Which Final Fantasy has the best gameplay?
>>336327426
Tactics.
gameplay
15 > 12 > 6 > 4 > 2 > 5 > 1 > 3 > 10 > 7 > 8 > 9
>>336327540
this.
best game in the whole series desu
but the series are pretty weak
>>336327617
NIGGA YOU HAVEN'T EVEN PLAYED 15
X-2
You know I'm right
tictacs is my favourite but not letting you avoid random battles is ass
dissidia is fun
the ATB ones are ok on max speed and active, otherwise don't bother
X has the best turn based system
XII is ok if you don't abuse gambits and let the game play itself
haven't played beyond XII
>>336328416
NIGGA YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO PLAY IT FOR MORE THEN A YEAR NOW
>>336327426
Thanks Doc.
5
I liked VI in that there was almost no reason to ever use a standard attack. Every character had a gimmick, and most of them were really good. Made each party member stand out, and made even basic fights against random enemies feel more diverse. You'd always use tools over attack, you'd always use blitz over attack, you'd always, you'd almost always throw, rage had tons of versatility, dances were great, etc
I've not played all of them though
>>336328416
>>336328882
>ni**a
*sighs*
>>336328493
I never saw a FF with so many minigames before
>>336329167
this bate doesn't work anymore francis
X for turn based, 15 for real time
X-2 has a better combat system than X but everything else like balance or enemy variety is worse
>>336327426
dragon quest
This is like asking which RE has the best voice acting. Arrok the same
Type 0
How's the GBA version of VI? I realize I'm opening up a can of worms here.
>>336331286
It has the most content, fixed some bugs and got a new translation, but they fucked the sound quality.
If you wanna play it, get the patch to restore the old OST, and the patch to restore the old colors (they had to change them a bit to fit the GBA). With those it's probably the best version.
>>336331286
Nah it's not a can of worms. It's considered pretty much the definitive version except for the messed up graphics and sound, which there are patches for.
>>336327426
Dissidia.
>>336329405
I know from the demos
It's not like it has stiff competition anyway (ff12)
>>336331587
>It's considered pretty much the definitive version
Only by idiots.
Retro - V for the job system, and VI for character abilities, it's also pretty fast paced IIRC. Haven't played it in a while. Also Sabin suplexing a fucking train is still the best thing in any RPG ever.
Older - FFX / X-2 for great battle system in general and X-2's interesting take on the job system.
Modern - XIII-2 and LR's combat systems are pretty damn enjoyable for people wanting something different.
Honestly pretty hype for XV, but I hope they go back to more classic combat (and setting) with XVI.
>>336332190
And why is that?
>>336332420
good taste except for liking XV
>>336327426
I-IX basically have the gameplay so that's a tough one
15 > 13 (only if you don't use auto battle) > X >everything else
>>336334276
>I-IX basically have the [same] gameplay
No, not really.
I-III have pure turn-based battles.
I, III and V have job systems.
IV-VII and IX have basic ATB, with VII having Limit Breaks.
VIII has the Junction and Draw systems which are very important.
>>336327426
5 by a mile
5
anybody who says otherwise is a millennial
>>336333764
Just play Kingdom Farts, squirt.
XII
>still uses ATB but adds free movement
>removes field/battle transition screen
>removes menu tedium
>menu commands are still an option if you want them
>you can program with gambits as much or as little as you like
the only dumb thing was
>run to gain MP
>>336335173
>squirt
I'm 31.
I've never actually played KH, I never got into the whole Disney think, because I was in my very late teens when the first KH came out.
tl;dr - go fuck yourself you generic condescending nostalgiafag who uses their age to enforce their superiority/inferiority complex on others who don't have limited taste
>pic related
Bravely Default
>>336332420
Oh, I didn't add 7 or 8 because materia/junction were pretty game breaking systems, and I didn't enjoy 9's license system.
Great games regardless.
>>336335525
Didn't add Tactics because it's common knowledge it's GOAT in all aspects.
>>336332420
>dat malboro ambush
>>336327540
Not a Final Fantasy.
FFT is just Tactics Ogre for babies anyway.
>>336335525
what do u think malboro's breath smells like haha
>>336335804
prompto's farts
>>336332420
Good taste, except I'd swap X-2 for XII IZJS as far as the job system-based games go. Free seamless movement >>> clunky hybrid in X-2.
Personal ranking: XV > XII IZJS > XIII-2 (love the speed) > V/VIII (muh customization) > everything else.
>>336335758
Bravely Default.
X-2 has the best battle system and jobs.
Shame about EVERYTHING ELSE BEING SHIT.
>>336336109
Man, I know that a lot of this kind of stuff they've been showing is probably staged, but I'm still holding out hope there really is as much TECHNOLOGY.webm as they're implying. I guess it would make sense with how long it's been in development, though.
Not that I've literally ever expected such things out of an FF game, but it'd be nice considering how rare that is in modern games.
>>336327426
FFX
>>336327426
>Pic related
Tactics Advance 1
>>336337327
Most what they show is happening dynamically
>>336337327
it's pretty neat TECHNOLOGY imo
>>336336109
>that left dude's hair is burning due inflammable hair-spray product
serves him right, retard
>>336337327
4 years isn't that long, anon.
>>336329167
found the nigger.
>>336337327
XV is full of TECHNOLOGY and details so small most people will never even notice them. Party members gesture at each other during battles, have personalized animations for everything, and sometimes they even screw up.
>>336338283
Kek
Anyone got that chilly train scene
>>336337690
I know it's actually happening, but a lot of the times when devs show stuff like this it's because they went out of the way to show it off and it's not something that will commonly happen. In MGS3 for example you're constantly running into little things like that and it makes the world feel more real. What I'm hoping for is that they have lots of moments where you fuck something up and everyone reacts in a way you've never seen before.
>>336338036
That's pretty long for a game to be in FULL development these days. Most games start development 3-4 years before release but don't go into full development until two years before. Especially since at least some of the game has been worked on since 2006, even if not a lot.
>>336337876
I hope there's a lot of little interactive moments like these, they go a long way towards making you actually care about the characters, which is one of the goals of the game I think. One of the best ways the FF series can benefit from technology, IMO.
>>336338283
That's fucking great
>>336327426
This: >>336327540
But as far as regular FF go, X actually.
>>336327426
12 > X-2 > 4 DS > 5 > the rest
>>336327426
tactics.
>>336337327
>>336338496
>I hope there's a lot of little interactive moments like these, they go a long way towards making you actually care about the characters
The game is full of them exactly for the reason you outlined. The technology is even used to define individual relationships. Noctis and Ignis for example are extremely close, so they work in tandem more often than not and tend to stay close to each other in battle too.
>>336339216
>>336327426
Tactics
>>336339212
While awesome, that's not really TECHNOLOGY. TECHNOLOGY is when the game accounts for things 99% of players will never do, so it would have been like if when you land a horse on the tank the drivers stop and get out and gawk at it, or start praying because they think a horse god has descended on them.
>>336339216
>>336339352
MY DICK
>>336336109
Magic is dangerous in XV. We're gonna get tons of webms with people getting accidentally charred, frozen, electrocuted and who knows what else.
Sneaky goblins stealin my potions n shit
>>336341608
>fuckers steal your potions
>taunt you about it and actually drink them
Fun detail: the party members don't drink their potions. They just break the bottles in their hands and absorb it through the skin.
>>336343098
>>336327617
>2 that high
>1 that high
>3 below both 2 and 1
>9 at the bottom
>7 that low
>10 that low
>12 that high
>6 that high
Your list is fucked.
>>336341608
that's pretty cool actually
Pic related once you get the hang of it.
FFV
Every other answer is objectively wrong.
>>336336151
>Good taste, except I'd swap X-2 for XII IZJS as far as the job system-based games go
I have to admit I never tried that version. Will actually try to now, I still have a PS2, let's see how well this buy goes.
I just hope XV has XII's political drama, and the overall end-of-days theme going as they've hinted with the Plague of Stars.
>>336344398
see
>>336332420
Would you agree for the most part?
>>336344258
Is itfun?
>>336344474
Even the marketing talks about righting the history's wrongs, so politics will definitely play their role. And GI outright confirmed that Noctis has the duty to his country and to the world both, and the Plague is his responsibility to solve.
>>336345086
I'm really liking how XV has a political story, and a doomsday element. I love both in FF games.
>wahh 80s logic of flying cars should make sense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwSDLb7wzek
>>336345329
The impressions say it feels like the pre-PS2 FFs in many ways, but honestly, it kind of seems like another take on XII, except with most of its glaring issues fixed.
>tight-knit party instead of literally whos
>strong MC focus instead of having a bystander as the MC
>supernatural/divine elements introduced from the start to make them more organic
>overall goals set from the beginning for all paty members, instead of letting them just kind of tag along
>>336346020
so yeah people cried about how XII was too political so they made XV a mix of political and the CLASSIC OH THE WORLD'S FUCKED
Lyrics of Stand By Me actullaty reveal a lot of the story too if u listen to the third verse it talks about the end of the worlds and earlier versus talk about nights growing long which is XV's theme. As you play the nights that are more dangerous get longer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW4aFPf_O4E
Only FF game I've fully played through is IV. The DS remake. I liked it. It didn't amaze me, but I enjoyed it. I hear a lot of people consider VI the best overall. I guess I'll try that? Unless V's gameplay is a cool enough to warrant playing next. I'm just trying to get a decent glimpse into the series.
I'd try one of the newer ones but holy fuck those character designs are hard to get over, as superficial as that may be.
>>336344678
Yes. It isn't afraid to kick your ass either.
>>336346020
>Vaan
>MC
PoV =/= MC. The real main character was Ashe.
>>336327617
This is some kind of ultimate bait post. I know because I fell for it.
>>336346545
Ignore this "a lot of people consider [insert FF] the best overall" crap. It's a series that has sold over 110 million copies and every single mainline game was different. Especially later installments have millions of fans each, so you should really choose based on what looks more interesting to you personally.
And as for character designs, they actually got better with time.
>>336346020
Playable MC never existed, but in terms of story, I think it was Ashe.
>>336346963
Zidane is just so fucking out of place, even though IX is pretty much my top tier FF game.
>>336346963
>they actually got better with time.
Eh.
>>336346732
We're stuck with him for the whole game, have to control him in the cities, he never leaves the party, serves as the XII rep, and was the first character revealed. For all intents and purposes he's the MC, despite his odd role. Yuna was the real main character of FFX too in a way, but nobody really argues that Tidus wasn't the MC.
Most under used and over all best summons in all of FF coming though. Time to pay up
>>336330693
It's similar to Crisis Core, right? I've been thinking about picking it up
I quit at the underwater part fuck this game. It's been almost a month sense I've seriously played it
>>336333576
There is moderate censorship.
The scene where Celes is roughed up by the guards was changed, and some of the sprites got some 4kids style adjustments.
If you're not autistic it shouldn't be a problem.
>>336347120
>got more than one face
>won't kill themselves with the random spikes on their clothes anymore
Definitely improved.
>>336347323
It's fun. From the story you can tell it was meant to be a spin off of 13. What it was, just wish they changed it more or made it an official spin off.
>>336344258
ah, forgot about this gem
getting rid of MP in favour of the AP system was a great idea
>>336347323
It's a pretty cool and depressing game. Just keep in mind that it was designed around the PSP limitations (simpler controls, had to be playable in small chunks, couldn't take much space on the disk, etc.), but it's really well made.
>>336346449
Oh shit I didnt know they were using a cover for XV.
That's kind of lame.
>>336347458
Newer designs are pretty dull, though. There are exceptions, but I wouldn't say designs as a whole have improved.
>>336347794
this is the cover art for japan if that's what you mean
>>336347589
>Ribbons protect against everything but Stop and Slow
>>336347794
Why not? FFs have had one main instrumental main theme + one vocal theme since FFVIII and SBM is lyrically very fitting. It was also inspired by a gospel song, which fits the depressing and religion-heavy mood of FFXV.
>>336348789
>>336349410
A cover of the song you downies.
I don't like the cover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwZNL7QVJjE
>>336331286
the sound quality is ass, and the colour pallettes are washed out because of the GBA, but I'm pretty sure those are patchable.
aside from that, there were a couple minor changes to cutscenes.
>>336347403
Wait, what was the original scene? And didn't the BNW mod guy make it even more edgier?
>>336327426
>JRPG
>gameplay
>>336347401
>red mage
>TWO of them
>then whining the game got too hard
red mages and thieves are the worst classes in final fantasy.
>>336352335
Id see why you would be whining if they were too good. I don't know why you're flaming me how am I to know what's good when I play the game
>>336352678
I'm mocking you when you're using 2 of a class that is jack of all trades, master of none.
using 2 fighters, I can get
using 2 black belts, I can get.
but 2 red mages?
>>336352335
I actually prefer 4 red mages.
>>336347492
Its original title was Agito XIII, so it was a very loose spinoff. But I prefer how XV did it: cut the ties to XIII and kept only the most general influences like the sentient crystals and such.
>>336352807
Stop mocking me. Maybe if I known what was good I'd pick different
>>336353046
>Stop mocking me.
you're on 4chan.
>>336353226
/v/ sucks ass I thought it would have changed
Bravely Default
>>336343178
>>336343098
>Fun detail: the party members don't drink their potions. They just break the bottles in their hands and absorb it through the skin.
why? something to do with lore?
>>336354053
wew, lad
>>336343098
>>336343178
i'm glad i wont be playing this one
>>336354053
I agree
>>336354865
Kind of. The potions are made to be drunk normally (like the goblins do) but since Noctis and co. usually need them when fighting, they just smash them to save time and avoid distractions.
>>336350162
>>336347403
There's LESS censorship than on the original SNES version, at least. There's literally no reason to play the original version thanks to the GBA version's patches except for maybe the hacking scene if you're into that.
>>336327426
7 > 9 > 6 > 8 > 10 > the rest
>>336357229
>9
>better than anything
You have to be kidding. Literally nothing in that battle system worked well.
>>336356112
>forgetting the ded Kingsglaive qt
>>336359532
I enjoyed the gameplay also imho it had the best card gamess & the materia shit with the passives that could let you float and all sorts of other mechanics. Didn't see them in 7 or 8 and 10 just got a bit shit when they went full retard and basically turned it into a 3d scroller, removing the world map functionality that made you feel like you were actually exploring an open world. Chocobo stuff in 9 was pretty good too.
>>336327426
>>336360860
>9
>materia shit
>card games (multiple)
>implying 7,8 didn't have passive abilities
Are you sure you really played those games? And saying that IX had a good card game is a very bold opinion, to put it mildly.
>>336359745
Is she confirmed dead?
>>336350734
She got the shit beaten out of her in the prison cell. Now she just faints with implied abuse. Honestly it's a nitpick at best. She still tries to an hero later on.
X-2.
Speaking of, which FF game has the best level design?
That has been one of my bigger gripes the little I've played of the games. Most of it seems just to be a linear corridor that sometimes diverges a bit and leads to a dead end with a chest.
Does any of them do more "open" maps? And I don't mean the world map, but the actual levels.
>>336361406
Don't fuck with that bunny, anon.
>>336352335
red mages are good enough because they're jacks of all trades
>>336327426
XIV
I wish I was joking, Final Fantasy combat is terrible.
>>336327426
5>4>9>7>6>everything else
5's class system was perfect, 4 did a god-tier job of designing boss fights around ATB, and 9's probably the only RPG I've ever played that made me enjoy a skills from equipment system.
I liked the Crisis Core combat.
>>336347283
You get what you pay for.
-Yojimbo
>>336362242
>>336362292
FFX PC port when?
>>336362394
2017 obviously.
>>336353371
fuck off retard, it's 2016 learn to fucking google the classes
>>336347283
By far my favourite in X
>>336362609
>looking up a bunch of info before playing a game
And people say video games aren't dead.
>>336328493
As dumb as the plot was, it was still the most fun to actually play. 14's not bad either, but might still be too sluggish for some.
>>336362242
Me too. Especially when you realize it's closer to turn-based atb with a dodging mechanic than a full on KH-ripoff
>>336362691
I can't remember. Did the summons in X have a gimmick to them or were they basically just an ordinary spell with a 30 second cut scene attached to them like in 7?
>>336362749
>what were guidebooks
>what were hotlines
no one is going to give a fuck if you look up what classes go good together and how you can get a good start in the early game
Tactics
V
VI
X
X-2
>>336362912
Casual shit only retards used?
V had the best job system and all around combat system.
Niche opinion: I liked FFVIII combat system too.
>>336362906
The summons replace your party for the rest of the fight or until they get killed. You can use their spells and attacks and they have their own limit breaks.
>>336363319
Oh yeah, that's right.
>>336363319
Honestly I'm glad they're bringing back the good ol clusterfuck ultimate-super-attack model for summons in FFXV.
It feels way more "epic"
>>336363428
The FFXV summons have several attacks each that they use depending on the circumstances.
>>336327426
Dissidia
>>336364024
Yes, but I think they're still animations only no?
Isn't it exactly like FFIII summons?
>>336364414
Yeah, but they're now contextual. And some summons may ignore you altogether if you summon them on trivial shit.
>>336363484
JUST
ECKS TOO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8JcMWkz5uc
Fun is doubled with the International add-ons, having a party of some dog, a chocobo and a gunsnake mercilessly beating up superbosses is great
>>336365118
The music in this game reminds me of the bouncer.
>>336363484
What was that fish man creature with dagger and lantern, who keeps getting closer in the battlefield and insta-killing all characters?
>>336365506
Pug
>>336365506
Without looking at who you were quoting, I thought you were talking about Anima at first
>>336335131
>being proud of being 30
>>336327540
This.
>>336366270
Did Ramza ever get that?
>>336366472
He got his sister.
>>336366519
Huh
>>336361419
I did yes but not this decade. Well those are my opinions I didn't ask you to agree with them or get snarky.
>>336367583
>I didn't ask you to agree with them or get snarky
He's autistic, he can't help it
>>336367583
You got called out because the greentext part was simply wrong. FFIX didn't have the stuff you listed and VII and VIII had what you say they didn't.
>>336327426
12
15
is XV even going to be able to run properly on a PS4? Or is it being designed for 4.5 at this point?
>>336372241
When will this 4.5 meme end
>>336372786
What meme? I'm being serious I'm looking at XV and so far I've not seen the PS4 to be able to pull off anything comparable. Is it going to get a massive downgrade before release or are they just aiming for 4.5 performance and flipping the bird to anyone with a ps4?
>>336373219
There isn't a reliable source the PS4.5 thing is true. Even if it is then it will probably be the PS4 Slim or something like that.
>massive downgrade before release
Why would there be a massive downgrade? There's 2 FFXV demos you could play. The game runs decent enough with a few frame drops
>>336373603
I've not really been keeping up with the news honestly.
