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Where were you when Nintendo confirmed NX launch will be long lasting and perfection?

"We believe that when launching hardware, the amount of quality software for consumers to play that is available at launch is important, and that we ought to determine our launch dates based on this," he said.

"The fact that consumers spend more money in the holiday season may be a big factor in why launching then is a good way to start. However, our hardware and software business structure does not end in that year. We want consumers to continue to play this game system for many years, so we believe that in the beginning it is most important to make sure that everything is in order at launch. In that sense, our approach is that we should wait until we can provide a fully realized experience rather than rushing to launch in the holiday season, and this approach has not changed."

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-didnt-want-to-rush-nx-launch-says-system-/1100-6439399/
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>>336240643
>Where were you when Nintendo confirmed NX launch will be long lasting and perfection?
Nice, I bet this time they really really mean it, unlike the n64, the GC, the 3DS and the WiiU!!!
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>>336240643
He's not wrong, but delaying Zelda U just so it could have a simultaneous NX port at launch was such a scummy fucking move that I probably won't be supporting Nintendo as much anymore after I buy that game.
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>>336240643
Sure he will nintenkiddie
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Sounds pretty solid.

But will the games be GOOD?
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>>336241631
honestly it's not that different than moving TP up for the Wii launch.
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>>336240885
>GC
>Not perfection
>NeoGAF screenshot in post
Trashed
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>>336240643
I want to believe m8. I really do. But i dont have any hope left in neo-nintendo.
VERY low expectations this time might be for the better.
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>>336240643
NX will fail, just buy a PS4 senpai.
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Don't really see why having a strong launch line up matters. Pretty much every console ever has had a shit line up and that's very much expected.
People will jump into buying new hardware if they feel the price is right and see a future in that console. Just look at the PS4.

They just need to make sure the NX has good specs at price equal/lower than PS4 and the games and sales will come to it.
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>>336242134
You're right, it's not, but it doesn't make me feel any less cheated in the end.

I'd probably feel less sour about it if they decide to give us a downloadable demo at some point this year, however unlikely that is.
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>>336242610
the gamecubes launch and launch window games are still being played today.
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Tatsumaki Mishima is so fierce looking.
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>>336242910
He has burgers in his tie?
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>>336242610
Because people buy the system to get to the games, and in the case of nintendo many people just look at the nintendo boxes to play mario.

People bought the nintendo to get to SMB.
They bought the SNES to get to SMW.
They bought the N64 to get to SM64.
They bought the wii o get to NSMB and the DS for NSMB DS.

The cube had no launch mario game and the wiiu launch mario game was incredibly half assed.
These systems also both sold poorly.

The games matter.
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>>336243240
It's how many Americans he's killed.
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>>336243283
Having a strong launch line up is probably more destructive if anything.
People are already putting a down a lot of cash on the hardware, so then they might only buy 1 or 2 games max as that's all they can afford, then just wait for the rest to go down in price.
In terms of development, it also means all your big guns are out the door right away and customers will need to wait literally 2 years for more games then.
The optimal strategy is to have 2 great games at launch (Mario Kart would be the best choice for NX as it's their best selling IP right now), then another game in the next quarter, then one after that. A steady stream which would give a steady stream of sales, rather than one huge bulk at the start (of which production of consoles wouldnt be able to meet demand anyway, thus lose sales) and then a 2 year draught.
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>>336242910
>Tatsumaki Mishima
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>>336243706
That's literally what Kimishima wants to do with the NX though. Strong launch lineup, supported by more games in the following months.

He won't, because they promised this for generations, but that's the exact plan.
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>>336240643
The problem with this argument is that the only people are care about Nintendo franchises are Nintendo fans, and most Nintendo fans feel downright neglected and pissed at this point because of the Zelda shenanigans.

So honestly I think they've basically fucked themselves either way. There's very little they can do to dig themselves out of this.
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>>336243706
>>>336243283
>Having a strong launch line up is probably more destructive
Thats dumb. Having a stong diverse lineup wull only help bring in more folks who have different tastes in games.
Take the PS2 lineup for example.
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>>336240643
>trusting anything Nintendo says
>in 2016

Seriously, are people this stupid? I'll wait and see when they reveal the NX. But I don't have high hopes for it.
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Dude looks like some Yakuza boss or something like that. He probably doesn't even care about video games.
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>>336240643

So the president said some shit that fans want to hear?

NINTENDO IS SAVED
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>>336244139
You could probably count the good PS2 games at launch on one hand, and it had the advantage of having strong third party support. PS2's library was pretty pathetic until a year in, when everything awesome dropped.
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>>336244139
Having a good line up would be a dream, but it won't happen, so my point is they should focus on getting the hardware right.
That will strengthen the life-span of the console by getting 3rd parties interested, rather than have them spunk their load at launch and then wonder why people are selling their consoles when the games run dry for long periods.
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>>336240885
I think their version of a launch drought, and the consumer's version are two different things.
The consumer expects a 10 quality game line up with at least 2 or 3 must-buys like Super Mario: Completely Innovative Edition. And Zelda: You Ain't Neva Played Dis Shit Be-fo.

But their idea likely consists of 4 or 5 quality games at launch, with 1 must-buy. And then line up quality games to be released over the following year.
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>>336240643
So I have until March to finish my backlog? I'll get to it, I guess.
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>>336244893
>The consumer expects something that literally never happened before in the history of videogames
Ok.
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>>336244268
I think he's a former bank exec.
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>believing anything Nintendo says

We'll see. Recent history shows that Nintendo has a hard time supporting their hardware.
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>>336246320
That's because:
1. They're basically the only ones putting software out on a regular basis.
2. They have both a console and a handheld to maintain.
If the NX finally ends up being a crossplatform capable of running all the games then they'll solve the second issue, meaning they'll be able to support it just fine.
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>>336246735
They hardly maintain the handheld though, its just low tier budget titles.
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>>336247210
I think with having one main focus that would eventually have to change though
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/v/ ruined me, I can't anything someone says on here when they are trying to hype something up for the future.
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>>336248680
what about if someone says that something or someone is doomed, do you buy that?
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>>336240643
Is it true that he forced Iwata to commit soduku?
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>>336240643

Here's hoping the launch delivers

As great as it was New Super Mario Bro's U did a horrible job as a launch title

3D World should've been tne launch title

Word is NX is getting launched with a new 3D Mario, that along with Zelda U/NX is already perfect
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>>336240643
>quality software
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>>336240643
does this guy even know anything about video games?
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>>336240885
? the 3ds is the best selling console this gen and has a great line up of first and 3rd party games
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Dragon quest 11 launching in march? Also nintendo said no games ay e3 but what about square for nintendo?
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>>336240643

>post your face when you will see Nintendo die in your life time
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>>336250283
Grow up, please.
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>>336249979
He was talking about the first year of the 3DS
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>>336250386
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daily reminder the wii u literally launched with nsmb and nintendo land. they launched a console with that and thought it would sell
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>>336242510
Basing console quality on sales instead of games is the stupidest meme the SJWs at Neogaf ever came up with
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>>336250109
I imagine Nintendo will let Square Enix advertise DQ11 for NX at E3.

System will probably get 2 different launch bundles. Zelda or Mario in the west. Mario or DQ11 in Japan.
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>>336251763
Buzzwords
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>>336249239
Actually laughed. I'm sorry Iwata, I love you.
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>>336250283
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>>336252186
It's a fact. All neogaf users are SJWs, because the ones that want free speech or are against political correctness get banned.
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He will make you understand that nintendo is dead

YAKUZA KAMIKAZE
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I am definitely interested in seeing how the NX will turn out
If it'll turn out bad, well no hustle. There's always next generation
If it'll turn out good, i'll have a new console to play on

You guys are always so pessimistic, why don't you try to look at things in a more positive way
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>>336246272
Consumers are fucking stupid. Look at steam reviews.
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>>336253794
Fuck off nigger
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>>336242309
>Gamecube
>perfection
18+
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>>336242721
you weren't cheated in any way shape or form
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It means nothing if they don't have third party games.
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>>336244383
IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GET OFF OF NINTENDOGAF

REEEEEEEEEE
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>The NX will be a failure and Nintendo will be mobile exclusive in your lifetime
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>>336240643
>Quality software
Why isn't Reggie or Bill running the show?
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>>336240643
ACTIVATE IT
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>>336240643
>Nintendo64 all over again

I'm worried guys
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What Nintendo and Nintendo fans think is a great launch lineup probably doesn't align all that well with the greater game-buying public.
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>>336240885
Iwata is dead fucking retard.
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>>336240643
How can anyone be hyped about the NX after the disaster that 3DS and Wii U launch was? Wait at least a year nerds.
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Sure, exactly like what happened with the Wii-U, am I right? Good thing I didn't buy any consoles from this generation. I'd usually buy them all since I actually like vidya and don't give a shit about side mentality, but the only things I picked up were the handhelds. The 3DS really needs an upgrade, not that new 3DS shit. Too bad about the Vita, I liked all 12 games played on it, there's still some backlog of it left as well.
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>>336252381
What is this? What's the character's name? I need to find porn of this right now.
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>>336258616

>Sure, exactly like what happened with the Wii-U, am I right?

How come no one remembers the WiiU's launch? Yes it was barren but that's because Nintendo experimented with the idea of letting third parties have a shot at success without being sunffed out by first party megaton titles. Same reason why the 3DS's 2011 was so lackluster - Nintendo offered third parties a chance to stand up and, aside from a small handful of exceptions like ZombiU or portable Super Street Fighter IV, they didn't. If anything, Nintendo should have learned a lesson from that.
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>>336256029
>best Nintendo console ever all over again

Sure, it was a commercial failure, but why are you worried?
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>>336260606
>commercial failure
Relative to the Playstation, I suppose. The N64 was still quite profitable. It wasn't Nintendo's best console, though, that was the SNES.
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>>336240643

You better hope so

I'm glad I avoided getting a Wii U, none of tne games interest me and the hardware is still too late

If NX picks up the pace and the launch games are good I'll consider going back, I love their series so I want them to win me back
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>>336259623
Gogo from Big Hero Six
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>Nintendo
Legend of Zelda, again
Sticker Star 2
Mario and Sanic at the Olympic games
Amiibos, again

>Sony
Nier 2 by platinum
Final Fantasy XV
Persona 5
Final Fantasy VII Remake
Horizon Zero Dawn
Nioh
Dragon Quest XI
Dissidia Final Fantasy
World of Final Fantasy
Bloodborne
Hideo kojimas next game
Froms next game
Gravity Rush 2
kingdom Hearts 3
Ni N Kuni 2

I will never understand Nintendo fans
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>>336260857
With OoT/MM being better than LttP and SM64 being the best Mario ever, I'm not really sure how you come to that conclusion.
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>>336240885
Good thing this isn't Iwata then :^)
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>>336259623
http://swfchan.com/35/171728/?Big_Hero_6+GoGo_Tomago+Zone+baymax.swf
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>>336261315

>Sony coasts on third party support and Nintendo coasts on their own games

Tell us something we don't know.
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>>336241631
As someone who doesn't own a Wii U and is still interested in the new Zelda I have no issue with this.

You fell for the Wii U meme, faggot.
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>>336240643
Wasn't this guy supposed to be a 1 term president?
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>>336261631
Is that suppose to be insulting? Woud rather have tons of great video games than a few shitty games and McDonald happy meal toys.
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>>336261315
Out of all these games (including Nintendo's list), I think I might be interested only in maybe Persona 5. Literally everything else are sequels, rehashes and shit.

And the thing is, I don't even need to buy PS4 for Persona 5.
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>>336240885
holy fuck lol
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It doesn't matter I'll just do what I always do and wait until the NX is hackable.
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>>336262143
>not excited for nier 2 by platinum
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This asshole is a temp president right?

Right?
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>>336262319
Yes.
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>>336262353
>asshole

Better hope he doesn't read that unless you plan on hiring body guards, and no he's not.
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>>336254292
>not one decent Wii U game for 2016
>"lol u weren't cheated"

Yeah, no. All Nintendrones should be gassed.
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>>336240885
>Iwata Iwata Iwata Iwata Iwata

he's dead, in case you haven't noticed
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>>336240885
Well that's not Iwata so uh maybe.
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>>336262568
>SF0 doesn't count
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>>336261421
I'm not judging the consoles solely on Nintendo's first party output. As an overall console, the SNES was a better system because it actually had third party support.

If you want to make the case that Nintendo's first party stuff hit a major peak on N64, I won't dispute it.
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>>336262568
What the fuck do you even mean? The list of accessible and upcoming is on the table or lack of thereof, just google that shit, no one cheated Wii U's buyers.
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>>336249979
3ds didn't have shit for games in 2011 pickletits
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>>336262705
SF0 is absolute garbage, so no, it doesn't.

>>336262827
>defending Nintendo this hard

I bet you also think Kimishima made a smart decision in releasing the NX in fucking MARCH, you pathetic drone.
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>>336243283
nigga ain't nobody got no wii to play 2d Mario
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>>336263491
>SF0 is absolute garbage, so no, it doesn't.
Oh so you've played it?
What was bad about the gameplay?
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>>336263767
>What was bad about the gameplay

Shit controls, also blatantly cashed in on the nostalgia of an overrated N64 title.
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>>336264075
That didn't tell me anything about the GAMEPLAY
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>>336240643
This nigger used to work in a god damn bank.

If anything, he is the "suit" that v hates. I don't understand why everyone is so damn happy with him.
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>>336262705
>1 game in 2016
>you weren't cheated
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>>336264241
>controls
>not gameplay
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>>336264295

because he has a personal assistant that he forces to dress like princess peach
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>console releasing early next year
>don't use E3 to advertise it or any games it might launch with besides zelda
>more than likely unveil it during a direct where far less people watch
>more than likely undermarket it like you did with the wii u

I'm not sure where Nintendo gets the idea that this is smart.
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>>336264453
Gameplay is stuff pertaining game mechanics and level design, controls are their own thing hence it having its own separate term.
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>>336261825
So nobody should have an issue with this because... you were "smart" enough not to fall for the "Wii U meme"? Well congratulations, you faux prophet ass faggot, but what does that have to do with anything?

The lengths that you people go to defend this company is beyond astounding.
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>>336240643
If they don't announce NX at E3, then I'm finally buying a WiiU.
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>>336264813
It was basically 9 months until the Wii U got a game worth playing. They're trying to avoid doing that again

As for E3, just because Zelda will be the only playable game at E3, doesn't mean they won't unveil the NX in their E3 direct. Nintendo has been shunning E3 for years and other companies are starting to now too, not really unexpected. The Wii U wasn't available to play when they unveiled it in 2011 either, it was playable the following E3.
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>>336264917
No it isn't, retard. Gameplay is specifically defined as a catch-all category that encompasses ALL aspects of a player's interaction with a game, including controls, game mechanics, level design, etc.

Graphics, music and general aesthetic appeal are the only things that are actually distinct from it.
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>>336264295
honestly, no one can say anything concrete about him yet. Maybe people are being cautiously hopeful (though this should be rare on /v/). Maybe people still have a hate boner for Iwata so they take anyone else instead. Who even knows

The NX launch and anything beyond is where we will see his influence clearly
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>2017
>the year Nintendo died

I'm stocking up on popcorn starting in early 2017.
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>>336265372
>It was basically 9 months until the Wii U got a game worth playing. They're trying to avoid doing that again

>zelda
>???

But that's exactly what they're fucking doing now.
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>>336263389
I got 20
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>>336240643
good luck, most people which are into console gaming already own a ps4, no one would buy another nintendo console after the failure which was wii u.
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>>336240885
>the fucker had to die to stop this

How long until senile miyamto dies? when will nintendo be saved?
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>>336260350
You didn't want a version of Mass Effect 3 that came out months after all the other versions, runs worse, and costs $60 while it was already $10-20 on everything else?
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>>336265636
There are obviously more NX games than Zelda.
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>>336265608
What is it with this sub's obsession with Nintendo failing anyway?
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>>336265372
>It was basically 9 months until the Wii U got a game worth playing.

First 10 months of a console's release cycle need to be a roller coaster. The launch titles have to be great enough to be must buys for everyone. After that, every 4 months or so you basically need to be coming out with a must buy and AT LEAST one system seller every year.

The games sell the system. No amount of marketing, or hardware gimmiks, or online boondoggles will compensate for this. You make the games, the players will come to you.
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>>336266810
Literally nothing you just said applies to the PS4 and it's the generation's best seller
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>>336266676
A lot of NeoGAF users come here.
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>>336266676
>sub
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>>336266676
People have had a hard on for the idea of Nintendo failing for like 25-30 years now. Every single time they make a big decision people pop up to call them dead. It's just a constant at this point.
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>>336267094
hownew.ru
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>>336266676
You don't understand, anon.
THIS time for sure, they are doomed!
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>>336267118
Only since the GC really, and it was really quiet during the Wii era
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>>336267346
there are pictures of magazine articles from 1989 predicting how intendo would go bankrupt and lots of old forum posts from SA.
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>>336267291
>people have prophesized the fall of civilization for thousands of years, that means it can't possibly happen!
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>>336240643
Sure. Their definition of a good launch is starving the current console for content. Ihave no faith in the NX launch. If this shit had enough games to hold it's own ground they wouldn't have pulled a TP again making Zelda a 2017 title.
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>>336267201

>calling it a sub instead of a board?

get the fuck out of /v/
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>>336267560
A broken clock can be right twice a day but there's absolutely no sign that now is the time for it to be right.
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>>336267989
Nintendo will exit the hardware business if NX fails
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>>336267693
hownew.ru
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>>336240643
Hey this guy's alright
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>>336269289
that's what I would say too if my life was threatened by this shady yakuza guy
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>>336266983
The PS4 is a complete mystery.

This entire gen has been utter shit. Why are the consoles selling like hot cakes?
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I don't know anything about this new console, are we getting normal controllers back?
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>>336271929
It's not a mystery. It did well because A: Sony went really hard on advertising. They got tons of marketing going and worked out lots of deals with third parties that let them have exclusive advertising that push PS4, even if the games themselves aren't exclusive, and B: Everyone else fucked up and made them look good by comparison. Sony's first E3 following the PS4 reveal was basically just them dancing around and saying "see, we're not Microsoft!" and people loved it.

If Microsoft had actually given a shit about consumers, or at least were smart enough to not charge an extra hundred bucks for a gimmick no one wanted, or if Nintendo hadn't been so desperate to get that Wii money that they actually made a proper console and advertised it as a console and not as a controller, then Sony might actual have had competition this gen.
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Not when the games will come to the west as censorshit I won't
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>>336265372

>Shunning E3

Not really, Directs are just a better presentation because conferences demand other shit
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>>336240643
They did this with n64. Was going to launch in April 96 then got pushed back to september. It still only had 3 games at launch iirc. Maybe that was just japan.
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>>336243353
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>>336242309
>GameCube was my childhood system
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>>336240885
Glad Iwata is gone
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>>336244268
Neither does Reggie
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>>336265608

>Every year Nintendo is doomed after the financial report
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>>336242610
>They just need to make sure the NX has good specs at price equal/lower than PS4
It won't. It's using an ARM processor, and could very well be a handheld. If you're expecting it to compete with PS4 in power then stop.
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>>336240885

That's not Iwata though

>Neogaf

Oy vey
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>>336274741
>it's using an ARM processor
Source? Kinda want to read up on the specs unless it's all rumors.
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>>336253734
i kek'd, yeah 3 hours i just got here.

>tfw i can actually imagine kimishima doing that
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>>336240643
Shit posting aside, that's a respectable way of going about a console release. I'm excited to see how this pans out compared to the Wii U. I think most peoples expectations are low anyway, so maybe we will get a nice surprise.

At any rate, it will be nice to see Kimishima's first influential move from within Nintendo as President.
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>quality over quantity
This was their line about the N64, and if you really look at that thing it was garbage, with a garbage library. This bit of news doesn't really instill much confidence

They can take all the time they want, but if they are going to continue to be a toy maker they are gong to lose the industry they saved.
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>>336274741
>It's using an ARM processor
Source?
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>>336275789
>N64 launch
>Super Mario 64
>still the defining 3D platforming game after all these years

You're getting me all hyped up for the NX anon, stop it
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>New console getting released less than four and a half years after the Wii U
>Not rushing
I mean the 360 was relevant for eight whole years and somehow less than five counts as a generation now?
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>>336240885
The Gamcebube launch window had Luigi's Mansion, Rogue Squadron 2, Pikmin, Wave Race, and Melee which is more good games that the 8th gen has produced three years in.
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>>336242910
He looks like a fucking war samurai general, he is not fun like the japs before.
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>>336276306

Your underage is showing, faggot.

Most console gens were like 4 before the 7th came around.
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>>336276341
Stuff like Luigi's Mansion and Pikmin isn't going to get it done, whether they are good games or not.
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>>336276552
Ok? All I was saying was that GameCube didn't have a weak launch lineup in terms of games.
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>>336264917
holy fuck you stupid retard
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>>336276450
I'll give you the Dreamcast, Xbox, and GBA, but Nintendo made NES-exclusive games for eight years straight, and the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 both saw nearly a decade of support from Sony.
I can't be sure that Nintendo will cut off Wii U support when the NX releases, however that's what they did with the GameCubeq and Wii
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>>336276306
It really doesn't matter how long this gen has been, what matters is how long they were working on the NX and its games. That's what would determine how rushed it is.
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>>336246272
Your point? It may have never happened, but you still hear people complaining with ridiculously high standards and unrealistic expectations for games all the time, even here.
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> WILL make you understand

That's Yamauchi

> You WILL understand

Is Kimishima
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>>336276306

>Rushing

Normal console cycles are 5 years

A horrible console being short by half a year isn't a problem
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>>336276814
It wasn't that strong, either. That's what I'm trying to get across. The Cube dropped off pretty stiffly after the initial launch surge of dedicated Nintendo fans.
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>>336277341
Wasn't Nintendo pretty good for about 6 years until the Cube bombed?
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>>336277697
As far as I know, every Nintendo console has been 5 years, with the exception of the NES and Wii, which were 6, likely because they were so successful that Nintendo wanted to keep them around longer. I'm honestly surprised the Wii U only got shorted half a year and not a whole year.
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>you've lived long enough to see Nintendo pull their heads out of their asses and Toronto become a dynasty team
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>>336261826
Interim presidents can last for years while search committees look for potential replacements/willing applicants.

I thought it was going to be Genyo Takeda, since he like Miyamoto has been there from the beginning, but both he and Miyamoto are now directly under the president and leading Nintendo's development arms, or something like that.
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>>336240885
DELETE THIS
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>>336279339
I thought it would be Takeda, too, but looking at it now this makes more sense. Miyamoto was always a software guy, Takeda was always a hardware guy, and all they ever really needed at the top was a businessman.
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>>336275817

It was leaked that AMD was a) partnering with Nintendo for its new SOC and b) creating new x86 and arm SOCs

It has been revealed since then that the x86 chip was not for Nintendo so it must be the other one.
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>>336278201
>I'm honestly surprised the Wii U only got shorted half a year and not a whole year.
Just because they haven't replaced it yet doesn't mean it isn't dead in the water. Its first and last years were full of fucking nothing. It was basically a 3 year console.
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>>336280248
Oh, I know, that's just all the more reason it's surprising they're taking their time to replace it.
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>>336254213
>>336273361

People have nostalgia for PS2, so why not Gamecube? You kids are what, 21 or so now? It's the year 2016, not 2006. We're at that point where most of you who were born in the mid to late 90s are now officially adults. Technically you're all still quite young, but you're all adults legally.
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>>336280495
>taking their time
they were/are just busy taking every Wii U project they have and bringing it to the NX with no Wii U replacements, stop being dumb and talking like they're doing somebody a favour
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>>336280779
they're doing me and everyone who skipped the Wii U a favor, oh ho ho ho ho
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>>336280779
The fuck are you talking about? When did I ever imply they're doing anyone a favor? All I said I assumed Nintendo would be bringing NX out sooner, nothing more, nothing less. Quit being so hostile.
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>>336240643
I just hope they make better use of their IPs this time around.

Having a Wave Race and (proper) Pilotwings game at launch among others, for example.
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>>336280660

The only people with nostalgia boners for the GC are the ones that did not grow up with it. Most likely they got the console late into its life or just played through the Wii/emulators and did not get to experience the massive droughts while watching their friends play all the cool new games on their PS2s.

The GameCube only looks good n hindsight, as will the Wii U a few years from now.
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>>336281407
Bless you anon, dropping bomb truths.
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>>336281407

I grew up with both, and we were always playing games on my Gamecube. Sure, we all had our PS2s, but mostly to show each other games for an hour or two like Devil May Cry and Grand and Final Fnatasy. After that we just went back to playing Star Fox Assault or Melee. Clocked in God knows how many hours on Melee alone. I think I've got about 800 on Assault's multiplayer.
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>Another gimmick box
>Games get pushed back
>Shiggy kills more series
>Nintendo makes excuses and shits out more Mario shovelware to try to make time
> Wii U-U too happens
>Nintendo again blames it on XYZ instead of taking responsibility for being out of touch
>another failed gen

Can't wait for how dead Treehouse is gonna be this year
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>>336280091
>AMD was a) partnering with Nintendo for its new SOC
No, that hasn't been leaked
>b) creating new x86 and arm SOCs
They said they had two design ones, one x86, one ARM. They said one of they would be "beyond gaming", implying that one of the two design wins was related to gaming.

Further, AMD recently announced that it had 3 gaming design wins. We can assume one is PS4K. The two others could be a new Xbox and the Steamboy from Valve, or they could both be Nintendo, or one could be Nintendo.

We don't actually know, though, because it has NOT been leaked.
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>>336282032

If you owned both it's kind of an admission that you needed another console because the GC couldn't supply you with enough games.
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>>336281407
What?
94' with n64

>Melee with the neighborhood kids
>metroid Prime
>wanting to die the first time you accidentally drown a Pikmin
>Pokemon coliseum
>Custom robo
>SM sunshine
>Wario
>all those obscure JRPGS
GC was fun.
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>>336282383

Again, the problem is not with the quality of the software. Everyone knows the GC had good games. The problem was how sparse they were.

You didn't actually grow up with a GC if you don't remember walking into a Blockbuster and looking at the massive PS2 wall and feeling sad because you already played everything in the small GC corner to death. It was the same uphill battle the N64 couldn't overcome.
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>>336281407
>The only people with nostalgia boners for the GC are the ones that did not grow up with it.
This makes a lot of sense. I was 19 when I got the GC and I also had a high end PC and PS2, so it's easy to look back on fondly since there was no downside to owning one.

I can't even imagine kids who grew up with it as their only console though. That must have sucked

>there are kids who grew up with Wii U as their only vidya platform
>they will grow up hating the shit out of nintendo
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>>336282857
>Your nostalgia is artificial unless you experienced mine
Wow, this is some next level shit.

I went to blockbuster since a little before my n64. I always went straight to the GC racks when it was out.
I'm sorry you were that kid and could only rent the same game once.
I was speed-running and doing 1% runs before I even knew what they are.

I'm genuinely sorry your childhood was this shit.
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>>336283296
>reaching this hard to justify game droughts on Nintendo consoles
wew lad
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>>336283576
There's no arguments ps2 had more games than GC. I never implied otherwise.
I was implying though that the anon was already a miserable /v/irgin as a kid.

Although I do wish I had played more PS2 games as a kid.
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>>336240643
The longer this guy is in power, the more I realize that Iwata didn't run the company very well. It makes me feel really bad because he was such a wonderful person. If only he was able to live up to his full potential and worked as a head programmer.
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>>336284327
Ruthless iron fists make good heads.
Passive programmers falling into positions do not.
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>>336284169

What the fuck does this my childhood have to do with the droughts the GC experienced? It's an objective fact.
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>>336282346

I got PS2 because I thought it might be cool to own one, I didn't really need it to be honest. Though I admit that the fact that I had friends might have helped the replay value. Being a friendless NEET as of now, it probably wouldn't be enough. Which is what makes online play such a Godsend.

>>336284169

Basically this. I think some people just had miserable lives back then.
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>>336284327
He's mostly carrying through with Iwata's plans at this point

Give him 10 years and we can start to see some of his ideas instead of the ideas of his predecessor
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>>336284327

Well so far, we have shit E3, more censorship, and less games. I don't know how Kimishima is improving things. I think when Iwata got cancer and faded into the background, shit got worse.
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>>336284495
Make do with what you have?
It's not an argument of quantity, it's an argument of how much fun you had as a kid.
And people like you probably didn't have much.
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he is so full of shit.
great software line up huh. guaranteed the only proper game will be zelda. a last gen wii u uprez.

rest is gonna be gimmick "launch quality" trash.
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>>336284823
This is possibly the worst argument for a console having been good that I've ever read

Kids can have fun with ball in a cup, so what?
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>>336240643
THANK FUCKING GOD.
Everyone is going to be sour for about a entire year, But this is a very good move they are pulling.
More software to develop and in time to improve both hardware and software.

I just hope i'm alive to see E32017, Because there is a good chance they are going to rock the house with what they're eventually going to release.
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>>336284823
>>336284496

So your point is that I wouldn't mind owning a GC if I had other shit to do. Like you guys that just admitted to owning PS2s. It's cool and all but that's not how you sell a console to a kid. Specially when kids depend on their parents for game purchases and parents back then opposed buying their kids more than one console.
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>>336285139
>NINTENDO HAD FUN GAMES BUT PS2 HAD MORE SO HOW CAN I ENJOY MYSELF?

And this is possibly the saddest argument I've read.
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GC was great you niggers.

In fact every single console was worth having, even the dreamcast.

Can you say that in this gen? No you cannot.
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>>336284649
>Well so far, we have shit E3
Any game they have to show off was greenlit by Iwata. Even if Kimishima greenlit some, there'd be nothing to show yet.
>more censorship
Not even Nintendo of Japan's fault.
>and less games
See first point.
>I don't know how Kimishima is improving things. I think when Iwata got cancer and faded into the background, shit got worse.
You can just tell by the way he speaks about things and handles business. I have faith he can bring back Gamecube days Nintendo if given enough time.
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>>336285472

More games literally mean more fun in the non autistic world of people obsessed with melee 15 years later. I'm sorry that you think this is sad.
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>>336285508
Gen 8 isin't over yet, you faggoo
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>>336284464
>Kimishima
>ruthless iron fist

Please, just because he looks stern doesn't actually mean he's any more assertive than Iwata.
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>>336286109
We'll see what e3 has in store, but i'm betting its nothing and 2017 is when next gen begins.

>NX, 4.5, 1.1
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>>336285426

Well, I think you would enjoy Gamecube more if you had other people to play the games with regularly, like Melee. Like I said, I clocked in thousands of hours into that game. I clocked in almost 1,000 in Assault too.

On top of that I had Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2, Baten Kaitos, Baten Kaitos Origins, Chaos Field, Mario Kart, Time Splitters, Fire Emblem, Sunshine, F-Zero GX (another one with huge replay value), Ikaruga, Soul Calibur, Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2, Paper Mario, Sonic Heroes, Star Fox Adventures, Bloody Roar, Bomberman Generation, Bomberman Jetters, Kirby Air Ride, Mario Power Tennis, Megaman X Collection, and Megaman X Command Mission.

Add that all up and I honestly didn't need much more. It doesn't work for everyone, but it worked for me. I don't think my teenhood was false or horrible, like some of you said.
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>>336286615
He's actually really assertive. When he wants something to get done, it gets done to the letter. He was the President of Nintendo of America in the Gamecube era. It was failing worldwide, but he knows the North American market well and made it a success over here.
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>>336286615
Oh I never said he was.
I don't even have an opinion of him yet.
Just making a broad statement.
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>>336277526
Having Smash Bros at near launch is a godsend.
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>>336285850
"passionate" is the word you are looking for, not autistic. It's ok though, that's an easy mistake to make.
Actually it's not, how did you fuck that up nigger?
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>>336240643
It's been a long time since I've heard such wise words coming from the vidya world
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>>336243283
No they don't
The only thing that matters is the brand
It can cure cancer by giving you a blowjob and people would still call it kiddy shit and get a playstation
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>>336243283
I thought 3D World was great. Most fun I've had in a Mario game in ages.
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>>336287504
He isnt talking about 3DW, he's taking about New Super Mario Bros. U. AKA, the most soulless Mario game ever made.
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>>336261315
You misspelled "Square Enix", anon
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>>336264295
Games are for nerds we are all armchair business man talking about stocks and sales and shit and the profit of a company is a lot more important than the games they offer
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>>336287620
Oh, right.
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>>336287620
It really wasn't that bad, easily the best NSMB game. Nothing you'd buy a console for but it was a solid platformer
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>>336243283

Yeah, that was pretty much me. I never understood how any kid paid attention to shit like third party support, the amount of censorship there was, etc. What I wanted first and foremost was Mario, Donkey Kong, Kirby, Wario, Yoshi, etc. Games like Street Fighter, Gradius, and Zombies Ate my Neighbors were a bonus. They were fun, but not really main reason behind why I bought these consoles.

Did anyone here really think "well if it doesn't have Seiken Densetsu 3 then I'm not buying it!"?
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>>336288736

NSMBU's level design was superb, definitely the best in the series.
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>>336287620
>The most soulless Mario game ever made

That title goes to NSMB2 anon.
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>>336242721
But this is wrost they arn't showing anything of the NX or the NX version ogf the game at e3 and yet are banking all on zelda to sell a console noone has seen.
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>>336261315

Over the years people did nothing but bitch about Nintendo reusing their IPs. It's ironic that third parties have come to this and no one is saying a thing. People wonder why Nintendo has been doing this, but the reason is quite obvious. When your company is around long enough, there will no doubt be several iterations of established IPs. This should have been obvious to most, but to this day escapes people.

We're at our 15th, 15th Final Fantasy. Our 11th Dragon Quest, our 5th Persona, a remake of the 7th Final Fantasy, Gravity Rush 2, with Gravity Daze as the first, From's next iteration of the Souls formula, the third Kingdom Heartrs, the second Ni No Kuni, the second Nier, Dissidia FINAL FANTASY World of FINAL FANTASY, and Bloodborne, one of the iterations of the Souls games.
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>>336288736
I guess it was technically the best, but it had practically nothing in terms of new ideas. I don't think I ever felt quite so bored during a Mario game before.
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>>336290125
It could have been a Wario and Waluigi game.
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>>336291258

Well, it did have those challenges, like cashless castle crawl, or everyone's favorite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHDlJTIYaD0

I want more of these
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>>336288736
>>336289926
That's the thing, it easily could have been on the Wii as NSMB Wii2 just like Mario Galaxy 2 was, but for a console launch title you expect a bit more.

Even something like online co-op (which I don't think Nintendo's ever done with a platformer yet) would have been cool
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>>336240643
Look at his face, the guy is so disgusted with his job. All he's thinking is "Why are we doing this to the japanese youth?" I bet he's only two meetings away from commiting sudoku.
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>>336240885

first reply is best reply, as usual.
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>>336291508
That was years ago when he was in charge of NoA. He wasn't worrying about the Japanese kids. Fucking retard.
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>>336291485
Pretty much, when people think of big time console Mario games, they think Mario 64 and Galaxy. Instead Wii U got a sequel to a Wii game that added hardly anything, and a sequel to a 3DS that, while fun, is hardly groundbreaking or impressive, and came a couple years too late.
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>>336291704
>has 0 reading comprehension
>calls other retards
Kill yourself dumbshit.
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>>336292059
>look at his face
The only a face in that image is the one when he was in charge of NoA. I can comprehend sentences just fine, so your meme retort won't work here. Maybe you should brush up on your writing skills.
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>>336276864
>>336265447
Very subtle samefag
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