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B...Bring it on!
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Who /uchigatana/ here?
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>pvp
>in a game where poise is turned off
>and the netcode is shit

Enjoy your stagger fests senpai
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>>336258749
Katanas are for shitlords
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>Four knights and watchers cos
Shit confirmed.
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>>336259162
i know, that's why i use them
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>>336258749
I just started playing DeS and am in Anor Londo. Isn't the uchigatana a low lvl wep? I don't get it..
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>>336261987
DaS**
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Ask the god of dark souls anything

I know it all
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>>336258749
it goes well with my fallen k***ht armor
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>>336261987
Weapons do not have levels in souls games

That's what upgrading is for, almost anything can be viable
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Says you but having to fight ganksquads constantly actually made me better at PvP. I can usually hold my own against two people now, with about a half/half win rate. The secret: people are impatient. They'll over exert themselves trying to kill you. Just take it slow with you coming in for a single strike before rolling away. Eventually one will go to heal, and that'll let you get a few hits in on the other one.
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>>336258438
>Purple Solaire isn't readying a pyromancy in the background to hit everyone

Shit image
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>>336262258
Basic bitch build

Acctual DaS III equivalent of yoga pants and uggs
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>>336262359
I didn't know you could keep on upgrading any item. thnx
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>>336261987

Even a piddly ass club can do endgame damage if you fully upgrade it. Weapon choice literally doesn't matter beyond some slight moveset changes. They don't call it fashion souls for nothing.
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memes
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Is the Estoc still OP?
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>>336258749
>Who /uchigatana/ here?

If I wanted to play with a katana then I'd play Nioh.
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How to win everytime
>play with katana
>have clothes that blend into the walls of the pontiff pvp area
>only summon people that have the fallen knight armor
>squat down in a corner and hide in plain sight
>critical attack them when they are turned away
>use glourious nippon steel to chop them down while they are rolling away in shock
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>using the fake firekeeper to level up
plebs
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>tfw beyblade build
Invading people trying to rush through the graveyard at the cathedral was the most fun I had in years. Block them so the hollows catch up and let it rip.
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>>336262794
>be fan of ninja gaiden on og xbox
>get 360 and buy ninja gaiden 2
>get xbone
>hate team ninja but don't really care cuz it's nothing special unlike NINJA GAIDEN
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>>336262964
tought i was the only one to use this one
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>>336262684

Where is saint bident and wolnir's holy blade

Mostly because I use those weapons
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Where is the best place to pvp? And does /v/ do any fight clubs?
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>>336262548
oh no fucking shit
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>start ds3 up six hours ago
>get to the high wall or whatever
>single purple summon sign at the first bonfire
>never see any sign again
Why can't I see any summon signs? Could I have fucked some settings up?
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>>336258749
Fuck you and your running r1 spammer shitlords.

I'm Berzerker Blade now because I like the katana balance in this game but don't want to be associated with scrublords.


Also Estoc and Washing pole are the only weapons I'd call unbalanced.
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>>336263984
is this your first time playing?
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>>336263027
i never found that item on my first play and was truly disappointed
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Malcolm here. Where are we meeting up bros?
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>>336263763

The current fight club is the area right after Pontiff Sulyvahn, with the pit below the belfry in Archdragon Peak and the first bonfire in the High Wall as runner ups.

/dsg/ hosts fight clubs in weiord places, but you have to be a little careful because nobody can agree if the meme level should be 80,100, or 120. Personally I think it should be 80
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>>336263984

Gotta be embered, what you saw was probably a purple red sign. You can summon for duels even when not embered, just not for co-op.
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>>336264154
No love for the kiln? pretty good spot imo, forces you to be aware of your surroundings
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>>336263984
The number of players is already decreasing. NG+ adds absolutely nothing and makes the game even easier. Meanwhile the PvP is broken and monotonous, two of the PvP convenants are complete shit, one is barely used and boring and the other is also slowly dying.

Many of the people I've talked with have actually moved back to DS2 or BB.
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>>336264154
I'm raising a sorcerer right now and I'm trying really hard but I don't know how I could get down to 80

This is what it looks like at 99:
=Build=
Sorcerer
LEVEL 99
VIG 27
ATT 30
END 20
VIT 7
STR 10
DEX 15
INT 60
FAI 7
LCK 12

As you can see I only have base vigor, not a lot of end at all, 15 dex for some cast speed, basic str...

Where could I save 19 levels at all?
I've been thinking of using prisoner's ring and leaving vig at 22 and end at 15 to save ten points, but then I'd have to give up the magic clutch ring
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>>336264154
I just build for 90. lets me PVP with 80 and 100 but I avoid the 120 meme builds.
SL 120 is way too strong in this game, quality builds can stack a ridiculous amount of HP/End/Carry Weight. It's too bad casters are even more trash at lower levels, but they're pretty much garbage anyway.
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>>336262964
man I wished the favor set would look good.
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>>336264342

>Bloodborne PvP
>better

DS2 I can agree with, but Bloodborne's PvP is even worse.
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>>336264467
Just give up, sorcs are so incredibly gimped in this game that it's not even worth it. If you win it's because you either got incredibly lucky or the other guy is terminally retarded.
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>>336264547
the only main issues are the gems and rakuyo, everything else got better when the dlc dropped
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>>336264578
Well, I have other characters already.
I've got a SL85 whatever guy (dude I played through the game with for the first time, just your basic sword and board. Can probably respec into something fun if I want to)

I have a SL89 heavy weapon guy, all out STR pretty much, using things like fume ugs, yhorm's machete, smough's hammer and such

Got a SL25 invader

Got a SL50 luck/bleed warden twinblade invader.

I know sorcerer is suboptimal, just trying to have some fun. But staying under 100 is hard already, getting to 80 seems impossible
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>>336264467

Just shave off levels in endurance. If you're only going up to level 20, that's, what, a bit less than a 20% increase from the base of 10? Just stick a chloroanthy ring on there. Farron Flashsword is the only thing I can think of where running out of endurance would be a problem since it's the only spell that can be combo'd and it's kinda shit.
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>>336258749
Of course the Joshuu poster would use a pansy weapon.
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There was a thread on leddit about 60/20 vs 40/40 quality build. Does anyone remember?
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>>336264823
The thing with end is that a single great heavy soul arrow already takes like 70% of my end

But even if I shave off some end, that'd be 5 levels saved at most (under 15 is crazy)
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>>336259525
I fucking lost my shit at that picture.
Don't even know why
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>>336264547
DaS2 gameplay is just unbearable after playing BB.
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>>336264342
>Hello I don't know shit; please rape my face.
DS3 has so many players trying to co-op or multiplayer.
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>>336264812

Staying under 100 is easy when you stop equipping all your weapons at once. Vitality is absolute garbage, one point in it lets you carry. 0.7 more weight, and its base is 40 already. All the good looking sets (barring cathedral knight) are lightweight for the most part, and you should be dressing for fashion. Just use mugenmonkey to determine the minimum vitality you need and only level it up to that.
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>>336264884

40/40 is better. 60/20 is for all intents and purposes 40/20.
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>>336265337
Link? I just want to see the thread.
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>mfw invading in Catacombs with Demon Axe and DSB
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>>336265205
I have 7 fucking vit. What made you think that this means I put any points into it?
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>>336265551

>invading Wolnir's bridge with a dragonslayer bow, obscuring ring, and an item trap

Most fun I've had all game tbbqh.
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>>336262623
>piddly ass club
the club scales like a motherfucker and will hit like a goddamn truck if you pump strength
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>>336265650

You going with 60 Int then? Just because there's a softcap doesn't mean that you have to reach it.
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>>336265789
If you want your sorceries to do anything you do kind of have to reach 60 int
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>>336262684
>Great swords
>Requiring skill
When your hyper armour lets you tank hits without getting staggered don't act like you're a good player.
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>>336259525
>that one red eye one
prefect
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>>336258749
>not using the washing pole instead
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>>336265337
Nevermind. Found it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4gioo4/important_psa_about_str_and_dex_scaling/
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>>336265831

Yeah, but at the expense of vigor and endurance? You can go down to 50 and give 5 more points in both.

What are your weapon stats?
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>>336265986
This image doesn't really apply to DS3 anymore. Washing Pole is nowhere near as crazy as it was back then.

>>336266025
>>336264467
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>>336262684
>Dragon's Tooth
>AA

Good. Very good.
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>>336266083

Oh whoops I'm just illiterate. Why do you need 15 dex?
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>darkmoon never ever worked in 100 hours of gameplay
>think auto summons are broken
>equip aldrich faithful
>a minute into my world and im summoned
Please,i don't want to farm for the darkmoon buff.
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>>336262684
>No Crescent Moon Sword

It's shit senpai.
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>>336266083
Everything still has phantom range on it

Nothing had phantom range back in the day on DS1 if there was a good connection, you could step out of the way of attacks

Thanks B Team
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>>336266253
I only truly need 12 for my weapon. 15 is, from what I was told, the softcap for cast speed if coupled with the cast speed ring.

But yes, I've been thinking about dropping that to 12. Would only save 3 points though, not that huge
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>>336266290

The best way to farm for darkmoon stuff is just use blue sentinels and stay at level 30-40 in the swamp until you get the 28 proofs you need (two can be found, remember). They share the same rewards.
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>>336266290
>I don't want to
Tell that to the people who farmed for pure bladestone in demon's souls and see how they'll respond.
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>>336266398

You can shave a few points off there, two. Casting speed differences are only noticeable because the sage rings bumps up 10 to 40. A few more points shaves only a few milliseconds off, which is lost in lag anyway. Don't underestimate the value of 3 points, though. That's a third of the way if you want to stay at 90.
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>>336265982

Why is there a red eye one? Why is there a watcher fighting the other two watchers?
Please spoon feed me lore anon. I'll post hotties for you
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>>336262684
Carthus curved greatsword is amazing
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>>336266587
I guess you are right, I should try to at least get to 90
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On pc, how can you see the steam profile from the person that invades you or the person you are invading? I here a lot of people saying thinks like "i watched the steam profile of the person i invaded and he was an animefag" etc. But i cant see it when i open steam overlay.
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>>336266989
steam overlay -> view players -> view recent players

something like that

you might have to guess who was who if you invaded a dude with multiple phantoms
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How many times can you actually respec in one playthrough?
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>>336266440
Summoning doesn't fucking work. Sentinels, Darkmoons, SL30 or SL80.

The system is broken. Many players simply never get summoned.
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>>336267260
Can you wield two of them and pretend to be using logarius wheel?
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>>336267261
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+many+times+can+you+actually+respec+in+one+playthrough%3F
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>>336267261
5 times a playthrough I think
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>>336267261
You can rebirth 5 times per NG (both respec and appearance chance counts down the number)
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>be lowly employee at From
>it's 2am
>spent all night drinking with bosses in izakaya, downing one sake shot after the other
>remember I have to finish the endurance progression and present it to miyazaki
>head hurts, everything hurts, hate my job anyway
>just shit this out

>next morning
>miyazaki only asked if I was done with the endurance project, didn't actually take a look at it
>it goes live and into the game as is
phew
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>>336267393
>>336267451

Damn so I can only try at least 4 times, the last to go back to what works.

At least NG+ and beyond aren't locked against other people when invading.
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>>336267520
This triggers me
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People can you stop leveling by SL 100 and max your weapon upgrades so that you can invade me or something?

It's boring to invade all the time. I want to be invaded too.
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>>336266832
abyss
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>>336258749
I tried it and wasn't impressed. It's too slow and does about the same damage as a straight sword, so why not just use a straight sword?
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what the fuck
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>>336262768
>He doesn't know
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>>336265857
greatsword swings are slow as fuck, if you don't have good spacing just about everything else can attack fast enough to stagger you.
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>>336268293
If you want to be invaded, leave some bosses alive and pop dried finger
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>>336269440

Ultra greatswords, however, have enough hyperarmor to tank through a lot, and can 3-hit most people, AND do two of those hits in the same combo 9 times out of 10.
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Does the greatbows still knockback if you don't have the necessary stats?
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Just so you guys really know.

There is NO poise in Dark Souls 3. None. Zero. It is actually turned off as per people who checked the code.

Physical Defense stat is practically useless. The only stats in defense that actually work are the VS Strike/Slash/Thrust damage stats including the magic ones of course. Physical Absorption does NOTHING.

Which means, DS3 is really pure Fashion Souls.
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>>336266335
is the range shit?
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>>336269732
i should have specified that i meant UGS, and what i meant is that the wind up is so slow that if you don't space properly just about everything that isn't a great weapon can swing fast enough to stagger you.
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>>336269928
I actually don't have a single problem with the no-poise/hyperarmor system, it's just silly that they still give you a poise stat on equipment when it is meaningless.
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>>336270242
not to mention a ring that literally does nothing
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>>336262684
am I retarded, or are claws not on the chart?
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How does obscuringring work?I can't see some people relatively close to me while it seems people see me just fine from anywhere,like the whole bridge length in irithyll where the crocdog is.
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>>336271190
claws are probably CC, unfortunately
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>>336266290
swap between blue sentinels and dark moon blades every minute or so and chill outside of pontiff's bonfire on the side plastered with dueling signs. worked for the ~23 I got last night.
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>>336271607
I will try it,but what's the idea behind it?
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>>336258438
ROll Roll Attack
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>invader tries to rush you down with straight swords or estoc
>caestus in my left hand for brain dead easy parrys
>if he survives the counter invader immediately starts running away towards the nearest enemy mob to hide behind and heal
>every single time
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>>336272370
i enjoy how many invaders try to parry my 2h UGS.
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>>336268824
Because they're weaboos.
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>>336259525
>Artorias' waifu and Sif watching embarassed
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>>336271793
my guess is that reequipping covenant items refreshes that you're actually on the list. any time I'm doing one of the equip to invade covenants, it's either right away or nothing, never have I been in the same area for 30+ minutes and had an invasion proc. since you get the same rewards from sentinels and darkmoons, baring the extras from killing aldrich's as a darkmoon, you'll have two covenants in case something is borked with one of them. maybe it's all just placebo, but it worked for me.
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Daily reminder that the bestoc is the only DS3 weapon that is good for pvp.
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>>336262684
>use Murakamo because it's fucking awesome
>see list
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>>336273615
Fixing to use it on my next character, how good is it damage wise vs swing speed?
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>>336262684
>tfw greataxe user

Been wanting to change my build though
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>>336273751
It's pretty quick, bout the strength of a normal greatsword.

Gets a bit of hyper armor on the swings, too, which is nice for smacking shit. Never really find myself using the weapon arts on it, because the spin just seems too punishable.
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>>336273751
Well, I went without using a straight sword until Nameless King, but now I feel all weapons are weak compared to them PVE wise. I mained Murakumo before Nameless.

Its good, but there are strictly better weapons imo. From really fucked the balance when SS's are better in almost every way to every weapon class/type.

Its hard fighting my autism that tells me to just use OP shit.
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>>336274191
>>336274037
Looks pretty good. I'll get started on the build soon, and if from pulls their finger out maybe I can get some PvP done as well.
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>>336274448
I've gotten some decent PvP with it.

It's got a bit of surprise factor, since it's not a SS or Estoc. It can take someone down pretty quick if they're reckless, too.
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>>336265857
>roll through GS
>hit before they can recover
>repeat until dead

You kill a lot of GS users this way. Avoiding this takes quite a bit of skill and reading your opponent.
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>>336273615
>use Lucerne because I love spinning around
>see list

g-guess I'll go reinforce a washing pole
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>Use Black Knight Glaive
>mfw 1 hitting people with the r1+sword art combo
I use the exile greatsword and black knight greataxe as well, it's so easy to kill estoc/dark sword r1 spammers.
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>>336258438
New to the game here, was thinking of running a spear/greatshield build. However spears scale with dex and the greatshield I want needs 36 str. Any recomendations? I don't feel like starting a new character after ~4 hours of grinding the lothric set.
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>Invade
>Host is waiting with 3 phantoms
Every fucking time. I just want the god damn rewards so i can get the covenant rewards.
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>>336275931
get to the cathedral and join the fingers obviously
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>>336275931
doesn't matter what you do, trying to use a spear behind a shield is just going to get you backstabbed unless you're in a doorway or something
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>>336276196
I get that to tweak stats, but is it even possible to effectively run spear and great shield together?
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So when's that h4ck3r getting banned? I want to PvP again.
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>>336275692
it's a retarded list, the lucerne is pretty much on par with the black knight glaive
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>>336276412
40/40 and refined pretty much always ends up doing more damage than sharp with 40 dex, so you'll likely go 40 STR regardless.
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>>336262248
Why are you such a faggot?
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greataxe/yhorms str build or astora greatsword chaos/dark infused build?
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>>336277972
astora GS has a great moveset
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>>336277972

Never infuse in this game. Raw or heavy/sharp/refined plus any enchantment will always outclass infused
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>Invade in Anor Londo
>Host is wearing full Artorias set, Dork Sword, and Grass Crest Shield
>Immediately rushes towards me as I approach
Practical free win
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>>336262964
How?
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I want to have sex with her
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>>336281554
babby arms

giraffe neck

anorexic body, compete with difficult breathing
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>>336262684
>mfw using only Power Within and Old Wolf Curved Sword in PvP
Thanks for the embers.
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>>336281758
I'm gonna make it hard for her to breath.
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>>336281554
why is she slimy and reptilian? I thought that dragongrills were fluffy
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>>336262684
I use dark sword and you cant do anything about it

currently at a 22 streak niggas
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Fought my first DS3 lagswitcher last night. They spawned in, walked around and did emotes with no choppiness. Then they teleported all around the goddamn place as soon as combat began.
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>>336282267
treat frail creature with care
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>>336281554
>her
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>>336271530
Once you break lock on range with people you're gone, it tends to last for a bit as you re-enter range, either due to lag or design, but you can get pretty close before suddenly appearing on people. But once people realize you're using it they'll just get super defensive since you're using the ring
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>>336264154
SL 80 as a meta is buttfuck retarded, and the people pushing that shit should be ashamed of themselves. I mean for fucks sake, it was 120 in DaS 1, and that required much less investment in everything.

100-120 is fine, 130-140 would be ideal for magicfags.
>hurr but magic sucks anyway
Okay, but it'd be nice to be able to pretend you can play in PvP instead of SL80 where it's a bigger joke build than dual-shields and it's nothing but quality build cancer.
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>>336286408
>100-120 is fine,
No it's not. It's for shitters who don't understand the idea of build diversity or anything else.
> I mean for fucks sake, it was 120 in DaS 1
That's completely and utterly meaningless.
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>>336286519
>No it's not. It's for shitters who don't understand the idea of build diversity or anything else.
>build diversity
>SL 80
Are you fucking joking? the only people pushing this meme are 40/40 estoc shitters who think "works on my machine ;^)" is a valid justification for the meta.
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>>336286408
You will literally get no one outside of fightclubs to play with at 120+ except for the once in a blue moon rare ng+ guy

This is why people want to stop at 100 or under
Because that's where 99.9% of the player base stop
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>>336286716
SL 125 here, I still get a fuckton of action with invasions, both receiving and giving.
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>>336286691
>Are you fucking joking?
No. Apparently you're so fucking brain damaged that you can't understand how an SL80 meta works. Here's a hint: you don't always hit softcaps.
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>>336286927
>you don't always hit softcaps.
So you're proving me correct then? Because magic is only barely viable at the softcaps, and isn't even worth mentioning before. At SL 80 you practically have to give up nothing to sit at 40/40.
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>>336259525

Sometimes. Sometimes you just come upon a perfect picture. All that fucking perfection.

>one red eyed watcher

God I love little details like that.

Perfection.
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>>336287114
>So you're proving me correct then?
No, you're misinformed and dumber than fuck.
>At SL 80 you practically have to give up nothing to sit at 40/40.
Yeah. You're fucking retarded.

I can't even bring myself to blow you out. You're too fucking stupid. Not worth the time. Enjoy your cancer meta, you fucking scrub.
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I dont know why everyone is hating on red invasions.

They are adrenaline inducing as fuck, especially now that invaders are allowed to heal too.

>cosplaying a darkwraith in farron
>invading people
>prioritizing the dogs of farron first because they are the greatest enemies of the darkwraiths
>tfw slaughtering phantom after phantom and getting to the host who does the collapse gesture
>tfw taking your just reward
>tfw helping the same people you invaded kill the filthy abyss watchers by putting down summon sign

and another time
>invade some gank squad
>mad spirit invades
>mad spirit and I obliterate the ganksquad
>invade the same guys moments later
>the same mad phantom invades
>we destroy them again
>respectful gesture to the madbro

Shitters can cry about M-MUH 2v1 ;;; all they want, I am loving this new invasion mechanic.
Sure, I don't win all the time, but I just want to have fun.
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>NG+
>Suddenly can't stop invading people when I turn on Aldritch Faithful.

FINALLY. Also:

>tfw fellow invader sees you hanging by the knights with their armour on and the disguise ring.
>tfw he joins you and you both wait for the Host.
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>>336287275
>I can't even bring myself to blow you out
Because you can't you autistic shitter. SL 80 is fine for you because you run around with a dark sword and the fallen knight set like a tremendous faggot and pretend that this is a perfectly reasonable meta. If you actually enjoy cancer wars than more power to you.
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>>336286906
>receiving

So you didn't finish the game or are in NG+?
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>>336264473
Mixes well with the brass set
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>>336287481
You can make a shitload of builds at SL80-90
I'd know, I have multiple there myself.

And no, they're not estoc spammers or quality dork swords.
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you know i pvp a shitload and now i just dont find it fun

now i just obscure ring and greatbow, dont care if i lose at this point. i just like pissing off hosts and their billion phantoms
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>>336287481
>Because you can't
You're right. Because no matter how overwhelmingly wrong and stupid you are and no matter how effectively I highlight this fact, you're not going to listen or learn.

You are a garbage player with garbage opinions.
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>>336287468

>tfw no SK weapons to go with the armor set

Why?

The weapons are in the game already.

Why can't the players get them and use them too?
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>>336287484
NG+. I get invaded frequently enough to consider going unembered to avoid invasions in areas where I'd want to kill myself IRL if I got invaded in.

>>336287626
Whatever you say buckaroo, as long as you're having fun that's all that matters I guess.
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>adore Wolnir's Holy Sword's design
>adore it's weapon art
>it's too slow to be viable in PvP at all
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>>336268272
>They turned around on your screen
>They still got backstabbed
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>>336267520
shit. is this chart for real? it really just stops at 40 like that?
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>finally get another invader who isn't dead on arrival in the gank forest
>he approaches the host and two phantoms, with me slightly behind
>notice red's name is DOVAKHIN, or some gay permutation
>it needs to be done
>backstab him
>finish him off with the tip of my flamberge
>immediately get gang banged by R1 dark sword spam
I'll win one of these eventually
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>Invade some faggot with 3 phantoms
>They all rush me
>mfw I'm using warden twinblades + carthus rouge and have iron flesh at the ready
>Spin right into them
>2 drop dead immediately
>Last phantom tries to be a tough guy and mashes R1 against his face with his dark sword
>Bleed him out too
>The host turns to run
>There is no escape
I love it when the host runs after you facefuck all his phantoms. He knows he doesn't stand a chance.
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>>336287863
yup
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>>336268272
>kicks someone into the abyss
>immediately turns around to avoid having the same shit happen to him

Smart man.
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What level should I be when facing abyss walkers? Im using the starting Knight gear and ive leveled about 5 times and have a broadsword +1 with 7 estus flasks at +1 against him.
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>>336288156
Like 25-35 I think

You should easily have a +2 or +3 weapon by now
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>>336262684
>bandit knife being easy to use
>no broken straight sword
>greatswords are difficult
Stupidest shit I've ever read in my life, and I steamroll dudes with GS nonstop.
There is less skill doing sweep spam in 2v1s and 2hand r1 spam in 1v1 than any other weapon. At least with thrusting weapons and spears you have to think about how the fuck to fight multiple players solo.
Probably the only correct thing is the whips are all in the trash square.
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>>336288156
at the very least 30.
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>>336287419
I agree with you, but remember /v/ is shit at the game so they will cry if something is not in their favor
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>enter world right infront of host
>enters boss room

Fuck this. Honestly you shouldn't be allowed to enter a boss room in this situation
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>>336270014
its janky as fuck with the weapon art

sometimes it just goes straight into the ground near their feet, it wont hit if they are above you in elevation

does decent damage though. not sure if the art is affected by the dex. i was 29/29 and was hittin almost 400

but the weapon itself has split damage so its just shit
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>>336264467

25 or 20 vig

30 or 35 atune

60 int

thats it, use flashsword as a melee weapon you dont need anything else. 20 vit is more than enough to survive getting chunked even in rags
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Was the tank parry patched or am I just experiencing lag?
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>>336262684
>No Twin Princes Greatsword
Do people just not know about it?
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>trying to roll past a spear user
>they pivot on their heels and hit me with the third attack of their spam
How to comabt?
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>>336288305
Did I make a wrong turn somewhere? ive only fought two bosses up to now and one being the starting boss
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>Invade Host.
>He has a phantom with him.
>Kill the phantom.
>Host runs the entire length of the map back to where signs are.
>Summons another phantom.
>Phantom dies like a retard by falling off a cliff.
>Host runs all the way back to summon another.

Jesus, are you that afraid to fight one person?
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>>336262248
wwhy shrek is piss. why shrek is piss #italiano
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>>336289929
I feel like 3 has attracted the worst of the pansy people to the souls series. instead of just fighting it out people all run away. Invaders and hosts alike.
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>love invading at the first dragon peak bonfire
>secretely hoping it will become a pvp hotspot
>all the people i invade have summons
Why anyone would drop his sign there is beyond me.
>nobody seems to want me in their worlds
>get invaded by a sunfag
>looking forward to it
>empty ta nice little arena for us
>he acts like a total dick
I dont even know why im posting this.
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>>336258438
>Wrathful Sun Solaire is a summonable npc in an expansion
How would this make you feel?
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>>336290336
the boss there is stupid simple and an easy ember + souls. what I don't get is why anyone would bother summoning for the "one shot boss"
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>>336258438
This would probably be an easy fight honestly. Only bottom feeding scum love the whole sun thing and solaire is a nobody nothing.
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How viable is the Dragonslayer Swordspear? Planning on offhanding a Simple Caestus for that lightning spam.
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>>336289552
More rollings
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>>336290445
I usually summon when i see a sign, so i get that angle. I guess people are really in it for the souls.
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>>336290445
Because they're pussies who haven't gone through and tried it alone.
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>>336289859
You forgot to go to crystal sage and onwards in crucifixion woods
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>invade dungeon
>chameleon for the fun of it, turn into a jailer head
>crawl along the floor as a goofy little head, turn a corner
>face to face with another jailer head
>become friends
And then a blue decided that no fun was allowed in the dungeons.
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>everybody you invade has at least two invaders
wew miyazaki
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>>336289929
Invaders are no different, hit them once and they run to hide behind enemies and heal and once they run out of estus good luck seeing them again as they high tail it to the opposite end of the map
Between that and the caestus turning fights into baiting for the first parry this is the worst souls pvp yet
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>>336290692
crucifixion woods? that isnt the woods with the giant cursed tree boss is it?
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>>336264154
>80

Retarded opinion discarded.
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>>336290886
>Get invaded.
>Pop giant seed.
>Invader disconnects.
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>>336277240
I have this saved from another time. Is there a source to a longer version/the rest of it?
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>>336290886
>Invaders are no different, hit them once and they run to hide behind enemies and heal and once they run out of estus good luck seeing them again as they high tail it to the opposite end of the map

Fucking this, every time I've been invaded I try to 1v1 them and they end up doing this shit, so I summon a gank squad just to piss them off and then they probably come on here to complain about how I'm a faggot with no honor who's scared to 1v1
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>>336290445
I only ever summon 1 sunbro if there is one so I can get a medal from the fight as well.
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>>336290886
2H a great weapon and never do running R1s and then have fun not worrying about ever getting parried again. makes pvp a lot more fun imo.
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>>336291435
I call bullshit, they could just black crystal out.
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>>336287996
>>336267520
anyone have more of these?
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>>336290886
>>336291640
I only do that when the host has phantoms.

I don't mind if the host heals either, because he has much more to lose than I have. Besides, I can heal too, and an invader should be prepared, which means that half estus should be more than enough.

But if he pulls out two sunbuttbuddies, you bet your ass I will get behind enemies and wait for another invader / them to charge in and die
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>>336291767
2H UGS or GA and you don't have to worry about R1s getting parried. I swear the UGS and GA crowd are worse R1 spammers than straightsword and thrust weapon users.
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>>336291836
The black crystal disconnects you from the world famalam.
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>>336291857
That's what I'm talking about, if we 1v1 that's cool and fun, but all but 1 invaders I've encountered immediately run to mobs for protection even tho it's just me, so I'll either summon or pop a seed
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>>336291930
i probably R2 more than i R1 with the astora GS.
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>>336291930
Of course they are worse spanners, why do you think they were almost exclusively the ones bitching about poise
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>>336291930
>using farron greatsword
>invader starts using his parry more often
>switch to zweihander and two hand it
>mfw as he still tries to parry it
>mfw as he is completely smashed by German engineering
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>>336292107
probably because it takes 3 years to get into the hyperarmor part of the attack
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>>336273867

>Main heavy weapons for the entire series
>Feel like I'm gimping myself the entire time I'm playing when Estoc users can roll 5 times and attack 5 times at full stamina

I'm seriously considering switching to one handed weapons for now.
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>>336291435
>host pops seed
>cast hidden body + slumbering ring
:^)
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>>336289929

Don't forget

>summons the same phantom you killed

It's infuriating knowing that the host and his phantoms have a fair likelihood of being friends on some voice chat client.
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>>336292294
Don't try to roll like them. Try guessing when they want to attack and punish them with your hyper armor.
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Is it me or is heavy armor shit in this game? I am stuck to fat rolling, and I don't feel much benefit. At level 40 even the abyss watchers can one shot me and the littlest of attacks staggers me.
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>>336292874
>can one shot me

bullshit
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>>336292874
Vitality is a thing.
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>>336292874
you're right and wrong and lying all in the same post.
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>>336293047
>>336293047
I currently have 19 and a havel's ring and I still fat roll with an entire set of lothric armor. The fire sword combo from the abyss watchers stuns me and I die in one combo.
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>>336258438
I haven't played this game yet what's the point of having mad phantom?
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THE VILLAGERS START COMIN AND THEY DONT STOP COMIN
FED TO THE TREE AND I HIT THE BONE RUNNIN
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>>336291640
>see lone host
>start fighting
>phantom tries to one shot me with with some shit

Trust nobody
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>>336293325
Technically you can do whatever you want as one, but in the end you always just end up fighting everyone.
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>>336293227
its simple. ether pump more or wear lighter armor as to not fat roll. as for getting one shot pump some damn vigor. This isn't dark souls 2 were every level gives you hp, you have to pump the stat yourself.
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>tfw crab swamp invasions
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>>336292874
that isa fantastic photo of the chosen undead
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>>336289552
improving the tracking on spears was the best thing ever.
also having an unpunishable attack that can OHKO you at a distance.
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>>336293779
Of what attack do you speak?
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>>336262684
I fucking love the Hollowslayer Greatsword, never fails me.
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>>336294237
memeslayer's cuckspear
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>>336290886
A lot of them might think you have summons in progress. I know in DaS 1 sometimes I'd start taking hits out of nowhere then a dude would slowly rise up out of the floor and slide around.
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Nice game
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So dark souls. Is it worth playing? I've seen all these webbums of people doing silly shit, and it seems like it offers a variety of weapon porn and different builds, but I'm not sure if dumping 60 bones is a good investment.
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how much of a fag am I for using a bleed rapier in my off hand for parrying?
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>>336295107
never met that enemy, what the fuck.
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>tfw someone parries you twice in a row
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>>336295890
>he never explored the Profaned Capital
jesus christ anon, it's not even that big of a zone
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>>336295890
just more scat stuff

literal shit eating spiders
shit covered ashes
fat farting sloth shit monsters
shit pies
shit rope pies
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FGS till the day I die
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>>336296080
I have always wanted to parry someone and just walk away but I don't feel like I'm good enough to pass up a riposte when I get that lucky one in.
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>>336296080
>those people with huge weapons and caestus' doing nothing but spamming parries
there is no way to beat those people without switching weapons.
You may whittle them down little by little, having everything for naught when they heal. But eventually they will land that parry and oneshot you.
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>>336296080
>somebody tries to parry fish
>circle around and backstab him
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>>336296263
what's up you meme-loving fuck?
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>>336259525
>Artorias and the Abyss Watchers

that DOES sound like a pretty metal band name
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>>336296420
It's easy as fuck to parry and any semi-competent person can dumpster me.


But styling on scrubs is fun
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>>336292514
as much as you hate it, some people play dark souls as a co-op game.
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