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>Give in to popular opinion
>Buy an Advance Wars game [Dual Strike]
>I'm now on Mission 9 and I'm loving it

WHY THE FUCK AREN'T NINTENDO MAKING MORE OF THIS SHIT?!
I would buy an Advance Wars themed 3DS/N3DS and collectors editions of the games.
I would even buy amiibo of the little tanks!
FUCK!
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>>336403986
>WHY THE FUCK AREN'T NINTENDO MAKING MORE OF THIS SHIT?!
Waifu Emblem sells more.
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because they tried pandering to westerners with days of ruin and it backfired.

just like battalion wars, advance wars is yet another series that IS has shelved away.
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>>336404125
>>336404140
But surely they saw the potential in it?

A Wii U build would've been great with the whole second screen thing doing on.
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>>336403986

Its a good series that had a decent amount of good installments. Play them, have fun, and be glad this isn't an IP they decided to run into the ground.
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>>336404252
I only started it today and I've already picked up another one for GBA on ebay. This is exactly the kind of game I've been looking for. I would love to see a modern iteration of it.
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>>336403986
GBA ones are the best, play those.
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The ONLY con about AW as a series among the sea of pros is that the time between a game being decided and being over is too fucking long.
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>>336404415
>modern iteration has dating sim features

how would you feel?
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>>336404140
Days of ruin was good though
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>>336403986
>I would buy
Sadly. The last two games had not enough people buying.
Own the 4 handheld games myself. Would like a new one

>But surely they saw the potential in it?
They saw less potential in it than FE and the Wii-U didn't even get that
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>>336404140
>because they tried pandering to westerners with days of ruin and it backfired.
Because they didn't realize Westerners liked it the way it was.
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>>336404460
Got one on ebay today!

>>336404476
I know what you mean already, but that's the nature of a great many strategy games.

>>336404549
Not entirely opposed to the notion. Some of the characters are cute and I can see getting to know them more having an interesting effect in-game if perma death were a thing.
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Days of Ruin is the best game in the series
>but the story!
No one plays Advance Wars for the story.
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Would /v/ consider Valkyria Chronicles in the same vein as Advanced Wars?

They both had the same feel to me.
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>>336404791
I somewhat like DoR's Story.
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>>336404140
>because they tried pandering to westerners with days of ruin and it backfired.
Isn't dor the second best selling game?
Mind you that's still less than 500k or so, but the series never had huge numbers.
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>>336404831
I think they're quite different, but VC is badass
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Man, just imagine the miniatures and toy that shit could sell if it was pushed to everyone like Nintendo does with other franchises...

I'd buy every single vehicle toy from it.
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>>336403986
This is literally the most useful CO in the game and essential in the final mission unless you want it to be a pain in the ass. Don't do Grit's mission with him.
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>>336404871
>Isn't dor the second best selling game?
No, but it did sell more than DS despite there being no Japanese release of DoR.
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>>336404998
Right?
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>>336404998
It's just asking for army men toys
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>>336405027
Truth be told, I haven't really paid attention to my CO. Is that a bad move?
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>>336405041
DoR sold more than AWDS

I hated DoR's shitty grimdark setting and characters. I also much preferred DS's advance wars Power creep CO powers.
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>>336404998
>>336403986
Is this how Nintendo fans' minds unironically operate?

>dude this game is so good why aren't there toys of it

How old are you people?
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>>336404562
They stated FE on Wii U would need to sell 700k to break even, which means they weren't confident it'll do that. Or it was in development, and moved to NX
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>>336405180
Right now you're using Nell it seems. Nell is the CO you're forced to use on the tutorial missions so it doesn't matter much.

For the main campaign you use either Andy, Max or Sami. you get to choose between the three on each mission you do and they also unlock over time (you start out with Andy). Generally the choice matters more for the route you take rather than choosing the CO for stats. For example early on the game pushes really hard for you to use Max against Grit in a certain mission but if you do you get Grit in the final mission instead of Max which is fucking terrible because Max is much better for that final mission. Theres also a string of missions you can do with Sami to unlock a different CO on the right side in the final mission.

Basically pay attention to the routes you're taking.

Also I was serious about Max being OP in AW1, his directs have insane power in that game and he basically buttblasts anyone else's tanks with his. He gets nerfed in the second game so enjoy it while you can.
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>>336404125
>FE sells about the same as AW on GBA and DS
>Shadow Dragon does poorly enough to not bring over FE12
>Awakening gets lucky by releasing when there was literally no SRPG or JRPG competition on 3DS in every region (except a port of Tales of the Abyss)
>LETS ABANDON ADVANCE WARS WITHOUT GIVING IT A SHOT ON 3DS!
I bet they're even going to use Wii U VC sales as reason to not make a new AW game now.

>>336404140
Days of Ruin sold about as well as the AW1 and 2, and it sold better than Dual Strike.
However, it sold ZERO copies in Japan because they fucked over the release and that's all Nintendo cares about.

>>336404871
Third best selling, but the difference wasn't that big.
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IS is shelving anything that isn't fire emblem these days.

look at codename steam. as soon as that got the patch that fast-forwarded enemy turns it objectively became a near flawless set of game mechanics.

will IS take this, deal with some balance issues, put it on a bigger scale and put it under a generally more pleasing aesthetic? hell no.

i'd kill to use !Sami in a codename steam successor.
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>>336403986
Nintendo is developing a serious allergy to good ideas.
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>>336405716
Sorry, the picture I used in the OP was just a google pic. I'm on Mission 9 of Dual Strike. I have some girl in a uniform with dark hair and the big strong guy with blue hair. We're fighting against a flying fortress..

>>336405608
I'm 28 and I collect figures and the like.
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>>336403986
Its my favorite game of ALL TIMES OP. ALL FUCKING TIMES.

I hope you enjoy it. I still put hours to DS.
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>>336404747
>Because they didn't realize Westerners liked it the way it was.
This describes most of the modern Japanese games they bother to localize.

>change everything
>oh it didn't sell, guess we won't bother releasing any more of them lol 2much effort
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Did they ever give lifetime sales figures of the AW games?
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>>336405729

Don't be salty, every SRPG except Fire Emblem has completley collapsed and Fates will probably outsell the 1st Final Fantasy Tactics by the end of the year.
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>>336406049
Oh nevermind then. If its DS then choose CO's strategically based on their stats because the missions don't differ based off selection.

It sounds like you have Colin already. He's pretty much overpowered for any map that has a large amount of factories so take advantage of his combo with sasha, make money then pound everything with his scop.
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Advanced Wars is too complicated.
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>>336406049
>not playing them in order

DS is gonna spoil you for AW1, especially on the music side and mechanics side.
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>>336404562
>They saw less potential in it than FE and the Wii-U didn't even get that
>implying this isn't a Fire Emblem game
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>>336403986
Nintendo doesn't care about it's best franchises
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>>336403986
>I would even buy amiibo of the little tanks!
I fucking want this. Or one of Andy and his over-sized wrenches
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Fire Emblem Fates let the player use generic units. They might just make a different mode in a FE game that plays more like Advance Wars.
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>>336405821
>will IS take this, deal with some balance issues, put it on a bigger scale and put it under a generally more pleasing aesthetic? hell no.

If a game sells like shit what backwards moonlogic would make you think there'd be a sequel with an expanded scope and with better graphics?
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>>336405821
It's a bit hard to blame them about not making a sequel either direct or spiritual when Codename Steam bombed so incredibly hard, but it's not really IS's decision to make. It's up to whether or not Nintendo wants to put up the cash for them to do something like that again.
Then again, Nintendo paid up for Steel Diver: Sub Wars.
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>wanting nu-Nintendo to ruin AW after Zip-Lash and SF Zero
i bet you want Metroid 5/Prime 4 and F-Zero NX
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>>336406049
use Rachel in the bottom and Max on top. Send every single bomber and fighter to the top map and set Max to be aggressive, he'll finish the top map the fastest out of all your current selections.

Use Colin on any factory heavy mission, he will always be objectively the best choice for any mission with a large amount of factories unless your opponent starts with a larger force than you or your teams are split.
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>>336406262
The only reason Fates might outsell Awakening is due to there being multiple versions. Sales were frontloaded in NA and slowed down significantly after a few weeks.

And go fuck yourself. You know damn well Fire Emblem collapsed as well until they went full otaku pandering.
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>>336406297
says you senpai
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The only problem with this series is that every game looks worse then the previous one. Except for Days of Ruin.
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>>336406419
day one pirate
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>>336403986
>sprites
>tactics
>animu characters

Advance Wars is the best. I'll never understand why it has been so snubbed, but I secretly know any reboot would do what waifu emblem did and cut the sexy sprites in favor or garbage 3d.
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>>336406419
I'm glad that piece of shit flopped. They thought the Fire Emblem name was stronger than it really is, and was expecting it to carry the game.
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Because the market isnt there.

That's why
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>>336406480
Girt + rockets = devastation.
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>>336406873
Man. They didn't even know what they wanted to do with the concept for three years.

They wanted to be something like Pokemon Conquest..but that already came out so nope.
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>>336406584
>>336406523

i suppose that was kind of retarded. sorry.
i mean, fair enough, i forget that the reason why something bombs itself never really goes back to the devs.

fuck, codename steam was so fun. why did they have to bury it under a horrendous aesthetic.
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>>336406721
>The only reason Fates might outsell Awakening is due to there being multiple versions

You're a retard. and in denial. It was outselling Awakening 5 to 1 and it already sold more in the first month than Awakening did in its first year.

Between Japan the rest of Asia and the US the game is at 1.84 million not even including the DLC. Fates makes Awakening's sales look miniscule and Awakening made the other Fire Emblem sales look miniscule.
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>>336406523
>If a game sells like shit what backwards moonlogic would make you think there'd be a sequel with an expanded scope and with better graphics?
They did it with their baby, FE.
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>>336406049
>I'm 28 and I collect figures and the like.
Are you married yet?
Do you have a girlfriend?
Have you at least had sex?

I'm two years younger than you and I've already started a family. I can't believe people my age play with toys.
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>>336407298
and another reason why it should stay dead

BUT TOO LATE, IS is already brainstorming up an AW that would change everything
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>>336406262
But it's true. There's no reason Awakening should have sold as well as it did other than a starved audience.
It sold about double of what the previous game did in Japan despite that game introducing the non-permadeath feature and the player character as well as having a much larger player base.

>>336407076
I think it wasn't the in-game graphics that turned people off, but rather just the box art and with its similarity to Rescue Heroes.
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>>336407546
Why do you even care?
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>>336407546
>Are you married yet?
No.

>Do you have a girlfriend?
We're three years going strong.

>Have you at least had sex?
Indeed.

I have no real want of starting a family. And it's irrelevant to the conversation. What you can or can't believe is of no interest to me.
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>>336407741
That's a no to all three I guess.
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>>336407298

That's different since FE is their signature series in a way and at one point did have some appeal. Codename: S.T.E.A.M never had the opportunity to be anything but a failure.

I think beyond retooling Codename: S.T.E.A.M and attaching it to something successful. e.g. turning it into a squad based Splatoon spin-off. Codename: S.T.E.A.M is beyond saving, it even has the problem of having a reputation of being a shitty game despite being good.
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>>336407843
You didn't answer my question.
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>>336407741
he has obsession autism
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>>336407546
>Being this mad over someones hobbies
I pity your "family" you dour fuck
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>>336407637

the box art IS the in game graphics.

>>336407551

fuck it, i'll take it.
the actual gameplay of the Nohr rout in fates makes me at least confident they're still capable of doing good.
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>>336407829
the white race is dying and you have "no real want of starting a family" because it might cut into your toy budget

sort your priorities out dude
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>>336403986

Sami and Eagle were the most OP combo to ever exist.
So many victories that could happen in just one proper attack.
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>>336407971
>the white race is dying
Oh jesus, sorry I didn't know I was talking to a shitposting retard.

C'mon now my sweet, take your little "family" and go play white power somewhere else.
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Am I the only person who loves DoR's story?
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>>336407971
>the white race is dying
Not my problem
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>>336407887

all it needs to do is retool it around an anime/advance wars aesthetic and add a tagline akin to "from the creators of fire emblem". it's worth a fucking try.
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>>336408167
I seriously hope your girlfriend leaves you for a black man you infantile nu male
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>>336403986
and DS is the 2nd worst one to release in the west, wait untill you get AW2 and DoR
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>>336407935
The colors are much darker in-game and the cover has nonsensical perspective.
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>>336407971
How many sons do you have right in this very moment?
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>>336407971
>sort your priorities out dude
says the guy arguing about toys on a korean cooking site
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They'll make an AWxFE, but it'll turn out to be unrelated to either game.
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So did the neotanks hurt or help the balance?
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>>336408167
and /v/ thinks cuckposting isn't real
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>>336408502
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>>336408347
lmao
the white race won't die out even if every white woman has a kid with a nigger
the white genes are still proliferating, they don't just disappear, idiot
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>>336408347
Literally the funniest thing I've seen today.
This isn't even shit posting, it's legit comedy.
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>>336403986
>WHY THE FUCK AREN'T NINTENDO MAKING MORE OF THIS SHIT?!
Because the consumer only cares about Mario and Zelda, and then turns around and gets mad that Nintendo only makes Mario and Zelda.

Nintendo has a tonne of great hidden gems like Advance Wars, people just ignore them because, again, they weren't Mario or Zelda
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>>336408558
>Nazifag doesn't know what cuck means
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>>336408453
1 daughter
1 other child on the way

I'm doing my racial duty while enjoying vidya. The rest of you need to put down the toys and pick up the slack
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>>336408167
/pol/shit still somehow manages to make its way into an advance wars thread.
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>>336404998
>AW amiibos
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>>336408608
regression to the mean

half "white" is essentially full black
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>>336408783
Read a biology book, Cletus.
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I had the biggest crush on Sami. Petite redhead tomboy who loves guns. She was like the perfect girl. Her focus was infantry. I wonder if she ever let her men gang bang her to boost their morale. So perfect.
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>>336408868
>miscegenate me more!
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>>336408868
>yes goyim, read my book! race is just a social construct!
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Days of Ruin is my favorite AW game. Fight me.

I'd love some AW style games with multiplayer for PC. There are plenty of military RTS, but I don't care about those. Turn-based strategy games are much more fun.
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>>336408783
>half "white" is essentially full black
>full black
nigga u dum
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>>336408347
>>336407971
>>336407546

>26 year old newlywed acting like he's master of marriage and relationships while giving people shit for waiting until they're ready to get married

Would you rather your dad be some 26 year old or a 30 year old who's experienced more? And figurine collection is the new dad's train set or coin collection, not necessarily impressive but people have their hobbies
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Are these games hard?
I've wanted to get AW1 on the eShop for awhile, but I don't want to get a frustratingly difficult game that I'll suck at

The only tactics games I've played are FE7 and FFT
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>>336409201
mixed race children don't retain the traits of their parents 50/50
that's not how biology works
if a black has an iq of 80 and a white has an iq of 100, the child doesn't have an iq of 90
In most cases he reverts to the 80 iq of the black side

Race mixing is pissing your genetics away
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>>336408913
>>336409008
>paranoid bigots enforcing their own brand of political correctness over an entire site while whining about imaginary persecution and fictitious existential threats
/new/ has slowly turned this place into mirror-tumblr
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Don't really get the hype. Played the first game for a while and it didn't really interest me. Are the DS ones better?
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>>336408691

And this guy is developing his relationship into something worth of raising a child within. What's your problem? Do I need to get Chad in here to tell you that your interest in a Tonka-themed army-men digital board game featuring child generals makes you an unfit father?
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>>336408534

They hurt the balance because they outperformed every other tank unit in almost every situation.
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>>336409362
not really. I've always found missions look pretty tough when you first see them but once you get into it they become very manageable.
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>>336409362

No they're not all that hard, you just have to get used to really checking if a move is safe. The game's also very fast if you turn of effects so losing isn't all that much of a waste.
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>>336409391
But you do inherit literally 50% of each parent's genes. That's how it works.
>In most cases he reverts to the 80 iq of the black side
what the fuck
I'd love to see you attempt to find a source for this shit.
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Which Advance Wars should i get?
I have a 3DS.
Never played before.
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>>336408672
This, but the reason for this is that's all Nintendo bothers to market nowadays, the safe risk shit. Go back to looking at GameCube ads and compare them to the ads we got now. Nintendo needs to purge and reformed there Pr and marketing balance, right now they only care about PR more and that's not enough to sell shit
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>>336407208
>not even including the DLC

nintendo lists sales of of 780K in their pdf for Japan but has it around 550K in their chart sourced by Media create

kinda unlikely it still has 200K+ unsold Fates carts on the shelves in japan.
and considering japan is not too fond of buying digital only. Fates DLC routes seem likely to be included as a sale
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>>336410001
Just start with the first GBA one
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>>336410001
if you only have a 3ds you're stuck with the ds games. I'd suggest picking up days of ruin and returning to the other ds game, dual strike once you've played the gameboy ones.
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>>336410001
first Advance Wars if you care about the plot.
Dual Strike if you like Clusterfucks and fighting Overpowered vs Overpowered.
Days of Ruin/Dark Conflict if you like balance and a darker themed story than the original has.
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Which CO has the best theme song?
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>>336403986
Because Nintendo hates Westerners and what they like. See: Metroid, Advance Wars

If something is popular in America and Nintendo didn't intend for it to be a flagship, they cut support for it. They hate you and your taste.
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>>336412028
Von Bolt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohE7W9inMA4
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>>336407991
>Eagle

I found it funny that characters like Grimm or Max had better air units than him even though it was his "specialty".

He's probably one of the worst CO's just because of that ridiculous meter.
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>>336407991
play aganist Olaf and Drake and say that again.
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>>336413401

those 2 were just obnoxious. Both of their powers exist just to piss you off
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While Dark Conflict was a great game, I still feel AW lost all the charm it had. All the coloured styled toys were change for brown andit looked boring.
They also threw into the trash the wide roster of characters that everyone loved and the knew ones were plain boring, except for Tabitah.
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Reminder that this CO exists.
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>>336412028
Grit
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>>336413953

existed for singleplayer FOW maps

don't understand what IS expected her to do in multiplayer
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>>336412028
Hawke or Jake, which is funny because people always compared Jake to Andy when DS first came out saying how he didn't fit as a protagonist at all or whatever. I liked him a bunch, he's one of my favorite COs to this day.

Honorable mentions to Sturm and Flak.
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>>336412467
Hawke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2A8FP0jbiA
special mention to grimm though since hawkes theme in DS is bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2A8FP0jbiA
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>>336414226
whups
>>336412028
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>>336412028

tied for Jess, Sami and Nell.
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>>336412165
No it's sorta the opposite all Nintendo does is make stuff with west in mind. Thier marketing overseas, mostly NoA, is incompetent and too lazy to market shit that doesn't sell it's self
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>>336412028
Eagle, Sasha or Rachel
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>>336404140
Days of Ruin was infinitely better in every way.

Dual strike is nowhere near as good, when did this meme start that Dual strike is somehow the better strategy game.

>Hurr Durr its brown therefor its bad
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>>336414671
>implying people play Advance Wars because they want a balanced strategy game
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>>336414671

not him, but i've never actually played it
i'm waiting for it to re-release on virtual console on the wii U, seeing as all the others are there i'm hoping it follows suit.
if they can put shit like shadow dragon and star fox command there, there's no reason to not do this.
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Dual Strikers was my favorite, have fun OP. Not really balanced, but it was hella fun.

Days of Ruin kind of lost my interest. Grimdark AW seemed to big of a difference for me, I liked the upbeat/mostly lighthearted tone more
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>>336403986
they decided to made a shitty meme game that no one wanted instead of the 3DS AW game because they are retarded.
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>>336414825
This, although it's stupid. The thing about most advance wars fans they only care the art direction not gameplay in the slightest
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>>336415074
someone post the awkward zombie comic
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>>336414671
Days of ruin is more balanced and needs more strategy to play, in dual strike you can choose 2 broken CO's and obliterrate your opponent with no effort.
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>>336407971
>Talks about starting a family to "protect the white race"

Literally every person who does this online is pic related. If you actually did lose your virginity, which is doubtful, it was either because of incest or to a seacow.
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>>336414974
>>336414974
My problem is that there is literally no difference between the factions except for the general powers.

On top of that Black Hole are intentionally designed to be overpowered for the story so you have 4 factions that are literally identical except for one which is really OP.

Days of Ruin cut all that shit out and put a much needed buff to Navy units, I got more millage out of the carriers in that game then I think I ever did in the old Advance Wars.

Ontop of that the story, the characters and the setting is much better.
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Intelligent Systems as a whole is being fucking retarded.
>no Advance Wars
>Fire Emblem went to shit
>Paper Mario is now identified as "Action-Adventure"
What went wrong?
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>>336415407
But it's fun fun
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Call me old fashioned but I always found Advanced Wars bright/cheerful/bloodless depiction of war a bit unsettling. A product from a society that hasn't had to fight a war for 70 years.
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>>336407546
Who does your wife fuck when you're at work? Are your kids ashamed their dad shitposts on /v/?
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>>336414131
Didn't her power also give her the Mistwalker effect?
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Did you play with or without fog of war for multiplayer?
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>>336415426
But Blue Moon had all the best COs.
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>>336412028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV-ULQEsdcg
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>>336408534
They did pretty much nothing since they were useless unless you were Colin or Hachi.
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>>336416274
Advance Wars needed either Galeforce from Fire Emblem or MAPWs from Super Robot Wars.
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>>336416274
Couldn't that be fixed by upping the money per property per day and reducing the number of bases/airports/ports?
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>>336412028

Sensei, Max and Jake.
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I've never played Advanced Wars but I love how the units look.
I'd buy little figures of them.
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>Advance Wars will never go full waifu
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>>336417319
>I'll never be able to pair my self-insert with Lash.

Legitimately can't think of a reason to live.
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>>336404125
If they did advance wars with the waifu deal...Imagine...
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>>336403986
Because it doesn't sell. AW has NEVER sold all that well, especially in Japan.

That and there's no way to revitalize it with waifus like FE so it's probably not going to happen any time soon.

And if they do make a game, it'll be one of those situations where they try to promote it, but sales will flounder, so they won't ever make a game after that.

Shame too, b/c it's underrated as fuck and I like it way more than FE.
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>>336406297
If anything, it's less complicated than FE. Inherently so because it's not an RPG and doesn't rely on RNG to the same extent.
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>>336417791
>customizable My CO
>Dual Strike system combined with support system
I'd play it.
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>>336414671
Except content.
>there will never be an AW game with not-shit navy, War Room, online play, a lot of custom map slots, CO levelling up, and actually difficult hard mode
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>>336418443
yeah, I think it could work well. Dual Strike already had the individual-CO-leveling-up thing, as well as the tag powers getting better support for units the game shipped together (like Sami and Eagle).

And it was all optional, too.
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>>336418678
Admiral Greyfield & his infinite seaplanes of just fucking your shit up is exactly how naval warfare should be.
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>>336415074
Same. AW:DS was like MvC2 - colorful, fast-paced, tons of content, broken as fuck, and incredibly fun as long as neither players were niggerfaggots.

Just as you don't be that asshole who does Iron Man loops on somebody trying to play Servbot, as long as you don't pick Hachi when your buddy wants to play Flak or something you'll have a good time.
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That's a nice bunch of units you have there, worms.

Sure would be a shame if a meteor were to strike them.
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>>336417881

>there's no way to revitalize it with waifus like FE

Isn't that basically the conceit behind Valkyria Chronicles? Plus, are you saying you wouldn't pat Rachel's head?
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>>336419541
>Isn't that basically the conceit behind Valkyria Chronicles?
VC doesn't really play anything like AW either.

Actually if anything, it's closer to FE than AW.

>Plus, are you saying you wouldn't pat Rachel's head?
Sure I would, but I wouldn't want a AW game with a focus on that crap.
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>>336403986

I played Advance Wars on GBA and when I got to the stages with aircraft I couldn't hack it.


Not a tactician I guess.
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>>336418678
>tfw the Advance Wars community is tiny and irrevelant

>not-shit navy

Oh god this. Navy only maps are so terrible, especially before DS allowed cruisers to attack surface ships. How I'd fix them in the context of Dual Strike

>transports as is
>subs are good against capital ships and transports
>destroyers are cruisers with a rebranding
>cruisers are ranged anti-air with destroyer level surface attack
>battleships are heavy direct combat ships (if destroyers are tanks, battleships are medium tanks)
>aircraft carriers replace battleship's role as ranged attack, retain air transport ability

Cruiser, battleship and destroyer can all use their direct attack on surface units in range.
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Would you buy an AW game that uses this exact art style in-game?
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>>336419740

Even if it meant more of the AW gameplay you enjoy?

You'd have the same amount, or more, of regular gameplay missions, but in between missions are VN segments where you do team building/strategy meeting with other COs, which would tie into CO and Tag Powers.
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Hey remember that underrated RTS/TPS Spinoff series?
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>>336403986
Better dead then driven into the dirt, honestly.
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>Sasha has a 105% Tag Break with Grimm

Is the game trying to tell me something?
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>>336419871
>>aircraft carriers replace battleship's role as ranged attack
With what fucking weapons?

>>336420038
That doesn't sound bad actually.

I'd like to see multiple COs on the battlefield as well. Maybe you could have one supreme CO whose power has a light influence over the entire army, but you could deploy smaller COs through units who might actually take part in battles, who have a smaller influence, like in DoR.

>>336420172
It was alright.
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>>336420174
>Advance Wars: Color Splash

>>336420278
Hey, use the new guys

>>336420336
Drones
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>>336419431

Dead people dont talk, nigga.
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>>336420172
BW was okay. BW2 was fucking amazing.

Waggle controls are shit, but the pointer was probably the best innovation in console control scheme since the analog stick.
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>>336419871
Or just port over days of ruin's Navy.
They fucking nailed it.
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>>336420868
I never made it far enough in DoR to play a naval map. The game is really fatiguing for some reason

>port over a navy
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>>336421221
Blaze blunts
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>>336421041
It's the only game in the series where Navy isn't dogshit.

Battleships can move and attack in the same turn.
Carriers can create seaplanes which are basically stealth bombers sans the stealth and slightly weaker.
And they added gunboats which can carry one infantry or mech unit and are super cheap, but only have 1 ammo.
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What sucks is that the WiiU controller is perfect for Strategy games.
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>>336420868
Never cared for how subs one-shotted carriers, crusiers were the only thing that could fight them (but you need to park something else on them first), and even then, a sub can survive the encounter just enough to limp away to port (which it'll need for fuel, anyway)
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>>336421653
>Nintendo and its partners under-utilizing their own hardware

What else is new these days?
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>you will never play an AW character in smash
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>>336422136
Here's three more FE characters instead.
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>>336405821
IS is a smaller company, with the more skilled staff already becoming fossils / retired. They probably toned things back so they don't fuck up the good franchises they have, these games need a visionary to figure out what the game should be, and a lot of people are fucking that up.
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>>336422528
So like most Japanese game companies they need new blood.
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>>336420023
Yep.
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>Tfw Days of Ruin was my favorite
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>>336403986
>[Dual Strike]
I know a troll thread when I see one.
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>>336403986
cuz nintendo is faggot
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>>336422272
I'm okay with this. FE characters are still a high priority for me and it wasn't until a couple years ago that the fear of the franchise going the way of the dodo was a very real thing.

I could do without a couple of audience-grabber characters though.
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>>336423216
Days of Ruin was great. What it lacked in charm it got plenty in edge

Also bonus for lolitas.
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>>336403986
Too difficult for your average nintendo baby. They should just bring the series to PC instead.
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I played a few Advance Wars games, they are pretty neat but it always lacked something, maybe it just felt too simplistic for me.

I had fun with them, but never really saw the reason why everyone praises it so much.
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>>336414131
>Not always playing with FOW with your friends.
I liked her, but she wasn't my go to. She keeps her HP hidden as well, and she has big counter attack boosts as well in later installments I believe.
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>>336415174
I actually enjoyed Codename Steam. It has little replayability though, so many of the levels are multi-hour slogs that one time is probably enough for most players. Sad, comparing Advance Wars single player, which I've probably sunk over 1000 hours into. Loved the characters but the campaign just kind of fell flat.

The 3DS's other XCOM clone, Steamworld Heist, is a lot better than anything Intelligent Systems has made in the past eight years since DoR, unfortunately.
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>>336420023
yes.
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>expect something good, maybe even decent
It sucks.
Still better than Mecho Wars, though. What a shitpile that was.
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>>336424931
I liked pretty much all of Days of Ruin -except- for the fucking lolis. It was such a kick to see the slew of post-apocalyptic COs and their semi-realistic designs, and then they went and nip'd it up.
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>>336417791
>>336418443

>Love on the Battlefield
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>>336428136
what is this?
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>>336404125
I know this is a popular opinion but they abandoned Advance Wars long before Fire Emblem actually got popular again.
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Which did you prefer?

Advance Wars 1's system where you played only Orange Star and had to fight through all the other countries

Advance Wars 2's system where COs had their own individual missions and you were forced to use COs from each country, but you don't got to fight the same Black Hole people over and over again

DS's system where you got people from every nation and could pick and choose but only got to fight Black Hole COs again

I think 3 was unequivocally the worst, especially because so many maps were skewed to Jake/Rachel, but I'm having a hard time picking between the other two. I think Ultimately 2 wins out because it kept the player gameplay fresh and forced me to use COs I usually wouldn't use, even if I did have to fight Adder 900 times. Maybe 1's system would have worked better in a later game where there are way more COs both for Orange Star and for the other nations.
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>>336428250
I loved the story, and I thought unit art was pretty fucking good, but I missed all the colors and the sillyness.

>>336403986
If you hadn't made this thread, I would have.
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>>336409391
i can't tell if you're an elaborate troll or an actual fucking skinhead.
either way i hope you choke on shame and die in your sleep
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>>336422136
Hoping we get Nintendo vs. Capcom or something and they put Sami in that.
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>WHY THE FUCK AREN'T NINTENDO MAKING MORE OF THIS SHIT?!

Because Nintendo is fucking retarded.
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>>336403986
REMINDER DOR KILLED IT WITH ITS GRIMDARK HORSESHIT
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>>336404834
Me too. I liked the ragtag outfit as it grew and dealt with new hurdles.
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>>336404791
>best in the series
>every team is just recolors of the same units, no graphical differences nor any unique flair
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>>336406515
But I don't want it in the FE setting. I want a modern setting.
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>>336429063
This opinion is objectively fucking wrong.

None of the missions were skewed to jake/rachel, fucking none of them, the only reason you think this is because they are the only thing you have for a while and get the most level ups. Max, Colin and Sasha are all better than Jake and also come early and Rachel is the "I have nothing else to put here so might as well put her" CO in most situations.

I MUCH prefer AWDS's system of letting me use all sorts of CO's I just wish the maps weren't littered with team missions because it makes it harder to strategize and it really feels like artificial difficulty.

AW2's system was fucking ass, you're forced to use certain CO's which forced you to build the strategy around them, it did have the better map design though.

AW1 is second best since you at least get to pick between three different CO's.
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>>336406762
lol, nice b8

just play it in black and white then if you want drab colors
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>>336432796
>green earth has a A-10
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>>336433165
It looks like they have a hind as well even though it could be the Eurocopter Tiger. Blue moon also looks like it has the EuroFighter
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>>336403986
Because everyone and their mothers pirated it when it came out since gba and DS had tons of emulators.

This game has tons of fans... however most of them are pirates.
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>Advance Wars will never get more games
>>336420172
>Battalion Wars will never get more games
I actually shed a tear over this one.
Why does everything have to suck so much.
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>>336433469
I was about to get pissed off at you for that, then I remembered that even when I was a kid I was playing pirated versions.
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What Advance Wars and FE both need is Zone of Control mechanics.

Infantry spam is a direct result of having to make your own ZoC to protect important units instead of just properly positioning better units. This is especially true for naval combat, naval combat was so frustrating because you had to surround your capital ships with anti sub/anti air so they wouldn't get one shotted and you'd be out 3k.
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>>336432796
>it actually makes sense that all the neotanks use the same sprite
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>>336420023
I'd like it even more than what we have now.
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I just want more Lash lewds
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>>336432796
Exactly. There are some aspects of DoR that are inferior to the others, but they're all meaningless minor details like that.
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>>336433990
DoR has the best unit balance for sure, but I do with it had a War Room or more maps
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>>336432796
>every team is just recolors of the same units, no graphical differences nor any unique flair
Well actually there's there's two different sets.
Still much less, but it does kinda make sense when 2 of the 4 factions are from the same country and one of them was a supplier for both countries.
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>>336431552
hi r.eddit
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just downloaded advance wars 1 and 2 on my 3ds after getting a bit excited from the enthusiasm from this thread. never played the series before, here i go.
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>>336433828
I'm actually curious on ideas how would they go about doing this.

Would having stuff like units face directions, and attacking them head on or to the side yield different defenses and counterattacks, or does that sound needlessly tedious?
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>>336403986

Dual Strike is grossly unbalanced. I'd play 2 next.
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>>336412028
Lash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd3241fSRos
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>>336403986
>no new advance wars
>no new metroid
>no new animal crossing
>Nintendo going mobile

Why even live?
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I used to hate Dual Strike but I've started appreciating it more lately. It's unbalanced as all hell, but it also has the most options if you're willing to experiment with making your own pre-deployed maps or setting some house rules
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>>336434369
In a game like Advance Wars that just seems like too much, but minor ZoC mechanics would be more than fine and add to the strategic depth without slowing it down.

Most units with offensive capabilities would project control into surrounding squares. Units can move into but not through these squares.
Units with less than 4hp would not offer ZoC at all unless Veteran Rank.
Recon can ignore ZoC completely, air units ignore ZoC except from Anti Air and Fighters, but they in turn do not give any ZoC for ground units, ships have ZoC but subs ignore it except from Cruisers.
Bikes, APC, Artillery, Rocket, Missile, T Copters, B Copters, Landers and Carriers never give off ZoC.
To help weed out infantry spam, Infantry could only give off ZoC against other infantry as well, but Mechs could give off ZoC to vehicles so long as they have ammo for rockets.
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>>336433943
Lash was legit one of my first vidya faps ever.
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>>336432895
>None of the missions were skewed to jake/rachel, fucking none of them
This isn't really true, the final mission of the game was begging you to use Jake on the main map and Rachel on the top screen, the bottom screen is a giant plain which gives him a huge boost, and the top screen has a ton of cities and bases, and small groups of enemies for Rachel's missiles.

The Koal crystal map was pretty similar. Maybe not skewed to Rachel but all the Plains in the game made Jake a very good CO in a lot of situations, regardless of him getting early EXP.
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>>336403986
They hate fun
Take your waifuemblem you fucking fag.
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>>336435097
>Koal crystal map

It was not all plains, it had a ton of road and woods and a giant mountain range in the middle.

Thats also the first mission begging you to use Max considering he is the objective best CO to choose for the top side.

Also these are only two maps, and you're wrong about one. DS had way more maps than that.
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>>336404125
What's wrong with Advance Waifus
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>>336407546
Its funny that all of my friends including myself are married, have jobs and have toy collections. Must suck to be a nasty old man before you hit 30.
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>>336435338
Literally best girl in the series. Prove me wrong faggots.

Advance Waifus would be a terrible idea because the quality of each individual girl would go into the crapper thanks to the influx of girls. We don't want a FE situation to happen.
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>>336434862
I feel like rockets could be a little too powerful, but as long as options to blow through that control like you suggest hit a nice balance, I'd love this idea.

It certainly could make naval units much more useful, if they get a slightly larger radius, so you could actually protect your battleships.
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>>336435338
I still contend that unlike Fire Emblem, waifu focus would actually make Advance Wars better
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>>336435338
Please no. I'm fine with lighthearted fun and stereotypical CO's.
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>>336435253
That's great. I haven't played DS in years. But saying there are no maps in the game that want you to use Jake and Rachel is wrong.
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>>336434362
To prevent any future bitching about how broken and unfair the game is, I'm going to give you some early tips.

- Make good use of meat shields and tile blockers.
- The AI fucking hates APCs above all else.
- The AI is also unaffected by Fog of War when it should be.
- Yes the game is unbalanced as shit, we all know that. All the games (except PoR) are about broken vs. broken, find whichever flavor of cheap tactic works for you and run with it.
- A huge chunk of the fun is in fighting against stacked odds.
- Don't forget to unlock hard mode.
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>>336435513
I'd also make it so that air units can pass over ground units and ground units can pass under air units.

And frankly I'd nerf ranged units by about 15% in general.
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>>336435654
>ai hates APCs
This. The game becomes a lot easier when you send a random APC away from your main force.
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>>336403986
Get ready for that mobile reboot
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>>336435068
Me too.I thought Sonja was a lame character as a kid, but she's my favorite now.
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>>336435636
>game has several different kinds of maps, a lot of them with multiple teams to force you to try out all different sorts of combinations
>this somehow means the game forces you to use ONLY rachel and Jake

Thanks for proving my point DSP
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