The greatest battle in the history of vidya.
Who would win in a fight - Dota 2, or League of Legends?!
>Paying attention to Assfaggots lore
They both kill each other and then we win.
league champions are stronger
>>336634981
League already won
>>336635843
HoN
>>336635843
No they aren't.
>>336635843
whoa, underage fag. Where do you think you are, GameFAQs?
The best one isthe ones your friends play
DAY VS NIGHT
>>336635947
HoN heroes are really weak compared to LoL and DotA2 heroes.
Source:I still play it for Midwars
>>336634981
I would want to see that fight. Sure LoL as a fuckton more champions to use but I think DOTA has more powerhouses that could cut huge chunks out of the LoL roster
we all die of AIDs
shut the fuck up
>>336634981
Well anything is better than League (lol flash), but Smite is the best MOBA.
>>336634981
Autism wins. Flawless victory.
>>336635998
Imagine Invoker,Druken Master,Mage Bane or Nomad in LoL.
>>336636119
1880 mmr ex-HoN
And played all three games. HoN heroes are inbalanced.
Captain America = League of Legends
Iron Man = Dota 2
Numerically, LoL would win.
Taking design into account, DotA2 would win because they have "toxic" designs like mana burn, healing, and 3+ second stuns. Zeus with refresher takes everyone in LeL down to 20-50% health.
>>336636304
S2's nerfed everything in the game, pretty much. Everyone is much weaker now, especially damage wise. Zephyrs tornadoes don't even deal 15 damage a second anymore.
>>336636325
Realistically if the two were killing to kill each other Tony would curb stomp
>>336636379
Also teleport scroll, and base defense button that's available to everyone, and blink dagger.
So toxic.
did you really just take a shitty deviant art tier meme and post it on /v/
>>336635998
yeah they are, the average league champ has extremely high mobility even without summoner spells and will usually have two skills that combo together for much higher damage at level 2 than all but a few dota heroes.
AP heros that have 2 or more aoes could wipe entire dota teams on their own as there is not enough magic defense in dota to match league AP stacking and magic defense piercing.
>Zeus, Spectre, Nature's Prophet, all press R at onceBloodseeker
auto-win
>>336634981
>game that balances itself by making everyone strong as fuck versus a game that nerfs everyone every patch and balances by weakening and streamlining everything
Hmm, I wonder which would win
![b85168657c[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/OSsYGyu.jpg "b85168657c[1].jpg")
Assuming it's all at once, DotA2 wins. What you'd have to do to skew it in Leagues favor if it's all of them
>Every hero/champion allotted only 6-10k gold
>No activatable items, only passives
>Capped at level 18 for LoL babs so it isn't "unfair"
>No Aegis
>Heroes evenly split between all the lanes
>Set in League of LeL's map, not DotA2's
>press R
>win
>>336636325
Did he died? Also is this what normies hype up? This looks like shit.
>>336636938
>Capped at level 18 for LoL babs so it isn't "unfair"
Is this actually how the numbers and scaling falls or are you just blindly assuming levels are a standard of power in both games?
>>336636648
DotA2 has magic immunity fuckface. Not to mention magic damage reduction can be as high as 60%. AP Heroes wouldn't be worth jack shit.
Dota can just ravage multiple times and clear out League scum like napalm in Vietnam.
>>336637057
Stats are much more important as of last patch in Doto. You're missing out in +14 to every stat (which is worth more than 2k gold in DotA2) with those 7 levels removed.
So yeah, the level difference is actually pretty important.
>>336636510
>Realistically if the two were killing to kill each other Tony would curb stomp
Cap is stronger and a better fighter. He also regenerates.
Tony only stands a chance from a distance. Once the fight becomes CQC, cap wins every time
>>336637282
I don't think you actually read my post.
>>336637054
Tony dies yes.
But Cheadle the Beatle is the new Iron man now so it's not like much as changed.
Is it going to be the same scaling on DotA heroes and items, or will they be nerred/LoL champs+items buffed to compensate?
And what size map are they playing on? DotA or League? And will the distances of the abilities and times be scaled down for DotA/up for LoL?
If there is no pre-fight balance, DotA just flat-out wins because the DotA numbers are ebtter. Pudge's hook deals as much damage as most League ults. Magnus's ult, hell, even Tidehunter's ult, would be far too powerful. Most crits would need recaling, base damage would need rescaling, basically all abilities would need rescaling....
I mean, the only hero from DtoA who jumps out at me as a fair approximation of a League champion in strength is probably Shadow Demon, and even then, he's got a lot of bullshit League champions couldn't counter well.
Also, the easy availability of invis within DotA would probably be a problem as well. Heroes like Broodmother, Riki, and Bounty Hunter would probably be near-impossible to counter for most League champs if their invis detection doesn't receive a boost.
Overall, I think DotA probably has the advantage, because again, the items and abilities scale better and deal more damage, and because DotA uses mechanics that League champs would struggle with.
But beyond that, even if all that is changed and accounted for, DotA has a more diverse roster with unique abilities, which would probably give them the edge in any head-to-head fight. League ability kits are notoriously cookie-cutter, which means that while there's technically a could hundred LoL chamions, there's really only maybe a dozen different LoL archetypes--in comparison to DotA, where just about every hero has a unique niche that no other champion can replicate. That unpredictability would proabbly give DotA heroes the edge. Just think about someone like Garen ambushing Meepo--and not realizing that his ass is about to meet another 4 Meepos who are popping in from everywhere else on the map.
>>336637332
Stats are scaling.
Techies alone could fight the whole League roster.
>>336637556
That's not what I said.
What I'm asking you is if 18 levels in Dota is the same measure of power as 18 levels in LoL, or if LoL champions get more stats per level or something so the dota cap would need to be somewhere between 18 and 25 in order to balance out. I never said anything about stats not being scaling.
Reading isn't hard
>>336634981
It would be like watching Nazi Germany fight Soviet Russia. Quality versus quantity.
>>336634981
>MOBAs
>>336637294
Tony should really have rekt him if his shitty movie suit wasn't made of fucking tinfoil.
Iron Man is so god damn underpowered in the MCU.
>>336637232
Why is Zeus getting knocked back at some weird angle?
>>336637687
That's not even comparable, since LoL doesn't have strength/intelligence/agility gain. If you look at the raw benefits from stats, yes, DotA2 is more advantaged by the extra 7 levels, since it equates to 200-500 extra health, 25-50 extra damage, 3-12 extra armor, 250-600 extra mana, and so on.
Reading isn't hard.
>>336637989
>I posted it again ecks dee
League plays a lot better, mostly because DotA 2 is super awkward to play with shitty turn ratios. Client/Payment Model is better in DotA2, though.
Not sure how DotA is going nowadays, but the last year of League changes have completely killed the game for me, so I guess right now both are complete shit.
>>336637915
That's not an accurate comparison, Dota has 'quantity' it's just a different kind.
While League has more champions in Dota you got shit like Meepo and LD who literally bring 4 or 1 extra. Terrorblade, Arc Warden, Naga Siren and Chaos Knight are also multiple heroes in one when used right. Invoker also has like x3 the amount of abilities.
>>336638087
>because DotA 2 is super awkward to play with shitty turn ratios
If you're actually capable of understanding that the game is its own thing and isn't intended to be like LoL, this ceases to be a problem.
>>336634981
I play both games but I think that LOL is better sorry Dota2 fans love ya.
>>336638087
>shitty turn ratios
a true league player folk
>>336638087
Not the question, though.
Who would win in a head-to-head fight: the LoL roster or the DotA roster?
>>336634981
if we're talking about playerbase LoL would overwhelm dota 2 players with numbers, if it's about game lore dota 2 heroes would demolish LoL.
if it's about the actual game then both will lose.
>>336638143
>thinking I'm talking about video game characters
The communities, you dumbass.
>>336638054
>Reading isn't hard.
Clearly it is, because you're still babbling about random vaguely related bullshit instead of actually answering me.
So you're saying yes, the LoL stat growth leaves them at around the same place as Dota heroes at the same level? Why not just say that to begin with?
>>336638265
>>336638159
Sorry that I want my character to move when I click, not 5 minutes later. No idea how people defend that shitty gameplay.
>>336638310
Doesn't say that anywhere in the OP.
>>336638506
>Sorry that I want my character to move when I click, not 5 minutes later. No idea how people defend that shitty gameplay.
I bet you also think FPS games' controls are shit because you can't turn around in one frame.
Way to out yourself as a retard.
>>336638506
This turn speed is what makes melee carries possible, which I know is something you can't even imagine in LoL.
>>336638439
Because you're fucking retarded and completely failed to say what you meant? Reread your first post when you sober up.
>>336638506
>Sorry that I want my character to move when I click, not 5 minutes later.
Fix your shitty ping.
>>336638609
>Oops, I didn't read and made myself look like a retard! I'd better try and turn it around on him to save face!
>>336638716
I see no ecchi here, you have failed. Kys familia.
HotS has all my waifu's.
>>336638602
Melee carries aren't viable in League? Are you batshit retarded?
>>336638576
What a fucking atrocious argument. FPS games are limited by their field of view by design, and in most of them you can turn as quickly as your mouse will possibly let you. Imagine having turn ratios in first person shooters, where you could only turn as fast the game wanted to let you, and it was slower/faster on some characters. There's an enemy behind me that I can't see right now, better get him! Sometime soon...Man, you just outed yourself as a legitimate downs syndrome retard, holy shit mate.
>>336638898
Melee carries aren't viable, enjoy your duo-bot ranged ADC+support lanes forever.
>>336638439
>the LoL stat growth leaves them at around the same place as Dota heroes at the same level? Why not just say that to begin with?>>336637687
>
Because you can't fucking tell you moron. Stats in DotA make a lot more difference than in league and the scale between the two is too fucked to even determine. He said level 18 because LoL has the shittier community that would whine that the heroes go up to 25 despite 18 not being the max level for any fucking game but theirs.
I have no idea why in gods name people took to this argument from a gameplay perspective and not a lore one in the first place.
Whoever wins, gaming loses. MOBAs are absolutely, undoubtedly, without question, objectively the WORST game genre ever created.
>hurr let's take RTS
>add in action game poorly with indirect controls
>add in light rpg elements so everyone can become stupidly strong over the other team by griefing and being insanely cheap over and over again
>oh and by the way fuck balance, let's just make everyone with random elements to make it look like it's balanced and patch it using further randomized elements to look like we're trying to keep it balanced
GARBAGE
>>336638716
Hey, I fucking loved Demigod. Shame it died immediately. Tried to bridge the gap between ASSFAG and RTS.
>>336638898
>FPS games are limited by their field of view by design
Just like how Dota is limited in turn speed by its design. The game is built around it, it's what gives melee carries viability and gives you a chance to interrupt heavy hitting spells.
>Imagine having turn ratios in first person shooters, where you could only turn as fast the game wanted to let you, and it was slower/faster on some characters.
It wouldn't work, because FPSs aren't built around it. This isn't fucking rocket science, I seriously hope you're trying to make yourself look like a retard.
Stop criticizing games you don't actually understand via mechanics that wouldn't work in other unrelated games.
>>336638898
melee carries haven't been viable forever, you have two melee carries and the other team has one ranged carry? you lose thats it, without the enemy team being worse in every way a ranged carry beats no ranged carry
>>336639215
Actually only Dota has RTS controls, League doesn't.
>>336639112
>Stats in DotA make a lot more difference than in league and the scale between the two is too fucked to even determine.
Why are you telling me this? I never said otherwise. More proof you can't read.
>He said level 18 because LoL has the shittier community that would whine that the heroes go up to 25 despite 18 not being the max level for any fucking game but theirs.
Source? And why are you even fucking replying if you aren't the guy I was asking?
>>336636049Luna vs Celestia
>>336636648
Blademail exists, I'm pretty sure most abilities in league are telegraphed so you'd just walk into a skill shot with blademail up and kill the squishy mage.
>>336638035
Nope. In the comics cap is stronger as well
>>336639096
You've never played a single game of league, it's obvious
>>336639619
But I have played League, in fact I played it before going to Dota 2.
>>336639619
Not him, but I've played LoL since season 2 and not once have I seen a melee carry lane position 1 with a support without getting completely stomped
I'm sorry that you're in denial about your shit game's shitty forced meta
>>336639373
>Why are you telling me this? I never said otherwise. More proof you can't read.
Because you apparently cannot comprehend the fact.
>Source? And why are you even fucking replying if you aren't the guy I was asking?
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Experience_(champion)
http://www.playdota.com/mechanics/experience
Oh, and i'm replying because this is a fucking image board you twat. Its a public discussion forum not a goddamn email. Anybody can and should interject to call you a faggot at any time.
>>336636325
>iron man armor stops a fucking tank round in the first movie
>hes losing to punches
marvel shit is so fucking stupid
>>336637394
>Tony Dies
So there's like no reason to watch any MCU Iron man movies that come out in the future. Cool to know.
>>336639872
He didn't stop a tank round he dodged it/it missed.
>>336639390
while that is true most of the modern champs have an instant skill where the animation is basically just a formality and quite a few of league assassin type champs are actually invincible while doing certain attacks so you would get damaged and your blade mail does nothing
>>336639619
Yeah, buddy, unless you're playing an extremely passive farming role in the jungle, you aren't being a melee carry.
The lack of a turnrate fucks melees over so hard in Leaue. It's fine if they're supports, and aren't trying to smack people for damage, but actual damage-dealers need a ridiculously strong gap-closer AND need to build/have a way to speed themselves up to avoid kiting.
Otherwise, they're fucking dead to any ranged hero with the same farm.
>>336639619
Are you bronze? Name one viable melee carry.
>>336639940
>death in Marvel
>ever mattering
>>336639798
>Because you apparently cannot comprehend the fact.
It's weird that you think I can't comprehend something I never brought up or posted either side's opinion on. Back to the whole "you being unable to read" thing...
>http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Experience_(champion)
I mean source that he only said 18 because the community would cry about it and not because of actual power comparisons, you drooling retard. Read the words on your fucking screen.
>Oh, and i'm replying because this is a fucking image board you twat. Its a public discussion forum not a goddamn email. Anybody can and should interject to call you a faggot at any time.
There's a difference between joining a public conversation and anonymously answering a question directed at another specific person without even specifying you're someone else.
>>336640002
Too bad League doesn't have real assassins.
if fans of both all died tonight from cheetoh overdoes, all of video gaming would be better off
2bh
>>336640190
Are you fucking stupid? You've had two people answer your fucking question and you still don't get. You're the one that needs to work on Reading Comprehension.
>Niggers talking about game mechanics instead of lore-wise
>>336640416
>get btfo
>can't come up with a rebuttal so you just cry "hurr ur stupid"
Thanks for admitting that I was right and you can't read. It would have been less embarrassing for you to just not even reply
>>336640193
That's the other thing, league flavor of the month cancer stays cancer for far longer then that
>>336640027
>not knowing about op as fuck tryndamere
fuck off
>>336640443
>DotA Character is an actual black hole,
>Another DotA hero is the personification of the heat death of the universe.
>yet another is an omniscient being
I think DotA snags this
>>336640443
>yfw riot posted blatant furfag foot fetish art of him in an official fan art gallery
![b50fb8d6a3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Lirqgp0.jpg "b50fb8d6a3[1].jpg")
>>336640443
>Some DotA2 heroes are literally Gods or primeval elements
>B-but lore
DotA2 still wins m8.
>>336640541
I'm not even the dude I'm just telling you you're a fucking retard.
>>336640808
>oops I keep getting outed as a retard, better pretend I'm someone else
>>336634981
How could they fight? They're pieces of software, they don't even have a physical form.
>>336640443
Dota characters are gods and reality benders. Easy victory
>>336640901
>"there's no way l could just actually be a retard"
> "it must be the same guy"
I'll say it again. You are a complete retard.
>>336640443
>One dude who makes stars compared to
>incarnation of Entropy
>incarnations of the 4 fundamental forces
>several rulers of different underworlds and hells
>literal satan
>a time weaver
>a harbinger of doom
>several immortal super wizards
Out matched. And the closest I can think of to Sol's power level, lore wise, would be the shadow isle bros. which are just a reaper, a lich, and a soul collector.
>>336640712
>Any non-humanoid being is a furry
Liking Godzilla makes you a furryfag right?
>>336634981
Dota 2.
And LoLfags can't denied that.
>>336641215
>literal Satan
You mean totally not Satan.
>>336638046
He got hit by the outer edge of the blast, so he got pushed in the direction where it made contact.
>>336641341
Did your retard mind run out of words? I'm sorry that you can't understand something that two people spelled out clearly for you. That doesn't make me stupid or a samefag.
>>336640901
Since you appear to be autistic and need it said as plainly as possible: no, putting dota heroes at level 18 does not put them on equal footing with champions when looking purely at stats. This is based off the assumption that the stats are somehow equivalent given the games and completely overlooking the difference in strength of spells and items.
>>336641259
No, it makes you a scalie.
>>336634981
How can two pieces of software fight?
>>336641545
>I'm sorry that you can't understand something that two people spelled out clearly for you.
I'm sorry that you still can't read, because this has nothing to do with anything. The only thing I asked was where the first guy's logic was based on, which I guess I never got an answer from if you're someone else so he still hasn't replied.
>>336641595
>This is based off the assumption that the stats are somehow equivalent given the games and completely overlooking the difference in strength of spells and items.
Why are you telling me this? I know that, that's exactly what I was calling the first guy out on. Do you even know what you're replying to?
>>336641341
>>336641595
That's three
and here's four, No, level 18 in DotA and Level 18 in League are not equal.
>>336641665
Depends on how you define their fights.
>Heroes fighting champions
>Developer teams fighting each other
>Development companies fighting each other
I have no real opinion on the first. I think the Riot devs would beat the Valve devs up, they have more to lose. Riot the company would definitely lose to Valve though.
>>336641780
>answering things nobody asked
>even further proving how much of an illiterate retard you are
>>336637232
That motherfucker needs a fucking nerf.
If you pick invoker, kill yourself.
>>336641776
>>336641595
Ok this proves that he is in fact a complete fucking moron.
>>336641929
>admitting you were wrong
LoL won so hard that now Dota is trying to be like it
top kek
>>336641868
But that's exactly what you asked you imbecile >>336637687
Right here
Now fuck off
>>336641665
Well for one, you can literally code in the other piece of software into it.
http://defenseofthelegends.tumblr.com/
>>336637057
>Is this actually how the numbers and scaling falls or are you just blindly assuming levels are a standard of power in both games?
>>336641981
Again, since you are autistic i'll put this simply:no, but LoL community is fucking cancer and would bitch and moan that 25 is a higher number than 18.
Jesus, didn't think i'd have to be retard wrangling at 11:20. And if this is bait its pretty fucking good, at least two of us have bitten hard.
Wraith King vs Mordekaiser
Kunkka vs Gangplank
Tiny vs Malphite
Dragon Knight vs Shyvana
Timbersaw vs Rumble
Axe vs Darius
Brewmaster vs GragasTechies vs Teemo
>>336634981
>checks month
Ah right, summer has started.
>>336642193
>Kunkka vs Gangplank
>>336642193
Mordekaiser exists, the winner was already decided.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u7MMy4tJ3g
We already had this fight
LoL players embarrassed a Dota team
>Karthus
>press R
>Entire Dota2 Army gibbed.
>>336642067
I was asking if that's WHY he said the levels should be at 18, and not just because a blind assumption that levels have the same amount of power in both games. It's common sense that the stats are different, I was asking if he (probably you) knew that. Then you, being a massive retard, started crying NO THE STATS ARE DIFFERENT YOU CAN'T READ EVEN THOUGH I'M THE ONE COMPLETELY MISSING THE POINT AND NOT GETTING THE QUESTION
>>336642187
You can consider it you baiting yourself if that makes you feel any better about how much of an idiot you're being
>>336641868
>asks a question
>is so fucking stupid he needs multiple explanations
>doesn't even remember what he asked
>assumes everyone else is stupid
I pray to the sandnigger God that you never reproduce.
>>336642362
>bad zeus
>>336642362
>pops blademail
lol
>>336642193
>Wraith King vs Mordekaiser
>
>Kunkka vs Gangplank
>
>Tiny vs Malphite
>
>Dragon Knight vs Shyvana
>
>Timbersaw vs Rumble
>
>Axe vs Darius
>
>Brewmaster vs Gragas
>
>Techies vs Teemo
18 vs. 25? 6 slotted? And in what kind of engagement? Assuming just running into each other casting shit:
>Ostarion
>Kunkka
>Tiny
>DK
>Timber, rumble can't into anti-tank
>Axe with new blademail
>Gragas is too much about harass and disruption, Brew
>SUICIDE SQUAD, ATTACK!
>>336642362
>Zeus with aghs
>press R
>refresh
>press R again
>I SMELL BLOOD
>>336642326
>A literally who LoL team vs a literally who DoTA players
why are you posting this again?
DOTA 2 because griefing is easier.
Just pretend you're new and do retarded shit to get people raging. You can even do it on ranked and never be punished as long as you pretend to be retarded.
You can also report people insulting you and get them comms banned along with a nice notice thanking you for improving the community
http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/5/55/Tide_rival_04.mp3
>>336642362
I really hope this is bait
>>336642362
>550 magic damage
fucking kek
>>336636029
>tfw your online friends play dota but your irl friends play lol
can't win
>>336642393
>I was asking WHY
What the fuck do you think? Literally anyone else can see this. Also >>336637687 is your own words. You are genuinely the stupidest person in have spoken to in a while.
>>336642734
stfu pigfucker
go play your flash game
>Why do you need to own all of the champions? Have you even played every DotA hero despite them all being free?
Completely different games. One has depth and takes skill and time to attempt to master. The other is a meme game for kids with pool party skins. You either want to feel rewarded through skill or rewarded for having a higher level account with more perks.
>>336642824
> Play exclusively all random
I have played them all. Some heroes I absolutely hate and just feed as them, but I've played every single hero multiple times.
>>336642794
>s-shut up stop Blowing me the fuck out.
Get the fuck outta here
>>336642824
>Have you even played every DotA hero despite them all being free?
I think i've only played meepo once but I have played every hero at least once.
>>336642734
Just flattening dota heroes out to the same level cap seems like pretty arbitrarily specific choice if you're aware of how off the scales in power are, so it's safe to assume he might have just been being a tard and equaling the levels as if power per level is the same in both games.
>Also >>336637687 is your own words.
That post is me asking him if he thinks the power metrics are equal or if he was just being dumb when he gave the number 18. By requesting an answer FROM HIM (not you, another person who already knows how the stats work like I do), it tells me which he meant.
You still can't read and you're still a retard.
But which game has betterhusbandos?
>>336642362
Literally weaker Zeus ult.
Literally. In every way. And so easy to dodge with all the disjoints in DotA, it's not eve funny.
>>336642362
kek,
badZeus desu
550 magic dmg vs 640x2 magic dmg with no delay
>>336642880
>I like having to unlock the champions, it gives you a goal. It gives you a motive to keep playing the game.reminder that LoL players play to unlock shit, not for the fun of the game
>>336643128
LoL has best waifus(as there are like 5 times more females)
DOTA 2 has best husbandos.
>>336643128
LoL has better waifus just by having such a large pool of female characters
DotA has better husbandos
>>336643128
LoL has more in the cute department, dota has more in the bara department.
LoL wins in waifus but who gives a shit about those
>>336636325
Why didn't he just pulse blast cap in the chest again?
Honestly fuck this Iron Man should have killed both of those traitor fucks.
>>336643076
Meepo is the shit the first couple times you play him, but then you realize it's literally the same thing every game and the micro just becomes a chore.
>>336642585
>before this game
>"Our worst pro players can beat your best!"
>after this game
>"literally who??"
>>336643407
>>336643449
Shit this is too real. I fucking hate myself for mainly playing single draft and all random. They show up and make me hate life for the first 10 minutes.Except Visage is a fucking beast and more people should play him just for the early damage.
>>336642627
kek correct though.
>>336643353
>Renekton
hnnng
>>336643353
Nigga LoL is ripe in the bara department.
>>336634981
League is casual shit, DOTA 2 is autistic shit.
They're both shit, but at least you can just jump in and play League.
>>336643097
Why is it that idiots think everyone else is stupid.
Dota is the Melee of mobas
>>336643589
That's Twitch in the image by the way. Riot hated the fact that he was ugly so they changed him just like they butchered all the invis.
Hold up, I didn't create this thread.
>>336643780
It's more like Melee, but with Brawl's random tripping
>>336643671
I'd say you could jump in and play both
but I played WC3 when I was in middle school and thought dota was easy
>>336643703
>get a detailed explanation of what the question's intent was, how you being a different person than the one asked invalidates its purpose, and how you didn't understand what was happening or being asked
>can't come up with a rebuttal, better call just him stupid instead!
Why is it that idiots don't stop posting and humiliating themselves once they realize they were wrong?
>>336643789
What? I only have a lust for renekton I don't even play League myself, I don't consider dota heroes husbando tier.Maybe Elder Titan
>>336639942
and before that while he's zooming around, he takes a tank shot
>>336635843
topkek
>>336643856
and to add
the only thing "hard" is the learning curve of knowing what heroes/champions do what and what items to build. If you're starting out in LoL or DotA and you get in a team fight, you'll have no idea what the hell is going on either way.
>>336643576
He's suffering from a crippling bug, though. Until his familiar summons are patched to allow better and more immediate control after deselecting/resummoning them, he will always be pretty low-tier on people's pick list.
Seriously, he will be great once Icefrog actually pays attention to the bug reports people submit and fixes all the small but noticeable glitches that impact Visage's gameplay.
>>336643856
DOTA 2 has a bit more you have to learn in order to play it.
LoL took me less time to learn between the twoof course, I haven't actually played LoL in years, and I only played DOTA like once.
>>336643449
Why did they nerf Chen anyway?
>>336644067
The image in the post you were replying to was Twitch. I assumed you thought he was renekton since, between meh art and the redesign, I thought you confused him.
>>336643856
All of my friends in a particular group only play LoL and maybe one other game on the side. Its really irritating honestly, how they're amazed that I play "too many games" when I only switch between 3 or 4 at a time. And when I try to introduce them to DotA they have zero fucking understanding of basic mechanic and no patience to actually learn.
>>336644121
A bug? Tell me more since I was considering picking Visage as support again.
>>336644262
Strong in competitive and mostly because of the aghs change made him more useful late game.
The game that has this cute hero!
>>336644528
Ahh I see I'm a filthy scrub who only plays normals. Nobody ever uses Chen.
>>336644408
it's a shitty genre because "the first one you play is the best."
most of my friends started with LoL and they're too invested in their accounts they've spent hours unlocking shit (and some having dropped money on the game) to even consider quitting.
If I had more time I'd play LoL with them, but I barely have time to dota2. Fortunately my friends aren't the type of people that turn every get-together activity into playing LoL and actually enjoy doing other things.
>>336644747
>it's a shitty genre because "the first one you play is the best."
LoL was the first one I played and I think the game is garbage, I only play Dota now.
I know at least a dozen people in the same boat. It doesn't work like you think.
>>336644747
>it's a shitty genre because "the first one you play is the best."
This
>>336644747
>it's a shitty genre because "the first one you play is the best."
I think Smite is the best and it definitely wasn't my first
>>336644827
did you have friends that played dota as well?
I don't think most people would play LoL if it weren't having friends that played it. It's the only reason I'd play it on occasion, and I'm still under level 30 despite my account being made during beta in 2010. That's why Riot has been spamming shit with "earn extra IP if you group queue with friends"
>>336644692
Thats because he takes effort to play
>>336644528
Unless it was literally just patched out:
Whenever you re-summon or deselect his familiars, when you reselect them, there is a delay of a second or two before your commands are taken and followed.
That's part of why Visage feels so sluggish right now: in order to use the birds effectively, you need better micro skills than you normally would need, and even then, there's still the delay--which can ruin you.
Also, there's been reported sporadic issues with his Gravekeeper's Cloak losing multiple stacks to one hit, which is of course quite devastating for a hero so squishy once the cloak is gone.
There's also a number of minor bugs that have been plaguing him for months, small visual glitches and odd, rare interactions. He's honestly in a very weird place right now: if you look at where he's at on paper, he's fucking absurd. Like, outright bonkers for damage and utility. But in practice, all the bullshit that affects him drags him down to B, maybe even C-tier.
And Icefrog doesn;t seem to get that. He keeps giving Visage buffs that look good on paper, but are rendered moot because the bugs remain unpatched, which doesn't fix the underlying reason no one picks Visage: the obnoxious, ever-present bugs and glitches.
>>336636029
....
Yeah that's honestly how it works. If your friends play DOTA, then you're going to play and like DOTA more. Same thing with LoL.
>>336644747
>"the first one you play is the best."
Depends on the person I swap a lot between smite and dota.
>they're too invested in their accounts they've spent hours unlocking shit to even consider quitting.
Disgusting.
>>336645183
That sucks. I thought the new minus armour thing would be great on visage because it builds into medallion but yet still had to pick him once.
>Icefrog doesn;t seem to get that
Still are still many heroes broken bugged or whatsoever but they only get fixed once they are cancer tier. See enchantress for example, her spear animation and other things were completely fucked till she became the cancer of 6.86.
>>336634981
Smite
>>336645003
I started with LoL because of TotalBiscuit covering it. After playing a bit I started to dislike it because of the fact that it got a bit stale and Yogscast bias revealing the shitty community. I quit about mid-season 3 and bounced around all the various mobas until I settled into dota (Battle for Graxia is the most notable one). Now I bounce between SMITE, DotA 2 and Heroes of the Storm depending on what computer i'm playing at (somehow smite runs the best for shittier PCs).
/blogpost
I'll occasionally play LoL when they talk me into it but I get sick of it almost immediately from their incessant bitching that EVERYTHING is OP.
>>336638831
She's not in HotS?
>>336645672
Gameplay wise, smite is objectively better than LoL just due to the added depth from the 3rd person perspective. Lore-wise, having every single character be an actual god is pretty good to but that begs the question, just what are those fucking monsters and minions that they can kill gods so easily?
>>336635947
>try hon for the first time
>the dps is tanky with cc
>>336637394
>Getting rid of the only guy who will ever play Tony Stark perfectly
>Literally the Hugh Jackman of Tony Stark
For what purpose?
>>336644619
Stay hydrated
I want CM to piss on me!
>>336640443
They completely fucking ruined his original design. He used to be a bad ass chinese storm dragon, now he looks like some fucking fetus salamander.
>>336638898
>no turn speed
>ranged carries can right click and move essentially at the same time
>Melee carries are useless
League players will never understand this
i like watching dota more, but i like playing lol more.
ive come to this conclusion after 2k hours in dota. Theres just too much shit to keep track of. At a certain point it feels like work. lol on the other hand i havent played as much but i can play it casually and not give a shit how exactly i play. Just kill things and win.
>>336648943
Legit you should try SMITE. Pretty much LoL from a 3rd person perspective. It takes quite a bit of the stress away where you only think about what's in front of you at some points. Less looking at every corner of the screen to see if someone is sneaking up on you or to target some dude, he's just right in front of you.
LoL is easier since the objectives are more straight forward, heroes fall harder into categories, and items just make your heroes better stat-wise. Plus the innate blink letting you escape most ganks. Nevermind the fucking surrender option.
DotA is more intense in the sense that a certain hero getting a certain item can change the tide of match. Plus more stat manipulation, better comeback factor compared to LoL, and the gameplay is more varied.
Kinda agree with >>336648943
In terms of waifus LoL has more than DotA but many of them are very derivative. DotA has less but they're higher quality.
TL;DR: LoL gameplay is simpler and slower and DotA is more erratic and explosive. It all boil downs to preference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwZngXodEuQ
give my youtube video a look /b/ros
>>336642569
>Bloodrage
>Zeus ultx2
>Nature's wrath x2
>Million greater treants spawn
>Kill opposing base
Dota wins with literally 3 heroes.
