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Being a Str build is fucking suffering in this game and this
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Being a Str build is fucking suffering in this game and this guy made me realize it
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>>336583160
nigger just parry

what the fuck is your problem
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>>336583160
>backstab
>charge R2 as he gets up
He dies in like 3 hits. So hard
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>>336583160
Not really. Souls PvE is easy and can literally be beaten with bare fists.
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>>336583227
I use a big unga bunga club
niggee just backsteps and stunlocks me to death every time
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Just use a straight sword like everyone else lmao
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Why do katanas even exist in this game? All of them are pretty shit. Bad reach, bad weapon arts, inferior damage to curved swords.
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>>336583334
Keep a shield up
Back away, you should be just out of his range
After he does his combo, run in and hit him with your running attack.
Or, roll in to his last attack and hit him that way.
Or backstep dodge his hit and do the backstep in to r1
This guy is a pushover who just looks threatening and is good at baiting with false openings.
You can also just get a stable shield and circle strafe in to backstabs
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>>336583542
Running R1
The R2 is also a stab. better than curved swords in some situations
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>>336583160
Literally just pick the heaviest weapon you have, upgrade it as much as possible with your progress and then press R1 and he dies in 8-10 hits and gets staggered every hit. Strength is PvE easymode all the way through and if your experience is otherwise you're either absolute trash or doing something very very very wrong in which case you're simply stupid. Not even worth a git gud.
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can we all agree this is the most hype fight in the game
Yhorm is second for me only because of Siegward
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>>336583704
Which deals barely any damage and does not combo, and the easiest move in the game to parry
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>>336583160
That guy sucks.

I went underleveled with a Str build and killed him on my second try.

Just have the other guys kill each other and spam R1 on his second form, he has shit poise.
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>>336583160
Are you joking? he's one of the easiest bosses as a str dude
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>>336583160
How come sometimes my character will randomly riposte? Like I won't even have a shield equipped and will be slashing at him and suddenly my character randomly ripostes.

Feels satisfying as fuck so I'd like to know how this happens. I was using a straight sword if that makes any difference.
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>>336583160

back stabs are your friend, anon.
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I just miss ma poise
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>>336583810
>Strength is PvE easymode all the way through
Dex is actually easier this time around. SS class dominates PvE,
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>>336584060
IF you attack at the same time an enemy is attacking and IF you hit him first, interrupting an enemy attack seems to count as riposting them.
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>>336583936
It's pretty easy to bait a parry with it because everyone expects it. If they see a katana guy running at them they're already setting up for a parry. That can be used to your advantage if you think about it
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Who /BeatNewGame+AndNowBored/ here? Honestly thought NG+ was still a thing in DS3 and I'm sad to see that nothing changes between your first and second journeys except getting more powerful rings. Can't even be bothered to do NG++ because I don't care for getting all the endings and I don't wanna drudge through the first 1/3rd of the game that I hate.
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>>336583160
Dude his attacks are telegraph and he doesn't hit that hard. If you somehow manage to fuck up a dodge just put your shield up. You will literally tear through his HP if you upgraded your weapon. I shat on this guy with a Great Machete.
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>>336584240
being able to pait parries is true for any weapon, and it doesn't change the fact that the carthus curved sword outranges, outspeeds and outdamages every single one (except for washing pole in terms of speed but that weapon is also super easy to parry)
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>>336583160
Beat his ass with the cathedral ultra greatsword. Just gotta wait till he's done attacking and hit him with a heavy hit. Rinse repeat. Still was a fun fight though
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>>336583542
I'd argue that katanas are the only weapons with a decent weapon art.
I don't even use katans, I'm a str fag.
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>>336583334

Stop being shit and backstab him, then do charged R2s on his wakeup. Laugh as he dies in 3 goes of this.
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>>336584060
its a guard break if they try to block with no stamina.
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>>336583160
>Use +2 Claymore
>Kill Abyss Watchers in one attempt
>Never needed shield

Well I guess certain bosses fuck up certain people.
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Really? They all have a slow ranged lunge or a parry. Meanwhile many curved swords have crazy spindances that combos from R1 and deals great damage.
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>vit and vig are different stats.
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>>336584487
I 2 hand a great mace and he always gets me in the middle of my attacks
Plus even with how fucking huge this thing is he almost always backsteps away
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>>336584469

>/BeatNewGame+AndNowBored/

How can you post something like that without thinking "Hey, that looks really dumb, I should probably change that."?
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>>336584768
Meant to quote >>336584613
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Stop using UGS and pick up a mace or axe. They are STR weapons with perfectly fast attack speeds.

You turd.
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>>336584816
Try rolling into him. You're guaranteed to hit him if you're right next to him.
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>>336583160
It's funny because I just finished up my strength character and it was the most fun I've had so far next to Dex/luck

The Dragonslayer Greataxe is amazing for both PvE and PvP
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>>336583160
>people struggle with him
>killed him first attempt by just rolling and backing away and timing my attacks
>had 40 str and had completely skipped cathedral by the time I got here

What the fuck are you doing?
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I dont want to use straight sword, but everything else is so shit.

Is there a GS or UGS that has a decent moveset?
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>>336585139
Farron GS has those break dance r1s.
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>This crazy stamina usage on Astora Greatsword
>eats like healf your stamina bar in one swing
>only a few points more in raw damage compared to my Rapier which can endlessy attack at crazy speed
All the big weapons really need is more damage, they're so much worse compared to fast weapons with poise not existing.
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No point using 2H weapons until they fix poise, if they ever will
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>>336585303
>"fixing" things in DS
lol bro ur just not gud enough, git gud faggot
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>>336583160
Let me guess, you try to get 3 hits in when you manage to stagger him with a hit.

Don't be greedy, just hit once then back away. Fight him safe
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>>336585303
who needs poise
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>>336585303
>No point using 2H weapons until they fix poise
Not entirely true, as two-handing big weapons is the only way to actually have poise
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>>336585303
In pvp the black knight weapons are on top right now.
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>>336585107
>having 40 str by level 30ish

What the fuck are you doing?
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>>336585303
Hyper armor works much better. You just have to be smarter about your swings and can't just mash r1

>>336585279
At 40-50 str most if the high end big weapons do plenty of damage. The problem is that some fast weapons, namely straight swords, are just too damn strong
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>>336585413
No most of the time its I get 1 hit and he hits back and spams me till I die
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>>336585416
when hyper armor works just fine
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>>336585107
You probably don't fat roll. I'll guess that OP wears armor beyond 70% his equip load, making him fat roll
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>>336583851
i would even say everything after this boss is shit
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>>336585589
mash that attack button son u did good

dark souls 3 is fucking pathetic
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>>336585416
>>336585589
No one gives a fuck about pvp nigga
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>>336585589
Why does everyone wear that star wars helmet? I noticed it last night when I was sun broing it up too.
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>str build is suffering
Lol wut. Is this your first souls game? I'm also taking it your only at the abyss watchers. The number of really great str weapons obliterates how many great dex weapons that are in DaS2 and DaS3. The first game wasn't as bad but still had more good str based weapons.
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>>336583160
This bitch is easy just bait his attacks and hit him a few times. Keep moving to the left or right in circles around him.
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What is a good early str weapon?
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>>336585746
you get it pretty early and it looks pretty cool
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>>336585746
It's a good helmet for the weight.
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>>336585743
found the casual
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>>336585530
You don't roll away after you hit him once?
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>>336583160

Won the fight on my second attempt using the Zweihander on my Str build - no shield.

Died (at least) 12 times on my second playthough using a straight sword (but still shieldless).

Knowing that straight swords are considered to be OP, I can only conclude that I fucking suck with anything other than strength builds...
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I started the game with a dork sword, then switched to Yhorm's machete and never looked back.

Superheavy weapons are crazy good, Souls games are some kind of DPS race.
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>>336585847
>Keep moving to the left or right in circles around him.

Like in every souls game ever.
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>>336584797
>i want the overpowered bs that was endurance from ds1 back
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>>336584851
Lunge will stagger nearly anybody and its useful for taking out mobs.
Parry has way more active frames than regular parries.


Katanas are great with sharp infusement and some resin, bleed buildup is nice and procs on a surprising amount of enemies.
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>>336585931
High Level
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>>336583160
Best defense for this boss is just straight up playing offensively. Get to phase 2 as fast as you can because it's significantly easier.
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>MUH STRENGTH BUILD
>MUH SHIELD
If you're having trouble with these guys then you're going to get fucked once you get to the dancer
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>>336586076
He actually would have hit the guy if he just did a running R2. Bad gonna bad
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>>336585889

Great Axe, Zweihander and Spiked Mace are all fairly early and decent.
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Is it me or are they old hat? The first time I fought the it took me a while to beat them, I am on my 3 character and I beat the first try with a brigand axe +2.
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>>336586076
>post fights where both players are bad
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>>336586159
I loved the dancer fight, it was one of the few fights in the game where there was no trial and error bullshit to blind side you
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>>336586048
And they're all still outperformed by the best curved weapons. Katana is merely "usable", but only reason to pick them over other weapons is if you really like katanas.
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How bad am I to die to Champion ~7 times?
His second form shoulder bash is fucking fast, like the speed of light. He goes so fast my camera unlocks from him.
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>>336585790
>The number of really great str weapons obliterates how many great dex weapons

yeah, that is why PVP is all about straight sword and rapiers? There are some special snowflakes like the BKGA but overall you can just stagger any UGS/UGA to death

inb4
>dude just parry lmao
applies just as much to dex as str
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How can I make caestus not suck?

Trying to do a Kyo build with Sacred Flame to pick up the stuff I missed in my first playthrough but caestus is straight ass.
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>>336586514
The Champ is one of the "harder" fights anon. Don't worry about it
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>>336586159
Died like 8 times to Abyss Watchers as a strength build yet only 1 time to Dancer. Dancer is a joke, as are the majority of DaS3 bosses.
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>>336586551
>stunlock ugs/uga

no you're just a scrub who dont know how to hyper armor

and parry is a non issue for ultra weapons due to many of their moves being in the no parry zone
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>>336586675
You make it not suck by playing Dark Souls 2 ;)
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>>336583160
>str build
>suffering
>dark sword
>yhorm's great machete
>most straight swords
>black knight greataxe
>gundyr's halberd

No faggit
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>>336583160
shit bait. you're just trash at the game and should probably trade it in at your local game store for super mario bros.
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>>336586814
dork sword nerf when?
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>>336586675
you want an effective cestus build? learn to preserverence and use the heaviest armor
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>>336585689
I really liked the Dancer fight. Nameless King and Soul of Cinder were pretty hype too. Oceiros was fun but felt like he was ripped straight from BB. Yhorm was disappointing as fuck for me personally because of that badass opening cutscene then a fucking gimmick fight. Aldrich and Pontiff were great. Princes were fun too but I feel like all the ones just mentioned before them were better fights. Dragonslayer was pretty cool too but lost a lot of excitement cause someone spoiled it for me and told me he was the boss there.

Deacons of the Deep and Crystal Sage were the only ones I would say were truly shit with Vordt not far behind.
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>>336586869
A bunch of tests some anon made show that perseverance is just stomp but worse in every way.
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>>336586869
I've got the hang of it but tanking huge hits (at reduced damage but still) for piddly L1s is kind of annoying. Should I just pump vit? I dont care at PvP at all btw.
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>red hilted halberd has perseverance
is this weapon as good as i think it is?
good range and you can screw over people who try to spam on you
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>put my sign down for old demon king
>9/10 hosts haven't turned off the ballista and get twatted going up the stairs
>9/10 hosts get obliterated by the ODK
Fucking hell.
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>>336587015
which test?


mind you Preseverance also reduces damage
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>>336587126
You can turn off the ballista?
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>>336584158
Except enemies actually have poise which means most can hit back vs smaller weapons where as large strength weapons stunlocks them to death.
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>>336586551
I actually prefer dex myself but I'm just calling it like I see it. There are more good str weapons than dex weapons in these games. I wasn't saying they are better just that they are more numerous. You get much more variety to work with on a str build.
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>>336587325
Not to mention bosses get staggered like mad by heavy weapons. I brought Nameless King to his knees in 4 hits, can estocfags say the same?
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>>336586854
>literally the only way to olay the game is to be a twink build with a straight sword
>hehe just git gud kiddo
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>>336587126
>Spend hours in 100x gravity until I can handle the champ
>Put sign down
>Gang bang of 4 phantoms raping the Champ as though he was not tougher than Iudex

I honestly felt bad, like I was ruining a good experience for another player
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>Be STR build
>kill second Watcher in 3 hits because of low health
>gank the main Watcher with the Abyss controlled one

?????????????
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>>336587542
What's the difference other than slight DoF?
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>str builds
>shields

fucking casuals
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>>336587542
>put sign down for abyss watcher's
>just chain backstab him to death
>the host didn't even try to fight him solo before summoning

Man
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>>336585889
Greataxe works fine

It'll get you used to moveset for when you switch over the Dragonslayer Greataxe because its so good. Yhorms Machete is good too
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>>336587298
Yes. You have to go through the Demon Ruins
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>>336586960
it's entirely possible to fight Yhorm without the gimmick, i got him to about a quarter of his health my first time because i didn't know about it
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>>336587758
Greataxe has a nice surprising moveset on warcry too. Yhorm's warcry is a bit shite in comparison.
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>>336585889
Butcher's Knife.
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>>336583160
>parry
>critical takes off a huge chunk of his HP
>parry
>critical takes off a huge chunk of his HP
>parry
>critical kills

>roll twice during his attacks
>rolling R1

>two-hand
>L2
>charged R2

All of those work. You're just bad.
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>>336586239
Is this an example of a good player? I fail to see how is it better than the webm above.
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I beat them with a Greatsword. They have fuckall health and defense, and if you're not fatrolling you can get behind them for constant backstabs. No kidding, one of the easiest bosses in the game, I had more trouble with Greatwood and Sage.
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>>336587542
Summoning truly ruins the experience. I refuse to summon for my first play through. ODK is a really cool fight too.
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>Monkey man stabs me in the back as I enter through the fog
>Abyss watcher slides into me and finishes me off as im stunned
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Not trying to brag, but was the consumed king as easy for everyone else as it was for me?
I beat him in two ngs and ng+ without taking more than 3 hits.
Yhorm gave me more trouble and he's a gimmick fight.
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>>336586814
>>336586864
>muh 30 more AR tradeoff for a shitty moveset
Dark Sword is shit.
SHIT.
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>>336583542
>equip washing pole
>running R1
>never die

If the opponent is smart and tries to parry, fucking kick them and hit R1 twice. If they stay close and try to stop the running R1, parry them. I stand by my point of the only PvP weapons that take skill being the Halberds.
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>>336587298
Yeah. Kinda pointless imo since you need it to kill the worm and can just dodge the shots and fight the boss, but I did it for the sake of completion.
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>People play the minigame that is PvP more than they play the actual game itself
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>>336587298
>>336587126
>never met the giant archer in my first playthrough, but saw him from a distance in Settlement
>mfw I get to Smouldering Lake and think he's so good that he's shooting underground now
I hated giantbro and I feel bad now.
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>>336586076
I love how insanely generous the i-frames and stamina cost of rolling in 3 is
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>>336587835
Yeah, it's decent in PvP to catch rolls into you or to your side but it's largely useless for PvE. It looks cool to two hand the machete at least

The regular swings do so much damage it doesn't matter too much though
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I like bosses like this because it makes you have to learn how to roll instead of just tanking shit with your shield.

The Dancer is a roll or die fight.
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>>336588207
Because playing against actual human beings is more interactive than fighting the same AI bosses over and over again? Don't be retarded.
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>>336588207
Souls would have died at Demons if it were not for the invasions and co op
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>>336583160
I ran with a strength build and slapped his shit with the great machete. Next you're going to say Wolnir is impossible.
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>>336588142
The best thing to do against someone who tries to parry the running attack is to act like you're going to do it and then run around behind them and backstab them

It's ridiculously effective because the parry locks them in place
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>>336585496
I'm building a paladin and faith is pointless to level until you get better spells. I did a fuckload of damage to everything. Fuck off faggot.
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>>336583160
You should try a pure faith build if you want to know true hell.

Lightning weapons only available after Pontiff and blessed weapons suck
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>>336587325
There are few enemies in the game which have poise. You can stunlock nearly everything with 1-2 hits from a SS.
>>336587451
Most late game bosses have a stagger breakpoint, i staggered him multiple times with my demon fists, and i staggered him 3x on my sl1 with ss r1 spam.
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>>336586076
>that roll r1
Sweet jesus it's just like the Greataxe in Demon's Souls.
Looks like it doesn't have the phantom range though. Sadly.
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>>336588334
I want to FUCK this god of death.
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>play at SL 80
>nothing but quality builds
>play at SL 100
>nothing but quality builds
>play at SL 120
>nothing but quality builds
>play at SL 150
>nothing but quality builds
You'd think by the time you hit 150 you'd see some hybrid builds, since at that level you can actually afford to invest in magic without it being a complete joke, but it's STILL nothing but estoc/dark sword R1R1R1R1R1R1 and parry fishing, jesus christ. I can't tell if quality builds are way too fucking good, or if magic and split damage is just that bad.

Maybe a bit of column A, maybe a bit of column B, but jesus christ From FIX MAGIC YOU LAZY NIGGERS.
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>>336588558
Then you'd die.
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>>336587119
Any weapon can have perserverence if you off-hand ceastus.
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>>336588646
40 and 80 are the sweet spots respectively. Anything beyond that isn't real pvp
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>>336583160
Being Str literally makes the game easier, since you can use greatshield which make most bossfights way easiers. As for the weapons, just infuse Dex weapons with refined or heavy gems. You'll end up with a strength build that uses dex weapons.

Dex can't do the opposte to weild greatshields. There is nothing wrong with your build.
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>>336583334
>not going for backstabs
>not using R2
>not memorizing his 3 attacks that he does
This guy is fucking easy, and all his weakpoints/safe spots are literally behind him. You are suppose to backstab to stunlock his ass, if the fight lasts more than 5 minutes, stop playing.
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>>336588646
>dark sword is the best
>quality is the best
Good goyim.
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>>336588646
Quality builds are popular because you can pretty much use any weapon that doesn't have faith/int requirements.
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>>336585631
Fuck no. I've been in default knight armor from the beginning cause I can't find an armor combo i like.
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>>336588752
>40 and 80
>sweet spots
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>>336588057

I thought the Consumed King was surprisingly easy. He died before I knew it the first time. He's pretty easy too dodge.
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>>336585931
>found the casual
PvP hasnt changed, its still roll till you can backstab.
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>>336588338
>>336588334

Final Fantasy would have died D I E D without the card game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kWjJwbDF4g

>Minigame fags being this deluded
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>>336588873
Going quality at 40/80 is far less efficient than going quality at the 120-150 mark.
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heavy weapons need a damage buff, prove me wrong
you can't
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>>336583160
Are there any good DEX/INT weapons?
I'm bored as fuck using the Estoc.
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>>336588936
Not really, backstabs aren't as easy to get as they were in DaS. It's more fish for parries until you can blow them up with a riposte boosted by hornet ring.
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>>336586742
Whats hyper armor?
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>>336589039
Why, Sage's Rapier of coursh!
Just infuse your weapon of choice with crystal or raw+CMW.
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>>336588873
Thats the best spot for invasions. You frankly don't get invasions too far past the 80 bracket. You just get try hard duelists waiting around to be invaded.

More over, the lower the level, the higher the build diversity
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>>336585589
What sword is that?
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>>336588207
Found the Dragonslayer
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>>336588965
>You will never get raped this hard by a red phantom
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>>336588965
I hate you.
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>>336588646

I use a split dex/int build with a crystal katana for maximum weeb, but the split damage is rarely better than straight physical. Magic is also super weak sub 50, save for Soul and Dark Greatswords. Sometimes you can catch someone off guard in pvp since quality builds don't often have good magic def.
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>>336583160
>str is suffering

Once you get a plus 10/plus 5 anything not really. Being able to trade with bosses for 450-600dmg is extremely viable.
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>>336584158
>darksouls 2
>choose merchant
>dagger is fucking garbage
>breaks before the first boss
>has trouble killing regular tutorial area monsters

>darksouls 3
>start as a thief
>dagger is balls to the wall nonstop staggers
>rapes the first boss with its bleed effect

holy shit dex is so op in this game
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>>336588996
Quality at 40 is pretty tough, but EVERYTHING is tough to make at 40. I don't like the SL 80 meta because it's way too fucking restrictive. In Dark Souls it was 120 because it allowed you to hit all of your neutral softcaps and have enough left over to cap out 2 damage stats (str+fai, dex+int, dex+str, etc.), which I personally thought was the best approach. 80 in Dark Souls 3, what with it having more stats and a few of those stats requiring much more investment, really cuts down on the number of things you can really do. Especially considering how many horsecocks magic in general sucks right now.

>>336589257
>You frankly don't get invasions too far past the 80 bracket
>More over, the lower the level, the higher the build diversity
Both of these have been the exact opposite of my experience. I've gotten near constant invasions at 150, and can invade someone within 10 seconds usually. The biggest problem is gank squads, but that's the case at any level. And in the case of build diversity, while being purely anecdotal, this has DEFINITELY not been the case. It has been consistently the same shit across all of my playtime, at almost every single breakpoint. The only difference is how big the numbers are.

Settling on a definitive meta right now either way is stupid because the game is unpatched and horribly unbalanced right now, but I sincerely doubt it's going to be in the pits of double digit soul levels when it is established.
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>>336589375

>People think the outcomes of their minigame are worth an emotional response

Minigame fags out.
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>>336589492
I wish knives were viable. That dodge is goat.
But the damage and range just isn't there and they become useless too early.
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>>336584738
>Well I guess certain bosses fuck up certain people.

because the bosses all have different defense specializations. some take more damage from striking, others from thrusting, others from slashing, or bleed/fire/dark/ect.
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>>336589609
You wouldn't be protesting this hard unless you had an emotional response to getting your tits rocked.
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>>336589492
>Doing PVP
>Str build with Yhorms
>Do around 400-500 a swing to most people with 50 str
>Faggot dex weapons have everything besides hyper armor and almost the same damage
>Can stunlock you with better speed and movesets.

Why are they allowed to hit me for around 350-400 a hit but i only do alittle bit more damage and if both me and them are competent i won't get to double hit them alot and we will trade before hyper armor?

Warden twinblades seem like the most face smash retard weapon i've ever seen in Souls pvp
>Dodge around
>Get a hit and try to combo/stun lock
>If successful around 1/2 life plus bleed which brings things up to around 2/3rds of most peoples life bars at around level 100
>Requires little stamina so even after a 3 hit combo can move back in especially on heavy users.

Complete and utter faggotry.
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>>336589891

What is playing online or offline as you want.
No one cares if they die to an invasion, there's an option to not get invaded at all if you don't want to partake in the minigame in the first place.

>Minigame fags on suicide watch
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I'm SL 43 with 40 STR, 17 DEX, and 16 Endurance.

Is there any cool builds I can transition to, or is it too late?
I'm talking like Faith/Magic/Pyro/Str hybrid or something.
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>>336587126
>first found smoldering lake
>ran straight past that fucking worm and into old demon king
>killed it, went into izaloleft
>came out of izaleft, back in smoldering lake... w/e, march up a hill and turn off balistia


not a single fuck was given that day.
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>>336590183
You can respec in this one, 5 times per playthrough, resetting with every NG+. It's from a covenant you reach about a quarter way in.
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I wreck everything with my refined astora greatsword. Git gud seriously
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>>336590402
Holy shit! Thanks I had no idea.

Think I'm gonna try to make a magick archer or some shit.
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>>336590183
25int 25fth 30str and you'll be doing 700 a swing with demon great axe + fire clutch ring
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>>336588965
why the shit do you think they add gimmicks to jrpgs like card games? Its to get you to keep playing and talking about it long after you finished walking down that 72 hour long hallway of cutscenes and scripted events.

pvp in souls games is what gets people talking to other people about souls games, its what makes a single player game into a multi-player community based sensation. if there wasnt pvp, at best souls would be a niche game with some monster-waifu fags that barely gets talked about. But with multiplayer, all of a sudden people give a shit about builds, fashion, and that gets them talking about lore and story and sharing their experiences which makes the game last longer. the message system is genious, it lets player communicate without the devs ha ving to waste time trying to balance both a single and multiplayer game while still making players feel like they are playing with other people when they really arent. co-op gives baddies just enough crutch to get them through the bosses but not enough crutch to do the whole game for them because it gets interrupted by pvp if they try.
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>>336583160
> people actually find abyss watchers hard
Jesus faking Christ, they have no HP or poise at all, just whack away and dodge
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>>336584469
Is that some new fucking blini?
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>>336590935
On NG it's easy with a heavier weapon because you can trade blows, which is pretty much a staple for every slow weapon because they decided bloodborn enemies and souls combat made for a good mix. Unfortunately, by the time you hit NG++ slow weapons aren't remotely viable anymore, because most enemies, including even shit-tier hollows will hit you for a fuckton of health.
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>>336590905
>minigame nerds thinking they're this important
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>>336583160
>str build
>can't time hits
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>>336589967
Funny because I'm wrecking people with my strength build in PvP

You just have to know how to trade properly and how important spacing is
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>>336591232
Stop that you nerd.
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>>336591290
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>over commit enchanting the drake sword (deep battle axe)
>doing shit damage to everything but cant upgrade anything else
>having trouble with basic monsters by the time i get to boreal valley
>start cheesing everything with spook and hide

its so lame but it feels so good
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>>336591232
the fuck is your problem?
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>>336591448
Irithyll is the Souls incarnation of a stealth sequence. Almost all the enemies patrol and there are plenty of corners to hide behind. You can go the entire level all the way up to the fog without fighting anything except for a few of those invisible guys.
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>playing a strength build with a heavy zwei
>get to abyss watchers, die 2-3 times before winning
>go to do some jolly cooperation afterwards
>mfw I kept launching and pancaking the boss whenever he looked at the host
The zweihander weapon skill feels so good.
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>>336590935
different people found different bosses hard. That one that gave you trouble? someone did it on their first try. It just comes down to respective playstyles. Stop trying to act hardcore because you easily countered a boss with your playstyle.
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>>336591876
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>>336591685
>parrying the soul spear
>not just walking two inches to the left
jesus fuck magic is pathetic this go around.
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>>336586742
Looks like you are the one dueling awful people if they run straight into your heavily projected attacks
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>>336591685
>TFW Steam wont let you message people unless they are on your friends list
>You will never be able to shit talk people after a game like this
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>>336591685
>Make 90% of magic shitty projectiles
>Make magic blocking shield
>Make magic shit until the 60% mark
>SL 60-80 melee has twice your health/end and a way more reliable damage output

From are masterful at balance.
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>>336583160
Nah, dude.
Dex is suffering.
At least you get DPS
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>>336583160
>STR
>Bad

Pick one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diYRsPEVNQU
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>>336592004
Time to lose the trip
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>>336586675
Don't use caestus, use pyromancy flame and Bodega away.
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>>336583160
>Charge Greatsword 2hR2
>Goes flying with 1/4 of his health gone
>lock him into knockdowns until I will
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Can someone suggest a weapon that Pyro's use speccing the minimum requirements only on STR/DEX and then going 40INT/40FTH?

I plan on using the Witch's Lock. Just need another weapon for close range that scales more with INT/FTH.
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>>336592101
>Strength
>DPS
>Dex
>suffering
Yeah I know, it must be so tough being able to safely exploit most openings in bosses without losing half your health on retaliation.
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>>336583160
you mean Ultra weapon no shield STR? Yeah its a point in the ass in this game
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>>336592234
>proceeds to post magic shit
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>>336592303
Is the witch's lock even good? I was under the impression whips were a bad joke already, never mind a split damage whip.
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>want to use BKGA since I've used it for the other two DS games
>It weighs 19 fucking kg
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>>336588176
>need it to kill the worm
Never managed to use the ballista against the worm. I just stood behind it and went to hit it when it stopped.
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>>336592235
>>336592235
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>>336592405
It's the only whip that's good. The WA for it is balls retarded.
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>>336592405
Are whips good in DaS2 by the way? I wanted to do one seeing as in 3 the whip is super early but everyone seems to hate it.
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>>336592426
And a half, doesn't it?
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>>336592303
Since I started Pyromancer, I decided to minmax and continue to crank STR until I was able to use the Demon Axe at least 2handed. It's a pretty damn good weapon, but it meshed a bit too poorly with my caster at first.
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>>336588391
I've never even thought about doing that. Fuck.
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>>336592235
>>336592235
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>>336592426
Wasn't exactly featherweight before either. Shit's got mammoth stat requirements besides even the str and dex given it's stamina usage and weight. But holy shit does it hit like a truck.
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>>336592428
There's a small hill that lets you take cover while the ballista tries to shot at you through the worm.
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Man, DS3 is really losing it's lustre to me.
Since I was doing co-op with a friend for the first playthrough, I got to kill Soul of Cinder with him, and that stupid latency bug made it trivial.

I went ahead and tried to solo him yesterday, god, what a stupid fucking fight, Spear + Miracle phase and Gwyn's phase 5 hit combo suck dick, and I now have no qualms with just summoning phantoms for whatever.

NOT FUCKING EVERYTHING NEEDS 2 FUCKING PHASES, BLOODSOULS
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>>336592656
What a pussy
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What the fuck?
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>>336592094
I'm glad that magic is shit now after it was "lol I one-shot everything" for two games
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nigga wat,fume +5 ,str 50+ means you basically break the game.
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>>336593036
Apparently they nerfed the FUGS so I don't know
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>>336593109
Done with dumping.

>>336593089
It's still top tier even after nerf.
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I wish that the game didn't get "harder" each time you went to NG+. I made the PERFECT character and I just want to play the game to NG++++++++++++ on him.

I just want to stay at level 120, boot up the game and be like, "Welp, let's beat Dark Souls 3 AGAIN" and beat the game in 5 hours as the same character. Because the enemies numbers raise up by a percent every NG, eventually, even if I got to level 99 in every stat, I still wouldn't have a chance and killing even common enemies would be a grind.
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>>336593216
Can't you just make a save and then reload it after you beat it.
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>>336592236
I got one in offhand but I need something that doesnt run on FP.
Planning to grab Sacred Flame but right now all I got is great combustion for BODEGA.
Gonna upgrade to dragon fist once I get there.
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>>336593089
finished the game before 1.04, i ll test it again in ng+.

i only knew that 1.04 nerfed the Darksword desu
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>>336593318
I guess, but I would still like to make progress, get souls, keep titanite shards each time I go to a new game.
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>>336592860
>NOT FUCKING EVERYTHING NEEDS 2 FUCKING PHASES, BLOODSOULS
Why not? It's the last boss.
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>>336583160
yeah get good senpai

you stagger the shit out of him with a str build
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>>336589279

looks like astora greatsword
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>>336593352
>i only knew that 1.04 nerfed the Darksword desu
it didn't touch the dark sword. FUGS went from 700-something AR to like 550. It's actually weaker than most other big strength weapons at 40
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>>336587835

yhorms has dat reach though, hits like a truck too. At 60 stength im regularly bonking enemies for 700-900 damage without criticals
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>>336592982
>Angry melee fag that couldn't dodge spells in pvp in DaS1&2
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>>336592982
Magic is actually not shit in Ds3, its just not as hilariously broken as it was in older games and magic shitters cant adapt
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should i stay at 25 for my low level pvp toon or should i just bring it up to 40
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>the true face of cancer.
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>>336592860
Soul of Cinder was far far far too easy.. After beating all the other shit in the game you shouldn't be losing to that. I get a few deaths as you learn but.. Everything about that fight was fair and really too easy for an end fight.

Not sure if I'm just good at the game now, or people are just bad.. But I always thought people who are nerdy enough to be browsing 4chan wouldn't be terrible at video games.
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>>336585139

I like the claymore moveset, but bigger greatswords feel a little too clunky and dont have enough damage potential to compensate. So switched to a great machete and loved it. Eventually replaced it with Yhorm's and been rolling with that ever since.
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>>336594121
>Magic is actually not shit in Ds3
>need to devote 3/4 of your ring slots just to buff damage
>sorcerers need to give up their head slot and their off-hand slot needs a candlestick when casting
>need 60 points in their casting stat, and a minimum of 24 attunement
>every usable spell eats more stamina than an UGS
>every usable spell can be dodged by unaware hollows shambling to the left
>does as much damage as pressing R1 three times with a straight sword
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is great mace viable in this game at all?
It whacks away more than 1/4th of the abyss watchers health but its too fucking slow and they always fuck me up in fire sword mode
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>>336594246
You probably are just used to what the souls series will put you through.

Kind of felt this way after I breezed through pontiff and champion gundyr despite everyone claim them to "omg impossibru"
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>>336593208
>Deacons of the deep circle around a cube
>enemies Allahu akbar you with fire swords
>endgame is a mosque

was Dark Souls Islamic the whole time?
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105 a good stopping point? I like to co-op and get invaded.
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>>336583160
>boss can be staggered, parried, and backstabbed
>still have trouble
nigga he's hard but only if you ignore all of these
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>>336594753
The universe is being culturally enriched after the loss of Gwyn (pbuh).
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>>336583160
I steamrolled his ass with a UGS. Git gud.
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>>336594895
cant do any of that shit with a 2h great weapon
all you can do is charge up an r2 and hes too fast for that
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>3 games to take insight and knowledge from
>still can't get it right
They fixed STR in BB FFS why didn't they bring over that improvement instead of stealing the MLGS attack animations and slowing it down.
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>>336593821
>spamable spells that one-shot everything short of a boss
>It's balanced guys just git gud and learn to dodge through my shoddy connection
Eat shit magicfag, I hope your kind stays in the shit tier for ever
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>>336594895
Yeah I was struggling on him with executioner's sword and after four or five deaths my friend said he's really easily staggered. I was like lol yeah right I tried that but it turns out I didn't really try it and beat him first try after that. There are way worse fights for slow str builds.
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