Say goodbye to bethesda games on steam, folks!
http://www.thecountrycaller.com/48574-bethesdanet-game-launcher-arrives-possibly-features-built-in-mod-manager/
>>336309634
I guess Gaben said no to paid mods.
>>336309634
Oh no, I'll have to go without mediocre sandbox games every half decade.
>>336309634
Say goodbye to Bethesda games on steam!
And hello to paid mods!
>>336309634
So how long until someone from Nexus just hacks out an offline launcher?
>>336309634
Ive been pirating their games anyways, fuck these idiots
Still haven't bought FO4 :^)
>>336309634
how fucking annoying, another fucking game launcher that will be fucking shittier to steam in everyway probably so they can charge for mods
>>336309634
And there goes my last Bethesda game purchase.
>Paid mods backfire on Steam
>They pack it up and leave so they can inevitably try it again themselves
W
E
W
>>336310523
Worst part is it's a Bethesda creation too, so you KNOW it's going to be a buggy mess.
>>336309634
>Games are massively successful on Steam, often staying in the top 10 years after release
>Lol time to try and compete
Why are business people so stupid in the world of video games?
>Origin
>Uplay
>now this shit
Why don't they understand that this shit isn't gonna fly? I'm not going to download 4 different fucking launchers to play their shitty games.
>>336310676
its bethesda, they have the clout and success to try this.
>>336310674
god damn
>>336310676
>games sell less because of their shitty launcher
pc gamers only pirate games according to our stats
>>336309634
Nobody gonna miss those shitty devs and company
>>336310760
you forgot steam on that list
>>336309739
Valve came up with the idea moron
Bethesda is shit but you faggots blame them for paid mods then play CS or DOTA, which are essentials that under a different name
>>336310760
>>336310901
Goes without saying
If their grand unveiling of Bethesda's version of a "Mod Manager" is the shitty thing they put into Fallout 4 recently then I don't think Nexus has anything to worry about.
Also the Bethesda.net launcher right now is literally nothing. I used it once to download the CK for FO4 and haven't touched it since and haven't had to. You don't need it to use the CK once you have it.
I would have cared, if Fallout 4 hadn't convinced me that Bethesda really likes making each new Fallout or Elder Scrolls more half-assed and casual then the last.
>>336311009
>full games are the same as $5 skins and items
I knew /v/ was retarded, but this is just pathetic.
>>336311068
This. I just copied the creation kit over to my Fallout 4 directory and launch it from there.
>Bought Skyrim and Fallout 4
>Now I'll pirate TES6 and Fallout 5
Good job, you went from losing 30% of my money to 100%
>>336309634
Ayo hol up, I got that nuke thing with all the fallout games sans 4 for Christmas, but still haven't loaded them up and installed them. What will happen when I finally do?
>>336310523
>another fucking game launcher
Competition is good. Steam shouldn't have a monopoly.
Blame people accepting Steam in the first place for this.
>>336311491
It'll be like the EA games still on steam like Crysis 1 & 2; you can still play them, just don't expect any new games from them on Steam.
>>336311491
Nothing. You keep any game that gets removed from Steam.
>>336310372
>>336310331
DELETE THIS (and then purchase Fallout 4)
>>336311491
If you bought the games you can always install and play them, new people just can't buy it.
>>336311491
it doesn't have Fallout 4, better buy that shit dude
>>336311549
>Steam shouldn't have a monopoly.
you are correct, I fucking agree, but I want the usability to be as good at least
Like I can buy the game and then put the exe in steam where all my shit is
also I wouldnt have to launch the shitty launcher to run my shit
>>336311549
This isnt competition its segregation
Bethesda's platform isnt going to start accepting non Bethesda games, same as Origin and Uplay.
>>336310760
Yeah, I just use GOG Galaxy, the best of the lot.
>>336311491
Todd come crashing into your house and brutally rape your momand make her like it
Even if she was dead.
>>336311549
> steam shouldn't have a monopoly
> still uses windows
FO4 doesn't seem like its as good a porn game as Skyrim yet so why even bother. TES6 better be a good waifu creator.
>>336311549
a monopoly on what? you're not going to able to buy anything but betheshit on their launcher. this and steam are not the same things
>>336311912
because it is barely 1 year old, nigger.
if you refuse to fap to american lolis, we will have to deport you.
>>336309739
more like Gabe the anti-consumer jew said "yo todd, how about we take mods that your nerds made for free and then charge for it? you can keep 60% of it and we can keep the other 40% :)" but now todd gets all of the nerdbucks and fat kike Gabe gets none.
>>336309634
meh can't be worse than Origin.
>>336311821
>GOG Galaxy
Same, but I only really use it for old games. My GOG library is: Caesar III, Gothic II, Anno 1701, and Medal of Honor Allied Assault.
>>336311549
The problem here isn't competition. The problem here is the extra hassle involved in obtaining games. I don't want to have to register for another distribution platform, download it, install it, have it running and then make sure it's secure just to play one fucking game.
The thing is, it's not even competition. These platforms rarely have a large selection of games, some of them have the games from a single developer/publisher only.
I shouldn't have to go through all these fucking extra steps just for (maybe) one game every 3-5 years. It's fucking pointless.
>>336311912
It never will be. Fallouts don't get the waifu attention that Elder Scrolls does.
>paid mods happen
>the modders on loverslab become the richest vidya "developers" on earth
>>336310676
>Why are business people so stupid in the world of video games?
They've done studies. They're stupid everywhere due to addiction to money causing them to essentially act like children.
>>336312181
I hate to say it but this is where consoles have an edge. You just put the disc in and that's that.
>>336309634
They have a good working relationship with Valve, I doubt they'd pull anything from Steam.
Maybe I am missing something here, but it doesn't suggest you can only use officially sanctioned mods. Presumably you could just use an old mod launcher like the Nexus one.
And if they go maximum jew and prevent that, I am sure it'll take the modding community about 15 minutes to hack together a work around.
Do not underestimate the determination of people like the Loverslab team.
>>336312404
After the 2-5 minute bootup time. Then after your 30 minute to 8 hour long install time. Then you've got to sit through many 20s to 2 minute long loading screens.
>>336312404
>You just put the disc in and that's that.
Maybe if you're still on the 6th gen.
Now it's:
>turn on console
>system update
>wait for update to install
>put disc in
>game needs an install to make load times not terrible
>wait for install to finish
>game needs update
>wait for update to install
>log in with some 3rd party account because PSN/XBL aren't enough already
>>336312404
consoles don't have any kind of edge you stupid faggot. what these publishers are doing is creating shit that doesn't need to exist and creating artificial barriers
>>336312181
Jesus, how entitled can you possibly be. How much of a bitch is it, really, to install a launcher? And do it every 3-5 YEARS? Get the fuck over it.
Obviously you guys don't remember having to wait HOURS in the Pentium days for individual games to install. That shit sucked. Now game installs are much faster, and their downloads are as good as your internet. I have FiOS so i don't give two fucks.
>it's not even competition
The more launchers there, the happier I am. As launchers become more popular and in greater numbers, so also increases the chances that a game you want is going to be on sale on at least one of them. Eventually you'll shop for the best deal. Launchers will drive down the price of games. Developers won't give a fuck because they'll just sell their games at a lower cost to more launchers, evening out or making even more money in the end.
But /v/ babies like you will bitch about the flavor of free ice cream.
>>336312635
>>336312592
>>336312585
Triggered.
>>336312181
>These platforms rarely have a large selection of games, some of them have the games from a single developer/publisher only.
Which is exactly how Steam started. You're excusing Valve for being a greedy fuck before other companies decided to be greedy fucks in the exact same way.
People accepted Steam, this is the result.
>>336312663
t, Todd
>>336310243
>Nexus
>pirating
they will suck beth cock since their largest fanbase and profit is from them
>>336312663
I don't want a piece of redundant software on my computer. And frankly, I shouldn't need it.
I pirate all of my games so I don't care but
>mfw the valvedrones ITT make posts like "whelp, if it's not on steam that I'm not buying it!"
Valvedrones are gross people. Your addiction toward giving money to a fat fuck who openly dislikes you is just disgusting. Why are you so obsessed with supporting Steam over every other platform? Steam sucks, has a long history of buggy development, and has some of the worst customer support in the entire industry.
>>336312089
Did you forget your medication?
>>336311886
>What is Linux, Unix, FreeBSD, Mac OSX, OS/2, etc.
>>336312326
There's actually a schism going on at the site, because of an influx of sjw's and traps thanks to the popularity of Skyrim and Fallout 4, and the people that still go there regularly don't like paid mods anyway. So no one from that site would be making mad dough.
Todd, is this your plan to bring paid mods again?
>>336312737
>Someone disagrees with me, that means they're a developer!
kek, are you a pirate or something? Eat my shorts dickhead.
>>336312787
Then buy physical copies. Stop being a little bitch.
>>336309634
>people seriously believe companies are going to continue to give Gaben 30% when designing a storefront is simple as shit
>>336312724
Thing is, none of these other platforms are trying to compete with Steam. They're literally a platform for a single developer/publishers games. Not for anyone who wants their game on that specific platform.
>>336312789
>Why are you so obsessed with supporting Steam over every other platform?
Because people have invested money into Steam, thus they have to rationalize it by clinging to the service.
say goodbye to steam and hello to tixati
>>336312805
>influx of sjw's and traps
what could they possibly be bitching about over there
>>336312873
>Then buy physical copies. Stop being a little bitch.
Physical copies of PC games from Ubisoft and EA require you to install Uplay or Origin. I don't fucking want this shit on my PC. Which is why I have not bought a Ubishit or EA game for years now.
>>336310674
Worst part is it's a Bethesda creation too, so you KNOW it's going to be successful.
>>336312805
>SJWs have taken over Loverslab
Sauce?
>>336312879
>implying 30% isn't pennies compared to money lost trying to force users to switch
Just look at uPlay. They tried to pull their games from Steam and force users onto their service, and all it got them was a nice heap of backlash. They know that the 30% (or whatever it actually is, /v/ loves to play armchair accountant) is worth not pissing off the few fans they have left and keeping their titles on sale rotation.
>people blaming todd for paid mods
>in reality gaben approached bethesda about paid mods and beth agreed
I'd be michael j fox if I could shake my head any harder at this point.
>>336312663
pretending there's not an issue isn't how you fix it
also, like the dumb fucking retard you are, you seem to think these launchers will carry games from other developers that don't share the same publisher. it's not the same thing as steam how is that hard to understand? the way things are going there will be no competition, each company will have their own monopoly on distribution which would have the exact fucking opposite effect of having sales all the time. you won't be able to get the games from anywhere, but their platform
you're really fucking stupid, kiddo
I know that Steams new monopoly sucks, but all these seperate game launcher storefronts fucking suck.
>>336312879
>30%
It's not even half that. The amount Steam takes depends on the clout you as a publisher has. For someone like Bethesda, the actual amount is probably closer to 5-10% (5-10% of hundreds of millions is still a lot). Which is a lot less than the cut distributors of physical copies get.
>>336313157
Abandoning Steam will have 0 (zero) impact on Bethesda sales.
Their fans are too rabid and their games too hyped.
Only complete Steamshills would complain and/or threaten to boycott.
>>336309634
The built in mod manager is already in game though.
On the menu you can connect to beth.net
I'll stick to Nexus desu
>>336310674
>>336310523
I don't think so.One, you're underestimating how shit steam is and how easy it is to have a superior client than steam.And two, Bethesda game studios, the company that makes TES and Fallout, isn't the group that's making the client. The game launcher has games like Dishounoured and Doom and TES:Online, games that Bethesda Game Studio had nothing to do with. This means it's created by the companies that own Bethesda Studio, like Zenimax or something.
And I played TES:O for about a week before I got bored but the game's launcher always worked fine and the game seemed to run well enough.
Also daily reminder that most game company's launchers are superior to Steam. Epics, Blizzards, Origin, they all give me much less grief to use than Steam has. And Steam had YEARS of a head start. Steam is okay now but it was utter hot garbage during it's first few years of release. Other companies are just way better than Valve and this and Steamdrones are gonna have to come to terms with it.The only client that is worse than Steam is Uplay
>>336313016
>Physical copies of PC games from Ubisoft and EA require you to install Uplay or Origin.
But you're fine with Steam? it's the same thing
>>336313226
https://www.origin.com/de-de/store/browse/ubisoft
>>336311549
It's not competition, its just moving your product to another program. They don't compete with steam because they only sell games that they make where as steam has games from many developers.
To this day, I don't think anyone even really competes with steam in any way besides taking just one aspect that steam delivers on and focusing on that (Humble store, Origin).
>>336313381
>you're underestimating how shit steam is
?
It's the most convenient platform there is.
A first it was shit but they benefited from YEARS of experience before anyone else started doing this shit.
>>336309634
It's funny, I stopped buying EA games when they stopped being on Steam. I didn't miss Mass Effect 3 and I won't miss whatever shit Beth continues to let leak out of Todd's anus and onto store shelves in the future, either.
>>336313487
>check sysreqs
>also requires uPlay on top of Origin
fucking hell, that's still worse than the Steam version.
>>336309634
Oh look, another reason not to buy their games.
>>336312692
Haha gottem man :]
>>336313361
nope, i put off buying skyrimjob because it required steam. i eventually did, the game was shit and i'm no longer buying betheshit. maybe you faggots don't have will, but after me2 and da2 i haven't even pirated ea shit
>>336313461
I'll say it again.
The problem I have is needing to install tons of fucking redundant software just to play a game.
If I want to play a Blizzard game, I need their launcher.
If I want to play a EA game, I need to install Origin.
Ubisoft games need UPlay.
A lot of games need Steam.
And now Bethesda games will have their own launcher+store software.
Why the fuck do I need 5+ pieces of software that all do the same shit just to play a few games?
>>336313016
Then make your own gaming company and sell your games how you want to. You're not entitled to get your games the way you want. Someone else invested a shitload more time and money (read: risk) than you. This is such a non-issue to everyone else.
>>336313226
Guess what? There isn't an issue. I don't see campaigning outside of developer/publisher headquarters against launchers. There really are more important things in the world than having to download a little launcher on your Fisher-Price computer.
>No Competition
What is Steam, GOG, Desura, etc.?
>Each company will have their own monopoly on distribution
Then I guess we're back to what it was like buying physical copies. Perhaps you don't remember because you're too much of a bitter fucking edgy high school faggot, but DOOM (1993) was available via mail-order only from id Software. I'm talking about the full game, not the Shareware. That wasn't so rare in those days either. Go fuck yourself, crybaby.
>>336313632
You not liking the games has nothing to do with a storefront.
>>336312951
Dicks, religion, traps, themselves, etc. A lot of members are getting fed up with them attention whoring and expecting everyone to be treating them as normal as well. Or complaints about how a mod isn't fucking progressive. Most of the futa mod authors are like that.
>>336313078
>Sauce
Just take your lazy ass over there and hang around the forums and mod support pages.
While it's annoying as fuck to have several launchers for each company that thinks they don't need Steam and then have to make sure your account is secure I hope that maybe they will offer better prices and free shit.
I don't even like EA and Origin but atleast they have better regional prices inSouth Americaso I can get new game for 40$ instead of 60$
There's also the Battle.net launcher for Blizzard and they have even better regional prices too, a new Blizzard game is 30$ for me.
After Fallout 4 I don't even care. Good riddance.
>>336313487
>requires origin and uplay
top fucking lel. i don't even entertain the idea of buying and playing ubishit because it requires uplay on top of steam. what exactly is the point you're making here? figures that two cancerous companies would team up like this though. most other developers don't like ea
>>336312789
>Steam sucks
I wish more people would realize this.
>>336309634
it blows my mind that any sufficiently large publisher would use steam
30% off the top because you're too lazy to host some servers? no thanks.
>>336313706
>You're not entitled to get your games the way you want.
Then I wont buy them. It's that fucking simple.
>>336313706
once again this stupid fucking redditor doesn't understand that there's a difference between the betheshit launcher and things like gog and steam. just leave this website, kiddie. you don't belong here and no one agrees with you
>edgy
redditor buzzwords and all
kill yourself i didn't even read this, just skimmed
>>336312789
Most people that praise Steam are fat manchildren treating it like dorks' Facebook where they can make friends to ERP with while shoving shit up their asses.
>>336313881
It does suck. But I'm going to still play the games I bought on it.
>/v/ unironically shitting on steam
What the fuck happened? /v/ has always been pro steam and pro Gaben. Sure, some mistakes were made here and there but in general steam is the best platform for PC gaming. Nothing can compete with it.
>>336312789
It's not about the games not being on Steam.
It's about requiring another piece of shit launcher.
>>336313768
>I hope that maybe they will offer better prices and free shit.
And that is precisely what WON'T happen. We'll get companies that offer their products exclusively through their own channels, which means the prices will be more or less fixed.
Half the reason Steam has seasonal sales is because there are other methods to buy games from their catalog (Humble Bundle, G2A, GMG, GOG, Desura, Origin etc etc). If those games had exclusive distribution channels from their publisher, they'd keep the prices high because there'd be no other way to get them short of piracy.
>>336314029
how's that gabe cock taste? your post is wrong on so many levels I just wish you would return to reddit
>>336313951
It's not 30% though. 30% is what Steam would charge you or I because they offer more than just hosting for people like us (getting your game on Steam is a guaranteed 10k+ sales regardless of how shitty your game is).
For large publishers they'll negotiate but most will have massively reduced fees.
>>336314029
>/v/
>pro DRM
>>336312789
>over every other platform
what other platforms?
>>336314029
>steam is the best platform for PC gaming
That's GOG.
>>336314013
>I didn't even read this
Obviously.
>>336313983
Good riddance. Goodbye. Enjoy life.
>>336314171
/v/ supports consoles, which are physical DRM.
>People hate Steam
>But they're totally ok with installing 20 different versions of notSteam
But...
>>336311821
the best part about GOG Galaxy, for me, is that my GOG library is exclusively good games and 90% of them can be played on any computer
like if you want to use an older laptop or have a computer that's not a "gaming" computer, you can still install GOG galaxy and have a few good reliable GOAT games just in caseGOG GALAXY FOR LINUX FUCKING WHEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>336314197
>gog
>platform
it's just a download site where you have to pay. the only thing that remotely resemble a platform about it is review on storepage.
>>336314029
>We
Hell no
That shit started with the masterrace meme and reddit faggotry around 2011
>>336314253
>/v/ supports consoles
That's debatable.
>>336312404
>You just put the disc in and that's that.
10 YEARS AGO
jesus anon, consoles nowadays are essentially just giant, obtuse, and seriously horrendously inefficient game launcher. the xbone is origin. the ps4 is uplay. they all suck
>>336314029
>/v/ has always been pro steam and pro Gaben
no you fat FUCK
old /v/ despised steam because it sucked horse cuck when it came out. then middle-term /v/ started loving it because they were faggots who were addicted to valve memes and team fortress 2. you're in this group. you're a middle-term /v/ faggot. now neo-/v/ is here, and they don't have the cuckolded devotion to valve that weirdos like you do, so as a certified oldfag im going to corrupt them into hating steam as much as i do.
never accept drm, even if your cartoon hat game requires it.
>>336309634
Good.
>>336314309
>older laptop
That's me. I went out of the country with an older laptop and missed games. That's how I found GOG, which was great because it has a nice selection of older games that my laptop can run. Sometimes I have to tweak, but I always find the fix.
>>336314372
They have galaxy, which is optional, which makes it the best.Linux version fucking when?
>>336314249
Haha, you sure told those consumers, shill. I transfer 4.99 to your account now.
Oh good, yet another reason to pirate Bethesda games, not that I haven't been already.
>>336314029
>/v/ ever being pro-steam
was that after /v/ gave half life 2 goty?
>>336314253
>/v/ supports consoles
>/v/ is one person
>implying most of /v/ doesn't actually hate or even care about shit platforms like ps4 and xbone
>>336314452
Old and realible.
>>336312536
If they try to regulate mods on PC then they'll just be wasting money. Unless they switch an engine that is nearly impossible to mod they'll never win that battle.
>>336314485
>>336314309
fucking seriously, GOG for linux would let me drop windows, on laptops at least, ENTIRELY
>>336313631
Look bro!
>>336314161
>>336314171
>>336314375
>>336314415
I got them again! IT KEEPS HAPPENING!
>>336314249
just read this guy's reply chain. the betheshit shills are out in full force. the worst part is that he's doing such a shit job and he's actually getting angry here. he probably does enjoy betheshit games without having to get paid pennies to shill for them
>>336313723
>futa mod makers
>caring about being progressive
What the hell? I thought SJWs hated futa for it's "fetishization" of something inherently sexy.
>>336311549
>Artificial monopolies are "competition" and good for the market
>>336313159
kek
>>336314029
>Nothing can compete with it.
Except everyone IS going to compete against it, that's why all of these new stores and clients are coming out. Steam DRMfags will be eternally BTFO from the future and you can bitch and moan all day but your empire is crumbling.
I'm not saying Steam is perfect or anything guys, but do you really want to have to install yet another inferior version of Steam? I mean, really?
If you hate Steam, surely you must hate the idea of being required to install what is basically an inferior clone of Steam with a smaller selection of games to purchase just to play the game you bought... Right?
>>336314309
the best part about GOG galaxy is it's 100% optional.
If you decide one day that you don't want it running you can just disable it.
All your games will remain installed and work.
Then you can just open the client once a month for auto-updates or just download patches of the website like you used to.
As good as steam is there STILL is very little flexibility with offline use.
>>336314491
>anyone with a different opinion is a shill!
>anyone who doesn't agree that a non-issue is a big problem is a shill!
Who could I possibly be working for anyway? Some sort of syndicated launcher conglomerate? Kiss my peepee.
>>336313723
The fuck you talking about? I haven't seen any of that shit going on. Maybe in General Discussions or the Rant threads but who the fuck goes to LL for that?
>>336312724
Except Valve was also ahead of the curve. They got in on this before digital downloads for games was even feasible for the average consumer. There is absolutely no way Bethesda Launcher is going to somehow just become the next Steam.
>>336314723
Ok, shill.
>>336311760
but origin and uplay sell 3rd party games just like steam
>>336311549
>Steam
>accepts games from all developers
>Uplay
>Ubi games only
>Origin
>EA games only
>Bethnet
>Beth games only
"Competition"
It's literally just those publishers throwing a fit and being like "waaah, we want more money! Because switching to a system that most people are going to refuse to use so we can get 100% of the profit will totally be worth it instead of using a pre existing and popular online storefront"
At least Ubisoft still had the sense to sell their shit on Steam.
>>336314683
Stuff like Origin, Uplay and this new Bethesda platform aren't competing with Steam though.
You cannot get EA games on Steam anymore. So you either use Origin or you don't play those games. Chances are the Bethesda platform will be the same.
As for Uplay, if you buy an Ubisoft game, they get the money for it (and you have to install Uplay to play it), regardless of where you buy it from.
How is any of this competition? GOG is competition. Origin, Uplay, Battle.net and so on are not.
>>336314710
yeah
I'm thinking about dropping my desktop and going full laptop to quit video games and generally wasting time. I should spend my free time on music, reading, and film, and if I play games it should be doom maps or strategy games or old rpgs
I don't know why I'm such a slave to having so much technology and time spent on something I almost exclusively use to my detriment
Anon-kun, buy my geimu!
>>336314683
>your empire is crumbling
>Origin barely has any traction outside of Battlefield
>uPlay tried to pull out of Steam and got fucked
>GoG sells mostly niche stuff and Steam indie titles at higher prices
>everywhere else sells Steam keys
yup, sure is crumbling.
>>336314945
I don't see how that relates to my post but good for you buddy.
>>336314990
Wich one?
>>336314636
>>336314821
>own all of the anti-launcher autists with facts and basic reasoning
>You're a s-s-s-shill!
Thanks for proving my point, faggots. Keep giving me those sick (You)'s. I've almost won my shill company bonus for the week. I'll be able to buy food for my wife's bull, and maybe even my kids.
>>336315019
GOG is often cheaper than steam but it varies.
>>336311009
Nope. Bethesda approached them.
>>336315101
Ok, shill.
>>336314762
>There is absolutely no way Bethesda Launcher is going to somehow just become the next Steam.
It doesn't have to be. Bethesda games are hugely popular on PC. Dishonored, Doom, Wolfenstein, all of these games sell millions of copies. Valve won't see a dime of these sales on PC. Bethesda Studio games are even ABSURDLY popular on steam. Skyrim sold 22+ million copies total and Fallout 4 sold millions too. Many millions of these were on steam. Future entries in the series won't give a penny to valve. The next entries in these series will also be humongously popular on PC, but now not on steam. Think about Steam and Fallout 4. At any given moment, these games are always at the top of the list for most currently played on steam. These games are hugely important to Steam and now Steam has lost access to these franchises.
>>336315019
>Origin barely has any traction outside of Battlefield
That's true. All my Origin games are from the Bundle way back when. Plus Fifa.
>GOG and niches
This is also mostly true. I basically use GOG to get older games for modern OS's. In that respect it's a great service and I think is what is going to give it longevity.
My main platform is still Steam by far though.
>>336315238
Give me another (You) please.
>>336315082
Actually, don't listen to that girl. You should go out an buy all of my games.
>>336315404
Ok then.
>>336311549
>Steam
>Monopoly
I am so fucking tired of hearing this bullshit. Steam is nothing like any form of legitimate monopoly at all. I have never heard of steam exclusivity deals, steam doesn't actually control basically any of the prices on their platform, and they don't have anything in the way of the same sort of physical infrastructure costs that made actual monopolies like the railroads anti competitive.
Steam has a large market share entirely because of the popularity of the service it provides, there is literally nothing at all stopping anyone else from legitimately competing (and I do mean actually competing, not just pulling their games off steam and asking you to be a good goy and use their client for their games). Even a fucking retard like you could go out and get someone to code a client, and rent server space from someone like amazon and start competing with steam as soon as you managed to get some game devs signed on.
>>336315101
you're the one who is refusing to acknowledge valid points which means you're a shill and the way you type and the buzzwords you use makes it blatantly obvious you come from reddit
>>336310760
>Why don't they understand that this shit isn't gonna fly?
Because it does fly. You retards bought Battlefield. You retards bought Mass Effect. Some of you retards even bought Plants vs. Zombies 2 on PC. The fact of the matter is they hold a monopoly on their games, so unless you're smart enough to cut their garbage out of your life they win.
>>336315443
should I post my credit card here or is it cash on deliver or what?
>>336315443
Thank you Todd. Your games are so reasonably priced and you always offer great deals on top of that! Why are you so generous?
>>336315257
>Fallout 4
>29,901
>TES V
>29,609
>Immensely popular
>Bethesda has a built in mod manager
>allow adult mods unlike Valve
It's over.
>>336310760
Either Microsoft plans to grandfather in stores and services offered before a certain date, or they're just trying to extract as much money as they can over the next few years until they're forced into the Windows Store.
>>336315257
>The next entries in these series will also be humongously popular on PC
They are shitting the bed.
With the dick move they'll make by the end of the year, that studio will be shuned.
Even normies got disappointed by Fallout 4.
>>336315579
It's shit and made for consoles. I only checked it out once with 1.5 until there was a working workaround for ignoring it.
It's basically Steam Workshop built into the game.
>>336312789
>I pirate all of my games so I don't care but
You better care because this allows them to use Denuvo.
>>336313572
it still has bugs like randomly changing your browser language and they add annoying and unnecessary shit like trade holds and linkfilters
>>336310760
Why not tough, it is actually fun to have each game at it's own content creator's designed page.
>>336315579
>allow adult mods
source
>>336309634
People still play Bethesda shit?
>>336315729
Bethesda games aren't even worth pirating anyway though.
>>336315575
Those are some of the top played games on Steam. Skyrim is impressive given it's age but that is mostly due to modding.
>>336315803
>side toolbar
>>336310760
>isn't gonna fly
None of them have shown any signs of going anywhere so I don't see what you're getting at.
>>336315026
well, barely, but because I see GOG as a no frills, no investment kind of thing. Like having GOG games isn't a part of the cancerous gaming culture or the wasteful technology race
but yeah I like its optional features more than anything
I wouldn't be shocked if Bethesda thinks their games are so popular because of how good they are rather than the fact that they just get turned into waifu and porn simulators.
>>336315778
No other platform let me share my games or refund as easily.
I have a never ending backlog on steam thank to game sharing with friends.
>>336315484
I don't even have a reddit account.
>Valid points
Like what? The "valid point" that you don't like launchers and that means they're bad? Are you the dipshit who fell apart after I pointed out that the full version of DOOM has always been mail-order only when you brought up that "valid point" that games will just have a "monopoly" on their distribution via their own launchers?
Tough shit. It's not like developers of a good or service distributing it themselves is a new or bad idea. No matter how much you scream and cry about it you're never going to be right.
>>336315453
Give me another. 3 more cents and I can buy canned corn for my daughter. I've already got enough for my Wife's bull's Chick-fil-A order.
>>336315556
It's up to you, my son
>>336315541
Thank you, John. I appreciate your kindness.
>>336312224
Interestingly, as true as that is, FO3 had my favorite "waifu" mod of all time.
>>336315803
>/v/ in charge of cropping.
>>336316057
>I don't even have a reddit account.
you're not fooling anyone. you talk like a redditor and use reddit buzzwords. you're just denying what everyone can see
>>336315930
>toolbar
>triggered at people who prefer vertical pixels
I even keep my taskbar in the default location because you cant resize it but fuck dude that's autism
>>336312805
That's fine. LL are anti-loli, so fuck em.
>>336315803
Oh lord what the fuck are you doing?
>>336315907
You know people play them for the fapmods
>>336315930
>not wanting to conserve vertical pixels on your widescreen
>>336313572
>At first it was shit
I remember that vividly. I'd bought Day of Defeat and gotten really fucking good at it over a year, and then they ported the servers to DoD Source. I remember they promised DoD players would be able to use source if they downloaded steam like nothing changed. They lied.
I refused to use steam until like 2009 because of that but eventually I caved.
>>336315889
most gamers do. oblivion sold 10+ million, fallout 3 sold 12+ million, skyrim sold 22+ million, and fallout 4 sold 12 million copies 2015 and who knows how many afterwords because that was 5 months ago!
:)
most gamers play bethesda games. not playing them makes you a big memer, for us!.
>>336316330
Why did Skyrim sell so much more?
>>336311009
>Valve came up with the idea moron
How to tell someone got their opinions from /v/ and did zero research.
Valve REMOVED paid mods as soon as they found out people were angry. The only reason they didn't drop them sooner was that Gabe was on a flight and away from the computer when it was implemented.
He says after landing he found out "they'd made the internet angry again"
then he went on reddit, did an AMA and shot himself in the foot with that whole "actually, money is what drives the community" or w/e that got -5000 downvotes
>>336316297
There's better pron for free out there.
>>336316167
What a sleuth. Have you considered joining the police force with those skills? You get to shoot niggers too.
>>336314729
It's been affecting mods and mod support pages too, anon. Lurk there more.
>>336315821
You could always make an adult mod for Fallout 4 and try uploading it to Beth net.
>>336316119
wew lad
>>336315579
>allow adult mods unlike Valve
Oh yeah, Fox news will love that shit
>>336316390
Literally because of the >le epic dragons
>>336316570
None of the ones I follow but I stay away from futashit anyway so maybe I'm missing it.
>>336316619
Fox is too busy dealing with its imploding party.
>>336316390
Probably because of memes (idiots quoting Le Arrow to Le Knee) and Let's Plays. Plus it had every tall & fat "viking" cumming over the epicness. Everyone was talking about it.
To me, Skyrim was ok. But every ES game offers less and less in every department, so coming from earlier games was a letdown. Even the end game reward was less than Morrowind's fortresses and bling or Oblivion's suit of armor, the greybeards just told you to fuck off after killing Alduin. It was laziness at its finest.
Once this shitfest ES: Legends ships, we can expect TES 6: Valenwood, which will probably only let you play as an elf with your choice of sword or bow.
>>336316456
>maybe if i talk about shooting niggers he will think i'm not reddit
>>336310760
You forgot
>Microsoft store
>Windows 10 exclusives
>>336316806
>maybe if I keep accusing him of being from a website I don't like, he actually will be
Poor form.
>>336310760
At least all of them only really release shitty games that I don't care about. A shame about the decent old games that EA and Ubishit hold hostage though.
>>336316852
I think we'll witness a great split on PC soon.
M$+Nvidia/Intel VS Valve+AMD/open source projects
>>336316420
There's something that scratches a different itch about having a game with your porn
>>336317098
Too bad AMD sucks. Pretty much the only reason they pay lip service to open source is so people will write their drivers for them.
>>336316420
As someone who's consumed a lot of highly varied pornography there's definitely something unique to modded skyrim smut
>>336316767
>Imploding party
Well yeah, it's corrupt and establishment as fuck. They'd rather elect some fucking arrogant Mormon who literally thinks he's a fucking messiah, over a nationalist who wants to make America less of a cuck power then it is right now.
>>336317098
I have Windows 8.1 so I can't exactly say I have a good OS, but fuck Microsoft I'm never getting 10. It's like downgrading from cancer to late stage syphilis.
>>336313706
>You're not entitled to get your games the way you want.
"The customer is always right," you stupid fuck, that's how business works. You are nothing without the people who buy your shit.
>>336317474
>Too bad AMD sucks
>>336317310
>>336317532
Well yeah, you can't exactly find busty qt's capable of breast expansion and laction, with horse cocks above their vaginas in real life.
>>336309634
How disgusting, I refuse to support any publisher trying to break the Steam monopoly, I demand only one market because as a PC game consumer I am a complete moron.
>>336317474
>use Linux
>want to support AMD because they're much less cancerous than Nvidia
>their drivers are still trash
There is no fucking winning.
>>336313706
>You're not entitled to get your games the way you want. Someone else invested a shitload more time and money (read: risk) than you.
Yeah, that risk was trying to satisfy the market, not "a bloo wooby woo please buy my shit i put lots of money into it"
If it's shit (and it is) it's not entitled to revenue you fucking idiot. Learn 2 buisness.
>>336317646
Todd pls go.
Oh great, less garbage on Steam I guess.
>>336317712
If it can reassure you, Nvidia drivers aren't any better these days.
TPB or equivalent gaming client when?
>>336317098
Don't forget that vulkan isn't just windows, Vulkan works on mobiles too
>>336317915
The proprietary Nvidia drivers are the only ones that are on par with Windows drivers.
I really hope AMDGPU will be better with Polaris.
>>336317592
>The customer is always right
Fact: "customer" is used in the royal sense, and does not mean you in particular.
It is only true if customers in general stop buying a product. It's an extension of the idea behind "voting with your wallet".
I guarantee you devs don't give a truthful shit whether YOU alone buy their product, because whether you do or don't a lot of other people will. Launchers or no launchers.
>>336317764
No product is entitled to revenue, yet you're a part of a few, an band of autistic brothers, who think it's shit for whatever non-reason.
learn 2 "buisness" indeed. Devs and publishers are making money. If they tailor made a copy of every game for every individual consumers demand, they'd go bankrupt. Instead, they make a game knowing that a tiny minority (you) is unhappy with it. They still make money whether you, individually, buy it or not - and the reality is that's exactly whats happening. Your individual sale is NOT a market force.
>>336318103
I've noticed that vulkan got installed recently on my system, but I have no fucking clue which program did that, because I never intentionally downloaded it.
>>336318278
GPU drivers probably
>>336311821
GOG galaxy is bloat as fug though. They really need to work on optimization.
>>336314836
what third party is on origin
>>336311045
Nobody else commented on this webm so I will.
kek this gay wasted his money
Bethesda games are garbage anyway.
>>336314667
You can't have multiple monopolies of the same thing you retarded faggot
Sorry guys but since we're bringing mods to consoles we'll need to monetize them, console players will pay for them and to not have a disparity we need to do the same for PC.
Understand that bringing mods to consoles is a hard process and it's not like we'll do it for free, there's a lot of work involved and it takes a lot of time from our devs to implement this system.
In the end you'll understand we're doing this for the good of the community, stay safe.
I don't give a fuck about Steam, another launcher sucks but whatever, The main thing people should be worried about is if they lock down the modding. There NEEDS to be alternatives to the official Beth platform, you know they won't let nude or sex mods on there. And it's not just deviants who should be worried. Mods are shared with consoles now, what about mods that could only be run on a capable PC? Is Beth going to have a PC-only corner? What about load order mods or script extender?
>>336318278
It's part of your GPU driver, just like OpenGL.
>>336318556
Says the guy who clearly has no idea what he's even talking about.
>>336317310
Is it the itch I get in my eyes?
I get that when I see these fucking awful sex mods. Makes me want to scratch my fucking eyes out.
>>336318198
try to encourage people to have higher standards then, don't settle for trash because lots of other people buy trash.
>>336318610
You're right, if we had steam and steam alone it would much better for the market
If I don't play Bethesda's games, should I worry about paid mods?
It's not like a lot of good mods get released these days anyway.
>>336309634
>I'll make my own launcher like EA
>implying they won't jew on the mods
I bet they'll get a shit ton of players
you better sceencap this shit because this is something that will happen and shoudn't surprise anyone
>2018-2019
>websites that offer free mods are going to be taken down by the companies
>"Modder" is not a position on game development
>there are now official modders working for the developers
>things like bugfixes and new quirks put together in mods are going to be treated as DLC
>if you want to become an unofficial modder for a company you will have to pay a monthly fee
>pay an extra $1.99 to get your mod featured in the front page
>mods will require a monthly payment to keep using them
>get constant reminders in the game when your subscription is a week away from being cancelled
>after starting the game you need to solve the QR code to activate the mod's features
this is only the beggining anons, mark my words
>>336313779
TES: Legends looks more fun than Hearthstone imo. Plus it looks like this might be a Zenimax thig, not just Bethesda. So Arkane and id might be affected as well.
>>336318765
forgot
>mfw
I fucking called this, I hope you guys enjoy paying for mods.
>>336318734
Who let you out of your retard cage?
>>336316408
>Gabe Newell doesn't know what's going on with his company
I can see through your façade. Interesting
>>336318371
>>336318597
I thought NVIDIA didn't like Vulkan or something, or that it is an AMD standard.
>>336318586
Pete Hines is like Satan's schedule manager.
>>336318765
>get constant reminders in the game when your subscription is a week away from being cancelled
>they do this with an in-game NPC who hunts you down and starts a conversation with unskippable dialogue to remind you about your subscription
>>336318653
I would if I could, but I think people are just getting cucked in general. I would love to see some sort of consumer revolt against the industry but it's never going to happen. Without a standout alternative, and I'm not aware of any off the top of my head, people are making a choice between solid and liquid turds to eat. It'll take another crash to level the playing field again. At first I thought Indie devs would be able to do it but they just can't seem to really challenge Triple A developers.
>>336318929
You're thinking of mantle
>>336318883
>Shut up nerd just fucking play the game!
It's good because Fallout 4 marks the death of Bethesda for me. To think I once respected them. Good riddance.
>>336318975
>sends a message to you through a runner or whatever email system.
>it's an ad for their subscription.
