He's right you know
Joke's on him, I only play games about japanese girls
>>336458590
inb4 /pol/tards storm in for damage control
BLESZINSKI
just don't buy their video games?
there are other devs out there
>>336458590
Every time I hear claims that games are full of "white dudes" I never see any hard stats that back up the claim. Always seems like cherrypicking.
The problem isn't that games aren't being diverse enough with race, sexuality. etc,it's that many are trying far too hard to shoehorn it in for no reason and bask in the fact that they are so "progressive".
>>336458590
>Cliff pandering in a last ditch effort to try and remain relevant
Cute
>>336458590
It really fucking pisses me off when people make blanket statements like this as if they apply to every game.
Yeah, sure, there are some stories where a diverse cast makes sense, and might improve the characterisation.
There are other stories where it either wouldn't make sense, or would get in the way of what the devs/writers are trying to convey.
People pretending there's a single best approach to everything shits me endlessly. It's the same as when people here argue either that gay characters should be super subtle or massively in your face.
>>336458590
BASED BLEZINSKI
>>336458590
he should shut the fuck up and make a proper Jazz Jackrabbit 3
being is white is bad
it's boring
you should be ashamed if you're white or use white characters in your fictional work
>>336458664
Pretty much this. Although sometimes they sneak in an exchange student/ foreigner, but the art looks the same so there is no real difference.
I wish people spent less time "figuring this out" and patting themselves on the back forever and more time just making fucking games with whatever diversity they think is so interesting without making such a big deal about it.
>>336459320
Drumpf with the republican nominee lol cucks
how's that old fossil bernie doing?
He is right that a diverse cast looks better than just a bunch of white guys
But blatantly including a certain group just because of their skin color is a bit stupid.
>diversity for diversity's sake is not empty pandering and is actually a good thing for such reasons as
>>336459412
It's also racist.
>>336458590
Fucking racist piece of shit.
>>336459412
No, a diverse cast does not universally and objectively look better. Unless there is justification for it beyond "white people are bad" and affirmative action then you just shouldn't do it.
Gears of War did it correctly, to his credit.
>>336459410
>how's that old fossil bernie doing?
Funny how people don't seem to have a problem with being led by an old white guy when he promises them "free" shit.
>>336459515
>Unless there is justification for it
So what, you should have all the characters be white by default unless you have a damn good reason?
he can say something is more interesting FOR HIM but it wont mean anything unless shareholders also believe it makes the game sell more
thank god for capitalism.
>>336459608
top kek never thought I would see the day where people were getting triggered over non-whites in their vidya games
>too many games about white dudes
>half the dudes in games are Asian
b-b-but only brown people count you racist!
>>336459608
>white by default
please kill yourself
>>336459480
>no homo
>white woman representation
pretty sure "no homo" was invented and is almost exclusively used by niggers
>>336459480
>stupid
wow way to put down the mentally different
He's not wrong though.
I'd like to play a Spaniard or a Vietnamese guy in a videogame.
That's why I play Jap games because they are the only games that allow me to play non-Americans.
>>336459072
People absolutely love to generalise as much as possible.
It's a part of life. Just look at this place, every game is either 10/10 GOAT or complete utterly irredeemable garbage, most of the time both judgements hinge on subjective feelings or nitpicking.
It's easier to make things black and white than to think in a more nuanced way. Never expect someone to take the hard way, even if it ultimately is the better way.
>>336459608
No. Just don't include the token minorities for the sake of including them for muh representation.
>>336459608
There is no default.
>Inb4 but hurrrrr all games feature white guys
Newsflash, white guys historically do shit, they go places, they get things done, more so than anyone else, there's a reason as to why they're so prominent.
>>336459608
You should have the characters all be whatever is appropriate for the setting unless you have a good reason.
>European warfare game like chivalry or mountain blade
Cast should be 80-90% white and male.
>African tribal warfare game
Cast should be 90%+ black and male
>warring States period game
Cast should be 100% Asian and male
>warfare game in a post-apocalyptic setting like gears of War
Cast can be whatever. A mix of races makes sense because those societies were already integrated and diverse to begin with.
Etc.
Putting in people of different races and genders just because you can is dumb and wrong.
>>336458590
Because nobody cares what such a character does, how he is portrayed or treated or what happens to that character.
If it's no longer white or male, then it somehow gets treated as a representative of it's demographic which can lead to people looking for societal/cultural messages where there aren't any intended.
If people stopped giving so much of a damn of what game characters are and paid more attention to who they are, maybe developer studios would be less weary of a backlash minefield when creating characters that aren't the usual white male spectrum.
>>336459768
But then if they add a character who is black or whatever, you idiots wlll then assume that it's because of muh "sjdubya" or tokenism. Such a bullshit answer.
If it really was so fucking incredible to have non-white characters in games why dont they just make such a game, have everyone be impressed by it and you dont need to say anything about white people.
>>336459924
It depends entirely on context.
>>336458862
/thread
>>336459924
It's a catch 22 due to the moral panic caused by the "sjdubya".
MBOKTWE TONGUNOBOGONGA, SECURE THE LZ
>>336459924
Fucking wrong holy shit, you're actually this stupid? I'm saying that adding in minorities that don't fit the game setting for whatever reason is dumb. I can't explain it in even simpler terms.
>>336459753
persona 4 mc is too suave for words
what a pimp
what a man
what a character
>>336459924
It's entirely context sensitive.
WHO THE FUCK CARES? JUST MAKE A GOOD GAME YOU FUCKING SHIT
>>336459553
>Gets exhausted from shouting
Man fuck modern medicine for being able to keep these people alive
>>336459132
You are onto something.
They both have the same, punchable face.
jokes on him, i only like games where the cast is all waifus, with a token badass motherfucker bro because some days you just wanna chill and drink
Caring about race or gender in video games (or any artform for that matter) outside of it's relevance to story, makes you a degenerate.
This infantilisation of American culture is both hilarious in its idiocy and deeply saddening in the sheer waste of processing hours lost to the meaningless drama.
Fuck you OP, and fuck Tumblr.
>>336460241
ye, but controversy is amazing for marketing when it comes to mediocre game devs
I thought he gave up trying to be in with the hip SJW indie crowd when he posted that video of him fondling an oppai mousepad? Is he backpedaling again?
These guys love their safe spaces, so where are the safe spaces for "white dudes". "White dudes" a really small minority worldwide. Don't they deserve a safe space? Don't they deserve to create media for their own consumption?
>>336459924
Let me give you a few examples:
>good
Alyx and her father. Both were very well received and good characters that fit well in the setting.
Cole. He made sense in the setting even if his character was stereotypical.
All the characters in Deus Ex.
>bad
Transgender temple knight/cleric with access to gender changing magic and enough money to afford it wearing a set of magical plate armor and enchanted weapons from that BG2 expansion.
>>336458862
I can call to mind upwards of 20 games from the past decade with a white, male, het lead.
How many non-het leads can you name?
Female PoC?
PoC at all?
The only one you could plausibly do, honestly, is women-- even that is a stretch though. Go.
>>336460423
>How many non-het leads can you name?
Your life
>>336459480
>these virtue signaling faggots
I can't wait for my descendants to ravage their homes and enslave their women.
>>336460524
DESTROYED
>>336460245
>20 mins ago got home from town
>had a coffee, read my book
>roughly 20 year old turboretard making the loudest snorting noises walks in with his wranglers
>sounds like he can barely breath unassisted
>sits down and has to be hand-fed food
>wrangler has to pour liquid into retard's mouth to hydrate him
Boy oh boy I'm sure his mother is proud of his son.
>>336459320
>middle left
christ
>>336460423
>PoC
I think the term you're looking for is "Coloured person" or simply "Coloured".
>How many non-het leads can you name?
Probably fuck all -- but how is sexual orientation pertinent to a game? Surely gays can make games for themselves if they care so much about gay protagonists. The same applies to "minorities". There's nothing stopping South Africans from making games that are just full of blacks.
Write what you know. the last thing you want to do is write or come up with a character you know nothing about. Its like when Cory Doctorow makes crack cocaine into a harmless drug that white people do because it is now safe and addiction isn't a thing anymore. But fails to realise that for some the drug is much more than an addictive substance it was the fuel that burned down the family unit in the inner city.
>Actually saying shit like this
The minute you come out and say this stupid shit is the minute it comes across as pandering.
Just put niggers and fags in your game just don't make them obnoxious I don't give a shit either fucking way. I don't even notice the skin colour of a character unless it's purple or some shit.
>>336460524
you're right. Was that supposed to be an insult?
>>336460423
Why is it important to you that video games have perverts as their protagonists?
I do want more variety. Don't care if that comes in the form of different races.
>>336459545
Bernie is jewish, tho'.
>>336459924
Sazh was the best character in FFXIII
Barret was best boy in FFVII
Anderson was the best character in Mass Effect
Drebin pretty much saved MGS4 for me
Rodin is the best boy in Bayonetta
And then there's Alyx Vance
All are great characters and none were shoehorned in to meet diversity quotas, so it's not like it can't be done
>>336460423
Because demographics.
>>336459553
Can I get a source on this, I've always wondered how landwhales sound like.
>>336460405
>Be grateful we aren't just killing you
if anybody should be grateful for not being killed it's xim
>>336460623
What's wrong about a straight dev making a game featuring a gay person if he wants to as opposed to a gay dev doing so?
>>336460623
No, actually, I'm not a bigot like you, thank you.
And there are plenty of things stopping them. Money, lack of access to a white male dominated industry, being eternally bound to publishers who have not updated their social marketing rules since the 1990s.
Not to mention the whole idea of an "untapped market". PoC, queer, etc. don't have representation in the media like white, het, males do. It marginalizes them for their entire lives while we have been catered to. Now, for just a moment, the paradigm shifts a little and you entitled fucks start to throw TANTRUMS.
KILL ALL WHITE PEOPLE
>>336460771
>MUH STATISTICS
I find it funny that the same people that preach "demographics" tend to be the fuckers who don't think psychology and sociology are as important as the "hard sciences".
>>336460778
https://youtu.be/Y69tkCbeC5o
>>336459320
Context?
The fuck is Drumpf?
THEY ARE NOT MORE INTERESTING BECAUSE GAME DEVELOPERS ALWAYS WHITEWASH OTHER RACES
Fuck this shit about 'more diversity brings more interesting stories' or whatever. Any black or brown character just ends up with white characteristics and white sensibilities, because writers don't know what the fuck they're doing these days.
They have a black main character and they set it in New York or some other shithole because they're lazy. Why not set it in Nigeria? Somalia? Jamaica? Cuba? Maybe then you'd have a more interesting story.
Though maybe not, because games rarely have decent stories anymore.
>>336460423
Is Bayonetta a POC?
>>336459480
>males aren't on average biologically stronger than females
Do these people actually believe this?
>>336459480
>because strength is not defined by sex or gender
Actually it is. Men are literally stronger then women biologically.
>pussy
Just a more offensive way of saying sissy, or 'scardey-cat" never thought it was about a vagina.
>bitch
It means female dog, you fucking idiot. It's like calling a dude a 'dog' as an insult. It in no way was about fremales being inferior
>no homo means being gy is bad
No, it just means "This dude is handsome, but I ain't gay tho".
Consider me triggered.
>>336460871
>And there are plenty of things stopping them. Money, lack of access to a white male dominated industry, being eternally bound to publishers who have not updated their social marketing rules since the 1990s.
Just have the negros make a indie game you nig nog.
Make your own content, dont go culturally appropriating ours.
>>336460871
Who the fuck is stopping anyone from accessing the industry holy shit.
>>336461005
>Why not set it in Nigeria? Somalia? Jamaica? Cuba?
last time they put black characters in africa they got called racist, rip re5
>>336458590
I remember loads of people complaining about playing as Dude McGruff long before SJWs bullied for diversity.
When he said its more "commercially viable" that should've ended all arguments.
You fools are trying to make it an SJW thing when its not, in the end its about the money, whites arent the only ones with money anymore.
Rockstar realized this a long time ago.
ZIMBABWE
>>336458590
I don't care about how the main cast looks as long as the main cast itself is competent and isn't filled to the brim with shallow characters just to pander to feminists who don't even play video games in the first place.
>>336458590
He says while wasting Nexon's money on a DoA project.
>>336459480
>"WE DON'T SAY DON'T BE A VAGINA"
o k
>>336461076
Why are you acting like these developers don't WANT to make PoC and women their lead characters? Why are you acting like they're giving in to some grand conspiracy?
Is it so unfathomable to you that other people of your race and gender have compassion and empathy? Are you devoid of all positive emotion for other people?
>>336460998
When Trump's great great grandpa came to America he changed his last name from Drumpf to Trump.
Current Year Man thinks it's funny.
>>336461046
>bitch just means female dog
and faggot just means bundle of sticks right
>>336460423
See, the thing is that 'White straight cis dude' is the normal and is relatable to the most people. They aren't going to be making any AAA games all about minorities because there's no one for the general public to relate to. I don't complain that there's no well-writtentranniesin games, because I know it's an incredibly small minority that that appeals to.
>>336458590
Thank god i never investet a penny in this shit show.
GG you fuck up console pesants. You feed SJW's and there subhuman spawn.
You made it. Now kill it.
>>336461037
>>336461046
I think it means strength of will, not physical strength as the term "man up" is usually associated with not bawling like a bitch boy and such things.
t. autist
>>336460871
>And there are plenty of things stopping them. Money, lack of access to a white male dominated industry, being eternally bound to publishers who have not updated their social marketing rules since the 1990s.
Independent development has made entry into the industry the easiest it has been in all of gaming history. It's not at all uncommon to see kick-starters funded if a great concept is put forward.
What exactly is hindering non-heterosexuals specifically from entering the industry that doesn't also apply to heterosexuals?
>>336461005
That kind of reminds me of Armonde Whites review of Creed and why he liked it.
In it he said Adonis talks and acts like a black man raised in the upper class society. He still retains his blackness unlike most other characters in movies who are what white people want to see as rich black people.
>>336460601
Eugenics now
>>336460821
Nothing whatsoever.
>>336460871
>No, actually, I'm not a bigot like you, thank you.
Then stop being a hyper-super-ultra-bigot by saying "Person of Colour" since it's virtually identical.
>And there are plenty of things stopping them.
Nick a white family's computer (since this is the typical way a South African procures resources in preference to working, in spite of the government's policy of simply firing a lot of whites across the board), get good at making games, write dat mf game, publish dat mf game on Steam or with a publisher or independently.
>lack of access to a white male dominated industry
So the response of a publishing house in a majority-black country is "Good heavens! We don't publish negro games here! Security, remove these miscreants immediately", is it?
This is fantastic bait, by the way. Very engaging.
>>336461086
The same shit that makes 90% of CEOs, Project Leads, VPs, etc of ALL companies WHITE, with WELL over 70% of them male.
Institutional racism and sexism are a thing and no matter how many tantrums you manchildren throw, progress is INEVITABLE.
>>336460871
> Money
If minorities don't even have money to make games (with plenty of engines and material for free), then surely my resources are better employed to the majority who actually has money.
>>336461271
See, you got it
>>336460871
Go back to your safespace, Quentin.
Africa was fucked not because of WHITE DEVIL, it was fucked by warring African warlords and in-fighting between neighbouring tribes. Dutch and British Colonialism brought valuable infrastructure like railway networks (now abandoned) and food plantations (now replaced with cash crops, eg Tobacco).
>PoC, queer, etc. don't have representation in the media like white, het, males do.
Setting your core demographic to a sparse group in a population will not result in business success.
>>336460948
literally what, your point being ... ?
>>336460998
Supposedly it's the actual last name of Trump's ancestors, and John "Current Year" Oliver started this "Make Donald Drumpf Again" in an attempt to belittle him since all the libtards can do is call him names.
>>336459480
Whoever made this needs to man up, and stop being a pussy bitch. This is so fucking gay.I would say something about one of the dudes, but they're all ugly nu-males so no way of using "No Homo".
>>336458590
>Bleszinski
Is there a lingering smell of bagels, or that's just me ?
>>336459480
Wow they really miss the problem here
These things are said to men and boys to reinforce a shitty ideal of masculinity. Yes these phrases put women and homosexuals down, but for the sole purpose of manipulating and shaping men.
Well all except "thats so gay" and "no homo". The former has full idiom status now that has nothing to do with gay people. The latter is for saying and doing suspiciously homosexual things tongue-in-cheek.
>>336458590
Jokes on him because I don't give a shit.
>>336461395
People in power only care about results.
>>336461005
What is RE5?
>>336461287
did you know you aren't defined by your race, sex, sexuality? You are defined by human characteristics. People relate to human characteristics and struggles.
Maybe YOU don't, because discussing racism probably makes you horribly uncomfortable. It's okay. It makes most white dudes uncomfortable. The key is to sit with that feeling, realize the world doesn't revolve around you, and empathize with the character's struggles even if they are different from your own.
That's what makes a good character. And a good story.
>>336461395
>>336461395
>Institutional racism and sexism are a thing
Imaginary victim complex for 100 Alex
>>336458590
Why can't people just be like BET.
They make mediocre shows but at least they make shows by black people for black people.
Instead of complaining a group of people actually went out and did something
>>336459480
Pussy as an insult literally comes from an old english word meaning 'to be cowardly' and has not a fucking thing to do with a woman's junk.
>>336461005
>Though maybe not, because games rarely have decent stories anymore.
Yes, back in the old days games had great stories.
Every generation's group of entitled babby conservatives looks to the nonexistent past for their golden age.
>>336460871
The POC market is small. The "gamer" AAA market is still white male and in the 30's. Hell I'm not white and I know the chances of someone making a game that has someone like me is slim to none. But at least games like Total overdose have a hispanic lead, prince of persia has a persian/arab. GTA San Andreas had a black lead. Shadowman, The Suffering has a half black and white protag named Torque and there is actually themes of racism in that game.
>>336460623
They don't have to make their own games, but why not ask for games to cater towards them? That's literally showing you're a marketable demographic.
>>336461473
What puts women, niggers, sandniggers and all others kinds of subhumans is genetic, mainly the ones tied to the brain.
>>336461243
No, I just grew up/live in a place where we do not have your shitty social justice. Here everyone just goes on with their day, and dont give a fuck about anyone no matter what color your dick or tits are.
There was even a survey done that showed that media here made up most of the discrimination shit and in reality my country with 90% white people dont give a fuck about where you are from or what you look like as long as you act like a fucking normal person.
Video games is not where you should start if you want to get rid of racism. Try making your monkeys act like people first.
It worked for us.
>>336461271
No, fagot is a bundle of sticks. But calling a woman a 'bitch' is calling her a female dog, because that was the original term of the word. It has literally never been about females being inferior.
>he's a fucking dog
>she's a fucking bitch
same shit.
>>336461395
What compelling evidence and statistics you have to back up your argument.
>>336461503
Yeah they say that, but then GASP they have internalized thoughts and prejudices. Just because they don't spend all day on 4chan reinforcing them doesn't mean they haven't been raised in an inherently racist and sexist society.
Admit you are sexist and racist. Admit you are wrong and you have taken the first step to showing compassion and empathy.
>>336461395
>The same shit that makes 90% of CEOs, Project Leads, VPs, etc of ALL companies WHITE, with WELL over 70% of them male.
False, they are in fact Jews. Trump is a Jew and so is every powerful conglomerate leaders in the US.
>>336461395
>"Hello GOG, we're interested in distributing our game through your channels. Please find attached a demonstrative build."
>"Your protagonist is gay and one of our staff discovered that someone on your team is gay. Sorry, no fags allowed."
>>336461512
> racism
The history of blaming everybody else for your own failures is actually a pretty good story. You should make AfricaOps: The Line, that should be a good game.
>>336461612
I think that anon was referring to the late 90s/early 2000s
>>336461303
>using le epic "t. x" meme
>calling other autists
Oh the ironing.
He can say this shit all he wants, but when AAA gaming is driven by white males they're going to have white males as the lead in those games, same with hollywood, only faggot indie shit will look like the united nations.
>>336461678
mup da doo didda
>>336461635
It really isn't small. The market that is small is the market that doesn't care about having more than white dudes in their games.
Thank you for finally answering my main question, though.
>>336461395
>men are more inclined to take risks
>men are more inclined to take leadership roles
>men are more likely to ask for pay rises
>women are often prone to starting families
>women are more likely to take supporting roles
>women are less like to ask for pay rises
I'm sorry you're trying to protest facts of life. Go look up sexual dimorphism.
>>336461678
Actually I just wanted to see whether you were just desperate for replies. It's sad in it's own way but at least it isn't as sad as being so far gone.
Have a good day anon.
>>336461681
We /pol/ now
>>336461736
>>336461656
Then why do people call men bitches, but never the opposite?
Also,
>fagot
that's the french writing.
>>336461704
Oh yes, who can forget the great epics of the 1990s.
>>336461445
>call him names
surely it's far worse than that. i mean they're mocking him because his ancestor changed his name to its english equivalent. can you imagine if leftists decided to mock some indian who changed his name from raheem to ryan? they're literally mocking a dumb ethnic-sounding name
>>336461752
Hollywood's dominated by Jews, as are its films.
You won't find virtue-signaling SJWs complaining about that.
>>336461395
>progress is INEVITABLE.
Ah that's alright then, you won't need to shoehorn "progress" in everywhere with tokens and artificiality.
>>336459719
>>half the dudes in games are Asian
Are they? Are they really? Show me the asians sir or madam.
>>336461652
Go back to your tiny, homogenized country and deal with the fact that it is inevitable that GASP
BROWN PEOPLE
will be there very soon. Progress and evolution is inevitable. Accept it or go extinct.
>>336461852
If you want to call female dogs men feel free, retard.
>>336461736
t. autist means he was calling himself an autist. "t." means "Regards," in Finnish.
>>336458590
Cliffy B reminds me of Nick Swardson or whatever the fuck his name is and it only makes me hate him more.
>>336458590
Games have really only been about humans, we should have games with more animals. Mix it up a bit
>>336461893
Go play Jap games
>>336461856
Are you saying Quake 3 was not excellent?
>>336461861
Lefties are getting pretty anti-Pole and anti-Austrian at the moment since they're not electing who the lefties want them to elect. Full blown bigotry from them.
>>336458590
Strong independant native american here. I like playing as white dudes in games, in fact i don't really give a fuck what race/gender whatever the fuck they are as long as the game is fun. Maybe these fucking idiots should focus all the energy they have on forcing diversity and channel it to gameplay.
>>336460423
lol 6 replies in and not one person has actually named any except for Bayonetta
y'all gettin' BTFO
>>336461856
I know, there were some greats
>>336461904
2/10
>>336461971
Quake 3 has the greatest video game story of all time.
>>336461893
>>336461958
>inb4 he claims they're white
>>336461928
I mean calling women dogs, you obtuse fuck.
>>336461904
Wut?
I said I dont mind them as long as they act like people?? Fucking who cares if you skin looks like milk or shit?
What is your post supposed to convey??
>>336461904
how the fuck does someone skin color mean they are gonna help progress jack shit? Also, has cliffy b done anything worthwhile recently other than talking gibberish?
>>336461852
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/fagot?s=t
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/faggot?s=t
>just saying things without facts to back them up
go back to tumblr.
>>336461780
It is really small. Here is a stat I love throwing at people. In the USA the total chinese population is 1%, how many of those play games? Total black population in the USA is 12.6 percent and only half of which are in prime target age for videogames. You live in a "white" man world.
>>336458590
>hurf durf, too much white, too much male
>lets pander! Yeah, thats the ticket!
>wait, why my game no sale? Must be those evil white males we shit all over.. for the greater good, of course!
I'm ready for the end. Maybe our muslim overlords will give us a quick death.
>>336460423
>the industry caters to the group that actually spends money on games
what a surprise
>>336461395
Yeah, it sure worker with rome and baghdad and algeria.
Oh, wait, all those civilisations collapsed and got shortly conquered after women got power.
Ah, but they were ignorant savages, WE are different, WE are smart, this will NOT happen to us :DDDDDDD
>>336460871
Like fish in a barrel. Enjoy your (You)s, you deserved them.
>>336462105
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/faggot
>>336461395
>progress is INEVITABLE.
That's why money will always be important. That's why PC bullshit will die in the vidya market no matter how many hipster award it gets.
>>336462089
Idk, ask the Swedish. 2 of their main political parties are pro-open-doors immigration.
>not white
>don't give two shits about the character's race or gender so long as the game is good
>people make things that reflect their surrounding/history/experience
This so hard to grasp?
>but muh diversity
Fuck off
>>336458590
Get your racial politics out of my video games.
Honestly I'm tired of tumblr speaking on behalf of "People of color" and then telling me I intermalize racism when I don't blame Whitey for my shortcomings. Any opportunity that I fucked up, any bad decisions made aren't a result of oppression. They are because of shitty judgement. Maybe there is someone who would stop at nothing to make me fail but so far I haven't met him.
>tl:dr
Fuck off SJW's I don't need you to protect me from imaginary racism.
jap games can be diverse, why don't sjwcucks ever give them credit?
>>336461943
Which is a stupid forced /int/ meme
>>336461997
I bet you haven't even played No One Lives Forever.
>>336462025
Maybe you should stick to Sunset.
>>336462234
Also, why are white people intent on eating themselves?
>>336461985
I feel sorry for your race.
Everytime they appear in movies or tv being a native always plays such a heavy part of their role.
>>336461752
>only faggot indie shit will look like the united nations
Did you see the Force Awakens?
>>336462003
You should read a book sometime.
>>336461786
>baby's first attempt at objective reasoning
Yeah, people are different down to the genetic level and so will do different things with their lives, thanks Sherlock. The numbers will never be even for every race and gender and we shouldn't force it.
But you have to be a total retard to think those differences account entirely on their own to the 70-90% disparities. Like there's no such thing as plain old bias in these hierarchies. I mean, you see how dumb it would be to pretend that doesn't exist, right?
>>336461512
But the idea is that people can relate FAR more easily to people with the same background or identity as them, because they can empathize better and feel better having someone represent the group they belong to. I'm not saying it's impossible to empathize with a character not the same race/gender/sexuality/etc as you, just that its easier if the player and character share a common ground, and these are the hot topics lately. If 'you aren't defined by your race/gender/sex' were something people naturally understood, we wouldn't have most of the drama we have now with LGBT in games, because people should be able to empathize with any character. But we like to see people like ourselves. It's why most people make characters that look like themselves in games.
I'm not trying to start an argument, just explaining why I think the complaint about diversity is a silly one.
>>336460423
>Nigs
Garcian Smith (Killer 7)
CJ (GTASA)
Washington (HOD: Overkill)
Lee (Walking Dead)
>Lady Nigs
Holy shit did we already forget about Jade (BG&E)
>Queers
Max (Life is Strange)
Shep (ME)
I guess if we count Shep we can count Kamui (FE IF)
Guess you can also count Jimmy (Bully)
Fucken Gay Tony
Ellie (TLOU)
And if I listed just female protagonists without the rest of the diversity checklist we'd be here all damn day
>>336461904
>59-75 IQ nignogs
>progress and evolution
2/10
>>336462334
That is an old trope. Magical negro is the classic also magical native or noble savage.
>>336458862
>Every time I hear claims that games are full of "white dudes" I never see any hard stats that back up the claim.
The funny thing is that it's always white dudes saying that. The white guilt is strong. But the desire to make money is even stronger.
>>336462252
Because they hate Japanese.They don't conform to them so they're an honorary white cis race
>>336461861
There is nothing ethnic about it because he is white.
Didn't you know, there is nothing ethnic or cultural about white people regardless of where they live on the planet. All white people are the same. Only minorities can be ethnical or have culture and to say otherwise is racist.
>>336462053
You should really learn what the word "opposite" means. Also you call women curs.
>we need more black characters!
>write them as the same shaved headed characters they would have been if white
>nothing black about them
video game writing is complete shit tier
>>336461904
>Progress and evolution is inevitable
explain niggers
>>336459480
gee I wonder why there's not one about "don't be a dick"
>>336462352
there isn't bias, women and minorities are just lazy
it's the same leap of logic you are asking us to take with your assertion so it should be no problem for you to accept it
>>336462227
I would but I'm afraid to go to Sweden and get jihaded
>>336461445
Also, calling "Caitlyn" Jenner Bruce is hatespeech, since we should respect that Bruce identifies himself as a woman.
But Donald Trump's ancestor identifying himself as an American? Fuck that guy, right?
>>336462484
Sorry, I didn't realize I was talking to someone from the 19th century.
>>336462261
It's from KC and yli
>>336462405
Don't these people also think Samus is a Lesbian
>>336462597
>>336462252
Nips expect people to work, and nip women maintain femininity. Neither of these things are acceptable.
>>336461642
Didn't you know, white men have to do everything for these people. White men should be the one supplying these people with their games (tv shows, films, books and all forms of media and culture).
You think these poor racial minorities should have to create their own things? That's fucking racist dude.
Tbh keeping shit forced is absolutely irritating, but even then with shit like The Witcher having unique settings and writing due to it being polackshit makes it pretty chill.
Fuck forcing diversity, but if you're naturally going to make a setting foreign and unique for justified reasons, do it. Just like Pyre.
>>336462536
Laziness have no tie to IQ scores, and the notion is ridiculous with g scores.
Inferiority is entirely related to intelligence, even a lazy underachiever that isn't sub100IQ whose contribution to society is nullat least do not go on the streets and do crimes or go push for the crreation of affirmative actions laws reducing competitiveness and slowing the economy to a probable crash.
Black people make up 13.2%.
For there to be equal racial representation in games.
There needs to be 13.2% black protagonists in all games. Set in the US or a imaginary space place colonized by the US.
>>336458806
But they have the best games and budgets
>>336461445
Which is silly since you really just have to point to how wishy washy he is on stance on anything. His campaign has so much material to work with and you settle on namecalling?
>>336462806
Not really. We can go beyond, up to 40% if prison population is any indication !
#IfPrisonWhyNotVidya
>>336460423
>Female PoC?
>PoC at all?
Pretty much any japanese game
>>336462782
No, white nigger, you're garbage too. Even if you have a 99 IQ. You do in fact cause the majority of crimes in majority-white nations and are responsible for the majority of social insurance programs in majority-white nations.
>>336461958
Let's see, just a few of the jap games I have played
Vanquish
Metal Gear Solid - all of them
Bayonetta
Ninja Gaiden - all of them
DOA/DOAX - all of them except DOAX3
Final Fantasy VI-Lightning Returns
Street Fighter II - V
Phantasy Star II-Online
Space Harrier
Outrun
Wonderful 101
Super Mario
Punch Out
Legend of Zelda
Metroid
Nintendo shit!!! most of it
I have been gaming for 33 years, so I have been playing Jap games all my life. So again, show me the asians. I am not opposing anything but I don't remember playing as any asians who actually look asian besides Wei Shen and some japanese dudes in fighting games like E Honda and such, I think the reason v won't understand this is because v likes to play JAPANESE games, games that don't leave japan and so you see many asians in games,
>>336458590
>cliff so irrelevant he has to spout bullshit to get noticed
You've really let yourself go here cliff.
>>336459835
>There is no default.
If there's no default you don't need to justify deviating from the default.
>>336462597
>>336462482
>>336461861
>>336461445
it was meant as a joke guys. You are being just as bad as tumblr right now by taking something that was blatantly said for laugh and letting it trigger you to no end.
calm down people
>these white boi tears
LOL
>>336459072
I think in general it's a bit better to add a diverse cast, ethnicity is just one of the modes to do do.
Its just people get angry when it's ethnicity.
>>336458590
Its quite true. A lot of games set in alt universes or far futures or whatever just happen to lack people that aren't white males.
That's just the way it is.
>>336460871
>>336461395
>>336460423
I understand you're trolling and everything, but be careful. You're starting to get lost in your irony to the point where you might actually believe this insanity that you're spewing.
>>336462981
If there's no default then it's impossible to "deviate".
>>336462923
Japanese doesn't count as non-white enough because asians don't need any super special extra treatment and support in civilized society
>>336462806
The world doesn't revolve around your country or its percentages.
>>336462923
jap games don't count for sjws
>>336462994
>pointing out hypocrisy is now being triggered
nah
>>336461861
Really? People are making fun of Trump for something he didn't do himself and was something his ancestor thought would help his family assimilate to the new country? There's so much you can make fun of Trump for, especially his inconsistent political stances, but they settled on a change of his surname a few generations back?
>>336462806
>in all
No, it's of all. Of all to represent. Therefore were doing a pretty good job.
>>336459924
Barret was a token black character in ff7, as was Sazh. Both, however, weren't hamfisted black characters. Their defining characterizations weren't central around their skin. They were black, but more importantly they were black people.
>>336462949
Not for long since whites in white country are soon to be a minority.
And considering the rate per capita of all those statistics... ;^)
By the way, South africa is about to steal land from whites. How long until they beg "The Farmer" to come back so that they stop starving like in zimbabwe ?
Frankly, the thought that south africa was a nuclear power ! And not so long ago !
Incredible how inferiority can be denied so fervently.
>>336459835
>Newsflash, white guys historically do shit
you need to learn some more history then. There is a whole world outside of europe where shit happens and has been happening for quite some time
>>336463073
Exactly the point. Why shouldn't every character be a gay black trans woman?
>>336462968
Just because they don't look Asian doesn't mean they aren't Asian
>>336459464
It's not racist, to include more brown people so brown fans can feel cozy.
That's the reason so many games have been about tough bland white looking guys, so we can roleplay. He's just saying if there were more tough bland brown looking guys
>>336460871
>Not to mention the whole idea of an "untapped market". PoC, queer, etc.
Oh please, minorities have been buying games forever because they want to play a fucking video game for the gameplay not for the character represented. Fuck the most popular games of all time have player characters that aren't even humanoid (Pac Man, Pong, Tetris) and the highest selling game in the past 10 years, Wii Sports, can literally have any skin tone and player customization and yet people bought it for wagglin and for FUCKING GAMEPLAY.
Nobody gives a shit about representation aside from attention whoring socjus Liberal Art students who probably don't even play games outside of AAA dudebro trash anyways. Take your retarded argument and shove it up your ass.
>>336462994
Wasn't any of those people, but I'm pretty sure they're just pointing out the hypocrisy, not taking a stance against calling him Drumpf.
>>336462949
>You do in fact cause the majority of crimes in majority-white nations
Damn, really?
>>336463253
Because homogenous casts are boring
>>336462923
In the context of Americuckery, Person of Color means Black.
>>336463183
What inconsistent political stances.
They attack his name because that's all there is to attack.
I understand why you people are so scared.
Billionaire.
No skeletons in the closet.
Cannot be bribed.
Actually want his nation to survive this century.
Shit, he's your nightmare incarnated !
Repeat after me : PRÉSIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP
Trying to set up rss on phone, is there any vidya or tech related news site worth following? Besides p4rgaming.
>>336463253
Because majority don't relate to any of those and no money can be get from such a demographic.
>>336461547
>>336463267
So how am I supposed to know if they don't look asian or state that they are asian? DOA states each character's nationality, so I know there but what about games that don't do that, like Vanquish or Final Fantasy?
I think more diverse casts will show up, but just like Hollywood the lead will nearly always be white because even minorities don't want to identify with other minorities.
>>336459480
>pussy
>bitch
That's a cat and a dog though.
>>336460139
I believe the point is that while your statement is quite reasonable on its face and i very much agree with it, in practice there doesn't seem to be an acceptable setting unless its super stereotypical. I mean cmon, have you not seen all sorts of benign stuff get labeled as sjw or tumblr by people on /v/ for having a few minorities or mentioning gayness or some shit?
In practice its just more complicated then you make it out to be
>>336461395
Man, it's easy to make excuses these days, isn't it? Lack of talent, but black? Just blame racism!
>>336463374
Doesn't that mean there's a de facto default?
>>336463183
Self-evidently, the reason that people can only attack him personally and call him names (like "Drumpf" and that perennial favourite, "racist") is that his political stances are actually solid.
>>336461419
>Setting your core demographic to a sparse group in a population will not result in business success.
POC just means people of color. By that definition white people are the sparse group in the population.
>>336463271
>roleplay
No you stupid shit. It's because generic white dude is the least offensive person type you can choose. No white person roleplays as these people unless they are mentally unstable and judging by your >we, that means you.
>>336460423
infamous 2
>>336462681
Someone still goes to KC?
>>336463345
Will be really funny when he cucks you. Face it, white boi, you don't have a homeland anymore, you lost it when your ancestors decided to rape and murder the whole world to satisfy their satanic urges.
>>336463374
Majority don't mean shit anymore, white cucks like you are going to die out soon.
>>336459072
I liked how in Xcom EU every soldier is supposedly one of the best of the best from their country, sent to join you.
The game wouldn't have been any better or worse if every soldier was john from America though. It's visual flavor-text at best.
>>336458590
Fucking self hating white
>>336460423
>>336463565
meant prototype 2
ITT: Tumblrtards & trolls trigger /v/ again. If you ignored them, they'd go the fuck away, faggots
>>336463530
Yes, wherever the biggest dollar maker is, that's the de facto
>>336463427
>So how am I supposed to know if they don't look asian or state that they are asian?
Maybe if you understand the reasoning behind the design choices and some eye features and tone features in comparison to an actual white characters in that same art style.
Also please work on your inability to not be offended by anything you can't contextualize, it makes you look like a fucking retard.
>>336463549
Or that they're so devoid of actual content to criticise that there's not much left to do besides mockery.
>>336463619
The best of the best has higher than a 65% chance shot of hitting someone 5 feet away. XCOM is about getting a grab-bag of bullshit because no one actually believes in the project, which is exactly why including tons of countries makes sense.
