>almost everything past abyss watchers is dull save a few bosses
>this is the last souls game for years or ever
>>336111406
>everything past Ornstien and Smough is unplayably boring
>Everything in Dark Souls 2 is boring
Is a common theme
>>336111485
Nice opinion, anon. Did you make it yourself?
that spider-cat thing was interesting, cripple bros,
Didn't From already say that 3 was going to be the last one before it was released?
>>336111858
he said he would let another director make one like 5 years from now if they had a fresh idea
>>336111858
They're just going to "reboot" it, like they did with DeS -> DaS. Expect Shadow Souls in two years
>>336111406
>almost everything past abyss watchers is dull save a few bosses
Everything before the abyss watchers too.
>>336111485
>not liking duke's archives
>not liking nito's skeleton rape dungeon
>not liking oolacile
izalith is terrible but the second half really isn't that bad.
The next Soulslike(?) will likely drop the Souls part from the name entirely and be something completely new like Bloodborne. The gameplay will continue to evolve. No one gives a fuck about setting and lore in these games. The Souls part in Dark Souls was simply added for brand recognition after Demon's Souls while transitioning from a first party exclusive to multiplatform.
>>336111858
The last DARK SOULS game, not souls game
from now on it's a new IP like the transition from demon to dark souls or bloodborne instead of dark souls 4
>>336112178
Catacombs was a fucking slog
>maze-like area with respawning enemies and awful platforming (remember getting to Vamos?)
If you didn't hate it that's because you're gay
>>336112004
The problem with fresh ideas is that they generally mean change and soulsfags don't like change.
>>336112278
i'm sorry you had a bad time in the......
.....bone zone.
>>336112224
Miyazaki said that it wouldn't feel right to keep making fantasy ARPGs, and that the next game FROM makes will be something different than what they've made in the past
>>336112326
gayyyyyyyyyyyyyy
>>336112329
well they've done fantasy, sci-fi and horror ARPGs, is the next one going to be a historical, urban, or western ARPG?
>>336111406
>dull save a few bosses
>>336112534
really nigga
>>336112004
how fresh can you get? Pyramids, japan, vikings, romans/ greek (gow hue)
ABSOLUTELY TERRIFYING TIER
Irithyll Dungeon
Road of Sacrifices (Probably should have been split into two zones)
BE WARY OF GORGEOUS VIEW AHEAD TIER
Irithyll of the Boreal Valley
Grand Archives
Untended Graves
Archdragon Peak
Catacombs of Carthus
OKAY TIER
Road of Sacrifices
High Wall of Lothric
Undead Settlement
Cathedral of the Deep
THAT'S IT? TIER
Profaned Capital
Anor Londo
Castle Lothric
Consumed King's Garden
Smouldering Lake
Kiln of the First Flame
How come only like 3 of the bosses have a cinematic intro? It's really anti-climatic fighting other bosses because they're just 'there'.
>>336111406
We still have 3 DLCs to receive. And From makes BIG DLCs.
>>336113064
Never really bothered me except for Aldrich.
Seems strange one of the lords of cinder doesn't get a cinematic intro.
>>336113064
Few of the cinematics matter. I don't need a cinematic if it's just going to be a Pinwheel type
>He's standing, looking away
>He turns around
>He suddenly attacks!
Which is by the way more than half of From boss cutscenes
>>336113097
yes i keep forgetting that. still a long wait though.
>>336112959
Irithyll Dungeon was just a shittier Tower of Latria.
Just vote which is your favorite
http://www.strawpoll.me/10097196
>>336113180
opinions
>>336112959
>Anor Londo
>Not GORGEOUS VIEW tier
>>336113238
Yours are bad.
>>336113142
>mfw waiting for a goty edition including all DLCs on steam
>>336113274
It was 2 rooms connected by a stairwell
Didn't even have a gimmick like Untended Graves
>>336113296
Man if mine are bad, how can we describe your opinions given that they're even worse?
>>336113097
I thought it was only 2 DLCs?
>>336113180
>HEY EVERYONE I PLAYED DEMON SOULS
>>336113297
I wish i waited, playing through the pirated copy just feels so lifeless and boring.
What's better for parrys, scimitars or rapiers?
>>336113396
Yes I have. Obviously you haven't.
>>336113449
the regular Rapier is slightly better than Curved Swords. They both parry on the same frame but Rapier recovers faster.
>>336113389
I can't speak for the level design, but taking the elevator to the cold and barren Anor Londo left more impression on me than any other view in the game.
>>336113516
Not first hand - no, but I've completed it through various let's plays and wiki articles and the tower of latria doesn't hold a candle to irithyll dungeon.
>>336113427
Waiting always pays off with souls games when it comes to PC : GFWL was removed from the prepare to die edition of DaS1 and SotFS fixed most of DaS2 while having huge amounts of content.
I just hope the goty edition of DaS3 will come for christmas.
>>336113689
Is Ricard's Rapier the same?
Rolling Exile greatsword right hand and something like a rapier in the left hand for parries and thrust counters. Estoc is shit in off hand
>>336112278
Catacombs was cool as fuck. The best part is that you can skip almost the entire area straight to the boss with couple jumps. There's also a lot of hidden shit in there.
>>336113745
>but I've completed it through various let's plays and wiki articles
I don't know if this is bait anymore. This is how low this place has fallen.
>>336113136
That was probably done to make the reveal more shocking. It WAS a pretty amazing looking boss arena too.
>walk in
>ground covered in ooze
>curtains billowing
>blue underlighting
>holy shit is that gwyndolin
>oh god my ass
Easily the most memorable boss.
>>336113180
This
Does not even come close to the dread i felt when going through 3-1.
>>336113396
Irithyll dungeon was way too short and there wasn't really anything special about the place.
>>336113745
How do you figure? Not even by virtue of coming first, but Latria has way more atmosphere (mind flayer bells through the level), darkness obscuring the nasty pitfalls, and it goes on for more than 2 seconds.
>>336111406
This game never needed these two cashgrab sequels it got anyway so who gives a fuck.
Besides, you morons should read the interview again. The interviewer asked if we would get a sequel or a spin off FROM THE SAME UNIVERSE, to which miyazaki replied with no and then right after said he was already working on a new IP.
And considering the sony insider from neogaf who has an imaculate record on leaking sony shit already said that sony has acquired two exclusives with FROM Software, one of them being an RPG and the other being a PSVR game (bet my ass it's going to be a king's field wannabe), I hope you've already bought that playstation 4.
>>336112329
No, he did not. He said he didn't want to keep popping up sequels and in the same interview you're refering to he said the next game he wanted to make in the same formula would have either a ninja or a futuristic theme.
>>336114137
Miyazaki's involvement in DaS3 is PR at best. It's such a giant pile of shit compared to Bloodborne. If he was involved at all, it's pretty obvious he blew his load on BB and didn't have time to recover for DaS3.
It wasn't the best way to end the series I admit, ending it at the highest note of the series aka Bloodborne would have been best
But , the game is very good ,on par with Demon's Souls in my opinion, so it's still a pretty good conclusion to the series
>>336113097
That was a mistranslation. It's two dlcs. One this year, the other one in the next.
>>336112534
The game fucking blows for PVE dude. stop sucking From dick and learn to critique a game.
>>336114137
We all know the real A team is Studio Japan from Sony.
Demon's Souls and Bloodborne were outstanding and felt really fresh. Dark Souls 1 rehashed a fuckload of things from Demon's and while it was still an outstanding game, the quality really did fall off a cliff post anal rodeo, and Dark Souls 2 and 3 were just lazy cashgrabs.
>>336114190
>I hope you've already bought that playstation 4.
>buying a console for what it will/might have instead of what it does have
Good goy.
>>336114190
wrong that its a sony exclusive considering this video https://youtu.be/BIi-zuwP9ms?t=46
The time shows theyre next being PS4, PSVR, XBONE, AND PC
Mesoamerican Souls when?
It's already like the Souls games in real life: Giant abandoned kingdoms we know almost nothing about.
>>336113232
>"model has a long arm"
>model simply isn't fat
ayypex kek
>>336114385
Don't worry. E3 is right in the corner.
>>336114409
m8. I said TWO.
>people still find this tired series fun and original
>>336114465
It's like my Call of Duty mate. I don't know how to fucking explain it. It is very addicting to me.
>>336114465
I'm utterly tired of dark souls, yes, but games like Bloodborne I will welcome any time.
>>336114461
>trusting E3
Again, good goy.
>>336113745
>Not first hand - no, but I've completed it through various let's plays and wiki articles
Can Ricard's Rapier parry in the off hand?
>>336114369
I legitimately had fun the whole game.
>just want to make a miracle/gwyn-wannabe build
>all three magics are still fucking shit
>lighting spear hits like a fucking package of toilet paper at 50 FAITH
>>336114582
Here we go lads, get your goldfaces ready because the memetic age is reigniting itself
>>336114369
>disliking things somehow inherently validates your opinion
There are so many of you fucks on here and you all get a free pass for some reason.
>>336111406
ThIS
BB>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DeS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SHIT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DaS>DaS2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DaS3
>>336114369
One thing that just I simply couldn't stop thinking about while playing this game is that it plays like a poorman's Bloodborne. They simply copypasted the hyper aggressive enemies from Bloodborne over except your character fights like dogshit compared to a proper hunter. Poise being off was the nail in the coffin because it made it feel nothing like a souls game.
It was pretty much It Was Better in Bloodborne: The Game - Extra Pointless Fanservicing, References, Reused Assets and Reddit Pandering Edition.
There's FUCKALL variation as well because 99% of the weapons are outclassed by other simple shit such as the estoc or the dark sword so much you're pretty much gimping yourself by not using them. Don't even get me started on how the only viable build is quality.
So much for the alleged "better variation" of the souls formula next to Bloodborne. This game is obviously unfinished and rushed the fuck out.
>>336114465
don't know man souls game are like a drugs to me
also souls game in the oriental land when ?
>>336115101
I think you're trying to troll but this is accurate.
>>336115331
Probably never, the series is heavily inspired by western culture.
>>336115331
Miyazaki said in an interview that the next game he wanted to make in this same formula was either going to be a ninja or a futuristic themed on.
In any case
>wanting generic japshit style
>not lusting for Cyber Souls instead
Nigga you fucked up. Just play Ni-Oh.
>>336115548
>
>>336115535
Joke's on you, I was only pretending
>>336115653
i'll take everything with the souls format
>>336111406
I've stopped playing at the catacombs and after reaching smoldering lake
These dungeons literally look like chalice dungeons
Might pick it up again later but I've already noticed that I've played two other characters to abyss watchers already, so it seems like you're right
>>336111406
dark souls combat meets asscreed parkour?
>>336113097
2 dlcs.
And I feel like they're going to be total ripoffs. Most people have already bought the season pass anyways, and the description talks about "exciting new weapons and armor!" or something, the emphasis on that feels kind of strange to me
I blame Namco for all this. Believe it or not, with the marketing Namco has been pushing for the series, they are trying to milk it for every cent and are putting pressure on Fromsoftware. All the games feel rushed in some regard.
In this game, the level design is great and PvE fine for the most part, but it's the little things and the fucking balancing. There is not much variety right now, but it will come with subsequent patches if DS2 is anything to go by.
Miyazaki really hates covenants for some reason, they made a step backwards this time as yet again, anything that's blue is shit (The only exception being Forest Hunters in DS1).
Overall, the game is the sequel Dark Souls 2 should have been and the only reason people now put it bellow Dark Souls 1 are nostalgia glasses.
Just go back and play Dark Souls 1, the enemies are fucking dumb, the bosses really aren't any harder there, we just got good over the years, and they used the same formula for fighting bosses again (roll into this attack, roll to the side of this attack, etc.). The bosses here were all good, even the fucking Deacons were interesting at least. Dark Souls 1 had Orsntein and Smough, 4 Kings and Gwyn if you didn't parry him, here you have the Princes, Anthony Sullivan, Champion Gundyr, Soul of Cinder and Aldrich. But this is a Souls game, once you learn the patterns, it just becomes trivial.
But they really fucked up NG+, that was a huge letdown.
>>336114382
Demon's Souls is hands down the worst Souls game. Studio Japan being the A Team is a retarded meme
>>336112959
>Catacombs not in That's It? tier
Literally one of the most boring zones.
>>336116981
what they do to ng+?
>>336114382
The "Demon's Souls was excellent meme" needs to die. All the bosses were fucking easy, the only exception being Flamelurker and the Maneaters, and even they weren't that difficult with how retardedly fast and unpunishable healing grass was.
The game was short as fuck, they removed one whole area due to time constraints and the game overall wasn't that hard, the AI was retarded.
There wasn't much content either. So fuck off with this meme.
>>336114369
>learn to critique a game
>makes no real criticisms
>posts a reaction image
lol
>>336117135
Nothing and that's why it sucks. It's easier than any other NG+ in other Souls games and it added literally nothing except +1 rings and renamed souls you find on the ground. But other than that, it's literally the same as NG, zero changes and the difficulty is lacking too.
>>336115275
TL;DRshut the fuck up
>>336114190
Their next game is for XBox and PC as well.
>>336115653
>>
god, your dumb
>>336117007
But Bloodborne is the best Souls type game.
>>336117007
>>336117179
>Shortly after DaS released most people claimed it was the better game
>Post DaS2 everyone claims DeS is better
Funny how Zelda cycle really applies to a shitton of games.
>>336116981
This is pretty true. When you directly compare 3 to 1 it definitly seems like a step in the right direction. The only thing that really sticks out is balance issues and the whole missing poise ordeal. 3 still has better areas and overall better bosses.
DaS came out when Souls was relatively new to a lot of people, so they more willingly overlooked the games flaws. Now that every moron who watched MatthewMatosis's video on DaS2 thinks that every Souls game after 1 is trash because it isn't 100% flawless on launch.
>>336117823
and it's still a rushed hackjob in the second half, so what?
Studio Japan's 1 for 1 on having a positive influence. That's an F grade.
>>336117179
Despite common belief, being hard isn't what made this series good. In fact, some of it's hardest bosses, like the four kings, are also it's most poorly designed.
Demon's had the best atmosphere, the best NPCs, the best armor and weapon designs, the best level design and boss design, the best soundtrack, etc.
>>336117850
>3 still has better areas and overall better bosses
Not really.
>>336115275
>game in a series makes a reference to a past game
>"WOW FUCK THIS FANSERVICE SHIT GAME"
What the fuck is with you people? Did you lose your mind when Megaman 9 starred Megaman?
>>336118047
>Demon's had the best atmosphere, the best NPCs, the best armor and weapon designs, the best level design and boss design, the best soundtrack, etc.
It was also the shortest and had the least content. And most of it's bosses were just gimmick bosses.
Agree with music though. As for NPCs, they were breddy gud.
>>336117257
they dont increase boss health at all? thats literally the only reason i wanted it because bosses died too easily
fuck
>>336118169
sure does.
>>336116198
Catacombs and Smouldering Lake are the only bad areas in the game
>>336118169
>what is lost izalith
>what is tomb of the giants
>what is crystal cave
>what is bed of chaos
>what are the 3 asylum demons
>what is pinwheel
>what is centipede demon
>what are 5 kings
>implying implying implying
>>336118236
They do increase boss health. It just ins't that much harder compared to NG as it was in other games, and NG+ literally adds nothing new.
>>336118220
>It was also the shortest and had the least content.
And Dark Souls 2 was the longest with the most content. And half the areas in Dark Souls 1 were either copypasta from Demon's or just plain shit.
>>336112212
I heard they had a different name at first (dark ring or something) so I dont think they added souls for recognition
>>336118314
>Catacombs
>Bad
>Not loving skeleton boulders and the million skelly march
Wolnir was probably the easiest boss in the game, but it was also the coolest by far
The lake was shit, though
>>336118519
>And half the areas in Dark Souls 1 were either copypasta from Demon's
>>336118169
>Iron Golem, 4 Kings, Capra and Taurus, Seath, Pinwheel, Moonlight Butterfly, Gaping Dragon, Ceaseless Discharge, Centipede Demon
>and fucking Bed of Chaos
All of these bosses vary from boring to just bad. Bed of Chaos was straight frustrating too, and had a fairly lengthy run to the boss.
Plus, Crystal Caves, Blight Town, Demon Ruins, that fucking hollow tree and Ash Lake are all like half finished and just not good.
>>336112212
>>336118582
Yeah, Dark Souls was supposed to be called Dark Ring, but they dropped it because it was slang for anus in Great Britbong. So they just went with Souls.
>>336118585
lake had a fucking badass worm creature that made me say HOLY SHIT YEAH BABY!!!
then it was dead like 2 minutes later and it wasnt exciting at all
>>336118476
Yeah, it's pretty well acceted that DS1 takes a dive after Anor Londo.
But
first half of DS >>>>> DS3 >> second half of DS
>>336118585
>Wolnir was the easiest boss
>implying Vort wasn't hands down the easiest boss in any souls game
>>336113297
This comic is dumb
who asks someone why they are eating ice cream? It's ice cream, who the fuck doesn't want to eat it?
>>336118769
>first half of DS >>>>> DS3 >> second half of DS
stop
Can't wait for DS4 to come out so people realize that DS3 was the best in the series
>>336118869
dualshock 3 was indeed better than dualshock 4
>>336118585
>beat Wolnir first attempt solo
>get summoned for him
>die to his fog breath more often than not, or end up getting really bad cycles and not being able to hit his bracelets.
I had me and the other summon just sitting down waiting for a chance to hit his fucking bracelets. I guess his fight is more RNG than anything really, when I first fought him I killed him way before I hit the back wall, saw his sword summon, or saw him summon skeletons.
>>336118869
People have already started calling 2 the best in the series since 3 came out.
>>336118975
>listening to Dark Souls 2 apologists on /v/
tippity top kek
>>336118650
Capra was great.
Besides, same could be said of every DS3 boss besides Nameless King, Soul of Cinder, and the Pontiff.
>>336118965
>Die to his fog breath
Holy shit, that's possible? It's so fucking easy to just step back a bit out of its range and not take a single tick of damage I didn't even know that could be lethal
>>336118961
dualshock 3 was pretty shit actually
>>336116981
Did DaS II add anything in NG+? I never got around to playing a NG+
>>336119249
Yes
Actually quite a bit
I rather dislike DS2, but one of its better points is that it actually changes stuff around and adds unique stuff to the NG+ cycles, unlike any of the other games in the franchise
>>336119083
There ain't a single DaS3 boss as bad as the Bed of Chaos, Pinwheel, or the 4 Kings. I guess we can toss the bridge Drake in there too if we want to count that.
I also only listed Capra because his move set is fairly limited and he's pretty much just a common enemy they turned into an early game boss. I enjoyed the fight but it was far from anything special.
>>336119112
It was during an online summon, I took insane damage mid swing and I couldn't get out of the fog in time.
>>336112959
>BE WARY OF GORGEOUS VIEW AHEAD TIER
>Untended Graves
>Catacombs of Carthus
>>336119112
You don't even need to step out of it, the damage is that slow that i could just stand there in the fog hitting his arms and neck an estus when my health got low. My only problem with him was that he kept lifting his fucking arms and wouldn't put them back down.
>>336119591
You actually took fucking damage?
You don't seem to understand the confusion here, if you've gotten hit by it in the first place then there's a problem. It really doesn't have much of a range, and it's piss-easy to walk away while he's vomiting
Unless you were right under his face and out of stamina, you have zero excuse to get hit with that
>>336119591
>Capra Demon
Please, that boss was poorly designed
>let's put a boss in the smallest room possible
>and also add two of the most annoying enemies in there that will stunlock you to shit
Truly a Dark Souls 2 tier boss
>>336119348
How much?
I only know of "suspicious shadows" and some pyromancers during the drowned sinner fight or whatever she was called
>>336112959
>>336119603
I feel like my biggest issue with 3 is that every area lacks fucking color. I understand that the world is supposed to be dying but making everything a a smeared grey color just looks so gross.
>>336111406
>they add the fucking retarded Messengers = Shrine Handmaid and Badges = Ashes system from Bloodborne
>they didn't add the only good thing from Bloodborne the Chalice Dungeon
FROM
>>336119837
Run to the stairs, remove the dogs, continue to bait Capra into fall stabs. It's not an amazing fight but it's not bad. It's not even the first multi enemy boss fight.
>>336117179
Either you "just don't get it" or I'm just fortunate to have played through Demons Souls JUST before Dark Souls was announced and it was still kind of a niche title. Demons Souls was amazing back then. Dark Souls kinda replicated that feeling, but it all went downhill from DaSII. The magic is just gone.
>>336118823
Eating too much is bad for your health
>>336119591
Pinwheel's main problem is that he's meant for low-level characters, and they put him in a zone where nobody would go down there at the level he's meant to be dealt with at.
I was obsessed with the rumored 'lich form' that everyone said was totally a 100% real thing, and dove into the catacombs as soon as I could on release. There was a shitton of misinformation about the game at first, and I wanted to find the gravelord covenant as soon as possible. Back then, skeletons didn't drop souls at all, so I didn't level up at all getting to Pinwheel. Dude was actually a tough fight, especially when he has a semi-scripted attack about 2/3rds of the way through the fight. He's supposed to split into a ton of clones in a circle around you and fire all at once, but most people don't see that because they kill him so fast
>>336112178
>liking Duke's Archives
>>336118314
I'm glad to hear that because its where I've stopped, and I've gotten the impression that the rest of the game will be like that so I've kind of lost my drive to continue.
>>336120105
nostalgia glasses everyone
>>336120212
autism everyone
>>336113232
Why do people pretend to like demon souls?
>>336120173
dude the next area is literally one of the best in the game
>>336120104
why does everyone from the souls community start giving me tips on how to beat a boss when I say he is badly designed and shit? The fight is shit from a design perspective. He gave me a lot of trouble in NG+ SL1.
>>336120318
Hipsters, the whole "I liked it before it was cool" bullshit.
>>336119890
I'd have to double check everything
But bosses drop different souls, they have unique enemy placements, special red phantoms, and the biggest thing I could think of is that Duke's Dear Freja actually attacks you prior to the boss fight. After the camp, down the path where the two boulders drop, there's that ledge just before the spider door that leads into the quarry proper. In NG+ and beyond, Freja climbs out of the chasm and you can fight her there. She retreats before you can get too far in the fight, but she'll have reduced health when you get to the actual boss room
>>336119890
Right at the start of 2 they add the Falconer enemies, which are unique to NG+. Beyond enemies I know they change the name of boss souls to the lord souls from the first game.
>>336119751
It was online bruh. I was hitting his bracelet and then I was coated in fog. When the fog cleared he was all the way across the stage from my dead body somehow.
The online is insanely bugged in 3. I had a Dancer fight were she just glided across the floor doing no animations, managed to hack away most of her health during the time frame for free.
>>336119974
Wasn't that DLC? Be patient, nigga
>>336116981
I disagree on pretty much everything you said, beside the pressude from Namco, which is most likely true.
Pretty much everything, especially level design, rewards for exploring and pve overall are a huge step back from DS1.
>>336119890
New enemies in a lot of areas(normal and red phantoms), mixed up mimic locations, extra items from boss kills, new items for some merchants, and Freja appears before the Brightstone church for some free damage before fucking off to the stage.
>>336120675
No. Chalice was in BB from the start.
>>336116981
>namcos fault
NO its mainly the pc gaming community desu
Constantly pushing this "LE SO HARDCORE PRAISE LE SUN" bullshit for years
It clearly influenced DS3, the whole game is just "HEY REDDIT REMEMBER ANOR LONDO XD"
Rather than make a new and interesting world they just rehashed whats popular in the shitty community
So glad BB was an exclusive as that hasnt succumb to the cancer thats infected DS
Pic related, your average meme spouting pc gamer
>>336117218
Spoken like a true fromdrone
>>336120704
>level design was a huge stepback
I found it to be on par and sometimes even better, I enjoyed all the shortcuts throughout the levels. Dark Souls 3 had more of it, Dark Souls 1 had only good level design in the first half.
>rewards for exploring
You'd be surprised how much shit you miss if you don't explore in 3
>pve overall
The enemies weren't retarded and I find the enemy design pretty cool and sinister, not to mention it was much more challenging
>>336120923
dont shit up the thread plz
>>336120173
Smouldering Lake is completely optional and tiny.
>>336120135
That's just poor planning then. I know it's easily possible to go there right at the start of the game but most players wouldn't reach him. The area before him his way, way harder than he is.
>>336120375
It sounded like you were having trouble with him. He's not that poorly designed, he's just simplistic and fairly boring. It's a boss fight that consists of 3 common enemies.
>>336111406
How can you be so wrong?
Pontiff is awesome, Nameless King is awesome, Lothric Princes are awesome, even final boss is decent.
Champion Gundyr is great too. Dancer is nice.
>>336120923
I don't know if you ever go outside of /v/, but pretty much all the casuals and praise the sun meme faggots play on a console.
Source: I've been a member of many facebook groups and saw the cancer you are talking about, and all were consoles
PC has nothing to do with it, Dark Souls was always more popular on a console.
>>336121006
It absolutely is poor planning
Poor guy gets shat on for being a supposedly terrible boss when it's hardly his fault. He's honestly one of my favorites
>Lothric Castle
>It's Boletaria Castle all over again
>>336121156
I liked Boletaria more than Lothric dunno Lothric feels so fucking bland.
>>336121038
I mean, even take the first bosses and compare them. How the fuck is Asylum Demon and Taurus Demon better than Iunex Gundyr and Vordt? Dark Souls 1 shitters need to go.
>>336121229
dunno where dark souls 1 comes in here but okay
>>336120923
Wasn't the total lack of consistency with DaS1's story a fairly major issue with DaS2 after release? At least 3 feels like it's part of the game world, 2 basically does this silly "entering an alternate world" beginning and then it claims that it's the same land, just that the entire city of the god has been razed to the ground and built on top of.
Crying that 3 mentions 1 is literally the definition of autism.
>>336112278
Catacombs is ma favorite area nigga. But i usually play it before blighttown, so it`s not after Anal Rodeo.
>>336121332
It obviously does, because the OP implies the previous games were better, and I doubt he is talking about Dark Souls 2.
>>336121430
i just reread it and it doesnt seem to imply that at all
>>336120941
>an hour and 9 minutes later
>still no proper critique of the game
>>336121407
I always, always played Catacombs before Sen's Fortress, sometimes before Blighttown, the only reason being 20 Estus Flasks.
3 questions someone can amswer please
Is the firelink shrine in untended graves the "real" world version and the one you often go to a dream?
What the fuck are those flying things around lothric castle?
And what the fuck is that infection thing about, you know what ludex has and some enemies?
>>336121156
>That point when you realize they literally copied the level layout from the area leading up to Penetrator
I just got invaded by one of those hackers where he gives you souls, am I fucked?
>>336121350
>it claims that it's the same land
Where the fuck does it say that?
The problem with the references is that many of them are pointless. What does the existence of Andre contribute to the game? How about the jolly confused onion? They don't add anything to the game or the universe as a whole, they're just there for the lowest form of fanservice.
>>336121641
lol @ image.gif
>>336121746
This
And like I said the meme spouting normies clearly influenced the decisions in this game
Anor londo was so fucking forced in ds3
>>336121697
The circlet should erase your character's softban. Next time, back your save up constantly.
>neo /v/ literally thinks this is the greatest game ever
https://youtu.be/Vf3Wj_d-aOE
>>336121641
Untended Graves is what it looks like if you tell the firekeeper you want a world without flames
It's the BAD END future
>>336121641
>Is the firelink shrine in untended graves the "real" world version and the one you often go to a dream?
who the fuck knows
>What the fuck are those flying things around lothric castle?
I have no idea, have been wondering that too
>And what the fuck is that infection thing about, you know what ludex has and some enemies?
It's called Man of Pus and I think it's somehow linked to dragons. The dragon worshippers in Lothric Castle have it and the dragons themselves too. Don't know about Iudex.
>>336121634
I ain't saying the game is perfect, but I am saying you're a fucking moron for telling others to learn how to critique a game when you yourself are just saying "PVE is shit" without going into any detail as to why.
>>336111406
Buy the DLC, goy.
>>336121838
i agree with anor londo, dont know why people felt nostalgia there
to me it was symbolism for the death of the series
>>336121641
It's lore bait, probably a universe where the Age of Fire ended.
They're Pilgrim Butterflies, presumably what happens when a Pilgrim successfully migrates. Some people have said they're like the nervous system of developing dragons, but it's too vague.
DLC bait. It's just an enemy that's infected by the abyss.
>>336121660
No, they didn't.
>>336121886
is that video supposed to reinforce your point?
>>336122029
Yes, they did.
>>336122026
Yeah, the black enemies that mutate and bust out of guys is supposed to be Humanity right?
>>336121886
>>336122069
God can you believe people are actually ENJOYING this game
Makes me sick to my stomach that people can enjoy things
>>336121838
>>336121998
You shitters need to go, Lordran was where everything originated from, the demons, the curse, the abyss, every single thing. It only makes sense for something reappear, because there is literally no reason to go anywhere else except for where it all started.
>>336122069
>>336122201
Let me guess, you think that's 10/10 gameplay.
This is the best area in the game.
Lot of hidden items, different paths, shortcuts, good enemy placement, full of amazing vistas.
>>336122201
>>336122223
fucking retards do you think that happens often or something? no fun allowed faggots
>>336121641
>Is the firelink shrine in untended graves the "real" world version and the one you often go to a dream?
I believe it's an old forgotten shrine from a previous linking
>What the fuck are those flying things around lothric castle?
They're called Pilgrim Butterflies, no one knows what they are but the currant theory is that they are transformed undead prilgrims, you know, all those dead dudes where you first meet Yoel(and by extention, Yoel himself).
>And what the fuck is that infection thing about, you know what ludex has and some enemies?
They're possessed, by what i don't know.
>>336122223
>Souls PVP
>ever anything worth the time
>>336122223
>it's another "I am going to bash everything about this game and pretend my taste is superior and that I play better games" episode
>>336122210
uuh ok
the area is still shit
>>336121846
Thank you
>>336112178
I've actually come to appreciate the post-Anor Londo areas once I played them a bit more. I used to just put the game down after O&S. They aren't as bad as a lot of people make them out to be but I hate how short they all are to a seasoned player.
>>336122421
>it's a "we're going to make 5000 threads a day but not discuss or even defend the awful gameplay or controls" epsiode
>>336122425
>being a contrarian
>on /v/
every time
>>336122241
I liked Ithryll more. Its more linear than Settlement, but it had some nice secrets too and I liked the enemies there.
>>336122601
Ok now I know you are just baiting for replies
Here's your (You)
>>336122346
I was being sarcastic you dumb fuck
>>336122605
nigger you started spouting some vaati shit when we were saying the area was just junk
ur a fag
>>336122241
>best area of DS3 is a shit version of hemwick from BB
Says a lot really
>>336122149
Prove it.
>>336122740
i just replied to whoever anon, i sincerely apologize that you got lumped in there
lets be friends
>>336122747
No, you were spouting "WAAAAH FAN SERVICE" when literally anything reappears. I mean, yeah, they didn't need to bring back the same NPCs, but geographically speaking, there is no point to be anywhere else than in Lordran, since it's where everything happed.
Stop your shitty Vaati meme
>>336122927
dont even know what youre talking about now but it has nothing to do with what i was saying
ill just shrug and stop talking to you
On my 4th play through 3rd character but got to ng+ 3 On one character, but some of the terrible design is showing. It's better than 2, but it is relatively short in comparison to both 1 and 2.
>>336122990
I assumed you were one of the guys I originally replied to
>>336123057
Examples?
>>336122403
The (infection) is the abyss. Since the lords failed to link the flame the abyss is creeping back out.
>>336121641
The infection is very clearly abyss, based on Dark Souls 1 and 2. Untended graves is the firelink shrine from the world where ludleth linked the fire. He mentions it. Those flying things are trees. Get your binoculars and look. It looks like they are what the tree things in undead settlement become.
>>336123261
For some reason i thought he was talking about the red eyes some enemies and Champion Gundyr have, no idea how i completely missed that he was talking about the abyss.
>>336122834
https://youtu.be/zfBhvbg9D4A?t=1481
https://youtu.be/s_S6n4EtutQ?t=211
>Road with a bunch of wooden barriers; low-level dregs that mostly ping you with crossbows
>Massive staircase leading up to the main castle and the boss
>Dreglings at the bottom with shields and spears
>Trio of red-eye knights waiting on the staircase itself just before the main gate
They even copied the fucking mobs you fight. Did you even play demon's souls?
>>336123167
Outside of pontiff, entire dragon aerie. Enemy placement is terrible, but doable. Literally a bonfire ever 100 meters or so. It's either mob of enemies or a few op ones, which most can be riposted or parried but I can see the complaints. Areas are tiny, but seem to be large your first playthrough. 7 hours on a new character and I'm already at lothric.the one thing I do like is how you can kill the dancer within the first 20 minutes. One of the best parts of the previous 2 were the ability, and if you were good enough to clear out most of the game before even fighting the first boss.
>>336122829
They look a lot alike, but Hemwich is hugely simpler
>>336120318
They don't need to pretend.
>>336113915
maybe because DeS was your first fucking game of the series? and even if not, you still must have played it before DaS3.
you're dumb
>>336120318
>>336120460
>I didn't enjoy demons souls
>everyone who liked it is pretending
the problem with faggots like you in general is that you are not able to think outside the box.
>>336119974
>actually praising the worst part of Bloodborne
Chalice Dungeons were all boring and monotonous. If the only ones were Great Ihyll and Isz then it might not have been so bad but as it stands you've got to get through 20 or so layers of dungeons that vary in difficulty from piss easy and boring to straight up bullshit like defiled hotdog and amy.
>>336124981
>>I didn't enjoy demons souls
>implying
The people that make those claims never actually play it themselves.
>>336122829
>Hemwick Charnel Lane
>good
>>336114369
>How dare you not hold a contrarian opinion like me on /v/, learn to hate video games
>>336119591
>There ain't a single DaS3 boss as bad as the Bed of Chaos, Pinwheel, or the 4 Kings
There also isn't a single one as good as Ornstein and Smough, Sif, Artorias, or Kalameet.
>>336125918
Well yeah thats what im saying
>>336126910
Should I have posted Costanza along with my post to show you that I think you're retarded for holding that opinion?
>>336126847
I'd argue that Pontiff and Abyss Walkers are as good as them. I haven't gotten beyond them though.In B4 quoting Abyss Watchers and saying hitstun. You can very easily stun Artorias out of his magic charge attack and basically get like just under a third of his health taken away, making that fight painfully easy.
>>336120945
>I enjoyed all the shortcuts throughout the levels
The shortcuts are completely pointless. Shortcuts in the first Dark Souls made sense because it wasn't as linear and you couldn't teleport tell the half way point. When you found a good shortcut, which were all over the place connecting firelink, new londo, undead parish, lower undeadburg, darkroot basin, etc, it mattered. The shortcuts in DS3 you'll find once and then never use it. For example, the first shortcut you get at the high wall that gives you an elevator down to Vordt is actually slower than just using the tower on the wall bonfire. Or the shortcut between the halfway forstress and the bonfire before the watchers which is equidistant form both bonfires. Or the shortcut elevator that connects the first two bonfires of archdragon peak. They're all pointless.
The first half of Dark Souls has undeniably better level design. And while the second half suffers for clearly being rushed, it still had more interesting obstacles and visual design.
>>336127765
DaS1 should have started with a teleport. I probably wasted around 30 hours just running around trying to get shit to a blacksmith to level up.
I know it's neat that the game is connected everywhere but it's crazy tedious to run around constantly.
