What went wrong?
>>336359954
the god damn dialogue, so God damn stupid
You mean what went right, I assume? My game sold like hotcakes!
made by bethesda
no skills, dialogue wheel, another settlement needs your help
>>336359954
Removal of most RPG elements in favour of being a shooter with a stat system and some weird building shit from Rust/Minecraft killed it. Hopefully mods can make it bareable.
Hi, fellas. The Todd here.
You all purchased and enjoyed my game, didn't you?
you could get power armor in the second quest
>b-but fusion cores
they're fucking everywhere, even in vanilla mode, and you could just keep upgrading and upgrading the original suit until it was completely broken
It's exactly what you should have expected after Fallout 3.
>>336360292
Hah, fuck you Todd your game sucked ass
>>336360038
Seriously fuck the dialogue wheel.
Yes
Sarcastic- = yes
No = Yes
Explain more because I'm a retard
>>336360292
s-sure mr. todd sir.
>>336360638
W-What??!
>>336360751
Most games had this type of response.
A bit more fleshed out in the other games but the major difference was it was not limited to 4 generic types.
>>336359954
Fallout 4 is not an RPG.
>>336360872
Wasn't the DLC supposed to come out today?
>>336359954
They dumbed it down even more than FO3, spent way too much time making the retarded settlement function no one cares about instead of making genuinely good quest lines.
>>336359954
http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=10267
I miss Toddposting, hopefully it comes back again when Fallout 5 New New Orleans™® is released in 10 years
>>336360038
(Y)WHAT DIALOGUE?
(X)SARCASTIC
(A)SUPPORT DIALOGUE
(B)HATE DIALOGUE
>>336360494
I didn't expect it to be that bad. It feels like a game that had a lot of potential if they didnt remove skills and made that horrible perk chart. The randomized weapons I can accept, but taking away skills just removes the whole point of building a character. And perks were supposed to be rare (every 3 or 4 levels).
>>336359954
Beth
>>336361448
>The randomized weapons I can accept
I can't. They essentially removed unique weapons.
>>336359954
pipe weapons
what the fuck were they thinking
>>336359954
Bethesda tried to turn Fallout into Mass Effect and failed miserably.
>>336361650
>open up a vault which has been sealed for hundreds of years
>go to the overseer's office and unlock his [Master] locked safe
>find a pipe pistol and some caps
I dont get it
Honestly I didn't give a fuck about the gameplay. Like for fucking once with a bethesda game I just don't give a shit.
WHAT I DID CARE ABOUT was the stupid fucking town settlement builder. The ingame builder is complete horseshit type of bad. On top of that the settlements are just constant repeat quests of 'pls save us' or 'go and clear X area'.
I have no idea why this was put into the game. It offered no benefit to the player and just wasted everyones time involved.
It's funny because Bravely Default ALSO had a town builder that was 10x better despite being much MUCH simpler of a concept. You would be allocated builders starting with 1 and moving forward to 12 or so. Any building creation would be based off real time and once completed would add content to the game.
On TOP of that there were also multiple optional bosses in the same area you could fight that would reset every so often. And they were hard as shit.
I'm not saying that they should copy 1:1 but fuck
>>336361650
Haven't played F4, how the hell are you meant to shoot this thing? It has no trigger and it looks like it can't handle even a small drop to the ground.
Please don't tell me that the trigger is the nail.
>>336362156
IT
JUST
WORKS
>>336359954
Someone post that retarded "lol I like to shoot" guy
>>336362148
>Bravely Default ALSO had a town builder that was 10x better
Nigga what, it was complete shit, one of the worst things I've ver seen in a game. Playing it alone was like a horrible mobile waiting game. Unless you had tons of friends I guess, but then it would be broken as fuck having all that good gear early in the game.
Plus you need those item shops to make salvemaster good, which in turn can make you wait for a fucking week in order ot make a job not shit.
>>336359954
https://archive.is/WVCxd
>>336362156
the nail is the trigger
>>336359954
The new 1.5 update they did destroyed all my mods and save files. Thats what went wrong.
Fuck you tood
>>336362461
I'm just saying in comparison to the FO:4 builder the concept was better overall. When I played BD it was over spaced out sessions and it matched up to how I was playing. It always felt like progress.
When I get on FO:4 there's no buildup in the settlements. It just exists and sure you can get the 'legendary' merchants or whatever the fuck but that's literally it when it comes to gameplay enhancement. I mean they really couldn't have legit settlement upgrades? Like upgrading a keep in WC3? Or improving Blacksmithing so your merchant can suck less dick?
I mean it's just a failed concept overall that they included for minecraft kids.
>>336362156
I have never noticed that. What the fuck? I thought the gun designs couldn't get worse after 3 but Bethesda never ceases to amaze with their incompetency.
>>336362713
They did you a favor pham
>>336362520
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
At least I can still play dress up with lewd mods on skyrim I guess.
The only positive things i can say about FO4 is
>finally got Power Armor right (even though you won't see a lot of variety unless you join the BoS)
>The Syringer is fun to use
>Gunplay is better than FO3 and NV
>The game is such a programming mess that it has become a modder's paradise
what is wrong with FO4
>everthing in >>336361059
also
>find a Robot racetrack, only option is to blow everyone on it instead of making it fun and let me bet on the races
>find a Boxing Ring like the one in FO2, i can't participate nor bet in it, only option is to kill everyone
>you can avoid all possible raids to any of your settlements as long as the defence level is above your food level
>you can build water purifiers up the ass and essentialy sell them for infinite money
>Wasteland Workshop is a buggy mess
>Automatron DLC makes the game too easy once you get your robot companion
>basebuilding is barebones as fuck, kids in minecraft can mod more in-depth base building mechanics
>all containers have randomly generated junk, even the master locks can simply contain pipe pistols and pre-war money
>the BoS now hoards technology for some reason, making them complete hypocrites since they use the same technology that supposedly destroyed humanity
>Liberty Prime is here for some reason
>The Institute super-advance facility only has synth with armed with laser pistols for defence
>The institute replaces humans with Synths instead of using perfectly functional Mr.Handy or Eyebots, Mr.Gutsy gave me more trouble than a Synth ever did in this game
>Kellogg approaches my cryo pod for no reason exposing his scar so i can identify him later
>Nick and Piper both say the phrase "The Institue is the Commonwealth's boogeyman" like 4 times in the same conversation and 8 times overall
>my character can go to random guy, to a good understanding guy, to a murderous maniac in the same conversation thanks to the fantastic conversation wheel
and that's not even half of it
>>336364334
>>336359954
They removed the words "A post nuclear role playing game" from the title and the game
>>336365768They wouldn't want to get sued for false advertisement
>>336365014
>>336364334
>after level 20 you are going to approach all enemies the same way: sneak attack first guy, if still hidden, repeat, if not, just keep using VATS to score headshots and basicly 1-shot everyone
>only interesting companion is Nick Valentine whose backstory would've been a lot more interesting if we were allowed to visit the town he used to live in "but it was taken by raiders"
>no Super Mutant is intellingent, they know how to operate heavy guns and rifles but they don't know how to properly speak, ignoring anyhting the FENV ever established
>Pre-war T-45 is the best Power Armor apparently
>Radiant quests is now an excuse for "we coudn't be bothered to ask for creativity"
>not a single hot female unless you are desperate and want to fuck Curie or Ms. Edna
>most outfits can't be worn with armor
>pre-war items that shoudn't be in Boston and are somehow find
>"RPG ELEMENTS" so shallow that they only put it there to be able to sell the game as an RPG
>pre-war drugs
>the shitting on the game lore is so bad that i legit felt bad for whoever wrote FO1 and 2
>Survival mode takes away the only things that makes FO4 tollerable
>bodies can fly 20 meters backwards even though i shot them with a simple pipe pistol
>garry's mod tier phsysics (i think GM has better psysicis desu)
sometimes i feel bad for uninstalling NV to play FO4
>>336360292
I pirated it and still felt like I wasted my money.
The main story is ass and basically tells you what character you're playing before you even get to the character creation screen. Every choice essentially leads to the same end result.
I enjoyed the 40-50 hours I put into it, but anyone expecting a real roleplaying experience is going to be very disappointed.
>>336366529
It doesn't really matter
>Start the game as male
>war veteran
>only reference is telling Danse "i'm no strager to combat" or go to Freternity Bulding 111, go into the mic and say "War, war never changes" wich is the building you were supposed to go to say your speech
Or you could
>start the game as female
>be lawyer
>no bonuses nor diplomatic approaches to things
your character starts and ends with the same amount of character as the tea i'm drinking right now
Dialog wheel as well as voice acting pretty much prevented any sort of interesting quests and dialog options
Short story a little bit dull and they raised the price of the dlc and I still bought it like a sucker and the dlc is 25 mins long
>>336364334
>>the BoS now hoards technology for some reason, making them complete hypocrites since they use the same technology that supposedly destroyed humanity
That's literally what they've done since Fallout 1. The BoS is actually better in this game than 3.
