to get matched up with people who live in Brazil, but I've thrown chains inches from enemies and had them miss.
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>>336666084
Here's your (you), it's the last one you're getting until you improve your material, young man.
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>>336665365
there has been a general on /vg/ for months
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>>336666082
>Reaper ults my entire team
>Dodge past a Tracer, fly into the middle of them
>Res them all and we push the point
>POTG is Bastion sitting in turret mode holding down LMB
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>>336664663
Your list is retarded.

Mei is extremely strong and really good in every situation.

Symmetra is not useful as the sole support. However given time to set up she's incredibly strong. If she's good at hiding her teleporter close to the objective that's incredibly strong

Reinhardt is extremely good for every team push. The only situation where he sucks is when his opponents are above him.

Torbjorn is really good also. A well placed turret shits on a teams ability to push. In short everyone in this game is decent.
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>>336665590
>>336665605
>>336665897
Why would you play a nigger ?
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>>336666076
>Nice potato

I don't get it
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>>336664663
>Soldier 76

try genji, try reaper etc etc suddenly choose the most boring guy = 10 killer streak-15 killer streak-play of the game-gold gold gold
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>>336664663
Start seeing atleast 2-3 widowshits on every fucking team with some hanzos,diediedie, and some tracers

Guess i had my fun for 6hours, time to say goodbye.
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>>336665869
Wait ... there are people playing on PC? kek
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>reaper
How do I even get good with this guy?
How far is the damage drop-off with his stupid shotgun/pistol?
Favorite set-up for his ult?
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>>336666258
not everyone is decent, d.va is shit.
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>>336665705
Reinhardt>Winston>Zarya>garbage>D.Va=Roadhog in terms of tanking.
Reinhardt has way too much utility, a mobile shield is insanely good for pushing checkpoints or defending control points against decent teams. The only other tank that's useful in that front is Winston. Having a shield is a big deal in this game and three of the tanks don't have a proper one.
This is the character selection of the last tournament.
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>>336665869
>390 1440p 144fps on 2500k
please make some other lies, game is boring but runs fine
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Why does nobody like Hanzo
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>>336665428
Medic is always useful so that's fine
but Demo is only really tops for clearing out sentry nests, otherwise any situation he's in someone else can do better
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>>336666353
But she is hot as fuck...
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>>336666353
Dva's ult is god tier
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>>336666237
I swear Bastion in turret mode is POTG every game
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>>336665869
>Game is completely unoptomized for PC, so much so that 80% of players can't play without reduced graphics or a shit framerate.
this game is very well optimized
>The game is designed in such a way that you don't need the precision of KB&M for aiming.
they drastically reduced the movement speed on consoles
>No little kids spamming chat
there are little kids on every system
>PS4 was announced lead platform
you got a source for that?
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>>336665894
>thinking reaper is auto aim

it's an aoe, you goose
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>>336666475
It's either that, or Hanzo getting a quad kill with his effortless ult.
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>tfw I have only ever played Mercy or Lucio because if I didn't there would never be a support.

Not that I mind too much though, Lucio is a pretty fun offensive support.
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>>336666423
As a former Cuntsman sniper a few years ago when TF2 was still fun, I kind of like playing Hanzo
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>>336664663
>not knowing the value of a good Torby and Symmetra turret placement

>not knowing the destructive capabilities of a torby with molten core

git gud
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>>336665705
Reinhardt is a team player. He loses every 1v1, but with people behind his shield to protect, he's an invaluable asset.

The reasons you see Reinhardt's getting bodied all the time is because either his teammates didn't group up with him, he charged into enemy lines like an idiot, or his/the enemy's team comp didn't really suit him and he was better off on Winston or something.
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>>336666353
The fact that not everybody agrees with you should tell you that you're wrong. D.VA is good at being disruptive keeping people out of places you don't want them to be etc. She is not good at doing damage outside of her Q or when she's out of her mech
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Going off of comp play: Move reaper, D.va, Roadhog and zenyatta down a tier and move Reinhardt up a tier. You now have a good tier list.
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>>336666193
I've missed quite a few chains because of shitty prop hitboxes like cars or signs or fucking trees
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>>336666331
use your teleport more

get as close as possible, the closer you are the more you shred

you basically can't go wrong with the ult

Reaper is seriously strong, probably one of the most useful damage dealers in the game and incredibly mobile once you get the hang of the teleport and can time the wraith/sprint
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>>336664663
It's hard to find a situation where Mei isn't good
That shield is just too versatile and she rapes most melee heroes while also dealing rather well with ranged ones, and the ult is great for any teamfight
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>>336664663
Thats real cool OP but we already have an actual tier list
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Retarded Overwatch questions:

Are they gonna wipe the progress after Open Beta?

The Battlenet region is where the game will find for the queue?

Can you switch to any region and have the same account/progress on all regions? or do I have to start over?
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>>336666471
It's really not. All you have to do to avoid it is break line of sight. No one who's played more than a few games against Dva will ever die to it unless they're forced to. It'll clear a point for a few seconds, but that's it.
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There are too many fucking heroes/classes in this game. It's goddamn ridiculous.

It's like Blizz was making a MOBA but then decided "nah we already have HOTS lets just make it an FPS like TF2"
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>MFW only healers get the most likes

FInally a game where we are appreciated.
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>>336666654
Yes
Yes
No
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>>336666632
>Symmetra's nerf knocked her down that far
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>>336666632
>Zenyatta on nothing but a steep decline

Holy shit why
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>>336664663
>Symmetra
>Bad

She's the most broken character for defending Hanamura, London and especially Hollywood.

I've never had an enemy attacking team ever reach the payload in Hollywood thanks to those choke points.
She's situational, not our fault you can't use her.
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>>336666407
bullshit, i'm at 60-70fps 1440p 980ti 6500k

you must not have it fully maxed
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>>336666660
>Have to scatter and get off the point to avoid the ult
>Enemy team can move in and take the point

Goal achieved
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>>336664663
>tracer
>mccree
>pharrah
>reaper
>good

But the funniest fucking shit is this
>Every tank but Reinhardt

Reinhart is hands down the best tank in the entire game.
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how the hell do you heal yourself as mercy?
enemies always go for you first and with dumb as fuck teammates you die immediately.
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>>336666716
Widowmaker and McCree are popular. Both of them can oneshot Zenyatta
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>>336665869
>Game is unoptimised.
Playing it on my laptop with shit graphics but the framerate doesn't drop below 30 except when Hanzo ults and there's at least 4 other people on screen

>Game is designed so you don't need KB/M
This is straight up false. I play on both my laptop and ps4 and what I've found is that snipers are godly on PC and shit on PS4. I wonder why that is

>No little kids spamming chat.
I am 28 and spam "Hello" and "I hope you learned your lesson"
In any case kids spam everywhere

>PS4 was lead platform
Calling bullshit on that one. It runs too well with far too many customisation options for that to be true on pc
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>>336666792
>>336666632
Mcree is the best Offfensive character in the game
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How soon can I find a Chinese key for this pile on ebay for less than $20
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>>336666795
It's not listed, but the second part of her passive ability is that you automatically regenerate health after not taking damage for a few seconds.
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>Bastion not OP
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>>336666795
Fly away to other friend far away and you regain health when you don't hit in a while
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>>336666795
You heal over time. Sometimes you die because your team sucks dick. Sometimes you die because their Genji/Tracer/McCree/Mei/Hanzo/Widowmaker were fucking godly.
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>>336664663
>Zenyatta
>Only usable

I heard you like taking 50% extra damage from all sources faggot.
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>>336666692
I played my first match as Mercy yesterday and didn't get a single like or whatever it was. I didn't think I did THAT bad, I healed everyone in my vicinity, kept the power boost on whenever everyone was topped off, and revived when it was available. Should I be doing anything else?
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>>336666654
>>336666708
Are you sure? I KNOW for a fact that I was playing with Koreans once they got into the beta and i KNOW for a fact switching regions kept my stuff (contrary to every other Blizzard game so far). This could have just been an early beta thing though since the pool of players was smaller.
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>>336666769
Yes. It can clear points.
You know what else can clear points? Every other offensive ult ever. Except those actually kill your enemies instead of making them run away.

Both her ult and her character are bad.
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>>336666716
Popularity of Widow and Mcree.

His orbs now require LoS to keep on where before they only required LoS to apply.
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Just popped in with an absolutely friendly reminder that Tracer is actually one of the best and most fun characters in the game.

People are mad as fuck about her because she's the game's official mascot and they clearly don't know how to use her properly so it's easier to just shitpost.

Thanks for reading.
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>>336666880
Just pick Pharah or Junkrat and blow him up
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Zenyatta is the definition of a glass cannon. He fucking melts people even without the orb of discord, assuming you can land his shots.
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>>336666914
not him but I enjoy not being OHKO'd by a widowmaker bodyshot
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Do monk robots' balls have autoaim? Feels like I don't even need to aim them, just hold down the mouse button in the general direction for a kill.
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>>336664663
All I care about is that Mei is fun as fuck to play as.
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>>336666951
Just do what you do, usually when i get over 6k healing in match, i get likes
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>Fantasize about being a healslut in these games
>Remember everyone is legitimately a fucking retard
>Quit playing
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>>336666817
Well that isn't the only reason for the decline. The reason is that they gutted his kit, making him complete garbage. Discord orb, while amazing, is basically trash if the person you throw it on can LoS you and lose the orb. Zen being squishy obviously doesn't help the matter considering he needs to see the player to throw an orb and being seen mean being killed.
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I like how Zarya plays, but those shields are just so fucking short.
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>>336666847
>Mcree is the best Offfensive character in the game

No he's not. He's immobile as shit and only good when he's either really up close or to shoot down shit like Pharah flying around.

Soldier 76 is overall a million times better because he's so versatile (aoe heal, good mobility, rocket, great at all ranges and ult makes slippery characters like tracer, genji, etc. into jokes while keeping himself just as mobile).

Genji, Tracer and Reaper are the flankers and disruptive heroes. Pharah is fantastic in the right matches and offers some anti shield and stationary faggot utility. She is also very mobile so she can also flank easily.
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>>336666632
>Winston above Tracer

But he's fucking garbage.
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>tfw absolute shit at sniping
>will never be able to use Hanzo or Widowmaker effectively
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>>336665850
it sounds to me like you're just shit
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>>336666951
>caring about the commend system
It does nothing.
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Fuck robocunt and his retarded shield, it's the only character that stands out as being OP
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>>336667010
I understand Junkrat, but why pharah? Widowmaker would work much better at peaking and weird angles. Pharah is a giant target when she's in the air.
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>>336664663
>D Va
>Winston
>good

>Mei
>Reinhardt
>not in good
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>>336667109
Mcree can kill any tank in the game with his combo in like 2 seconds
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>Call a character bad
>Tons ofpeople jump out telling you why tbeir good
>Call a character op
>Tons of people telling you why they suck
This gamemight be a bit more balanced than people ae giving it credit for.
Not balanced enough though since Zenyatta doesnt have enough damn health. Take some of Roadhogs that dude is a nightmare to kill
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WHERE THE FUCK IS THE BASTION AND MEI NERF?????
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>losing a 1v1 mirror
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>>336667219
I forgot to mention Widowmaker, but Pharah is the goddess of flanking. There's always a way to surprise him, and since he's such a big target you can get a few direct rockets hits and kill him in 2-3 shots.

You can also bob and weave around a wall to throw him off.
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>it's a bastion turret play of the game episode
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>>336667248
>Take some of Roadhogs that dude is a nightmare to kill

No, fuck you. He's one of the biggest targets in the game. The offset of his size to his health basically makes him squishy.
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>>336667174
Not the commend system itself, but when I play a healer and don't get comms, I assume it means I played poorly and want to improve. Maybe I'm too used to FFXIV.
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>>336667259
>Mei freezes you and then gets right up in your fucking face and casually puts an icicle in your forehead


Shit, I misspelled icicle like four times before getting it right. It's such a weird looking word.
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>>336665869
lel, i have a meme card i get 140 fps at epic. i can also play at 35+ fps on an 8 yo pc I keep for parts
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Raise Junkrat. He's always good and hard counters all the mobile damage given delayed shot/boom and his knock up is great for rocket jumping and fucking up shield nerds positions.

One if the best the best the best
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>>336667248
McCreed is literally meant to kill tanks quick.

A full load of his right click will pretty much insta kill any tank
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>>336666759
did you disable limiter? it's not display based and bugged
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>>336666691

more waifu potential this way
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>>336667245
And? He has to be really up close but offers no utility or mobility.

Reaper also shits on tanks if he hands his shots while having sustain and much better utility.

McCree isn't shit, but he sure as hell isn't the end all be all attacker.
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is anyone working on smaller weapon models?
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>>336667065
>>Fantasize about being a healslut in these games

You were the retard all along anon.
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Uhh, Reinhardt is insanely broken next to Mcree & Lucio anon.
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>tfw playing on PS4
Probably the best version.
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I hate when people cant just get behind my shield as reinhardt and take out shit. For some reason people think it´s a good idea to run towards bastion in his turret mode.
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>>336667516
>Not sucking dick to heal your team
Reaper edgelord spotted.
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>play the beta
>everyone is super retarded
>remember why i don't play team games

Dropped. Not gonna waste my time on one of these games again.
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>>336667570
Same but i realized they probably think that they can't shoot throught it
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>>336667570
But anon, as one of the 3 snipers on your team on attack, I need to find a vantage point!
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>>336667523


Uhhh... git fucking good
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>>336667491
yes, getting 60-80 on average

everything maxed apart from render scale at 150 and AA on high. could render scale be the problem? dont even know what it is
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>>336667479
>That fucking trap
Oh god, it's so good. People constantly just walk right into it.

He's my favorite hero by far.
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>>336667830
Try the console experience.
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>Symmetra
>Torbjorn

classic pubshitters
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>>336666632
>paying attention to a list made by a guy who doesnt even have beta and just watches vids all day.

Metafags are cancer. Play what you enjoy as long as it suits the team. I've seen tons of great zenyatta players this week.
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>>336664663
>Every tank but Reinhardt
Someone isn't using Reinhardt properly.
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>>336667740
I guess. I do love the character and the kit he has. But playing payload in random match trying to push is not gonna happen. People are far too busy doing random shit on the map.
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>>336666632
Mei that low. At every point. I call bullshit
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>>336667917
A mirror match but with Lucio instead of Zenyatta will always win if the players are equally skilled, that's the point of a tier list just because the character you like is bad don't mean the tier list is wrong
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Does anyone else play the random character mode? I find it pretty fun, and useful for learning how to play against every character.
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>tfw no one plays hanzo
>no one even realizes the potiental he has
>been wining every game i play yet with at least 15 kills
His AoE ultimate is god tier, you don't even need to expose yourself
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>tfw 70% of my deaths are from snipers
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Can safely say most of the people I play are cancer free besides honzo because holy shit sometimes I just want to win
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>>336668078
it's fucking bullshit. I was playing earlier, capping point B with my team. Hanzo spawns, uses his ultimate FROM SPAWN and kills my ENTIRE team through the wall. What the fuck
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>>336668176
>Zenyatta
>Reinhardt
>Winston

bro tier right there m8, gj
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>>336664663
>torbjorn
>bad

???

also

>winston
>not useless
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>>336668176
Reinhartd is pretty cancer.

His giant shield is pretty broken to be honest.

2k health is way too much and it regenerates too when you put the shield down.

It honestly needs like a 3 second cooldown so they can't just put it up, remove it to dps and put it back up again all willy nilly
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I FUCKING HATE ROADHOG AND HIS HOOK
Every single time he fucking hook me and one shot me even at full HP, fuck that!

also
>i'm potg for the first time
> it's my ultimate killing 3 guy
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>love sniping in FPS games but my aim is terrible and I miss easy flicks

I just wanna be useful and have fun at the same time. I wish I could use you Widow.
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>>336668279
Winston counters a lot surprisingly

His gun goes through Reinhardts shield and I was going against a full team of Genji and completely mopped the floor with them
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Also, i always play Mccree, the thing is : His two powerup are ridiculous. The flashbang have to hit someone so he is stunned, but guess what? They're stunned for only 1 SECONDS! I stunned a genji and i was surprised to see that it literally had no effect. Same thing for the roll : Long to charge, you can be killed while rolling, useless generally.

I fucking hate this game sometimes.
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>>336668287
Reinhardt actually needs buffs man, he's too much of a defensive guy

his charge needs to activate a lot faster. He needs to be able to be some kind of threat. other than that I think he's perfect
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>>336668279
winston is fun to play. Although im not sure why he's a tank. I use him to take out snipers and medics by abusing his jump.
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there are zero absolutely useless classes
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>>336668078
scattershot to the ground is the best thing, kills almost everything in one shot
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>>336668410
all i can say is, git gud.
mccree is actually really good once you get the hang of it. His flashbang ability is incredible.
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>>336666832
>>336666074
>30fps
>60fps
>For a competitive shooter

Top kek 144fps is the standard 120fps is okay but ur gonna take a hit to ur frag potential kiddo
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>>336668410
Genji is McCrees counter
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>>336668287
Just get a Mei to walk in circles around him. Done that to a few Reinhardts and they all freaked out and just stood still trying to keep the shield between us.

I don't think most people know that you can just walk right through Reinhardt's shield.
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>>336664663
is pharah OP or am i just good as her
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>Traveling to Dorado
>Traveling to Dorado
>Traveling to Dorado
>Traveling to Dorado
HELP
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That shield the hammer dude has is 2 OP

nerf fucking WHEN?

Whats a good counter for that?
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>>336668535
if anything pharah is underpowered
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>>336668562
that Russian map is the biggest shit
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>>336668078
>no one plays hanzo

uh
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>its a everyone thinks something is OP because they are good at it, or shit because they are bad at it episode
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>>336668420
>reinhardt needs buffs
leave it to /v/ to be complete ass at video games

reinhardt is with mcree widow and lucio the four heroes that need slight nerfs
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>>336668535
Her ult is shit, rest is ok
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>>336668602
>First point is incredibly hard to cap
>Capping it gives you F I V E M I N U T E S to get the second, much easier point
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>>336666666
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>>336667196
>Shield

If you're talking about Bastion, he doesn't have the shield anymore. Traded it in for the ability to swivel around 360 degrees while in turret mode.
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Bastion destroys literally anything he puts his mouse cursor over in less than a second. He's broken as fuck.
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>>336668690
explain how he's so OP then.

i explained how i think he needs a buff. he's complete crap offensively unless you have an ult and good timing with the whole enemy team all together
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Symmetra does need a buff but she's got great utility if you aren't a piece of shit.
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>>336668767
He allows Mcree and Widomaker stand in the open and snipe people
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>>336668745
Dubs have been disabled on /v/ for years you fucking retard

Check these zeroes though
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is it a tf2 knockoff? or does it stand on its own as a unique shooter?
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>>336669043
more fun than TF2
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>>336668767
A hero who's godlike and mandatory in every push and often defense does NOT need to be good offensively, which he still is decent at

The charge time of his shield is laughably short and he allows your team to get the few quick firstkills before your team suffering them since they can shoot through it. His ulti is also extremely strong since it's a guaranteed kill on whoever you hit as long as your team doesn't consist of 5 russians, a long stun absolutely rapes in a game like overwatch

You need to understand Overwatch is a heavily team-based game and calling a hero bad just because he's not a god at EVERYTHING is just silly. Reinhardt is one of the few tanks who you actually legitimately NEED to kill when he's there, Winston achieves kind of the same but to a lesser extent since he jumps behind enemy lines with his thunderdome and is more a distraction than a legitimate tank
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>>336664663
Got an 18 killstreak yesterday with Tornbjorn. Git gud.
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>>336664663
Is Roadfatass the most OP characrter in game?
>deal insane dps
>has tons on health
>can heal himself
>can pull over characters in and one shot them mitigating his slowness?
I think he needs a nerf, worse than Pharrah.
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>>336669043
It's not a TF2 knockoff
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>>336668846
The problem is they stuck her in the same category as 3 healers. Those little shields aren't shit compared to just being healed.

>>336669043
It's got a different pace from TF2. Less players, smaller maps generally speaking, and shorter rounds. The open beta is going right now, just go play it.
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>>336668873
he also counters enemy Mccrees and Widowmakers super hard

that's just who is shit and who is not shit at that point
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>>336669175
stun or zeny discord and he becomes paper
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>>336669175
You are not going to get nerfs, what you are going to get is a lesson about being able to counter pick characters and teams. So GIT GUD.
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>>336669175
Exactly what i said. Fucking annoying to play against.

Thanks god for mccree six shot burst attack
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>>336669153
yeah, i know. i just find myself """"""maining"""""" him a lot since no one likes tanking and it would be nice to be able to do some of the things others can
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>>336669043
It's TF2 but with less advanced movement and slower pace
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>>336669243
yeah well the thing is if the enemy doesn't have him and you do you have an insane advantage

There's a reason he's among the most played heroes in the few tournaments played this far, and he'll definitely remain so
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>>336668509
>Playing it on my laptop with shit graphics
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>>336669308
tanks are always hell to main, more often than not you just find yourself frustrated since absolutely nobody does anything with the space and advantge you're creating. Fun as fuck with a good team though
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>waah wahh nerf this, nerf that
>muh meta
Look what you have done blizz, you brought the moba cancerous fanbase to fps games.
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>>336669408
This is why I won't buy the game. Its only fun if you got a bit of teamwork going and fuck doing that with pubs.
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>>336669482
>Blizzard's audience is shit nowadays

Wow I never would have guessed.
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>>336668712
I could always get the first cap easily even with a bad team but not the second.
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>>336669515
If you git gud you'll be matched with other people who have gotten gud and you'll see a lot more teamwork
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>>336667147
It's because of a cheese strategy where you pick 2 or more Winstons when on attack or in king of the hill. Once you have eh point you throw down a shield. As soon as i breaks another winston throws down his. With 2 winstons this is annoying, any more than that and you really can't stop it unless they fuck up or you coordinate really well.
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>tfw 95% of match on fire as Roadhog
Feed me more Tracers
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>>336669617
this is not the case

I have six thousand MMR points in dota 2, it's something like top 300 people in the entire europe. Matchmaking simply isn't good enough to create teams that consist of actually good players, it's legitimately not possible without 2 hour queuetimes because even the top 0,5% of the playerbase suck ass. It applies to every single game
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>>336668763
I saw him eat a Roadhog in less than a second, it's silly
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>>336666284
as a white man, I play niggers every day
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>>336669408
>block out 4 people as the big shield guy
>my team is fucking around behind me doing nothing
>a junkrat plings me from a doorway next to us and nobody seems to nothice or bother
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>>336668763
>broken as fuck
>a hero that's STATIONARY
change to literally any of these heroes and wreck his robot ass

genji
widowmaker
pharah
junkrat
tracer
>>
Where do I find people to play with
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The only thing OW does better than TF2 is porn.
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>>336670042
with the help of a zenyatta debuff he's as good as dead from stray bullets as well.
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>All these salty TF2fags mad their game is gone and forgotten

How long until they stop being salty and accept OW is the new Team Fortress?
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>>336667305
>its a bastion and reindhardt ride the payload episode
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Actual tier list

>Superb
Tracer in the hands of a pro
Widowmaker with mlg skills
Mccree if you can shoot people in the head without zoom from 7682562 miles
Roadhog fuck yeah
Lucio on some maps
>Good
Genji
Mei
Reinhardt with a player above lvl 15 because noobs just hold right button
Zarya
Mercy
Lucio on every map
Hanzo
>OK
Reaper
S76
Bastion
Junkrat
Widowmaker (not pro player)
Zenyatta
Torbjörn
>Kinda crap
Mccree with shit player
Pharah because only usable on like 2 maps
Winston, dies in 2 seconds does no damage whatsoever
Symmetra because every Symmetra player is just camping where no one can see it taking a good player away from the team
Tracer played by a waifu shitter
D.Va more like wtf plz waifu shitter pick a hero that does more damage than a light breeze in summer time
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>>336670042
>stationary
Did you miss how he can pretty much instantly unroot and move places
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>>336669823
>dota 2

already you're opinion on anything is shit

but you're wrong anyway. half of the complaints in these threads are things i never witness because i'm at such a """"high skill level""""". Most insta win ults are completely useless when i play because everyone knows how to counter that shit super well.
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>>336670282
did you miss how it doesn't change shit since you know where he is every time he shoots? Good luck trying to unroot and run away when pharah starts barraging rockets or when widowmaker hits that first hit that takes 60% of your life away
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>>336670595
If he's any competent he's not going to be in a spot where a widowmaker can confortably shit on him, he's going to be in a corner mowing down a few people before switching position and mowing down a few more
And then he switches into tank mode while getting full life and tons of armour and onehits some more people
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>mfw people shoot at range with d.va

You're supposed to get your laser cannons up in their face so the massive spread doesn't fuck you over you weebshit
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10141606/r
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10141606/r
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>>336670901
You fucked up
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>>336665894
i liek
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>>336670876
SO HARD THIS
tfw people dont ram perople then shopot them to death
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>>336670224
If you think D.Va does bad damage you've obviously never rocket punched someone with your defense matrix up.
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>>336671209
>The fear when you see a D.Va with a defense matrix up about to ram you.
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>>336671540
wait, she can ram people?
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>>336671372
>turbosvin
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>>336671596
Use your rocket booster or whatever it's called, ram someone with it and then melee to shoot. Not only will it probably startle most shit played, it's also got mad knockback.

If I had a dollar for ever Widowmaker that thought they were safe I pushed off a map...

Like I said before, bonus points if you put up defense matrix. You're pretty much invincible for the duration of your charge.

And if that's not enough, you'll put them perfectly within range to get every shot with your cannons on them, especially if they're Winston/Roadhog size.
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>>336671812
mfw someone did that to me yesterday and my grappling hook barely didn't reach far enough
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> ACTUAL OFFICIAL REAL UNCOMPROMISED TIERLIST

It's a casual mainstream fps and nobody cares wether your hero takes 9% or 12% brain capacity you fucking simpletons.
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>>336671448
anyone with a functioning brain can get out of the way

also by design you stay away from D Va and dont get close too her so it's virtually useless

like, probably great against open beta shitters but that doesn't mean anything
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>>336671997
It just works, Anon.
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>>336664663
>people still think Torbjorn is bad
>people still think his turret is the only thing worth diddly
>mfw headshots kill so fast
>mfw people try and bum rush the turret only to get smacked down
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>>336664663
all are top tier
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>>336671636
Junkrat - Krasavchik
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>tfw healslut
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>>336672230
Hi shotgun is insane, I keep underestimating it
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>>336672201
I was just surprise, I'll not be caught by that again
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>>336672182
Dude, she's not an angry bull. If you see a D.Va flying in a straight line, they're shit. D.Va can literally turn on a dime. It's not as easy to get out of the way as you might think.

Even if you do, I'm still close enough to knock your health down, and if you do manage to destroy my mech, I have a last ditch chance to finish you off in my squishy form.
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where can I find people to play with, these games aren't fun alone
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>>336672321
Good. Don't let me get comfortable with using the same strategy over and over. I'll never get better that way.

t. D.Va.
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I suck at videogames. Is this game for me?
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>>336664663
>Dwarf
>Bad
I'll just make sure to pick up 20 kills with my turret.
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>>336664663
I thought Overwatch was that fantasy RPG with the animals who walk on their hindlegs?
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>>336672519
Yes
>>
BUFF D.VA
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>>336665869
Over here you can see a peasent trying to get out of hia corner.
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