Is the game really that bad? I bought a ps4 a few days ago to play Witcher 3 & FO4
>>336479909
It's pretty terrible. They somehow made it worse than Fallout 3.
Played 10 hours of it, couldn't stomach anymore
Sorry anon
>>336479909
Yeah it's bad.Treat it like a shooter instead of a RPG and you might find it fun.
>>336480029
>>336480208
OK, well that sort of sucks. Without spoiling anything, what made it so bad compared to previous games in the series?
Its terrible if you consider yourself a Fallout fan in the slightest.
No prior experience you'll probably love it.
>>336479909
It's okay if you don't expect an engaging roleplaying experience.
>>336480306
The quests.
Dear lord all mighty, The fucking pointless stupid fucking 'quests.'
>>336480306
Terrible dialogue
Terrible quests
Terrible companions
Terrible main story
Complete lack of choice in character aside from being a dick
>>336480029
>>336480208
>>336480278
>>336480342
>>336480363
These are comments from people who jerk off to anime games and play railroaded shack simulators like New Vegas. Fallout 4 is 20 times better than New Vegas, no fags (Arcade, Veronica) either.
>>336479909
its a pile of shit bro the gameplay sucks its ugly and reuses shit from failout 3. the story is awful the npcs sound like they are all on drugs.
really just see if you can get your money back
>>336479909
This board exaggerates just how bad this game is. You should NEVER base your opinion on what /v/ says. Remember that this is the same board that thinks Neptunia is a good series, and Minecraft is bad because it's too popular.
>>336479909
I have 6 days of playtime, I had fun with it. Come to think of it, I didn't even finish the main story line.
![I_4714f0_785488[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/u92GYJX.jpg "I_4714f0_785488[1].jpg")
>>336480510
>>336480531
Maybe I'm too old for this board.
I don't understand the point of shitposting like this anymore.
>>336480510
Id rather be slightly rail roaded and have multiple choices than play whatever Bethesda shat out
Dialogue boils down to:
>Nice response, proceed to accept quest, get treated like hero
>Neutral response, proceed to accept quest, get treated like hero
>Asshole response, get half-hearted response that doesn't affect anything at all, proceed to accept quest, get treated like hero
Combat is only better in that it feels more fluid, but the guns themselves have no punch and response. Sound effects are bad.
>>336480510
I don't do either of those things anon
I payed full price day one for it and just didn't like it
>>336480764
What's the lore like? Is it any good?
>>336480848
>payed
opinion disregarded
>>336479909
It's not like the worst shit ever. The main problem you have is that you're on a console so you won't be able to improve it with mods (which is desperately needs). It's also a pretty weak entry to the series, but if you're just a casual FO fan you might not really care. It's a decent time waster at any rate, you're just not going to be blown away by the story or dialogue.
At any rate you have the Witcher 3 which is a must better game all around so be happy about that.
>>336479909
Its fine, its just way worse in terms of story and atmosphere than the previous game.
In terms of gameplay and over all scope it is of course an improvement and with console mods on the horizon it'll be pretty interesting.
>>336480898
What lore?
>>336479909
I mostly quit because the leveling experience was so incredibly unrewarding. The switch to pure perks was a huge mistake.
Also, the act of leveling usually means doing the same fucking repeatable quests ad infinitum, which is boring as everloving shit.
>>336480306
Complete removal of most RPG mechanics. Dialogue is fucking awful, quests are repetive, all freedom removed from levelling up, by the end of the game you are a flawless god
>>336480898
Not entirely sure. I didn't mention the story because I'm not really familiar with Fallout lore, but from what I played there only are a few things here and there that feel like they add life to the world. Everything else feels like it exists to guide you to the next main objective.
>>336480628
>this is the same board that thinks Neptunia is a good series,
Only the handful of nepfags here are this delusional
>>336479909
honestly its ok for a little while. I thought it was ok for a few days. Then I got really sick of it and to the point where I never wanted to play it again.
>>336479909
I knew something was wrong with the game within the first hour, just in the way it's introduced. I was asking myself all sorts of questions.
1) How are you on the list to get in the vault if the guy hasn't even handed in the paper work yet?
2) Why is the shelter about 25 meters from your home but it's the first you've heard about it?
3)Why do I hear 'War Never Changes' about 5 times in the first five minutes of the game? All you're doing is telling me you aren't aware of what it means, and are milking it for nostalgia
4)Why did you shoot my wife if you have a motherhood complex and put mothers on pedestals?
5)If they took my kid on the assumption they want pre-war DNA for experiments, why turn off all the life pods except mine, the one guy who would want revenge?
6)Why is my Robot still chilling in front of my home for 210 years? How has no one taken him or scrapped him?
7) Why is there a giant Cryo-gun locked up in the vault with me?
8) Why turn skills into perks?
9) Why make SPECIAL utterly useless?
10) Why are my only dialogue options yes/yes/sarcastic yes/no (i will say yes anyways)
11) Why have I been given late game armor, later game weaponry, and fighting a late/end game enemy within the first 30 minutes of the game?
12) Why are there only 2 towns on the map, and they're both within a 3 minute walk from each other?
13)Why can't I join the raiders? Why can't I be a bad guy? Why is it that, even when I try and behave like a dick, my character always apologizes and does good stuff instead?
14) How is it that you can add 'hundreds' of weapon mods, but 95% of them are utterly useless?
15)Why does the weapon pool feel smaller than Fallout New Vegas? or 3 for that matter?
16)Why are there Rad Scorpions on the east coast? Why are Deathclaws on the east coast? Why can't they take the opportunity to make new and interested mutated enemies for us to fight?
17)Why is it the enemies seem to be the only thing related whatsoever to Fallout in the entire game?
>>336479909
>I bought a ps4 a few days ago
You picked a bad time, anon. You should have waited for the PS4 version 2
>>336481461
Yeah, shit. Are games gonna stop being made for the ps4?
>>336481652
No. Unless you want UHD movies PS4K is pointless.
>>336481652
According to Sony, from what little we've heard, it will not effect current games and future games will still be playable on regular PS4s.
Worse case scenario, new games will have 4K as an option.
>>336481448
18) It's been 210 years. Why is literally nothing whatsoever cleaned up, re-used, or recycled into something else?
19) Why the fuck are we still using bottle caps? Who backs the bottle caps? I can get a mobile beer-factory to walk around with me, who has unlimited caps- why am I not rich?
20) What's the point in building walls and defenses if they are never, ever, ever utilized to fend off attacks unless you are physically in the area to watch it happen?
21) If Vault-Tec had perfected cryogenics, why did the cryogenic chamber housing reserve-military units in Fallout 2 fail and turn anyone resuscitated into a pile of goo? Not even a little joke to explain it?
22) Why does it feel, sound, and look as if not a single person who worked on Fallout 4 played ANY previous Fallout game, including 3 and New Vegas?
23) Why is it every place I come across feels like a disconnected theme-park that is not in relation to anything else around it, before it, or after it. It's like I am walking through a theme-park where the only theme is that nothing has a cohesive theme. At all.
24) Because skills are so easy to get, and you can be a master locksmith in under an hour, why is there never, ever, ever, ever, EVER, a good unique item or small cache of treasure behind ANY master-strength lock?
25) Why am I going into 210 year old, never-once-explored pre-war facilities, and finding pipe pistols and Jet?
This entire game is just fucking horrible and it really seems to me like Bethesda created this game to insult anyone over the age of 21.
>>336481731
>>336481797
Enjoy your silky smooth 24fps while the new ps4 runs the same game at a stable 60fps
>>336482014
Enjoy spending even more money!
>>336481017
Mods are on the console version, it's the whole reason they delayed mod tools, they have a platform so all pc mods are compatible with the ps4 and xbox one version you can access through the main menu.
Also OP it's just simply way too bland and easy. It's visually impressive with a great world and good design detail but it's so bland, from the poor quests to the repetitive gameplay compared to the predecessors.
>>336481972
23 was my biggest issue with the game didn't feel like a world at all
>>336480628
>Remember that this is the same board that thinks Neptunia is a good series, and Minecraft is bad because it's too popular.
Thats not fucking wrong.
At least Neptunia is a coherent game and not a fucking mess of multiple incomplete game mechanics
You could have said this board thinks CS:GO is bad but CoD is good and that would have been 100x fucking better
>>336480306
The removal of a proper dialogue system really drags most of the conversations down.
You at times have no idea how your character responds when picking an answer from the menu. He says something completely different to what you would expect him to say.
Also, the answers you can pick sometimes are things like:
-Yes
-Yes (sarcastic)
-Tell me more about things I don't care
-No (but actually yes)
Also, during the main story quests, the game forces you to do things you may not actually want to do, like, "Go to that other faction's hideout and murder everyone there, because reasons!" with no way of talking you out of that situation.
I was never too fond of FO3, more with New Vegas where the Skills and Perks you had actually had an effect on the quests and dialogue choices. FO4 is horrendously neutered in that regard. Even FO3 did this better.
>>336480510
>hurr durr gay people suck!
Thats funny, I didn't know Bethesdrones were also /pol/fags
>>336479909
If you're a faggot loser who has never played Fallout 1, 2, and you think Skyrim/Fallout 3 are the best games ever made you'll most likely love it.
But truthfully, if that's the case you should kill yourself, because you're literally everything that's wrong with gaming .
imagine the worst parts of new vegas, that's the fact that the non-narrative stuff is pretty bland looking
now imagine the worst parts of fallout 3, which is the stupid, nonsensical quests that are obviously designed around some gimmick idea
now imagine the worst parts of skyrim, which is endless repetition in loot and dungeons
combine all 3, and you have fallout 4
>>336480510
>no fags (Arcade, Veronica) either.
You have the option as Nate to fuck every dude you run around with
I would've thought that makes them literally fags
>>336479909
>>336482216
Neptunia is garbage made by a company known in Japan for releasing kusoge. If you can tolerate those awful games because you find the anime girls endearing, good for you, but I'll call them what they are. Feel free to reply with another anime reaction image, since that's the only defense you have.
I enjoyed it. People are just buttmadd its not New Vegas HD edition
>>336480898
The lore is interesting. I wouldn't call it good exactly. There were a few moments that had promise, but I think overall people have the expectation (justifiably so) that the game is going to far surpass it's predecessors in every single way. It doesn't. They added a love-it-or-hate-it settlement building feature, dramatically improved Power Armor but made it so that you rely on it completely by the end of the game (or opt for a shitty OP stealth build), the dialogue wheel is objectively shit, and the story doesn't feel in any way at all like an RPG. The game tells you who your character is and you've got a few token choices that lead to kinda bland outcomes.
I liked it for what it is, but I never lost interest in a Bethesda game so fast as with this. And again, I think that's partially because of unrealistic expectations--I modded Oblivion, Skyrim, FO3 and NV to hell, so I tuned those games how I wanted them to be. So yeah I've got a little buyers remorse with FO4, not because it's a shitty game, but because I didn't wait a year or two for the awesome mods to come out.
From what I hear though they just released a FO4 Toolkit (or rather, the beta) so stuff is coming out, and they've had mods since the first week, but it's mostly just aesthetic or tuning.
I made it to 40 hours, and quit a few lame missions after the BIG EPIC TWIST LEL
It was hard to make it as far as I did, I was unhappy the entire time. There were a few neat side stories you can put together, but it's very lackluster.
What was the password to the super secret underground railroad slave trade thing?
Oh right, railroad. That wouldn't even pass for a facebook password these days.
>>336482109
I was smart enough to wait for the 'Slim' model, and it's paid off.
>>336479909
>playing Witcher or F4 on console
You deserve all the suffering you'll get.
>>336480723
>>336480848
>>336482315
>>336482449
>>336480510
Here's a picture of me btw
>>336480628
Fuck off Todd, your game is shit. 99% of quests involve running to point A to shoot X amount of enemies. In fact, I'll just post a review that indicates everything wrong with this game.
http://www.rpgcodex.net/article.php?id=10267
>>336479909
My friends and I got about 20+ hour in but never beat it. People on this board may have you believe that it's a good game, but it's not
>They took the time to write out dozens of terminal updates at Raider Camps to show there are unique Raider-leader personalities and grudges
>You can never once speak to raiders on neutral ground, pit them against each other, join them, or do ANYTHING bad
>They took the time to make a race track, unique racing robots, and a place for raiders to meet on neutral ground and bet money
>You can do none of these things, you just show up and shoot everybody
>Every single quest ends the same way: Find and murder a group of people. Always. Every. Single. Quest. Ends. In. Murder.
>Dozens of blank slates for you to build towns, and when you do no unique NPC's spawn. No culture forms. No quests directly tied to your new settlement that would make it unique or interesting in any way
They couldn't have fucked this game up any harder. It reeks of pure laziness in every single facet. As soon as you discover something that might begin to immerse you into this world, you are immediately pulled out of it by a dozen other things.
I am utterly sincere when I say that you have to be an idiot. A fool. A moron. You must be stupid to think this is a good game.
>>336482539
I am buttmad that Fallout 4 is Fallout 3 semi-HD edition.
>>336480510
Fuck off Todd
I personally enjoyed Fallout 4, though F3 is my favorite of them all.
>>336481972
uninstalled
>>336482356
>tfw it's true
I'll never forgive bethesda this transgression
>>336481972
>Jet?
Wasn't jet post war only? I remember /v/ getting their jimmies rustled for finding it pre war in fo4
>>336482824
Man that race track was disappointing. I wanted to place some bets and watch robots go fast.
Instead everyone just immediately starts shooting at me for no reason.
dont listen to the h8ers OP, I have 142 hours in it because it's a good game. DLCs coming out fast, theres already a ton of mods, official patches has been good too. if you see someone claiming f3 or new vegas is better, you can safely ignore them.
You bought a console for 2 PC games? Lol
>>336481448
>>336481972
I think this needs to be screen capped and perpetuated. This pretty much covers it.
>>336479909
How about playing it and deciding for yourself? Fuck sakes man.
>>336482716
I'm not even trying to argue that Fallout 4 is a good game, you dumb animeposter.
>>336479909
>buys a PS4 for what are clearly PC games
to what end?
FO4 without mods is really really awful. It's barely fun with mods.
>>336482701
6'2"
>>336482673
>Muh platform wars.
>>336479909
It's alright as an action title. Played with low endurance so every fight could've ended with me losing a leg and 10 minutes of progress. Though the enemies seem to be designed around the fact that you have some damage resistance. Radscorpions can literally teleport behind you in an instant. And they fucked the dialogue system hard. Aside from glaringly obvious streamlining they did (pro-tip choices dont matter), sometimes NPC's will just wander off in the middle of dialogue.
>>336479909
>trusting /v/ shit posting
>ever
It has fault's just like the other fallouts
it's a good experience the first time. But you might not play it more than the once.
totally worth it though. The game has that charm from fallout 4. it has that FEEL to it
>>336482824
Seriously this.
That race track? that fighting arena? All the between raider action/drama?
And the only option you have is to either, not go there at all, or get shot on sight and have to extinct the universe.
>>336481448
>3)Why do I hear 'War Never Changes' about 5 times in the first five minutes of the game?
That was really jarring. What the fuck where they thinking? I knew something was wrong when it was leaked that Ron Pearlman isn't going to be in Fallout 4.
I feel like I'm the only one here who enjoyed FO4 here.
>>336483081
Consoles get mod support sometime this month, but I understand where you're coming from
>>336483031
Yes. That was exactly the point he's making. Jet wasn't made for a long time post-war, why would it be in untouched pre-war facilities? Plus there's some terminal dialogue that mentions it as well. They fucked up their own lore.
>>336483081
But based Todd will bring mods on console, he wouldn't lie to us ;^)
>>336479909
Why would you buy a BloodborneStation to play multiplatform games?
There's too much random / radiant / do-it-yourself shit. It's probably one of the best triple A examples of a sandbox game. In that you can play it forever, so long as you don't want hand-crafted content.
>>336482216
>At least Neptunia is a coherent game
It's a hot mess of recycled assets, terrible writing, and shit characters. Nothing about it suggests it was done by a competent developer.
>>336479909
>I bought a ps4 a few days ago to play Witcher 3 & FO4
>>336480510
don't forget
>brown, bloom
>some more brown.
>oh yeah and rock's
>the capital was trash.
Diamond city is like megaton but less shit
>>336483141
see
>>336483081
Nothing to do with platform preference.
Playing Bethesda games on console i just like asking to be whipped.
If you took away the nice graphics, FO4 just feels like a really awesome mod someone made for free for FO3/NV.
IIRC there was a giant mod made by a guy for Skyrim called Falskaar. It was arguably bigger than the official Skyrim DLC, and while it didn't add any new features in and of itself, it was huge, had a bunch of quests, and some exploration. The features, hell, there's literally tens of thousands of separate mods that added those.
Anyway, give FO4 time. Maybe in another year some decent DLCs will come out and you can grab them up on a discount.
By the way, having a Fallout or EO game on anything but a PC is just retarded.
>>336479909
I don't understand how anyone ever thought Fallout 4 might be good. Explain that /v/
>>336482824
The quest designer forgot to remove his notes from the game.
>>336480531
They are all on drugs ya fuck? do you not understand that their are more chems than food in the fallout universe?
there isn't a single thing from fallout 3 in 4 you twat. They completely changed the aesthetics of the universe.
shit's got colour now.
>>336481972
For 21 I think they used biogel to hold people, and only for that one guy since he got destroyed so badly by that mine he triggered.
>>336482539
>163 hours
How can people have such shit taste?
So the overall consensus is that FO4 isn't as fun as its two predecessors?
It's actually more fun to talk about how bad Fallout 4 is rather than actually playing it.
>>336479909
They even fucked up the Vaults. I always liked to explore the vaults in New Vegas and 3 to a lesser extent, slowly revealing the background of them. But every single vault was boring and uninteresting in 4.
>>33648539
Thank god, I found someone else who likes the game. Grab my hand in this shitstorm.
>>336483412
>If you took away the nice graphics, FO4 just feels like a really awesome mod someone made for free for FO3/NV.
taking away RPG mechanics and general functionality is an "awesome mod" now?
>>336479909
Just play Witcher 3, an infinitely better RPG than Fallout 4, plus the DLCs are actually worthwhile and in some cases better than the actual games main questline. It really baffles me how anyone can defend the piece of barebones lackluster shit that is FO4.
>>336483064
>Anime
Now I'm just confused, but here's a (You) anyway
>>336483625
Fallout 4 has the best Overseer.
That's the only good thing about the Vaults.
>>336479909
>i bought a ps4 to play multiplats
what?
why?
>>336482539
I finally found someone else who enjoys FO4. Hello there, brother!
>>336483625
Did they remove the backstories from the Vaults completely or are they just shitty?
>>336479909
Everyone here is just mad that they ruined the dialog and perk system. It's still a fun game and you should get it.
>>336479909
YEHEHEA
FALLOUT 4 SUX!!1!!
>>336483260
>Consoles get mod support sometime this month, but I understand where you're coming from
People keep saying this but anyone who has heavily modded a bethesda game in the past knows it's not true. You'll get the big "featured" mods, the ones that work with your DLC, but it won't be like hopping on the nexus or any of the scene sites. You're lying to yourself.
>>336483256
But he is anon!He's the news anchor on TV that you only see for about a minute
>>336480029
I wouldn't say it's worse than FO3 but it's pretty damn bad
>>336483887
I know, I just uselessly hope that its a smaller version of the Nexus.
I was watching some footage and the cait stuff seemed really good. The characters all look interesting too.
>>336483573
>>336482539
Don't bother, i have 187 hourson my ps4and still don't like it very much.
Too bland, desu, and even while being so shitty, the building option was the best game feature, and thats not saying much.
So many problems with the game, the goods can't possibly outweigh them.
>>336479909
>I bought a PS4 to play multiplats
>>336479909
Depends on what you like about the Fallout series. The dialogue, choices and role-playing elements are fairly weak in 4, but as an open world shooter it's fun.
>>336482216
This board actually likes csgo more than cod
It's okay and good for one playthrough. I dicked around the map to finish side quests after the ending and promptly shelved it. Zero replay value and mindless after a while. Not as good as the previous titles.
Witcher 3 is great though. Hop on that.
>>336483789
I've only stumbled through 3 or so, there's only 1 that still has actual vault dwellers in it. They're too retarded to notice the big fuckoff lab complex built into the wall if that says anything.
>1 vault was about seeing what happens to addicts if you take their drugs away and give them mandatory self-help therapy sessions
>Shockingly they clean up and turn into decent people
>Now let's see what happens if we give them a bunch of drugs!!!
>Now the place is just gunner HQ
>Another vault was something about kids being turned into supersoldiers through lab breeding or some shit
>It was super hush hush until someone's clipboard dropped one piece of paper through a ventilation shaft
>Riots start
>Literally nothing after that, now it's also gunner HQ
>>336484068
>187 hours
>still don't like it
Stop lying to yourself anon, you love the game.
RPG: 4/10
FPS:8/10
Ragdoll ghouls: 10/10
Preston: 0/100
>>336482216
>generalizing a vietnamese cup stacking guestbook
>>336479909
I've got every achievement if that means anything.
It's ok, but don't expect to actually roleplay in any sort of way. Don't bother replaying since you have the same choices everytime except for the end.
I really loved Fallout New Vegas and kind of enjoyed Fallout 3, so I was really excited about Fallout 4 until I saw the gameplay during E3. That horrible dialogue system and MC's voice acting just killed my interest in one shot. I can't even remember how it felt to be excited about Fallout, the game series just faded away from my mind.
>>336484068
>187 hours
>Don't like it very much
On a scale of 1 to retarded, how much of a fuckwit are you?
>>336484382
>preston can't die
>hancock CAN die
Just why
>>336484473
The female voice actor is much better, she actually emotes.
>>336484658
Waiting for the sex mods so I can just slut my way through the wasteland.
>You can finally make all the factions work together through the power of an orgy
>>336480029
dude shut the fuck up, it's not a bad game
it's great tbqh ..for the pc
>>336484763
This is the only reason I'm waiting to play this game
If I have to go through a bland game like this I want some good faps at least
>>336484658
Preston is the worst companion out of the three Bethesda Fallouts. Hell, CODSWORTH is more useful than him. Don't even get me started on Marcy and Jun.
>>336483573
Completely unmodded too champ. I grew up in the golden age of video games so I don't have the same entitlement issues you guys do. A fully rendered 3d open world environment is simply mind blowing to me even in 2016
Why are there so many goddamn super mutants on the east coast?
There are fucking unlimited hordes of these bastards and they cannot make more of themselves and they have no central intelligent leader like The Master.
Apparently, FEV grows on fucking trees on the east coast because its extremely fucking common, and super mutants sprout out of the dirt like Warhammer 40k Orks or something.
>>336485083
>Don't even get me started on Marcy and Jun.
What's the point of them and that old junkie?
>>336485282
>entitlement
There's that word again
>>336485287
The institute "somehow" got some FEV and made a bunch of mutants for the hell of it, then dumped them into the boston area after they got tired of them. So really super mutants shouldn't be repopulating at all since there's no new source for them. Where's my exterminatus quest for the brotherhood where I eradicate every super mutant (including that retard Strong) from the wasteland?
>>336484473
Don't hope. That way if we ever get NV 2.0 it will be a pleasent surprise. After 3 I gave up and was pleasently surprised by NV, but I had learned my lesson. I pirated FO4 and modded the shit out of it. Mods couldn't save it though. Who thought voice acting the PC would be a good idea? It destroyed the replayability.
The guns are retarded as fuck, the whole concept of pipe guns is fucking asinine.
>>336485083
>Marcy
>You better keep your mouth shut about this place
Bitch I just built 10 fuckin gattling lasers, 5 missile launchers and got 3 tamed deathclaws that will automatically kill anything that looks at you wrong. You have nothing to worry about.
Wish there was a take back Quincy quest. Fuckin killed the gunners there enough to fill several graveyards and the minutemen obviously have ties there. Would have been a fantastic finale quest for them.
>>336485282
>implying
I was born in '86 kiddo. Comparing FO4 to FO it's a shitty game.
>>336479909
>Coming to /v/ to search for threads about a game you haven't played yet
Never ever ever do this ever.
>>336485528
>tfw when there's the slim possibility of someone porting NV onto the F4 engine through years of autism and effort ala TTW
>>336485287
Institute have their hands on Vault documentation and produced their own FEV. It's part of their overall goal of improving humanity through different scientific venues.
>>336485351
>>336485603
They're the epitome of cancer. If there's a school shooting, they're the cause of it. I saved them at level 5 with a shitty 10mm and a pipe pistol wearing tattered raider gear and a vault jumpsuit, while that pansy shitlord Preston bitched and moaned from his room. I brought them to Sanctuary, I can just as easily let it fall to ruins.
>>336485734
FEV has nothing to do with Vault-tec.
>People take Fallout lore seriously
Its just a mad max rip off. Get over yourselves.
>>336485836
According to Bethesda it does since the whole point of one vault was to experiment with it. I think they just got confused and thought West-Tek was the same as Vault-Tec.
>>336485982
What you don't care about Mad Max? Fuck you.
>>336486004
Vault 87 was finished before FEV even existed. The Pan Virion project hadn't even started yet by the time Vault 87 was done I believe.
I guess that makes time travel canon in Bethesda Fallout too.
>>336482824
>do the asylum quest with the father wearing the alien crown and his creepy immortal family
>side with him to be d e v i l i s h
>kill his family and set him loose
>nothing happens. Nothing. Here's some buff items you'll never use. I'll sit here nothing. No follw up. Nothing!
>beat the game
>not mentioned. Nothing is
They phoned so much shit in.
>>336485817
They're basically settlers in cowboy hats. Except settlers don't hilariously turn into chunks of gore and splattered body parts after a fight with a radstag.
>>336486213
>they're basically settlers in cowboy hats
So settlers.
It's more of an RPG than Witcher 3
Fallout 4
>can be full melee build
>can be full ranged build
>Can be a smooth talking savant
>can be a womanizer
>can be a female/male
>Not only can you build your own house but you can build your own settlements and only allow certain races/genders to enter while assigning them individual jobs/roles
>Numerous companions that add layer to the exploration (additional dialogue) and combat
>Can be good, evil, neutral or mixtures of the three
>Quests can be how you play it, go lethal, non lethal (full playthrough was made), stealth, guns blazing, let your companions do the work for you etc
>not even mentioning the Mods, mods, MODS
Witcher 3
>can only use one handed weapons (primarily swords)
>one offensive spell
>took CDPR 5 months to implement a storage mechanic, let alone a house/settlement
>Quests range from talking, forced repetitive sword combat (with some gimmick bombs/generic spells thrown in) and following red shit
>Game is literal who tier so nobody gives 2 shits about the game enough to mod it
People will talk about Fallout 4s "repetitive quests" that are purely related to the "dynamic" ones that are admittedly pointless but Witcher 3 has something even worse. Points of Interest
Now's the part where Witcherfags point to their metacritic (See Skyrim) and "d-doesn't count!" their way through everyone of my arguments.
>>336486213
I wouldn't mind if as much if they weren't tagged as 'essential'.
Nigga, they were in maybe five quests, they're only use is for annoying as shit radiant quests.
>>336486394
>>336479909
everything besides the gunplay is terrible. and the gunplay is mediocre at best
The game is not really challenging, even on the higher difficulty levels due to jet being really broken.
The conversations never matters, it is obvious that they had to make compromises due to the nature of the speech wheel and a voice acted protagonist.
No one really cares that you are someone who lived before the great war, Wouldn't you have access to a ton of information that might otherwise have been lost?
You can almost always convince someone even if you fail a speech test, the only reason they are there is because of extra XP.
It doesn't matter how well defended your settlements are, people will still somehow get kidnapped.
It doesn't matter how well defended your settlements are, if they get 'attacked' and you don't go help defend it the attackers will break everything.
It is never explained to you why the institute did what they did, just a bunch of vague nonsense.
There is never any closure to the minutemen storyline, you keep hearing about this big massacre at Quincy and when you go there it is populated with baddies, but aside from that retarded finale to the Valentine questline there is nothing to do there, you never take it back, you never even have a proper confrontation with them.
Everything is so fucking cramped together and yet feel completely disconnected from eachother, in the lost patrol quest the squad touched down right next to the biggest super mutant camp in the area.
Most quests only work under the assumption that you are the only one who is walking around outside the town, otherwise the things you find or do make 0 sense.
You cannot say no to radiant quests so they bloat your quest log, and they have a time limit. It doesn't matter though, because there are 0 consequences for failing them.
Speaking of 0 consequences, that is the game in a nutshell, it doesn't matter what you do or how you act, you will always be treated as the good guy, the only way you can be 'evil' in this game is to use the sarcasm option.
>>336479909
Beat the game in the first 4 days. Tried to play another run to side with the institute instead of the brotherhood BUT IT WAS TOO BORING
Story/lore wise it is garbage.
Gameplay is repetetive shooter with shit AI and glitches/bugs.
You want good story game? Play Witcher 3.
You want good gameplay? Play Dark Souls 3.
You want overhyped piece of garbage with subpar graphics and bugs? FO4 is for you.
>>336486587
>It doesn't matter how well defended your settlements are, people will still somehow get kidnapped.
Or raiders puttin the screws to them. "We had to give them all our caps no other option a BLOO BLOO BLOO" Find these fuckers, it's 3 people all lvl 5.
>>336486749
>siding with BoS
Besides adding more junk to collect like files and blood samples they're just as boring. And they're all pricks too. Everyone you befriend they want you to backstab later. They're much more fun to fight.
>>336486162
>Let's see now
>FEV makes super muties
>FEV comes from Pan-Immunity Viron Project and Vault 87 has FEV
>Now then
>FEV don't exist until finished in West-Tek base on west coast in 2075
>But vaults were finished in 2063
IT JUST DON'T ADD UP
>>336486587
Try using jet and orther needles in survival mode and you'll quickly lean never to use them unless you are faced with certain death.
>>336486394
>Fallout 4 lets you be smooth talking
No. Provide me with examples where you are a 'smooth talking savant.' because I put 80+ hours in the game and never saw that once. I did hear some dialogue that seemed like it came out of a 1930's film, but it was far from smooth.
>Can be a womanizer
And Geralt 'Chief Patron of The Passiflora' isn't?
>You can build your own house and settlements
That offer nothing. At all. Absolutely nothing. You know this to be true. Building towns and homes that offer you no tangible benefits whatsoever isn't part of a good RPG. It's not part of any good game system. If I invest time and resources into something, I should get something out of it.
>Numerous companions
Two of them were mildly interesting. When you finish their quests they never mention it again. I was increasing relations with companions so fucking fast they were stopping me every 30 seconds to tell me how much they appreciate me. No one gives a shit. They were all inter-changeable tropes.
>Quests can be how you play it
No. Quests go like this: You accept it. You go to the marked location. You kill everyone. You may pick up an item, maybe not. You go back to where you got the quest. You are given nothing of value, and often make far more money just going to the quest location than completing it. Why are you lying? Non lethal? Full playthrough non-lethal? In Fallout 4? Why the fuck are you lying?
>Mods
At this point, Bethesda is known for requiring mods to FIX their game, instead of adding seamless content. Mods are no longer considered a bonus for Bethesda games, but a requirement in order to get any sort of fun. This is a design flaw, not a design boon.
The Witcher 3 is a better RPG for several simple reasons. All of them have to do with action = reaction. And choice = short term and long term consequence. None of these things exist in Fallout 4.
>>336481448
>12) Why are there only 2 towns on the map, and they're both within a 3 minute walk from each other?
There's
Diamond City
Goodneighbour
Bunker Hill
Covenant
And Vault 81 (sorta)
Still, they all sorta feel lifeless except goodneighbour, which fails at it's concept of being a lawless town and nobody tries to shank you randomly and it only really exists because the memory den had to be somewhere.
I agree with everything else you said though
OP here. Well I'll probably sell the game then. Was really looking forward in immersing myself in the game but all the posts here have just soured me on the game & dampened any enjoyment I might have with it. Oh well.
Why would anybody work with the institute?
By the time you arrive there here's what you've seen them do
>Kidnap your son
>Build murderous synths that only exist to kill
>Allegedly kidnap even more people
>"No seriously it's all for the greater good, we're just not ready to help the wasteland yet, even after 200 years prep time"
Why would any sane person go there and listen to their spiel? Go there, see their cool stuff and kill them and give it to a faction that'll use it for good.
>>336488013
>Having the most miserable fuckers in existence influence whether you want to play something or not
Fallout 4 isn't a good game but you could do much worse.
>>336488013
But OP I did enjoy it, but it's only worth one playthrough. It doesn't have much to offer in replayability, heck I ended up reinstalling Skyrim.
What companions aren't garbage?
I liked Nick, shame there wasn't anything more with his whole "I'm kellog" thing going on
I liked Cait too, I felt the writer for her actually was half decent and didn't just write a stereotype.
>>336488504
I joined 'em.
I figure, if I don't want to waste the time trying to beat them, I can join them and get everything I want immediately since I'm the fucking man ASAP.
And, then they're under my will power, and do what I want them to.
And, if not I still have my .45 cal revoke initiator.
>>336479909
>I bought a ps4 a few days ago to play Witcher 3 & FO4
You already fucked up.
>>336488504
All the other factions are stupid and don't want their tech.
>>336479909
>buying a console to play a cRPG like Fallout 4
this guy.
>>336488649
The only ones I didn't like were Preston 'cause he's a useless milquetoast, Piper 'cause she rubbed me the wrong way with her slimy muh journalism and Strong who had nothing to say about anything ever.
All three robots had more personality than Preston.
>>336488738
The brotherhood doesn't want institute tech?
Are you lying or are they seriously retarded?
>>336487606
Bunker Hill is not a city or a town. It is a trading post. People show up there specifically for exchanging goods, and then leave. I would not call it a town.
Covenant is 4 houses. I would not call that a town or a city. It reminded me more of The Republic of Dave, which also was not a real town or a city.
Vault 81 I will give you, but even then they utterly fucked up a functioning vault that trades with the outside. Never once did I feel like I was in a real vault.
>>336488941
They nuke the institute instead of looting it
>>336488941
In their eyes all the Institute tech was used in the most abhorrent manners possible, they want nothing to do with it on a moral level. What's the other two factions excuse? lol I dunno even the faction all about "my synth friends rights freeeedom" destroyed it despite the fact its the only way synths are created, hence undermining their orginizations existance.
>>336479909
Yeah. I tried to get into it.. I really couldn't.
If you treat it like CoD with dialogue options (kinda) then it's not horrible. But if you want an RPG, this is not going to be fun.
I thought people were joking about the Yes, No, Yes (Sarcastic), More Info template.
Holy fuck it's everywhere
>>336479909
I would wait for the goty edition.
Play other games, maybe the exclusives
>>336489156
>>336489174
>Brotherhoods main problem in the commonwealth is requiring the support of settlements
>A side quest is to go and drum up supplies for the brotherhood
>Institute tech would allow them to grow their own food on the prydwen and be completely self-sufficient
NAH LET'S FUCKING NUKE IT
Thank you bethesda, just when I thought you did one thing right. You tear it down.
>>336488504
>Allegedly kidnap even more people
Did they kill them? Use them for the FEV experiments? I thought I'd find a prison with all the duplicates somewhere.
>>336488941
The Brotherhood of Steel wants you to nuke the institute. From orbit. They want to blow up the safest, most technologically advanced center of knowledge and learning possible. The place which would literally be the perfect base of operations for all future Brotherhood of Steel movements across the entire continent- and they want to blow it up. You cannot convince them to salvage it, to move in, to leave it alone- they want it blown up.
The Brotherhood. Which exists solely to find dangerous technology and store it/learn about it/tame it for future peaceful use to rebuild society, wants you to blow up the institute- the one facility in the world that would make all their wettest wet dreams come true.
You are also never told why replacing everyone with robots that cannot reproduce is a good idea. The Institute NEVER fleshes out their end-goal of kidnapping and replacing people with robots. I figured maybe they would go the route of Armitage III, where they create a synthetic lifeform that is capable of reproducing and giving birth to human offspring. But they don't even do that- the androids are sexless, barren. Not a single one of the egg-heads with a 200 IQ can explain to you why replacing real people with synthetics will save humanity. None.
All the Fallout games are bad
>>336487592
>Provide me with examples where you are a 'smooth talking savant.'
Any Charisma based dialogue checks
d-doesn't count #1
>And Geralt 'Chief Patron of The Passiflora' isn't?
Nope, there's an actual build/perk designed around a womanizer character
>That offer nothing.
Equipment, storage, Roleplaying purposes, can store shops that sell great equipment, store your power armor among numerous other things.
d-doesn't count #2
>Two of them were mildly interesting
Nice subjective opinion
d-doesn't count #3
>No. Quests go like this: You accept it. You go to the marked location. You kill everyone
"Kill"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDjyHFtcJG8
d-doesn't count #4
>At this point,
Finally, d-doesn't count #5. Then you go on to make bold claims about how Witcher 3 is a better RPG without listing a single reason.
Can't say i'm surprised.
I had fun just exploring the map and looting for about 20 hours
Then i started the main quest. oh boy.. The writing is cringey as fuck. Words alone are not dialogue bethesda
>>336483061
going to do that right now
>>336479909
it's ok. don't pay full price.
>>336490549
Done.
It's a bad game.
Shamelessly flawed, unninspired and bland
>>336490673
beat me to it, but thanks anon
>>336490761
NO
Just play it OP. Make an opinion on your own
FO4 is such of a lazy mess it amazes me that anyone even still likes this game. This game is literally the phantom menace of post-apocalyptic video-games
>>336490761
Why did you delete your post
>>336491131
Fallout 4 is a great intelligence test. If people truly think it's a great RPG and a fantastic game, and an upgrade over previous generations of RPG's, you know they are under the age of 16, they are playing devil's advocate for bait posts, or they are genuinely retarded.
There is not a single redeeming factor to Fallout 4. It's the worst Fallout game, and even when you do not compare it to previous Fallouts or point out the hundreds of thousands of ways which it contradicts Fallout at every turn, it is still on its own an absolutely horrendous RPG.
>>336490176
Thinks that a guy putting on his grade 9 'seduction voice' in Drama class makes him a suave savant, or that the writing in ANY romance/seduction dialogue is some how good. If he truly, legitimately believes that, this is his very first RPG.
Even Alpha Protocol, a broken rushed and hacked-to-death-to-meet-deadlines product managed to pull off dialogue trees far better than Fallout. Bethesda is literally incapable of writing.
>>336490549
>>336490673
I went ahead and made a version that includes the raider track just to be more concise
>>336480306
Namely the ending, in witch you find out your son is the head of the institute and you either kill him or nuke boston.
>>336491604
Cool, thanks anon.
>>336491660
pretty shocked it took this long for someone to spoil itson=bad guy, kill him or nuke boston
>>336485630
How can you be proud of yourself?
I was born in 93 and hate myself for playing videogames. How is it that you feel no shame in this?
>>336491660
BAVI
>>336479909
>check file
>5d 16H 43M
Safe to say I've enjoyed my experience OP, haven't finished all the side quests or even touched the main quest past the first few railroad missions. DLC has been great so far to surprisingly and another is on the way.
Fav quests overall so far
>Silver Shroud
>The Cabot House
>Devils Due
Just buy the game or play it and see for yourself. This is from a fallout fan and RPG fan OP.
>>336491445
>Now's the part where Witcherfags point to their metacritic (See Skyrim) and "d-doesn't count!"
>"d-doesn't count!"
Everytime. Come back when you can do more than dissmiss everything.
>>336492724
Absolutelygood taste.
>>336492979
This post doesn't count
I liked it enough to get the platinum trophy. Base building and crafting is pretty fun once it clicks.
I liked the weapon variety. Too bad clearing locations gets stale. There should have been more giant monsters.
>>336479909
If you liked FO3/NV you will like this one too. Its more of the same with much better graphic and design solutions (namely power armors).
tbqh fallout 4 is better than witcher 3
>>336480306
It's no longer an RPG, it looks terrible, and it runs pretty horribly due to it's hyper-outdated engine
>>336492979
>post doesn't mention critic ratings
>the post doesn't mention the witcher 3
>Never once said something didn't count
Who are you quoting and arguing with? Have you just ignored the dozens of posts pointing out how bad and flawed Fallout 4's game design, narration, item pool, quests, and over-all writing is bad? Why have you not quoted any of those posts to disprove any of their points?
Because you're a babbling shill.
>>336494556
>"You can't be a smooth savant"
>Yes you can, there are dialogue options purely based on your charisma level
>"Who cares, the dialogue is shit anyway"
Fallout 4 is shit, I don't care if you buy it or not, I torrented that piece of trash. It's just objectively more of an RPG as well as a more deep game (mechanically) than the "Matyoore" Zelda that is Witcher 3. I gave direct examples, I made observable statements and all you did was dismiss, dismiss and dismiss without giving counter points to strengthen your argument.
If anyone here is a shill, it's you, CDlapdog
>>336493831
I loved NV. I hated FO4. Don't lie to the poor man.
>>336483738
Le witcher 3 is an rpg meme
>>336482315
>muh/pol/ boogeyman
It's the same kind of shitposting as complaining about sjws or console wars faggotry.
I bet you also complain that /v/ is bad and wonder why that is.
>>336494919
>Fallout 4 is shit and I don't care
>I just came here to argue against Witcher fans
If we're in agreeance that Fallout 4 is shit, then there's nothing else to discuss. Go make a thread about how shitty the Witcher 3 is and make arguments there, instead of coming to a Fallout thread and making a strawman about comparing it to FO4. What the fuck are you doing?
>>336494935
The only thing i liked in fallout NV was freedom of choice. But game was flat world wild wild west with drop of fallout theme park. Everything felt so out of place, plastic. The only thing i liked was actual new vegas itself and Mr. House who really felt like dystopian character; one (1) character in whole game who didnt fall out of some generic USA war movie in entire game.
>>336496623
>generic USA war movie in entire game.
>romans
what?
>>336495690
I never drew the comparison, OP did you fucking retard
>>336496838
No he didn't. All he did was say he bought a PS4 to play Witcher 3.
>>336483031
>>336483286
The lore behind Jet has been fucked up multiple times by Bethesda now.
>Only person who could make Jet dies 1 year after Fallout 2, meaning Jet should have disappeared after a few years.
>Jet was a New Reno product, and mostly stayed in Reno and it's surrounding areas. Lord knows how it got on the other side of the fucking continent.
>Jet was post-war, as you both stated.
>>336496623
Really? The NCR felt like typical soldiers but literally everything else was a combination of Rome, Mad Max, 50s sci-fi and a bunch of other non US military shit.
>>336480306
If you think that this picture is joke - trust me, it isnt. There are literally 4 options of dialogue evewry time - no more, but most of all, NO LESS. So even if the situation asks for Yes or No answer, there would be two other pointless options. Either "Sarcastic", i.e. joke made by someone who really bad at humor or "Ask for information".
>>336496934
Yes and I explained to him why Fallout 4 is less shit than Witcher 3
>>336497291
Because you have autism, right?
>Hey guys, what do you think of apples? I just bought some apples and oranges and-
>WELL APPLES AT LEAST AREN'T AS BAD AS ORANGES
>TASTY SKIN
>JUICE IS GOOD FOR YOU
>TASTES DELICIOUS
>bought a PS4
>to play Fallout 4
>didn't even consider at least playing W3 on PC
no, there is literally no reason for you to be here, and you're sorely mistaken thinking you'll find this place comfortable to crash with such dudebro choices, shithead
>>336481448
>4)Why did you shoot my wife if you have a motherhood complex and put mothers on pedestals?
>5)If they took my kid on the assumption they want pre-war DNA for experiments, why turn off all the life pods except mine, the one guy who would want revenge?
Bethesda logic. They have literally worst writers in the AAA industry.
>>336497538
He bought two games on the PS4 and made note to list them. He for some reason had a pre conceived notion that his opinion of game One was somehow a "shit game", I merely told him that it's better than game Two (which I assume he has played already as he had no preconceived notions of that game).
Regardless, this ad hominem you've resorted too after getting completely blown the fuck out is amusing to say the least.
>>336497959
>Y-YOU'RE BTFO
No, you're a fucking idiot who feels compelled to bring up comparisons where none were made just because "H-he said them!'
If you hate Witcher 3 so much and want to piss off Witcherfags so badly, make a thread instead. Or do you know you'd get BTFO there too, you cuck?
>>336481448
>>336481972
Capped.
>>336497959
>Trying to save face on an anonymous image board
You're cute. Can you give me a (You) too? Or are you too angry and red in the face while hammering at that keyboard to focus on me?~
>>336481448
>>336481972
As many valid complaints as there are, I hate when it's obvious people ignore/didn't pay close enough attention to explanations the game gives you, then lists them as failures of the game.
>>336496776
Did you actually talk with any1 from legion ?
Not only the voice acting but also text that was delivered ? Van buren project saw them as one of the raider groups that was inspired by ancient Rome. Here they are actual Romans that were either brought here by time portal or there was some movie set with ton or roman props that cesar raided.
Also NCR outgunned the BoS but the band of raiders that prefer close combat fight are the greatest threat they ever faced.
>>336482337
Fallout 3 was much better. At least it qualified as RPG.
>>336498501
>Here they are actual Romans that were either brought here by time portal or there was some movie set with ton or roman props that caesar raided.
No, they're a bunch of stupid tribals taught the ways of Rome by a particularly smart fucker.
>Also NCR outgunned the BoS but the band of raiders that prefer close combat fight are the greatest threat they ever faced.
Said raiders were being led by a person feared by BOTH sides.
>>336498501
>outgunned
*outnumbered
The BOS was never outgunned by NCR, elder McNamara specifies this and so does the Helios One guard.
>>336496623
>Everything felt so out of place, plastic
>So unlike TEH INSTETUTEH
>>336498501
>Here they are actual Romans that were either brought here by time portal or there was some movie set with ton or roman props that cesar raided.
Did you even play the fucking game?
>>336498083
Why engage in argument with me only to backpeddal at the last minute then?
Why not question the reason my argument exists in the first place rather than after the fact?
Seems to me that you tried to argue with me, got anally rekt with facts and observable statistics and then went full typical 4chan tier with the insults and "w-who cares anyway".
Why did you even humor me in the first place and try to refute my points, see:>>336487592 if you were going to back peddal in the end?
Put up, or shut up
>>336480029
The fallout 4 story is pretty bad.
>>336479909
>buying a ps4 just to play the witcher at 20fps
Why anon? You're not doing yourself any good.
>>336500208
You've been the one backpedaling this entire time you fucking idiot. I called you out on deciding to waste time talking about Witcher 3 in a thread focused on Fallout in order to "BTFO" Witcherfags who weren't in the fucking thread anyway. I brought up the (very common) apples and oranges argument in order to point out what you were doing was retarded, and you proceeded to further back away, try to save face, and pretend I somehow got "blown the fuck out" by you, you even resorted to waiting almost 20 minutes in hopes I'd be gone before you replied. I haven't even played a Witcher game, I just think you're fucking retarded.
How about you make a thread to actually shit on Witcher 3 so you can get actual replies from people who play the games. Put up or shut up, anon.
>>336500208
>He's still trying to save face
Ohmygosh you're so fucking adorable. Do you have a humiliation kink? Is this why you're still digging the hole deeper? C'mon, give me a (You), call me butthurt, show me how upset and humiliated you are you little slut. You're my bitch, and you'll give me a (You) because you want to give me one.
>>336500208
It's simple as this, not the person you're quoting btw.
In The Witcher 3, faction and character motivations become clear as you talk to the characters and faction heads. Everything makes sense within the context of the universe- why Radovid is purging mages, why the Emperor wants Ciri, why people treat Witchers with distrust. When I ask a question of the world and the lore, the game is there to answer it.
Nothing is answered in Fallout 4. You don't know why the institute wants to replace everyone with synths. No one will tell you. No one will explain why the Brotherhood wants to blow up the institute, no one will tell you. No one will explain why Mcreedy doesn't take the cure for his son back to D.C for a bit and then maybe meet up with you later, and instead just hangs around with you. No one explains where this technology to enter past memories came from. No one explains why Kellogg has cyber technology to make him ageless and why no one else has this technology. You ask hundreds of questions of Fallout 4, and the answer is always "it just works."
With The Witcher 3, when you ask questions, there is an in-game, in-lore, in-character response to these questions.
>I like what we’ve done with the dialogue system… and having played Fallout 3 again recently I keep, in Fallout 4 when I’m playing, I keep hitting the button to leave dialogue. I keep forgetting, ‘Oh, I can just walk away’. I don’t have to wait for this guy to stop talking’. And now I’m playing other stuff, where there’s dialogue and I’m thinking, ‘Oh, I wish I could just walk away’. Because I don’t have the attention span for long dialogue! . . . Unless it’s Uncharted or anything by Naughty Dog, and then I never skip any of the dialogue – ’cause theirs is awesome.
This is a quote from senior Bethesda Producer Pete Hines. You don't have a leg to stand on. Please fuck off.
All you need to know is that FO4 is so mediocre that /v/ doesn't even bother to meme or shitpost about it.
>>336498741
I will just blatantly agree with that cesar legion is great and feared by everyone, and as a plot set it isnt even that bad or hard to explain, but when i talk with stupid tribals (and lets say cesar even have mandatory school courses for everyone) they sound like they are bad extras delivering text that someone is holding behind my head that says "read this in stern voice". EVERYONE from legion including Cesar.
Marcus, The King and Mr House- decent voice acting. With Mr house being decent character overall. Marcus was imported with literally everything except character model and minigun from fallout 2 so i wont give them credit for him.
>>336501006
>Marcus was imported with literally everything except character model and minigun from fallout 2 so i wont give them credit for him.
He has the minigun actually. And is literally the same character, with a bunch of new lines and history, and even references Fallout 2.
>>336499704
>>Everything felt so out of place, plastic
>>So unlike TEH INSTETUTEH
I did not say that FO4 is better then NV. I said it is more of the same etc.
>>336480342
No prior experience and it still fucking sucks. The only other FO game I played before was FO3 and I played maybe a few hours. I couldn't stomach FO4 beyond the first hour or so. The minute I seen I couldn't turn v-sync off and seen the amount of input lag the game has I was like lol nope.
>>336487274
Its simple, Bethesda wanted to add Super Mutants in to appeal to the fans of the previous games, no matter what.
>>336499843
>Did you even play the fucking game?
Yes! why do you ask ? Did you see their costumes ? Its not like they are made from used tires or scrap metal. Those were real roman uniforms with capes, engraved metal buttons and everything... Did Cesar raided set of Spartacus? Maybe i missed that part.
>>336479909
>Bought a ps4
>With PS4.5 around the corner
Goddamn son you fucked up
>>336501508
>Cheap red cloth, a few belts, some poorly hammered out helmets, and a few simple engravings
>They were 100% true to form Roman Uniforms
Nigger, please. He read a book, saw some drawings, and pilfered the idea.
>>336500316
>The fallout 4 story is pretty bad.
I agree, but fallout3 story was fallout1 and fallout2 mashed together into a mess and NV was scraping from unfinished van buren project to force something out of it.
If u wanted story then go FO1 and FO2.
>>336501508
People constantly shit on the Legion in-game for using sports gear in most of their armor. The fancy, Romanesque stuff is almost always reserved for senior officers, and even centurion gear is mostly salvage.
OP should just get it for PC, assuming his rig can even run this piece of crap, and await the eventual sex mods and waifus. They're becoming the only good part of Bethesda games aside from the really cool quest mods that eventually arrive.
>>336501508
They're wearing fucking football pads and their machetes are almost entirely old fan blades.
>>336501883
I liked f3/nv story way more than fallout 4.
>>336483063
>How about playing it and deciding for yourself? Fuck sakes man.
Because if you buy it to play it and it sucks you've still given the producer more incentive to make another game just as shitty.
>>336485982
>Its just a mad max rip off. Get over yourselves.
No it isn't. Fallout has its own distinct aesthetic, rules, characters, weapons, combat and other things. It doesn't even have cars. There are zero cars in Fallout. How can it be a Mad Max rip off without cars?
>>336482337
Fallout 1 and 2 are boring as fuck, how you asshats can even have fun with that game compared to NV or even 4 is beyond fucking me.
>>336479909
I have 3 three lv 50+ characters on xbone. Gonna go for 4th when survival launches on friday. Play games that are fun for you and fuck everyone else's opinions.
>>336479909
>Basing your opinions on /v/
Do not fucking do this, if you're curious about a game try it yourself and form your own opinion and shitpost it on /v/.
I enjoyed Skyrimwith modsand The Mass Effect trilogy despite it getting shit on /v/.
>>336497263
>Vidro
>There's paper cups inside
People can't be that stupid can they?
