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Why is there not more sexualisation of men in video games?
I know the Japanese have Otome but that's mainly VNs about skinny femboys and twinks. How come you don't see action games similar to Senran Kagura but with a focus on muscly half-naked men doing fanservice stuff like rugby in the rain in between fighting or shooting or something?
Sure, the fighting genre's got some muscular men but there's no sexualisation, the sexual nature isn't emphasised like it is for women. Why can't we have a Captain Falcon buttslap similar to R. Mika or have Zangief tweak his nipples when he taunts?
I guess you can talk about husbandos as well but I'd rather see discussion of fanservice featuring males in video games.
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>>336223249
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1gBLfJgD0RS
Sorry for quiet voice
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>>336223249
because mostly guys play video games duh
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1. While men's arousal mainly comes from visual cues, this is not the thing for women. Half-naked men simply don't appeal to women as much as half-named women appeal to men.
2. Women don't play video games
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Because a round and jiggly ass isn't a manly masculine feature, so a buttslap means shit.
We do get chest pumping every time, wide chests are a masculine feature.
We get topless men with well defined muscles, wide jaws and deep voices.

Zangief has all this plus chest hair.
It's a walking sex machine.

If girls prefer sensitive guys we have every JRPG protagonist ever.
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>>336223249
Because there's less homosexuals and more straight people in the world, therefore the majority of the audience for video games is straight males, not females. So fuck off to your niche games that cater to your gay shit.
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Because that's fucking gay you degenerate.
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>>336223249

> sexualisation of men
> failling for that meme

Men are already sexualized they are the hero of their game, that's all the fuck women care.

Now if you wanted a fucboi's game go and buy a fucboi's game
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>>336224131
>>336224210
>Sexualised men is a sign of homosexuality in anyone.
If finding men sexy is gay, does that make japenese girls reading Yaoi and playing Otome games lesbians?
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>>336223249
Because women already have capeshit superheroes to get excited. Meanwhile, 99% of them don't even know Dante.
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Because women don't buy games in numbers to support it, especially for a female equivalent game like DOA beach volleyball. They also aren't quite as visual as dudes, most of the female schlick fodder seems to be of the literary variety.
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>>336223249
>what is Witcher
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>>336223986
>zangief
>huge Russian man
>wears tiny undergarment
>smoother than a ken doll.

We get zero compared to being able to see nipples through clothing and "hot" clothing instead of practical stuff.

And saying us girls want sensetive guys like "every jrpg protagonist" is only half the battle. Sure we prefer sensitive guys over gruff military man #3, but we also want them to be as sexy as possible.

Since when do we have to settle with just one?

You wanna see fair sexualization in video games? check out my picture. Its the most sexually charged male character splash released by riot and they attached it to the most intentionally ugly character in the game!!!!
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>>336224667
Make it a bit less obvious next time.

1/10
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>>336223964
>Half-naked men simply don't appeal to women as much as half-named women appeal to men.
Really?
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>>336224871
What do you think women buy those books for? To look at the cover and masturbate to it?
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>336224667
>>smoother than a ken doll.
WHERE ARE THE FUCKING BULGES YOU FUCKING NIP CUNTS.
WHY DO WE GET MOST GAMES WITH A FRAMERATE OF 60 CAMELTOES A SECOND BUT WE'RE LUCKY TO GET ONE FUCKING BULGE WITH ANY SORT OF MOVEMENT!
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>>336224719
Look at zangief cosplay! You can practically see his entire shaft.

Its absurd that video game females are inhuman because they have completely over sized anatomy but in contrast video game males have literally missing parts of their body.

Imagine if zangief was pumped up in that region in the same way cammies ass is. Imagine if the devs added ball physics so that his pouch bounced realistically when he jumped. Imagine what life is like outside of your own skull. It might do you some good.
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>>336224871
These covers work only as a visual to match with the story contents. It's the same reason why they'd rather read this story than a porno mag of Fabio.
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>>336223249
Because women don't play video games and most men are straight
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>>336225025
Who do you think those covers are meant to appeal to?
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>>336225112
So the men in the books are still sexualized as they appear on the cover?
Does being in text somehow make it different?
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>>336225256
There is a difference between

>half-naked men don't appeal to women as much as half-naked women appeal to men
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>women don't find half-naked men appealing in the slightest

and see >>336225112


>>336225310
>Does being in text somehow make it different?
Obviously. Try taking a look at what OP is asking.
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>>336225094
>Imagine if the devs added ball physics so that his pouch bounced realistically when he jumped.
Balls don't work that way you moron
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A lot of women actually like looking at sexy ladies just as much as guys but the reverse is less true
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>>336225414
Neither do breasts you mormon.
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>>336225414
Tits don't work the way they do in video games either anon
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>>336225414
I just checked.
There's a noticable bit of a bounce within the sack.
Depending on the heat, the humidity and the level of physical exertion of the person moving, there's some definite swing that could be implemented.
Even if not from jumping then definitely from running or swinging back and forth.
Ball physics should be implemented but only in loose clothing. Same amount of natural swing can be observed as in your average pair of breasts.
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>>336225559
Not to sound like I'm making excuses but that's probably a society thing. It's no problem for a woman to say another woman has great tits but if a man says another man has a nice butt people would think he's gay and ridicule him.
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>>336223249
Because the type of sexualization you're demanding appeals to mostly gays and mentally abstract fujos.

Most women aren't aroused by homoeroticism. Most women are aroused by masculine alpha male traits, or "the prince in shining armor." Of which, plenty of male characters fit the bill.

See Link, Cloud, every FF protag, every FE protag, Vega, etc...

This is because women more respond to behavioural cues more strongly than they do visual ones, unlike men, who become more easily aroused by tantalizing images, a women is more likely to get aroused by a slow build up, to two characters hooking up at the end + the drama that encompasses it. That said, there are plenty of sexy shirtless men for girls to shlick to. Could there be more? Sure, I wouldn't mind having more gratuitous shots of Cloud or Link if it'll get you to finally shut up about bouncing breasts and but shots.

Ofc, you won't. Because you're a woman. A complaining is the one thing you do best.
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>>336225721
>Imagining anon doing pic related in lose fitting clothing
>for science
>balls bouncing gracefully

I dont know whether this is lol worthy or hot.
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>>336225094
Why do people always bring up dicks as if they were equivalent to tits?
I don't see any video games featuring girls with huge puffy vaginas flapping around everywhere when they walk.
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>>336225864
So your telling me the 100k porn tumblrs and the 100k Yaoi pairing fanart tumblrs dont exist for the same reason? Because I know for a fact they do.

Sure we dont want the same level of sleazy guys seem to appreciate, but cute male on male "behavioral cues" are much more attractive when both of the men involved are hot as fuck.

Your not going to lose our attention if you up the male character sex appeal.
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>>336226139
>I don't see any video games featuring girls with huge puffy vaginas flapping around everywhere when they walk.
You can also spot someone who doesn't own a Vita.
Those Japs love their big puffy vulvas.
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>>336226297
>You can also spot someone who doesn't own a Vita.
Literally everyone you have ever seen in your life.
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>>336226297
>posting a VN
That's text heavy, obviously it's for girls since they get off on that.
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>>336225793
I doubt that. An explanation like that would mean that many men are in the closet about it, which is not the case according to several studies that measure physiological sexual responses and shit, or then it'd mean that society is able to repress the sexual responses completely (which sounds fairly unlikely). Considering the phenomenon is cross-cultural, I doubt society is behind it, although the effect can be amplified by society.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/female-sexuality-straight-women-turned-attractive-women-are-either-bisexual-or-gay-360486

As for why it is the case, there are some hypotheses based on evolutionary psychology.

http://www.livescience.com/37834-women-sexuality-and-alloparenting.html
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>>336226139
>I have never seen anything that is in every Japanese game ever.

I'll be fair and say its less prevalent in american games, but it still exists.

And we bring it up because we expect a REALISTIC bulge being added to male characters would be less offensive than UNREALISTIC breasts on females. And would provide almost as much enjoyment.
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>>336226297
Kek

>>336226387
>VN
Not a VN, a DRPG.
A big focus on first-person dungeon crawling, party skills, learning layouts and grinding.
Saying that's for girls because its got text and CGs is like saying Sengoku Rance is for girls because it's got text and CGs.
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>>336225591
>>336225615
Tits wobble around a lot more. I've seen some chicks and the cleaveage was vibrating like jelly with every step they took. Not that I'm defending those ridiculous jiggle physics, they need to turn that shit down.

>>336225721
There is movement in the balls but underwear is usually enough to keep that shit in place, atleast my junk doesn't fly around when I'm running
Balls physics would be funny though
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>>336225864
I don't have a problem with sexualisation of women In video games. I'm happy for these people who are getting fanservice that appeals to them.
I just wish the men were as sexualised as the women were because clearly me and most women do give a fuck about visual fanservice in video games.
Otherwise /y/ or /cm/ would be fucking text boards.
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>>336227229
Well they sure as hell aren't video game boards.
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>>336227229
How popular do you think /y/ and /cm/ are?
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>>336225984
And I don't know whether you're a horny slut or a horny gay slut but keep your opinions about my man's testicles in your fucking pocket.
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>>336227229
If you want it, make it yourself. If other people want it then it will be a success.

Shit like Senran Kagura has a strong fan following and exists because people support it.
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>>336223249

Video game characters are already typically paragons of masculinity. They're heroes, they get shit done by themselves. It doesn't need to be shoved in your face obnoxiously.
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>no sexualisation?
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>>336227650
I wanna fug that Hanny.
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>>336227697
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>>>/vr/3182124
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>>336223249
i don't no you tell me
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>>336227973
No one finds that sexy. . .

And Urien's body is more typical of homosexual men in Japan fyi. If you wanted to post some male-cheesecake, you'd be better off looking at King of Fighters.
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>>336227416
But they sure as love sexualising male video game characters.

>>>/y/2193245
>>>/y/2165089
>>>/y/2205790
>>>/y/2193950
>>>/y/2229471
>>>/y/2246318
>>>/y/2256743
>>>/cm/3006948
>>>/cm/3006180
>>>/cm/2990882
>>>/cm/3021968

And that's not even all of it.
There is a proven love for visual fanservice and porn. Anyone who tries to push the "women are more emotional in their sexual needs" meme are misinformed men or women who are ashamed to admit they like a good hard fuck by a good looking man.
Or delusional feminists who want to perpuate bullshit gender stereotypes about women being some sort of perfect beings who shit rainbows and orgasm from reading philosophy about carpet munching.
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>>336228248
>try to make a point that most women want sexualized men in video games
>post threads that were made in 2015 and are still alive
Sure seems popular.
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>>336228131
just like no one finds this sexy

and if i wanted some male-cheesecake id post dante
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>>336228248
>girls liking dudes fucking dudes
>accurate representations of normal women
>girls liking cute male character is all about looks
Visual fanservice on its own can be popular but it requires an attachment to the concept or series or characters there in personally. BL is specifically popular due to which relationships are presented, not just hot guy + hot guy.
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>>336225864
I meant to say 7nm not 22nm.
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>>336226267
>>336227229
You do realize most women aren't into Yaoi and homolust, right. Most are in fact turned off by it.

If tumblr were the accurate representation of most modern women, the 90% of women would be radical feminists as opposed to the 1/5 who choose to identify as feminists.
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>>336227508
This.

Senran Kagura and DoA were made by pervy Japanese guys who wanted to see tits, and were supported by people who shared in that vision.

Rather than demand devs make games that cater to your unique tasted by denouncing nale-equivalent works, and bringing up tons of "evidence" there's a demand for it, simply make your own games like the SK guys did, and if people are interested, let them follow it.

I would not at all be opposed to female devs making their own games that cater to their interests, rather than bully devs into making things for them.

If you're not seeing enough naked men in your vidya, then don't blame devs, blame the lack of female initiative in the west. And I say west, cause Japanese girls are unabashedly shameless in making niche things for their own enjoyment.
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>>336229816
>mfw I found out Neptunia games are made by ladies
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No sexual males in gaming? Nigga Wat are you doing
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>>336229970
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>>336223964
>While men's arousal mainly comes from visual cues, this is not the thing for women. Half-naked men simply don't appeal to women as much as half-named women appeal to men.
Just plain wrong
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We need to see more beefy men in video games

It's silly when a game features a really big man but his ass is non-existant and so is the bulge, and in the same game you have a woman that has more polygons in her ass then the rest of the game combined
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>>336223249
Because that shit is gay and gays in general are already a minority, even more in game development.
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>>336229970
>>336230369

Adorable.
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>>336225094
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roINV41RoIk
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>>336225367
how do you know all women only prefer written sexual content? Where are getting this?
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>>336227508

This is literally it. This is what I don't understand. We are at a place in technology where everyone can LITERALLY have whatever they want. They can make, create, design anything they want. But instead, it's bickering over ''inclusion'' or ''exclusion'' or whatever.

Like >>336227508 said, ''If you build it, they will come."

I suspect the people bitching about this kind of thing nowadays know that the market isn't there, or it isn't about ''inclusion.'' it's about control.
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>>336230740
>all women
>only
When did I claim that?
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>>336231046
People need to start saying "We should make this." instead of "You shouldn't make that."
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>>336230740
Not him, but it's basically the crux of pick up.

>men respond to visual cues
>women respond to behavioural cues

Try flashing your dick to a bunch of girls and see how well that goes. Meanwhile, if a girl does the same, guys get aroused.

Women care a lot more about the HOW than the WHAT. If a guy who's ripped goes up to them and flexes, chances are they'll call him an insecure douche and laugh behind his back. But if a guy who's ripped is in a situation where he has to take his shirt of, and is casually doing his thing while his muscles are showing, women will mire from afar. Because it displays security, and confidence, eg, alpha male traits.

If a guy gets in a situation where his shirt gets torn and his muscles show, girls get wet, if a guy takes his shirt off in public to try and get attention from girls, that pussy will be drier than the Sahara. And again, it's the how, because it's behavioural, you can show off if it's tongue-in-cheek and brimming with confidence, but if it comes as tryhard or insecure, you're done.

We men don't think like this.

So again, it's behavioural traits. You're more likely to attract women by BEING a man, and behaving like one. Showing masculine traits such as drive, confidence, security, stability, courage, etc... than by being pretty. The opposite is true for us, where most feminie traits are easily conveyed visually.
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This thread's fucking stupid.
Only faggots want super ripped niggers flopping their balls in each other's faces in video games.
Most normal people (women included) don't.
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>>336231728
Then why aren't more games like this since you're clearly a huge faggot?
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>>336232117
>homofuck faggot wants more fag shit in video games
>calls other people faggots

You're a special kind of fucking retard, aren't you queer?
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>>336232175
Why did you come into this thread if you aren't gay?
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>>336232247
To point out that you're an autistic fucking loser.
>I'm totally a chick you guize :3
>proceeds to type and argue like a goobergator piece of shit

Fucking pathetic dude.
There's nothing I hate more than people who have to lie on a fucking anonymous imageboard because their insecurity goes down to the base of their soul.
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>>336232362
Fascinating. Tell me more.
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>>336223249
Because:
A: there aren't enough people who find sexualized male characters appealing in positions where they can make that happen in the same numbers as people who find sexy girl characters appealing

B: Similarly to how some women bitch and moan about sexualized female designs being degrading some men will bitch and moan about sexualied male designs being gay and in a market dominated by young straight men their bitching tends to take precedent over everyone else's so things are done to placate them, then devs can address other segments without triggering the first.

The thought of playing a dude who makes sex moans while fighting and angling his crotch for maximum camera view is apparently too triggering for some and that some is a huge portion of people who buy and make video games
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>>336223249
No one would buy that,
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>>336232519
Except men have never complained about men being sexualized. See Ryu SFV, fundonshis in XCX, etc...
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>>336233996
Women never complain about women being sexualized either. The only people who care are omega males who are trying to sniff a vagina.
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>>336223249
>>336224667
>>>smoother than a ken doll.
>WHERE ARE THE FUCKING BULGES YOU FUCKING NIP CUNTS.
>WHY DO WE GET MOST GAMES WITH A FRAMERATE OF 60 CAMELTOES A SECOND BUT WE'RE LUCKY TO GET ONE FUCKING BULGE WITH ANY SORT OF MOVEMENT!
New quote for 2016.
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>>336224871
>Pull My Finger
kek
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>>336234197
That and femimists.
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>>336230605
Source/game/mod?
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>>336230605
I think it's funny in third person games when you can zoom the camera in and out and the camera locks at a certain level so you can't even see their butt if it's not completely obscured by jackets/capes/loincloths
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We need more and better homogames desu. Not the shitty tumblr kind.
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>>336224871

DELETE THIS!
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>>336225721
>I just checked.
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